Urm, the 'cloud' solutions are what the whole damned article and discussion are about! If all you had to do is lock down the firewall in your router, this discussion wouldn't be necessary. You should probably go RTFA before you look silly.
I suggested the Free software so that whatever solution you go with is auditable and can be made to work no matter what the seller does later.
The hacker solution is just as easy to replicate as any other. Whatever works in one house will likely work in the next. They won't need to fab a custom CPU for each house or anything. The first time it is developed, it will be a hack (in the good sense), the rest copies.
I do not, actually, but there may be better explanations for his disappearance
I do and trying to sell raw milk is not why they went away. The same brand was also on the supermarket shelf (and still is). They were not at all a small operation. That makes your counterpoints a red herring.
But I was talking about another aspect — an otherwise inexpensive machine with "overly" powerful engine will cost more to insure.
Now you're making my point. That wasn't the case at one time. Then you could get a discount if you drove a sedan with a smaller engine. Now that 'discount' has turned into a hefty surcharge on cars with a smaller engine than what we used to consider a regular car had.
That depends on the state.
I live in a red state and I don't see much in the way of actual competition.
You skipped the whole HMO thing even though it is the most on-target example.
Whoever it was, they are not lobbying for the "spies" being mandatory.
That's because they don't have to get the auto makers to cooperate this time.
If you're satisfied with the ethics of your vendor, what are you complaining about here? The whole thread is about avoiding the problems with unethical companies selling data about you.
Just don't cry to me if you end up being a big star on a porn/reality show in Asia.
Any court would throw out any contract that was modified to allow spying without the customer explicitly signing that contract. You are reaching now.
Good luck with that. I'm sure they'll let you know that all you have to do to opt out is disable all of the hardware (no refund). That HAS been done before, successfully with DRMed media.
If the same piece of hardware is made and installed a large number of times by the same company it is no longer a hacker solution.
That is not necessarily true. I would suggest going with a Free software solution though. That makes it easier to make sure it doesn't phone home. I would also block any attempted outbound connections at the router. The problem with the 'cloud' solutions is that they quit working if you don't let them phone home.
The test looks for a set of 10 proteins in the blood. I suspect that part is fairly reliable which means the theory that those proteins are markers for Alzheimer's is probably incorrect or incomplete.
Because you can sue them if they do not follow their contract and spy on you. It is difficult to sue someone you can not find. Individuals can easily hide. It is much more difficult for a large company.
Would that be the standard contract where they claim the right to alter the deal at any time and your only real option is to pray that they don't alter it further?
I was talking about hiring someone to install hacker made devices.
So am I. Just because it's a hacker made solution doesn't mean the solution won't be the same for every install. It's not like they will have to write the firmware from scratch for every home.
Do you have examples from history to back up this prediction?
Pump yourself gas stations are an example. Perhaps you don't remember when all warranties were assumed to be through the store you bought the thing at. If it broke and it was small, you take it to the store, they give you a new one. If large, they come out and fix on site or bring you a new one. Then that was extra, then it got replaced with the 'extended warranty' where you take it back and they mail it off to be fixed (or not).
Before my time, the doctor came to you. Then that cost extra, then it was gone and still nobody can afford the doctor without insurance. Speaking of which, the horrible HMOs with their in-network this and out-of-network that and crazy medical coding used to be a cheaper option to conventional you go to the doctor, send us the bill insurers.(the latter were proportionally cheaper than the HMO plans of today).
Remember the milkman?
Remember when you could go to the department store and have a sales person who knew all about everything in the department and would stay with you as long as it took? Or you could go to the discount store and figure it out yourself but pay less. Now even the high end stores are more like the discount stores and the discount stores can't even manage to show you the same model you saw on the web.
There are already insurance penalties for certain kinds of cars
Yes, some rather expensive cars include rather expensive insurance. Most are not buying those because they can't afford them or the insurance. There is a big difference between that situation and be spied on by little brother or ride a bicycle.
Auto insurance compete a lot on branding and somewhat on extras, but a lot less on price/service than they would have you believe.
It will become constructively compulsory soon enough.
Today you get a discount. Tomorrow, rate hikes will consume the entire discount and without the discount will be barely affordable at all. The day after, the rate penalty for not using the device will be unaffordable to most motorists. Next week, it will be a hard condition for being insured.
For 1, then why would you trust a whole corporation full of unknown people?
For 2, people hire contractors to install A/C, new mahor appliances, siding, etc all the time. Why would this be different? I presume they won't need to do a full custom job, they'll have a set of software they usually use cookie cutter style.
If neither of those is acceptable, you'll either do without, or learn to DIY. If I have a phobia about strangers in my house, I'll either install the new range myself or struggle along with the old range.
Much of that more information is stuff law enforcement will already know. They already know where you live and likely where you work. The prediction doesn't have to be terribly accurate.
For most people on a weekday, guessing home or work will be correct most of the time. Guessing within your home state will be correct almost all of the time.
Law enforcement already knows that so they're not giving anything away.
Tower dumps DO contain location, it's just not precision data. Sure, it can't decide if I was in my bedroom or the living room, but it can decide if I am at home (or visiting a neighbor) vs. at work, across town, in Hawaii, etc.
So you don't mind becoming a child again? Not the good parts like boundless energy and essentially no responsibilities, the part where you have to do what Mama Blue Shield and Daddy Progressive tell you to do. I mean really, don't you think we're all a bit old to have someone feeling our toothbrushes and checking if the tub was used?
The problem with insurance characterizing risk is that eventually they get so good at it that you're better off just socking the payments away in a savings account.
Sure, the system needs to know where the phone is. What we need is an ethical provider that doesn't hand that information out without a court order and that doesn't log it beyond what is actually necessary for troubleshooting.
The very first level shouldn't even involve the proposed defendant. A judge should have to first look over the suit and see if it is even winnable. A surprising number of lawsuits allege the impossible or allege something that isn't actually a tort. For example, the guy who claimed that he was God and David Copperfield was usurping his divine powers in his show.
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Urm, the 'cloud' solutions are what the whole damned article and discussion are about! If all you had to do is lock down the firewall in your router, this discussion wouldn't be necessary. You should probably go RTFA before you look silly.
I suggested the Free software so that whatever solution you go with is auditable and can be made to work no matter what the seller does later.
The hacker solution is just as easy to replicate as any other. Whatever works in one house will likely work in the next. They won't need to fab a custom CPU for each house or anything. The first time it is developed, it will be a hack (in the good sense), the rest copies.
I do not, actually, but there may be better explanations for his disappearance
I do and trying to sell raw milk is not why they went away. The same brand was also on the supermarket shelf (and still is). They were not at all a small operation. That makes your counterpoints a red herring.
But I was talking about another aspect — an otherwise inexpensive machine with "overly" powerful engine will cost more to insure.
Now you're making my point. That wasn't the case at one time. Then you could get a discount if you drove a sedan with a smaller engine. Now that 'discount' has turned into a hefty surcharge on cars with a smaller engine than what we used to consider a regular car had.
That depends on the state.
I live in a red state and I don't see much in the way of actual competition.
You skipped the whole HMO thing even though it is the most on-target example.
Whoever it was, they are not lobbying for the "spies" being mandatory.
That's because they don't have to get the auto makers to cooperate this time.
I smell frog soup.
If you're satisfied with the ethics of your vendor, what are you complaining about here? The whole thread is about avoiding the problems with unethical companies selling data about you.
Just don't cry to me if you end up being a big star on a porn/reality show in Asia.
Any court would throw out any contract that was modified to allow spying without the customer explicitly signing that contract. You are reaching now.
Good luck with that. I'm sure they'll let you know that all you have to do to opt out is disable all of the hardware (no refund). That HAS been done before, successfully with DRMed media.
If the same piece of hardware is made and installed a large number of times by the same company it is no longer a hacker solution.
That is not necessarily true. I would suggest going with a Free software solution though. That makes it easier to make sure it doesn't phone home. I would also block any attempted outbound connections at the router. The problem with the 'cloud' solutions is that they quit working if you don't let them phone home.
Get a more ethical vendor. One whose business model doesn't include selling their customers to the highest bidder.
The test looks for a set of 10 proteins in the blood. I suspect that part is fairly reliable which means the theory that those proteins are markers for Alzheimer's is probably incorrect or incomplete.
That leans towards just not true.
Because you can sue them if they do not follow their contract and spy on you. It is difficult to sue someone you can not find. Individuals can easily hide. It is much more difficult for a large company.
Would that be the standard contract where they claim the right to alter the deal at any time and your only real option is to pray that they don't alter it further?
I was talking about hiring someone to install hacker made devices.
So am I. Just because it's a hacker made solution doesn't mean the solution won't be the same for every install. It's not like they will have to write the firmware from scratch for every home.
The law made them compulsory. Not the insurance companies.
Guess who lobbied for the seat belt laws!
Maybe, they did not rise as fast as inflation during those few years?
They should have fallen as soon as the law was being enforced. Otherwise, they were just pocketing the difference.
Sorry about the double reply.
Do you have examples from history to back up this prediction?
Pump yourself gas stations are an example. Perhaps you don't remember when all warranties were assumed to be through the store you bought the thing at. If it broke and it was small, you take it to the store, they give you a new one. If large, they come out and fix on site or bring you a new one. Then that was extra, then it got replaced with the 'extended warranty' where you take it back and they mail it off to be fixed (or not).
Before my time, the doctor came to you. Then that cost extra, then it was gone and still nobody can afford the doctor without insurance. Speaking of which, the horrible HMOs with their in-network this and out-of-network that and crazy medical coding used to be a cheaper option to conventional you go to the doctor, send us the bill insurers.(the latter were proportionally cheaper than the HMO plans of today).
Remember the milkman?
Remember when you could go to the department store and have a sales person who knew all about everything in the department and would stay with you as long as it took? Or you could go to the discount store and figure it out yourself but pay less. Now even the high end stores are more like the discount stores and the discount stores can't even manage to show you the same model you saw on the web.
There are already insurance penalties for certain kinds of cars
Yes, some rather expensive cars include rather expensive insurance. Most are not buying those because they can't afford them or the insurance. There is a big difference between that situation and be spied on by little brother or ride a bicycle.
Auto insurance compete a lot on branding and somewhat on extras, but a lot less on price/service than they would have you believe.
On the other hand, if the guy in the car you hit dies, there's a huge payout to the family.
Oh you better not shout! Your better not cry! You better not pout! I'm telling you why, Insurance co. is coming to town.
It's making a list, checking it twice. Gonna find out who's naughty and nice! Insurance co. is coming to town.
It knows if you've been sleeping. It knows when you're awake. It knows if you've been bad of good, So be good or you will PAY!
But don't worru, We have SSRIs to help with the natural depression and sense of dread this will create. Better a gram than a damn!
They're not whoring themselves out, they're making a choice to expose their genitals for money.
It will become constructively compulsory soon enough.
Today you get a discount. Tomorrow, rate hikes will consume the entire discount and without the discount will be barely affordable at all. The day after, the rate penalty for not using the device will be unaffordable to most motorists. Next week, it will be a hard condition for being insured.
Naturally, profits will be way up.
For 1, then why would you trust a whole corporation full of unknown people?
For 2, people hire contractors to install A/C, new mahor appliances, siding, etc all the time. Why would this be different? I presume they won't need to do a full custom job, they'll have a set of software they usually use cookie cutter style.
If neither of those is acceptable, you'll either do without, or learn to DIY. If I have a phobia about strangers in my house, I'll either install the new range myself or struggle along with the old range.
Much of that more information is stuff law enforcement will already know. They already know where you live and likely where you work. The prediction doesn't have to be terribly accurate.
For most people on a weekday, guessing home or work will be correct most of the time. Guessing within your home state will be correct almost all of the time.
Law enforcement already knows that so they're not giving anything away.
Then the subject shouldn't have claimed the dumps don't contain location. They do.
Tower dumps DO contain location, it's just not precision data. Sure, it can't decide if I was in my bedroom or the living room, but it can decide if I am at home (or visiting a neighbor) vs. at work, across town, in Hawaii, etc.
They have the option of hiring someone to do it for them.
So you don't mind becoming a child again? Not the good parts like boundless energy and essentially no responsibilities, the part where you have to do what Mama Blue Shield and Daddy Progressive tell you to do. I mean really, don't you think we're all a bit old to have someone feeling our toothbrushes and checking if the tub was used?
The problem with insurance characterizing risk is that eventually they get so good at it that you're better off just socking the payments away in a savings account.
Sure, the system needs to know where the phone is. What we need is an ethical provider that doesn't hand that information out without a court order and that doesn't log it beyond what is actually necessary for troubleshooting.
Yeah, I know, ethical company.
If you can't take the heat, don't drop the F-bomb.
Sure. But what would distinguish a flash drive from all of the other electronics?
The very first level shouldn't even involve the proposed defendant. A judge should have to first look over the suit and see if it is even winnable. A surprising number of lawsuits allege the impossible or allege something that isn't actually a tort. For example, the guy who claimed that he was God and David Copperfield was usurping his divine powers in his show.
Well, it's hard to deny that the Ds and Rs have both shifted to the right, not the left.
What happens if the drone is actually a nuclear aircraft carrier re-fitted with anti-gravity propulsion reverse engineered from the Roswell crash?
We can what if all day, but it doesn't amount to anything because that's not what was done.