Question: We have government today, and have had such for 227 years (starting at the Constitution). Have wages *ever* been equal? In that entire time?
It has varied over time. Wages have been closer to equal during eras where the government was more interventionist and they have been less equal when the policy is hands off.
If you read more carefully, at least one promise made by sales/marketing was borderline illegal. That second thing, managers not recognizing that risks identified by engineers may actually become problems is firmly a management problem. The engineer's job is to identify the risks. It is management's job to balance risk and reward on the business side. Bad managers take credit for the rewards and blame the risks on the engineers.
Your favorite CxO is a great counter example. He took ownership of the communications process and learned enough to make that communication effective. That's what management is supposed to do.
So tell me, how many servers does it take?
Guess what, if you attempt to answer that question honestly, you will use a construct that reads like "it depends" because it really DOES depend on what I want those servers to do.
If you will watch the video, the officer DID step over the students, then turned and sprayed pepper spray in their faces. So you're saying that in addition to being unnecessarily violent, he is also stupid?
Isn't it funny how management never seems to be on the block for offshoring even though there are many fine European CEOs used to working for less than 1/3 the pay of American CEOs.
Because you can't offshore the jobs the IBEW members have. It would be comedy gold to watch them try to send a ditch out to be dug or send a pole out to be re-wired though.
The UAW strikes didn't screw Detroit. The big three resting on their laurels and completely failing to see Japan and then Korea as disruptive forces in the auto industry did that, along with NAFTA.
It is all relevant. It is all evidence that there is no shortage of hirable citizens. That being the case, it makes Zuckerberg's claim highly questionable. Especially Zuckerberg (Facebook is famous for ageism, complete with bald statements from Zuckerberg that people over 30 aren't smart enough to work there).
Real shortages kill prejudice quickly. That's why "Women can't X" gave way to Rosie the riveter during WWII where there was a genuine worker shortage.
As for the poaching, if you had money flying out your backside but no food, would you really agree not to bid on that nice can of peaches over there?
If you CAN afford to not bid, there is no actual shortage.
So if there isn't a shortage, why might they be pushing for more H1-Bs? Well, it does avoid that bidding war and keep salaries down, that's for sure. That would better explain why Disney was willing to let over a hundred 'rare assets' go in favor of H1-Bs.
Many claim that cheap labor isn't the reason, but it's the only reason I see that lines up with the facts.
So how do you explain the prominent cases (not at Facebook or Google, I know) of people training the H1-Bs that replaced them?
As for the no-poaching, sure, it's a zero sum game but if you might be able to win the game, why agree not to play? If there is a real shortage, pay should be going up. It's basic supply and demand.
On the age thing, you may not be seeing the norm there.
I see the problem here. You didn't actually READ TFA (or the summary), you just saw that some poor schmuck might get something for nothing and went to DEFCON 1.
This is for people who have been found to be Totally And Permanently Disabled. That is, medically incapable of any sort of gainful employment. It also means there is no reasonable expectation that the situation will change. I'm guessing that involves more than a 35% drop in after tax employment income.
It is not for people who now need a cane or a wheelchair.
So, with that glaring error patched, tell me, what would be the point in needling such a person to pay off the student loan? How would you expect them to manage that given the lack of a time machine?
Sadly, no he isn't. The whole butter is the devil narrative includes various government agency recommendations, school lunch guidelines, PSAs, etc over a period of decades. They actually recommended trans-fats as a substitute for much of that time.
The same crap science is behind the sugar frosted cardboard that passes for pre-prepared food these days.
We already covered it, in the U.S., if you have to go on disability, it pretty much does mean insolvency and unless you inherit a fortune or a miracle happens, that's it. The rest is just more wishes and horses on your part.
You seem to be pointedly dodging the question, perhaps because it would force you to admit that a "lefty" is being pragmatic by not throwing good money after bad.
As for nationalizing the program, that has nothing to do with creating the situation in question here. But you knew that, right?
And if wishes were horses, every man would ride. The actual question is right now, today, given that the money is gone and isn't coming back no matter how much we "they should have" and "if only" things, what is so wrong about Obama admitting that the situation (that was created long before he came in to office) isn't going to change and that there's no point needling them over it any more?
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Question: We have government today, and have had such for 227 years (starting at the Constitution). Have wages *ever* been equal? In that entire time?
It has varied over time. Wages have been closer to equal during eras where the government was more interventionist and they have been less equal when the policy is hands off.
If you read more carefully, at least one promise made by sales/marketing was borderline illegal. That second thing, managers not recognizing that risks identified by engineers may actually become problems is firmly a management problem. The engineer's job is to identify the risks. It is management's job to balance risk and reward on the business side. Bad managers take credit for the rewards and blame the risks on the engineers.
Your favorite CxO is a great counter example. He took ownership of the communications process and learned enough to make that communication effective. That's what management is supposed to do.
So tell me, how many servers does it take?
Guess what, if you attempt to answer that question honestly, you will use a construct that reads like "it depends" because it really DOES depend on what I want those servers to do.
You're just embarrassing yourself, really.
Personally, I like the smell of clean cotton. Of course, those perfumes don't actually smell anything like what they're supposed to IMHO.
True. All in all, I suppose as a principle I shouldn't be able to smell my hands.
You should educate yourself before you make silly claims like that.
If you will watch the video, the officer DID step over the students, then turned and sprayed pepper spray in their faces. So you're saying that in addition to being unnecessarily violent, he is also stupid?
Uhh, yeah, you do see the problem with that, right?
The Officers had no clear path to leave by.
You mean other than stepping over the sitting students, as they did before they pepper sprayed them.
Yes, the police were so hopelessly boxed in by the students they stepped over on the way to pepper spraying them.
Then please stock the bathrooms with an unscented soap rather than the stuff that smells worse than the poop and lingers longer.
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be relevant to some dude that accidentally rm -rf /.
That would be a real problem. SSDs don't typically provide low level access or documentation.
Further, oddly enough, rm -rf would result in a lot of writes as metadata is updated.
That used to be pretty much the standard deal in the U.S.. Ask your Dad.
Isn't it funny how management never seems to be on the block for offshoring even though there are many fine European CEOs used to working for less than 1/3 the pay of American CEOs.
Yes, Union = Progress!
Because you can't offshore the jobs the IBEW members have. It would be comedy gold to watch them try to send a ditch out to be dug or send a pole out to be re-wired though.
The UAW strikes didn't screw Detroit. The big three resting on their laurels and completely failing to see Japan and then Korea as disruptive forces in the auto industry did that, along with NAFTA.
It is all relevant. It is all evidence that there is no shortage of hirable citizens. That being the case, it makes Zuckerberg's claim highly questionable. Especially Zuckerberg (Facebook is famous for ageism, complete with bald statements from Zuckerberg that people over 30 aren't smart enough to work there).
Real shortages kill prejudice quickly. That's why "Women can't X" gave way to Rosie the riveter during WWII where there was a genuine worker shortage.
As for the poaching, if you had money flying out your backside but no food, would you really agree not to bid on that nice can of peaches over there?
If you CAN afford to not bid, there is no actual shortage.
So if there isn't a shortage, why might they be pushing for more H1-Bs? Well, it does avoid that bidding war and keep salaries down, that's for sure. That would better explain why Disney was willing to let over a hundred 'rare assets' go in favor of H1-Bs.
Many claim that cheap labor isn't the reason, but it's the only reason I see that lines up with the facts.
Begone troll. You are clearly unwilling or unable to apply even basic logic, much less thought in this thread.
So how do you explain the prominent cases (not at Facebook or Google, I know) of people training the H1-Bs that replaced them?
As for the no-poaching, sure, it's a zero sum game but if you might be able to win the game, why agree not to play? If there is a real shortage, pay should be going up. It's basic supply and demand.
On the age thing, you may not be seeing the norm there.
I see the problem here. You didn't actually READ TFA (or the summary), you just saw that some poor schmuck might get something for nothing and went to DEFCON 1.
This is for people who have been found to be Totally And Permanently Disabled. That is, medically incapable of any sort of gainful employment. It also means there is no reasonable expectation that the situation will change. I'm guessing that involves more than a 35% drop in after tax employment income.
It is not for people who now need a cane or a wheelchair.
So, with that glaring error patched, tell me, what would be the point in needling such a person to pay off the student loan? How would you expect them to manage that given the lack of a time machine?
Sadly, no he isn't. The whole butter is the devil narrative includes various government agency recommendations, school lunch guidelines, PSAs, etc over a period of decades. They actually recommended trans-fats as a substitute for much of that time.
The same crap science is behind the sugar frosted cardboard that passes for pre-prepared food these days.
We already covered it, in the U.S., if you have to go on disability, it pretty much does mean insolvency and unless you inherit a fortune or a miracle happens, that's it. The rest is just more wishes and horses on your part.
You seem to be pointedly dodging the question, perhaps because it would force you to admit that a "lefty" is being pragmatic by not throwing good money after bad.
As for nationalizing the program, that has nothing to do with creating the situation in question here. But you knew that, right?
And if wishes were horses, every man would ride. The actual question is right now, today, given that the money is gone and isn't coming back no matter how much we "they should have" and "if only" things, what is so wrong about Obama admitting that the situation (that was created long before he came in to office) isn't going to change and that there's no point needling them over it any more?
If there was an actual shortage, they would be open to hiring older workers and they would be open to hiring entry level and sending them to school.
They certainly wouldn't be participating in 'no poaching' agreements of questionable legality.