Yep, it is a cool number. But isn't that strange? That some combinations of characters and numbers are cooler than others?
And it is not because they have a specific mathematical meaning or any thing? Most people are blissfully unaware of that anyway. We all just seem to agree that M33 X-7 is cool. In an eighties kind of way? Like Mazda RX7, BMW M3 or the likes.
Jeeze I hope that's not illegal. This is a free(ish) country still isn't it? I've gone on road trips where I drove about 12 hours straight, by myself. To call that "extremely dangerous" is to make yourself sound like an old granny. No, but it makes you sound REALLY stupid. No one drives for twelve hours straight unless that person is totally ignorant of the risks of doing so. Also, it is a quite masochistic exercise. We ARE talking no stops or pauses WHATSOEVER. Not to eat, rest, nothing. Actually, it is illegal for truck drivers, for example. I think they have a 10 hour limit. Remember that they are professionals with a comfortable working environment and that they have experience of doing these things regularly. Also, they stop for short intervals. They have to keep itineraries.
Whether he actually killed someone or not is obviously completely irrelevant.
Since we know the outcome, we have more information about what went into it. Yeah, if you look at it solely as a mathematic problem with a known complexity. If you don't know anything, the amount of information you get from the first outcome i so unimportant that it doesn't matter, hence it's low relevance.
Now you've really revealed that you think the positive outcome of this event was pure coincidence Have I? Interesting, since i never did so. No, I don't think it was pure coincidence. He probably tried to avoid collisions to not have to go to jail for reckless endangerment or even murder(implied malice, the felony murder rule).
Free speech? Do you believe the crap you write? I am about as non-conservative as they get, moron. And I am an atheist to. I am not easily offended, I can assure you that, but when someone writes crap like this i tend to get pissed off.
This has nothing to do with naked tits or cursing or anything like that. It is about not glorifying fucking awful behavior. I don't tolerate that. And you shouldn't either.
You are actually making free speech harder. Your are using it as a means to try to suppress my views and to try and turn this into what you think it is: Kind of cool.
Well then I guess he failed spectacularly, since he encountered thousands of other vehicles and didn't even get into any fender-benders. Isn't it funny that I sort of knew that someone would make the comment you just did?
Whether he actually killed someone or not is obviously completely irrelevant.
He and his copilot drove for 31 hours straight, which means that they were at the wheel for more that 15 hours each. This is extremely dangerous(and probably illegal) even at normal speeds. One don't even know that one has fallen asleep, not to speak of the long reaction time that evolves, hallucinations and physical stress. He did this a high speed which is so stupid that I don't know where to begin to describe it.
And it is not like you only double your breaking distance(hence allowed reaction time) by doubling you speed. And then it's tunnel vision. And many other things.
And you probably know that. Still you make this comment.
Calm down and get some perspective for a minute there, Captain Moral Outrage. If I shoot a entire clip of bullets in your general direction and miss all of them, that's OK with you, right? I mean, from your perspective?
i) Because there weren't any negatively toned (or neutral) articles to submit? ii) So that Slashdot The Community can formulate and express an opinion about this psycho and said sickly article? i) I hope that's wasn't the reason... But it probably was. ii) OK, I give you that the community can handle the article.
But what I don't like the publicity Slashdot is giving him, in a completely biased article, that never in any serious way questions whether it really is to do what he is doing.
That's not journalism, it's propaganda, and it influences people, also the slashdot community, whether you like it or not.
Just look at the comments, most are actually buying in on this, thinking it is "kinda cool". Slashdot is a really powerful medium, and should be treated responsibly.
I just don't think it is responsible to glorify horrible crap like this. Respecting others right to live and breathe is serious stuff.
But he watches Battlestar Galactica!!!! Yes. That is an attenuating circumstance, you are right. But that only entitles him to drive a little bit faster than others.
Now, if he also was into Star Trek and Star Trek TNG, Doctor Who, Firefly and Babylon 5, he would probably have a fair chance of breaking the record. And that would be OK.
I don't know for sure, so I can't really say. I was rather into the logical consequence than the law when I talked about attempted murder.
But I'd say that it sure looks like implied malice to me:
"Implied malice is proven by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life or in a death that occurs during the commission of certain felonies (the felony murder rule)."
Don't apply your arbitrary moral standards to the rest of us. Being a "geek" has nothing to do with submitting to a particular moral philosophy. Ok.. I won't. Sorry 'bout that. I suppose I just thought that geeks in general weren't psychopaths and would get pissed of if compared to one.
It doesn't matter at all what his stated goal was. He knowingly took totally unacceptable risks with other peoples lives. If I knowingly do anything that involves unacceptable risks of killing anyone else, it sure as hell is attempted murder. I'd say, off the top of my head, that the risk of him killing or seriously injure someone is about 50-80 percent, especially since he will be barely awake for a major part of the journey while at high speeds meeting and taking over thousands of cars. I'd say he's taking same risks with others lives as one would get from pointing a big gun at someone and pulling the trigger.
Maybe, in some of the more backward states, there is a legal loophole somewhere that says: "If you do this while trying to break a record, it's OK.", but I don't think/hope so.
What a fucking bastard. To call him a geek is an insult to me and all other geeks i know of.
To endanger other people's lives like this is utterly despicable. Obviously, he doesn't care if he kills someone along the way. If he did, he wouldn't do this. Or what, is he a superhumanly safe driver is some non-imaginative way? Not fucking likely.
Put that asshole in jail(it would be OK to lose the key) right now, for showing that he has the obvious intent to go out try to kill people.
And why Slashdot sinks to the depths of publishing such a positively toned article about this psycho is far beyond me.
I won't flame you. Just disagree. Ok, maybe flame a little then: Because your post is simply a not-so-small pile of bullshit, which *maybe* was even only part true a couple of years ago.
And..eeh.. Isn't the fact that you have to buy special Sun hardware to get something that just works with Solaris kind of crappy? Why not, in that case, buy hardware that you know are extremely compatible with your preferred linux distro? Or a mac?
Or what? Is your point that I can get insanely good stuff by paying an far more than-equally-insane amount of money? No shit, sherlock.
It doesn't matter one tiny bit what your mother did to/with you. She's one individual among millions. Well, she isn't a cookbook, that's for sure.
Actually, no. It applies to explosively expanding middle class from the early 20th century onwards. (Hint: why do you think 'dinner with the boss' was a staple of sitcoms from very early on?) Expanding, yes, but nothing like it is now. I am were talking the fifties and backwards here. There was no TV, and even less, sitcoms by then. And how other would the boss come to dinner?
The grandparent is welcome to misuse standard terms in whatever manner he desires. I prefer to to use their standard meanings. He poses the question whether it can be expanded. I think so. Please state your opinion in an answer to THAT post instead of starting this dwindling thread because of something you obviously know is a misunderstanding.
Please don't disregard the sacrifices they made. What are you talking about? Nobody is disregarding anything. You're missing the point. They were not sacrificing a possible career. They took it. You have obviously not stayed home with children for any longer duration. No matter how much you love them, If you are an educated and ambitious person, towards the end IT WILL DRIVE YOU NUTS to only say "dada" all day long and not have any normal interaction with grown-ups. Actually, it feels so damn good to go back to work that you feel guilty about it.
I really feel for the many, many women that had so much capacity left unappreciated. It must have felt enormously frustrating.
I won't respond to any more replies in this thread now. Please have the last word if you wish.
Aztec? Chalchiuhtlicue, Is that you? It sure sounds like your 2000 year-old values.
Yep, I agree, they really love their lives them housewives nowadays. I mean, when one is 45 years old and the children are out of the house, that's when all that staying home for all those years pays off. One can get really nice jobs at convenience stores everywhere. Which, contrary to popular beliefs, does NOT lead to bitterness or the feeling of sacrifice. And it's not like the risk of divorce looms anywhere.
Face it, Billy Bob. A modern woman of any ambition will not be prepared to become a full time housewife.
Back in the day when only one parent worked out of the home, the other parent generally spent an equal amount of hours working in the home. (Cooking, cleaning, etc...) They had no, or very little, time for 'quality time'. Except that the grandparent meant that just being around the parent, working or not, IS quality time.
If the wife was expected to sacrifice herself for anyone - it was the husband Yep, the husband and his wishes. But also by the society as a whole to care for the children. Obviously, the husband expected his wife to care for them. The business part only applies to a quite small, and upper class, part of the society.
You missed an option. 'Or you are someone who has actually read on and studied the issue and is aware of the truth and prefers it spouting myths'. Maybe you've read and studied, but I'd still say that you have missed the point.
For example: My mother, born in the early thirties, was at home during my upbringing. I KNOW that she sacrificed her own career to be home with me and cater hes husband. Why? Because when she was brought up, that was what she was taught to do. I know for a fact most of her friends did the same.
So I have actually experienced this. I promise you that I haven't read that in a cookbook. And it is not a "myth".
Obviously build quality is also of importance as you point out, but it's worth paying attention to electrical properties too. Sure, but normally, these things go hand in hand.
True enough.. but that reliability tops out at around 100-200 bucks and then it becomes better to just replace your cables often I'd say it levels out much earlier, at 70-90 bucks rather. Actually, i am having problems finding more expensive guitar cables than than in normal stores. Maybe I've missed something? What happens at 200 bucks?
Well, some bands, like mine, combine two things: Heavy metal and step dancing. We call it: Step Metal.
The lyrics commonly involves phrases like "I am gonna step ya", "S.T.E.P." and "Don't step on me". We also released a single the other day called: "I wanna step".
I wouldn't feel guilty about the guitar cables, that's a completely different thing...
There, the reason for buying expensive cables isn't usually much one of sound quality. Since the cable of an electric guitar is constantly bent,flexed and stepped on, it is more one about reliability.
There are few things more irritating than crappy, stiff and badly soldered guitar cables that break after five sessions.
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Yep, it is a cool number. But isn't that strange? That some combinations of characters and numbers are cooler than others?
And it is not because they have a specific mathematical meaning or any thing? Most people are blissfully unaware of that anyway.
We all just seem to agree that M33 X-7 is cool. In an eighties kind of way? Like Mazda RX7, BMW M3 or the likes.
Do anyone know anything about this?
Actually, it is illegal for truck drivers, for example. I think they have a 10 hour limit. Remember that they are professionals with a comfortable working environment and that they have experience of doing these things regularly. Also, they stop for short intervals. They have to keep itineraries. Whether he actually killed someone or not is obviously completely irrelevant. Since we know the outcome, we have more information about what went into it. Yeah, if you look at it solely as a mathematic problem with a known complexity.
If you don't know anything, the amount of information you get from the first outcome i so unimportant that it doesn't matter, hence it's low relevance. Now you've really revealed that you think the positive outcome of this event was pure coincidence Have I? Interesting, since i never did so.
No, I don't think it was pure coincidence. He probably tried to avoid collisions to not have to go to jail for reckless endangerment or even murder(implied malice, the felony murder rule).
But I did. It is a really old law, BTW.
Free speech?
Do you believe the crap you write? I am about as non-conservative as they get, moron. And I am an atheist to.
I am not easily offended, I can assure you that, but when someone writes crap like this i tend to get pissed off.
This has nothing to do with naked tits or cursing or anything like that.
It is about not glorifying fucking awful behavior. I don't tolerate that. And you shouldn't either.
You are actually making free speech harder.
Your are using it as a means to try to suppress my views and to try and turn this into what you think it is:
Kind of cool.
Whether he actually killed someone or not is obviously completely irrelevant.
He and his copilot drove for 31 hours straight, which means that they were at the wheel for more that 15 hours each.
This is extremely dangerous(and probably illegal) even at normal speeds. One don't even know that one has fallen asleep, not to speak of the long reaction time that evolves, hallucinations and physical stress.
He did this a high speed which is so stupid that I don't know where to begin to describe it.
And it is not like you only double your breaking distance(hence allowed reaction time) by doubling you speed.
And then it's tunnel vision. And many other things.
And you probably know that. Still you make this comment. Calm down and get some perspective for a minute there, Captain Moral Outrage. If I shoot a entire clip of bullets in your general direction and miss all of them, that's OK with you, right?
I mean, from your perspective?
ii) So that Slashdot The Community can formulate and express an opinion about this psycho and said sickly article? i) I hope that's wasn't the reason... But it probably was.
ii) OK, I give you that the community can handle the article.
But what I don't like the publicity Slashdot is giving him, in a completely biased article, that never in any serious way questions whether it really is to do what he is doing.
That's not journalism, it's propaganda, and it influences people, also the slashdot community, whether you like it or not.
Just look at the comments, most are actually buying in on this, thinking it is "kinda cool".
Slashdot is a really powerful medium, and should be treated responsibly.
I just don't think it is responsible to glorify horrible crap like this.
Respecting others right to live and breathe is serious stuff.
But that only entitles him to drive a little bit faster than others.
Now, if he also was into Star Trek and Star Trek TNG, Doctor Who, Firefly and Babylon 5, he would probably have a fair chance of breaking the record. And that would be OK.
I don't know for sure, so I can't really say.
I was rather into the logical consequence than the law when I talked about attempted murder.
But I'd say that it sure looks like implied malice to me:
"Implied malice is proven by acts that involve reckless indifference to human life or in a death that occurs during the commission of certain felonies (the felony murder rule)."
But the headline was: "Geek and Gadgets Set Cross-US Speed Record", not "Idiot and Gadgets Set Cross-US Speed Record".
That's what pissed me off.
I suppose I just thought that geeks in general weren't psychopaths and would get pissed of if compared to one.
I was obviously wrong.
Eeh.. What?
It doesn't matter at all what his stated goal was. He knowingly took totally unacceptable risks with other peoples lives.
If I knowingly do anything that involves unacceptable risks of killing anyone else, it sure as hell is attempted murder.
I'd say, off the top of my head, that the risk of him killing or seriously injure someone is about 50-80 percent, especially since he will be barely awake for a major part of the journey while at high speeds meeting and taking over thousands of cars.
I'd say he's taking same risks with others lives as one would get from pointing a big gun at someone and pulling the trigger.
Maybe, in some of the more backward states, there is a legal loophole somewhere that says: "If you do this while trying to break a record, it's OK.", but I don't think/hope so.
What a fucking bastard.
To call him a geek is an insult to me and all other geeks i know of.
To endanger other people's lives like this is utterly despicable.
Obviously, he doesn't care if he kills someone along the way. If he did, he wouldn't do this.
Or what, is he a superhumanly safe driver is some non-imaginative way? Not fucking likely.
Put that asshole in jail(it would be OK to lose the key) right now, for showing that he has the obvious intent to go out try to kill people.
And why Slashdot sinks to the depths of publishing such a positively toned article about this psycho is far beyond me.
I won't flame you. Just disagree. Ok, maybe flame a little then:
Because your post is simply a not-so-small pile of bullshit, which *maybe* was even only part true a couple of years ago.
And..eeh.. Isn't the fact that you have to buy special Sun hardware to get something that just works with Solaris kind of crappy?
Why not, in that case, buy hardware that you know are extremely compatible with your preferred linux distro? Or a mac?
Or what? Is your point that I can get insanely good stuff by paying an far more than-equally-insane amount of money?
No shit, sherlock.
Funny, my interest did the exact opposite after reading the following:
:-)
"Proprietary firmware on closed system prevents hacker access"
Hm.. Were have I heard that one before?
There was no TV, and even less, sitcoms by then. And how other would the boss come to dinner? The grandparent is welcome to misuse standard terms in whatever manner he desires. I prefer to to use their standard meanings. He poses the question whether it can be expanded. I think so. Please state your opinion in an answer to THAT post instead of starting this dwindling thread because of something you obviously know is a misunderstanding.
You have obviously not stayed home with children for any longer duration.
No matter how much you love them, If you are an educated and ambitious person, towards the end IT WILL DRIVE YOU NUTS to only say "dada" all day long and not have any normal interaction with grown-ups.
Actually, it feels so damn good to go back to work that you feel guilty about it.
I really feel for the many, many women that had so much capacity left unappreciated.
It must have felt enormously frustrating.
I won't respond to any more replies in this thread now. Please have the last word if you wish.
Aztec? Chalchiuhtlicue, Is that you?
It sure sounds like your 2000 year-old values.
Yep, I agree, they really love their lives them housewives nowadays.
I mean, when one is 45 years old and the children are out of the house, that's when all that staying home for all those years pays off.
One can get really nice jobs at convenience stores everywhere. Which, contrary to popular beliefs, does NOT lead to bitterness or the feeling of sacrifice.
And it's not like the risk of divorce looms anywhere.
Face it, Billy Bob. A modern woman of any ambition will not be prepared to become a full time housewife.
Obviously, the husband expected his wife to care for them.
The business part only applies to a quite small, and upper class, part of the society. You missed an option. 'Or you are someone who has actually read on and studied the issue and is aware of the truth and prefers it spouting myths'. Maybe you've read and studied, but I'd still say that you have missed the point.
For example:
My mother, born in the early thirties, was at home during my upbringing. I KNOW that she sacrificed her own career to be home with me and cater hes husband.
Why? Because when she was brought up, that was what she was taught to do. I know for a fact most of her friends did the same.
So I have actually experienced this. I promise you that I haven't read that in a cookbook. And it is not a "myth".
The problem in the U.S. isn't about the universities, from what I've understood.
Eeh.. You're the one who's clueless.
In the old days, only one parent worked, meaning LOT'S of quality time.
n the old days, parents(at least the mother) were expected to TOTALLY sacrifice themselves.
Either, you are extremely young, or you have grown up in some former soviet state or similar.
Actually, i am having problems finding more expensive guitar cables than than in normal stores.
Maybe I've missed something? What happens at 200 bucks?
Well, some bands, like mine, combine two things: Heavy metal and step dancing.
We call it: Step Metal.
The lyrics commonly involves phrases like "I am gonna step ya", "S.T.E.P." and "Don't step on me".
We also released a single the other day called: "I wanna step".
I wouldn't feel guilty about the guitar cables, that's a completely different thing...
There, the reason for buying expensive cables isn't usually much one of sound quality.
Since the cable of an electric guitar is constantly bent,flexed and stepped on, it is more one about reliability.
There are few things more irritating than crappy, stiff and badly soldered guitar cables that break after five sessions.