You may be referring to the late night commercials for Blu. A demonstrably inferior product made by one vendor. If the FDA was simply concerned with claims, they would order that one vendor to stop. The other vendors I know of have carefully avoided making any sort of health claim for over 10 years. The device I currently own has no claims about health attached to it at all. Perhaps you should go have a look on fda.gov.
Actually, there has been some research done. Then there is simple logic. Ecig vapor contains nothing not also contained in cigarettes. It also does not contain a number of harmful things that cigarette smoke does contain. That doesn't prove safety in an absolute sense, but it does strongly suggest less harm than cigarettes.
As for the batteries, yes, that is exactly what I am saying. They are in separate compartments. The only connection is electrical. Again, you may be thinking of the entirely inadequate and inferior products on late-night television.
Otherwise, yes, LiIon batteries can have problems. Sounds like a job for the FTC, not the FDA. Though the ecigs these days (other than the crappy ones on TV) have switched to LMR batteries which are far less likely to have a problem. The cellphones have not because LMR batteries are larger and they want thin phones for some reason.
Interestingly, the way the FDA crafted it's restrictions, those entirely inadequate devices where the battery is in the airstream will be permitted under a grandfather clause. It is the safer and more effective devices where the battery is completely isolated that the new regulations will block.
You may find it interesting that there exist ejuices that contain no nicotine whatsoever. Nothing at all derived from tobacco. According to the FDA, it is somehow still a tobacco product.
No, but I also don't conflate "shotguns" and "every single insecticide ever made". You do realize that among North American insects with wide distribution, no other insect has a water based larva stage utilizing little temporary pools of stagnant water like mosquitoes do? There's every reason to suspect these small pools can be targeted with chemicals that 1. do not affect other insects and 2. will be diluted to inconsequentially small concentrations in larger bodies of water.
You are incorrect, dragonfly larvae are also water based and like the same conditions mosquitos do. Dragonflies are a significant mosquito predator.
I think that broad spectrum insecticides that are highly effective against adult form mosquitoes are completely appropriate for hotspots around known cases and larvacides not known to be especially toxic to other life forms should be used liberally everywhere there are humans present (I'm not sure on the status on these. They might be somewhat toxic to amphibians, but if there aren't any known endangered species in an area I'd say it's worth it regardless) until the Zika reservoir appears to have burnt itself out (a big question here is whether any non-human animals are going to be effective reservoirs) and/or until a vaccination or major aedes egypti eradication campaign can be started.
Amphibians in North America are in decline for unknown reasons. They tend to be susceptible to insecticides. They are also a significant mosquito predator. Meanwhile, there are no zika reservoirs in SC, so consider those imagined reservoirs burned out.
What's your counterargument? Be conservative even though we know the reservoir still exists and that the pesticides aren't known to be particularly dangerous to humans and risk allowing this thing to go global before we have countermeasures? (Forgive me for being USA-centric but I think there's more international travel here than in Brazil.) I can crunch some back of the envelope numbers on this if you want, but I somehow doubt you're interested in an actual cost/risk/benefit analysis.
We were talking about measures in SC. Perhaps you forgot. There is no reservoir there.There have been no cases of zika transmission of any kind in SC.
Did you know that the insecticides in use in Brazil are also suspected of causing neurological damage to a developing fetus? Many insecticides are. We are very much in "shotgun territory" here.
As for A. Aegypti, I support eradication so long as it is specific to the species (such as releases of sterile males). It's an invasive species.
That's just the thing though. If you can't keep an engineering staff if the toilets are all clogged and overflowing, then the janitorial staff is clearly a contributor to engineering. Meanwhile, you can't sell product is you can't design a product, so the engineers are clearly a contributor to sales.
Of course, sales people are also a cost center. Ideally, customers would just beat a path to your door and enter their own orders, but since that doesn't happen, you have to burn money on sales staff.
Just because it's too complex for you to compute doesn't make it untrue.
Yes, you said it, but Wall Street suggests otherwise. Since I doubt we'll ever pry it from their hands, the next best is to provide it to the masses and declare the people of the United States to be too big to fail.
No, I claimed that SCs current actions were unnecessary and useless. When you demanded an actual solution, I suggested repellent and limited spraying. You then went nutz claiming I am against 'teh chemicals' in spite of my statement that repellents and perhaps limited spraying should be used (last I checked, both of those involve chemicals). It seems your mind was made up and you took offense at my confusing you with facts.
Tell me, when a fly lands on your TV, do you blow it away with a shotgun or do you prefer a more measured response designed to minimize the risk of damaging the TV?
A few things you might want to consider before responding:
I stated that there have been no SC outbreaks of dengue, which is spread by the same mosquito, even though there have been cases of dengue in SC, brought in by people travelling abroad much like zika. This suggests that environmental factors in SC are not as conducive to mosquito borne illnesses as Fla. and Brazil.
Since you advocate an action that has already been proven to be harmful, the onus is on you to show that it is necessary and that it will do more good than harm.
Yes, there is positive feedback, and there is competition to provide negative feedback (damping) as well. Either it works with an indexed basic income or it doesn't work with wage only income and we're all destined to work 16 hour days and still starve.
South Carolina’s protocol for Zika infections is to alert local officials of a carrier’s residence, which they “consider a ground zero”, Weyman said. Local authorities then target the local mosquitos in a 200-yard radius, in this case with spray.
Now, can you explain again how treating the infectees with mosquito repellent would be any less effective than the poorly targeted spraying?
But do read the rest of TFA first so you don't make an ass of yourself again.
There have been ZERO transmissions of zika in SC. None at all. Not even once. Are you seeing the trend? That means there is no cycle to break in SC. If it doesn't exist, you can't break it.
SC has also never been a site of outbreaks of dengue or any other diseases carried by the same mosquito.
That being established, a better technique would be to spray people bringing zika back home with them with insect repellent so they don't introduce zika to the local mosquito population in the first place. If they feel they must use insecticides, they could use ground spraying to limit the coverage to just around the victims' homes.
Amusingly, Kudzu was introduced deliberately (over the objections of people you call neo-Luddites) to control soil erosion.
I am no luddite, I just don't believe that ham fisted bumbling by politicians who want to appear to be DOING SOMETHING about THE PROBLEM is a good answer to much of anything.
Some use a lot of effects, others actually use very few.
Modern digital circuits can approximate the tube sound, but it's actually fairly complex in the case of guitar. In a regular old amp, you can get by with having a huge headroom so the transistors never overload. In a guitar, overloading the amp is part of the sound. Transistors and tubes behave very differently under those conditions. It just happens that the overload characteristics of a tube is much more pleasing to the ear than the characteristics of solid state electronics. It takes a lot of expensive digital processing to more or less emulate the effects of a cheap tube.
On a side note, it just happens that the harmonics produced by a mildly overloaded tube cause the human ear to perceive the sound as louder, so a tube amp will sound like it has a better dynamic range than it actually does.
If you're going to assume nothing will be effective because corruption, we should skip the soap ballot and jury boxes and break out the ammo boxes now. Why wait if no government or other social action can be effective?
After all, if no amount of voting for the solution can cause the solution, it isn't a democracy anyway.
America has and had it's own varieties of wild bees and other insects that pollinate, but they're likely as sensitive to pesticides as the European Honeybee.
Of course, the dumbest part of this is that there has been no case of zika transmission in SC. All existing cases are people who contracted it abroad and then returned home with it. Spray them with insect repellent and call it good.
Clearly it is you who are illiterate since you didn't seem to understand that I was indicating there was no need to hedge on a prediction that Obamacare would fail.
When you want dreds, you are supposed to beat your HAIR on a rock, not your HEAD.
We've tried double taxes before in the past 100 years. Heck, we've tried just about everything imaginable. But under every plan we've never sustained federal revenue above 20% of GDP. That's about 10% more than we get now.
That's only numerically possible if you leave loopholes to let the richest dodge their taxes. Think about it. Solution: don't do that.
And what if someone does take your booked space, okay they can be fined but you still can't park there until they move. What you want is an app that can tell you where free spaces are so you can save time by not driving around looking for one.
No, what they really want is an app that can fling the offending car into a nearby dumpster so they can park in their reserved space.
Gulf states with tiny populations? I think you must be holding your map sideways or something. Kansas would be a better example of oil production with low population. If you can't get your facts right, why should I believe your conclusions?
Are you kidding? Wall street is flying high on wish money. It's the rest of us (who aren't allowed to wish money into existence) that can't make ends meet.
Wages increasing to keep up with inflation? That sounds like a nice change of pace, let's do it!
More seriously, there would likely be SOME inflation, but since the economy can't tell the difference between basic income money and wage money, it's not going to be the problem you expect. Just index the basic income to inflation and it'll find an equilibrium.
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You may be referring to the late night commercials for Blu. A demonstrably inferior product made by one vendor. If the FDA was simply concerned with claims, they would order that one vendor to stop. The other vendors I know of have carefully avoided making any sort of health claim for over 10 years. The device I currently own has no claims about health attached to it at all. Perhaps you should go have a look on fda.gov.
Actually, there has been some research done. Then there is simple logic. Ecig vapor contains nothing not also contained in cigarettes. It also does not contain a number of harmful things that cigarette smoke does contain. That doesn't prove safety in an absolute sense, but it does strongly suggest less harm than cigarettes.
As for the batteries, yes, that is exactly what I am saying. They are in separate compartments. The only connection is electrical. Again, you may be thinking of the entirely inadequate and inferior products on late-night television.
Otherwise, yes, LiIon batteries can have problems. Sounds like a job for the FTC, not the FDA. Though the ecigs these days (other than the crappy ones on TV) have switched to LMR batteries which are far less likely to have a problem. The cellphones have not because LMR batteries are larger and they want thin phones for some reason.
Interestingly, the way the FDA crafted it's restrictions, those entirely inadequate devices where the battery is in the airstream will be permitted under a grandfather clause. It is the safer and more effective devices where the battery is completely isolated that the new regulations will block.
You may find it interesting that there exist ejuices that contain no nicotine whatsoever. Nothing at all derived from tobacco. According to the FDA, it is somehow still a tobacco product.
No, but I also don't conflate "shotguns" and "every single insecticide ever made". You do realize that among North American insects with wide distribution, no other insect has a water based larva stage utilizing little temporary pools of stagnant water like mosquitoes do? There's every reason to suspect these small pools can be targeted with chemicals that 1. do not affect other insects and 2. will be diluted to inconsequentially small concentrations in larger bodies of water.
You are incorrect, dragonfly larvae are also water based and like the same conditions mosquitos do. Dragonflies are a significant mosquito predator.
I think that broad spectrum insecticides that are highly effective against adult form mosquitoes are completely appropriate for hotspots around known cases and larvacides not known to be especially toxic to other life forms should be used liberally everywhere there are humans present (I'm not sure on the status on these. They might be somewhat toxic to amphibians, but if there aren't any known endangered species in an area I'd say it's worth it regardless) until the Zika reservoir appears to have burnt itself out (a big question here is whether any non-human animals are going to be effective reservoirs) and/or until a vaccination or major aedes egypti eradication campaign can be started.
Amphibians in North America are in decline for unknown reasons. They tend to be susceptible to insecticides. They are also a significant mosquito predator. Meanwhile, there are no zika reservoirs in SC, so consider those imagined reservoirs burned out.
What's your counterargument? Be conservative even though we know the reservoir still exists and that the pesticides aren't known to be particularly dangerous to humans and risk allowing this thing to go global before we have countermeasures? (Forgive me for being USA-centric but I think there's more international travel here than in Brazil.) I can crunch some back of the envelope numbers on this if you want, but I somehow doubt you're interested in an actual cost/risk/benefit analysis.
We were talking about measures in SC. Perhaps you forgot. There is no reservoir there.There have been no cases of zika transmission of any kind in SC.
Did you know that the insecticides in use in Brazil are also suspected of causing neurological damage to a developing fetus? Many insecticides are. We are very much in "shotgun territory" here.
As for A. Aegypti, I support eradication so long as it is specific to the species (such as releases of sterile males). It's an invasive species.
That's just the thing though. If you can't keep an engineering staff if the toilets are all clogged and overflowing, then the janitorial staff is clearly a contributor to engineering. Meanwhile, you can't sell product is you can't design a product, so the engineers are clearly a contributor to sales.
Of course, sales people are also a cost center. Ideally, customers would just beat a path to your door and enter their own orders, but since that doesn't happen, you have to burn money on sales staff.
Just because it's too complex for you to compute doesn't make it untrue.
Yes, you said it, but Wall Street suggests otherwise. Since I doubt we'll ever pry it from their hands, the next best is to provide it to the masses and declare the people of the United States to be too big to fail.
No, I claimed that SCs current actions were unnecessary and useless. When you demanded an actual solution, I suggested repellent and limited spraying. You then went nutz claiming I am against 'teh chemicals' in spite of my statement that repellents and perhaps limited spraying should be used (last I checked, both of those involve chemicals). It seems your mind was made up and you took offense at my confusing you with facts.
Tell me, when a fly lands on your TV, do you blow it away with a shotgun or do you prefer a more measured response designed to minimize the risk of damaging the TV?
A few things you might want to consider before responding:
I stated that there have been no SC outbreaks of dengue, which is spread by the same mosquito, even though there have been cases of dengue in SC, brought in by people travelling abroad much like zika. This suggests that environmental factors in SC are not as conducive to mosquito borne illnesses as Fla. and Brazil.
Since you advocate an action that has already been proven to be harmful, the onus is on you to show that it is necessary and that it will do more good than harm.
Yes, there is positive feedback, and there is competition to provide negative feedback (damping) as well. Either it works with an indexed basic income or it doesn't work with wage only income and we're all destined to work 16 hour days and still starve.
From TFA:
South Carolina’s protocol for Zika infections is to alert local officials of a carrier’s residence, which they “consider a ground zero”, Weyman said. Local authorities then target the local mosquitos in a 200-yard radius, in this case with spray.
Now, can you explain again how treating the infectees with mosquito repellent would be any less effective than the poorly targeted spraying?
But do read the rest of TFA first so you don't make an ass of yourself again.
There have been ZERO transmissions of zika in SC. None at all. Not even once. Are you seeing the trend? That means there is no cycle to break in SC. If it doesn't exist, you can't break it.
SC has also never been a site of outbreaks of dengue or any other diseases carried by the same mosquito.
That being established, a better technique would be to spray people bringing zika back home with them with insect repellent so they don't introduce zika to the local mosquito population in the first place. If they feel they must use insecticides, they could use ground spraying to limit the coverage to just around the victims' homes.
Amusingly, Kudzu was introduced deliberately (over the objections of people you call neo-Luddites) to control soil erosion.
I am no luddite, I just don't believe that ham fisted bumbling by politicians who want to appear to be DOING SOMETHING about THE PROBLEM is a good answer to much of anything.
Some use a lot of effects, others actually use very few.
Modern digital circuits can approximate the tube sound, but it's actually fairly complex in the case of guitar. In a regular old amp, you can get by with having a huge headroom so the transistors never overload. In a guitar, overloading the amp is part of the sound. Transistors and tubes behave very differently under those conditions. It just happens that the overload characteristics of a tube is much more pleasing to the ear than the characteristics of solid state electronics. It takes a lot of expensive digital processing to more or less emulate the effects of a cheap tube.
On a side note, it just happens that the harmonics produced by a mildly overloaded tube cause the human ear to perceive the sound as louder, so a tube amp will sound like it has a better dynamic range than it actually does.
If you're going to assume nothing will be effective because corruption, we should skip the soap ballot and jury boxes and break out the ammo boxes now. Why wait if no government or other social action can be effective?
After all, if no amount of voting for the solution can cause the solution, it isn't a democracy anyway.
Nothing shaky about it. The science was well done and replicated all over the world many times.
While you're at it, be sure to kill the kudzu. It is responsible for just as many cases of zika transmission in SC as the mosquitoes (that is, none).
America has and had it's own varieties of wild bees and other insects that pollinate, but they're likely as sensitive to pesticides as the European Honeybee.
Of course, the dumbest part of this is that there has been no case of zika transmission in SC. All existing cases are people who contracted it abroad and then returned home with it. Spray them with insect repellent and call it good.
Clearly it is you who are illiterate since you didn't seem to understand that I was indicating there was no need to hedge on a prediction that Obamacare would fail.
When you want dreds, you are supposed to beat your HAIR on a rock, not your HEAD.
We've tried double taxes before in the past 100 years. Heck, we've tried just about everything imaginable. But under every plan we've never sustained federal revenue above 20% of GDP. That's about 10% more than we get now.
That's only numerically possible if you leave loopholes to let the richest dodge their taxes. Think about it. Solution: don't do that.
And what if someone does take your booked space, okay they can be fined but you still can't park there until they move. What you want is an app that can tell you where free spaces are so you can save time by not driving around looking for one.
No, what they really want is an app that can fling the offending car into a nearby dumpster so they can park in their reserved space.
Read again very carefully, word by word. Sound them out if necessary. Then turn beet red. If you still don't see why you should, ask your parents.
Gulf states with tiny populations? I think you must be holding your map sideways or something. Kansas would be a better example of oil production with low population. If you can't get your facts right, why should I believe your conclusions?
Why, were you fronting excuses in case they worked? What a waste of effort.
Are you kidding? Wall street is flying high on wish money. It's the rest of us (who aren't allowed to wish money into existence) that can't make ends meet.
Doesn't matter to me, I'll just write the AC off as an empty mind aping a right wing position if that's the best he can do.
Not as well as it could since they don't implement the basic income.
Even so, it doesn't work half bad even with the right doing it's best to monkey wrench it.
You'd be amazed how much oil and gas is produced in the midwest, but that's beside the point. The U.S. is hardly resource poor.
By the same token, my bucket will never fill in the desert.
Wages increasing to keep up with inflation? That sounds like a nice change of pace, let's do it!
More seriously, there would likely be SOME inflation, but since the economy can't tell the difference between basic income money and wage money, it's not going to be the problem you expect. Just index the basic income to inflation and it'll find an equilibrium.