That's why the Finder has a Spotlight search field. If you want to use it in the Finder, use it in the Finder. If you want to just find and open a document, which most people do, most of the time, the the menu bar search is the way to go.
That reeks of justification to me - they should be essentially the same thing (obviously with the menu bar having less easily configurable restrictions due to lack of anywhere to put buttons).
If I search from the menu bar and FIND what I'm looking for (surely the main function of Spotlight) I shouldn't be limited to opening the file in the default program.
Nah I'm not new, and I'm running on dual G5s as well (3 GB RAM)
I find Spotlight (drop down menu) more snappy than the Finder search, go figure?! It's really the Finder search that I can't stand. I essentially don't use Spotlight otherwise.
I think he meant to actually index the contents, not just to have a table of contents
True, I was just suggesting a useful way to at least have some record of offline media that's easy to implement. I can't say I find meta-data searching useful all that often so it works for me.
The biggest problem with media indexing is that every time you put a CD in the drive you don't want to have to wait 10 hours while the OS takes over and indexes it.:/
I wanted to find a file named "testing" I could just type "testing" in to the name field of the search box and about five to fifteen seconds later have a list of every file that included "testing" in its name..... rather than waiting for it to return hundreds of spurious results from its file content index including 300 PDFs that all happen to contain the word testing.
I agree - and the worst part is, every time I have tried to use the searching INSIDE of pdf 'feature' of Spotlight - I can never find what I'm looking for! It seems to index words but can't find, for example, an exact title of a journal article that exists inside the pdf.
The drop-down is a shortcut to opening (most common). Just type the word and hit return.
Sure, I get that opening is probably the most common use of finding a file. But usually I want to say, add an image (or a file) to an email, or send it to a friend over IM, or something else that doesn't require opening the file. I should be able to drag the icon from the drop down menu into my email, like I could if I was looking at a finder or other program window with files listed.
and I'm not convinced anything mentioned in the article is going to make the different and make me like Spotlight.
The Spotlight UI is what needs the major overhaul - it's freaking ANNOYING and inconsistent with the Finder. If you do a spotlight search from the menu bar, items in the drop down list cannot be dragged and dropped or have their path shown. You have to go 'Show All' if you want to actually USE that image you found.
If you do go to the 'Show All' window (which doesn't appear in CMD-Tab) then you have to click the stupid huge "I" to get the path - unlike in the Finder version where it appears at the bottom of the window.
I hate the Finder search - it is so slow that even if you just want to search that directory, it feels as though it is searching the entire computer and just filtering the results. It also recursively searches without any decent feedback as to where the files it finds actually ARE (and you can't turn it off). And the worst part is - if you trash something IT STAYS IN THE SEARCH RESULTS. That really fucks me off.
It's the small details that make using Spotlight (and spotlight-as-part-of-the-finder) absolute Hell. They have better fix that sort of stuff (and the whole freaking finder....) before stupid network searching!
It feels like it displays results just for that folder (intermixed with all subfolders - URG dont get me started) but it really still takes as long as searchnig the whole computer! (I'm not convinced it doesnt still do this!)
Yeah and it's *so snappy* when you select "Search just this folder" - ie it still freaking searches the whole computer but just displays results from that folder! (or at least it takes long enough that it might as well have!)
I use flickr (I have a Yahoo login) and basically I try to pretend that Yahoo doesn't own it (I stopped bothering geotagging after about 5 photos when I realised how crap Yahoo maps are and how slow the tagging was).
I can understand why people are pissed - because they don't want to associate themselves with Yahoo. It doesn't matter that Flickr is owned by Yahoo, that's just an unhappy side effect. I for one would be happy to keep as far away from yahoo as possible. I would rather not even have my username present in the Yahoo system.
I feel the same way about google buying blogspot - I have a crappy blog I hope noone reads, but there is no way I want to merge it with my google account - (sure it's pretty easy to link the two given they have the _same username_) but like some posts above, I'd like to keep some semblance of anominity on the internet - I don't want every fucking account linked together. Sure anyone who is interested can search for my username on some other random site and see if I ahve an account, but I cringe at the thought of the day when you can't even make an account somewhere like flickr without every single other one of your internet presences being linked to it.
The ease of growing SiO2 initially made it one of the best features of the Si system which is why billions have been spent to mature the industry - they have now reached the point where the rest of the money and time invested into Si technology still makes Si processing far superior to all other materials systems (in the end, Si is cheap and they already have it all working - changing one thing is much easier than moving to a whole different material system).
I think in my post above I meant more that you can have role models who *aren't* geeky and think they are all you ever need to aspire to. People then never leave that comfort zone.
I don't think I ever had a geeky role model, but I didn't really have any strong typically-female influences like 'you will love being a housewife' or 'you should be a mum' or 'kids are great go babysit some' role model either, so I was free to get into what I was interested in. Some friends of mine have very strong gender roles assigned in their families, and I feel that that has influenced them a lot in not having an interest in science or questioning why things work or how to change them.
As a woman interested in computing/engineering/whatever I always try to encourage my female friends to take an interest, but I have the same problems - they just don't care, and they don't want to care. Even my sister who played computer games with me on our 286 for hours on end, and who would kick my ass at sega megadrive, now barely has any interest or intuition for computers at all.
There are many reasons why most women don't have any interest in computers - one, of course, is role models. Some people only act as their parents and friends do - and if they don't use or *value* computing neither does the next generation. A second problem is that I know many many women (yeah and men too) who have no interest in how things work - they often learn new things by rote rather than by thinking WHAT/WHY they are doing something rather than HOW. Thirdly (and kind of related to my first point) is that often people who choose a different field of interest get so much support and see such a complete package to their chosen area that they have no room in their life for computing or scientific thought because their world does not allow these things in, and therefore does not need them.
Computers designed by women may be more attractive to women; that will let you tap a market currently underserved and increase your customer count. That directly translates into more cash, so it matters.
I think that'd pretty simplistic - but certainly a different way of designing things can be really beneficial - especially if the way they are currently designed is based off past models.
I'd say (some) women are more likely to be able to to design things that appeal to *design-creative-artistic* types of PEOPLE. Often women in science and engineering still get exposed to/involved in many *female-creative-aesthetic* (gross over generalisation) sides of life such as clothes/makeup/jewellery etc and can bring that back to their work. A lot of guys, even in creative jobs, don't have as much experience in creative self expression.
I think this can work both ways - having been to both a private girls school and done engineering at uni (mostly guys) I can say I'd rather hang around guys all day than girls. For the most part, it's much less stress.
They have role models
I think this is a really good point - as much as I like hanging around guys I don't find it easy to use them as role models. But it is hard to find women role models because often there aren't many, and many that you do know don't have the sort of life you want for yourself.
How would you feel if all your fellow engineers suddenly got all quiet and reserved when you joined them at the bar after work? No one wants to be the buzzkill.
As a female engineer I can say this has NEVER happened to me, and I go for drinks every week where I am often the only woman.
Seriously, you would have to be pretty socially stunted as a guy OR girl to have gotten through 4 or 5 years of university without being able to hang out with other engineers of both sexes.
If anything guys at drinks may say stuff that is probably inappropriate to be talking about altogether regardless of who is around, but I've never seen anyone mind their manners. If only I could have that effect sometimes!
Worse, is that if the son has his own account already, I don't believe that he can use both authorizations simultaneously.
Wrong - I use two iTunes accounts under one user on my computer (different countries), no problems with authorisations.
However, I don't believe we can mix libraries, even on the same machine.
You have heaps of options - use the inbuilt "Sharing" feature of iTunes; point both your iTunes libraries to the same directory (change permissions on the dir so you can both rw); copy the songs into both Librarys (not sure if you would need to use two authorisations - I doubt it) - you could probably even use the iPod 'sync purchases' feature for this
Apple's iTV should also be largely media-agnostic, apart from WIndows only DRM schemes. The box should run a FrontRow like interface, and currently FrontRow can play whatever Quicktime can - including DivX, XviD, so it should be pretty damn video flexible.
Anyway, more will be revealed in about 4 hours...
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Oh Cliff, sometimes it must be difficult to feel as if, you really are a cliff... when facists keep trying to push you over it! Are they the lemmings or are you Cliff, or are you Cliff?
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Urg.
One thing stopping me from buying DVDs of TV shows are the menus (in addition to the trailers/warnings etc).
That's why the Finder has a Spotlight search field. If you want to use it in the Finder, use it in the Finder. If you want to just find and open a document, which most people do, most of the time, the the menu bar search is the way to go.
That reeks of justification to me - they should be essentially the same thing (obviously with the menu bar having less easily configurable restrictions due to lack of anywhere to put buttons).
If I search from the menu bar and FIND what I'm looking for (surely the main function of Spotlight) I shouldn't be limited to opening the file in the default program.
Nah I'm not new, and I'm running on dual G5s as well (3 GB RAM)
I find Spotlight (drop down menu) more snappy than the Finder search, go figure?! It's really the Finder search that I can't stand. I essentially don't use Spotlight otherwise.
I think he meant to actually index the contents, not just to have a table of contents
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True, I was just suggesting a useful way to at least have some record of offline media that's easy to implement. I can't say I find meta-data searching useful all that often so it works for me.
The biggest problem with media indexing is that every time you put a CD in the drive you don't want to have to wait 10 hours while the OS takes over and indexes it.
That was useful - thanks!
Pity the drop down hover takes more like 5 seconds to show the path... guess thats why I never noticed it before!
ls -R1 /Volumes/dvd-backup001/ > dvd-backup001
nice and grepable. works for me.
I wanted to find a file named "testing" I could just type "testing" in to the name field of the search box and about five to fifteen seconds later have a list of every file that included "testing" in its name. .... rather than waiting for it to return hundreds of spurious results from its file content index including 300 PDFs that all happen to contain the word testing.
I agree - and the worst part is, every time I have tried to use the searching INSIDE of pdf 'feature' of Spotlight - I can never find what I'm looking for! It seems to index words but can't find, for example, an exact title of a journal article that exists inside the pdf.
The drop-down is a shortcut to opening (most common). Just type the word and hit return.
Sure, I get that opening is probably the most common use of finding a file. But usually I want to say, add an image (or a file) to an email, or send it to a friend over IM, or something else that doesn't require opening the file. I should be able to drag the icon from the drop down menu into my email, like I could if I was looking at a finder or other program window with files listed.
and I'm not convinced anything mentioned in the article is going to make the different and make me like Spotlight.
The Spotlight UI is what needs the major overhaul - it's freaking ANNOYING and inconsistent with the Finder. If you do a spotlight search from the menu bar, items in the drop down list cannot be dragged and dropped or have their path shown. You have to go 'Show All' if you want to actually USE that image you found.
If you do go to the 'Show All' window (which doesn't appear in CMD-Tab) then you have to click the stupid huge "I" to get the path - unlike in the Finder version where it appears at the bottom of the window.
I hate the Finder search - it is so slow that even if you just want to search that directory, it feels as though it is searching the entire computer and just filtering the results. It also recursively searches without any decent feedback as to where the files it finds actually ARE (and you can't turn it off). And the worst part is - if you trash something IT STAYS IN THE SEARCH RESULTS. That really fucks me off.
It's the small details that make using Spotlight (and spotlight-as-part-of-the-finder) absolute Hell. They have better fix that sort of stuff (and the whole freaking finder....) before stupid network searching!
It feels like it displays results just for that folder (intermixed with all subfolders - URG dont get me started) but it really still takes as long as searchnig the whole computer! (I'm not convinced it doesnt still do this!)
Yeah and it's *so snappy* when you select "Search just this folder" - ie it still freaking searches the whole computer but just displays results from that folder! (or at least it takes long enough that it might as well have!)
Face it, people just hate Yahoo.
I use flickr (I have a Yahoo login) and basically I try to pretend that Yahoo doesn't own it (I stopped bothering geotagging after about 5 photos when I realised how crap Yahoo maps are and how slow the tagging was).
I can understand why people are pissed - because they don't want to associate themselves with Yahoo. It doesn't matter that Flickr is owned by Yahoo, that's just an unhappy side effect. I for one would be happy to keep as far away from yahoo as possible. I would rather not even have my username present in the Yahoo system.
I feel the same way about google buying blogspot - I have a crappy blog I hope noone reads, but there is no way I want to merge it with my google account - (sure it's pretty easy to link the two given they have the _same username_) but like some posts above, I'd like to keep some semblance of anominity on the internet - I don't want every fucking account linked together. Sure anyone who is interested can search for my username on some other random site and see if I ahve an account, but I cringe at the thought of the day when you can't even make an account somewhere like flickr without every single other one of your internet presences being linked to it.
Any coincidence that UCSB is one of the biggest researchers of GaN and GaN-based devices eg white LEDs?
I think it's a great way to inject money into LED fabrication and technology and push their price down.
The ease of growing SiO2 initially made it one of the best features of the Si system which is why billions have been spent to mature the industry - they have now reached the point where the rest of the money and time invested into Si technology still makes Si processing far superior to all other materials systems (in the end, Si is cheap and they already have it all working - changing one thing is much easier than moving to a whole different material system).
It doesn't show the Aussie dollar is overrated - it shows that we are getting jibbed on the price of nanos!
I think in my post above I meant more that you can have role models who *aren't* geeky and think they are all you ever need to aspire to. People then never leave that comfort zone.
I don't think I ever had a geeky role model, but I didn't really have any strong typically-female influences like 'you will love being a housewife' or 'you should be a mum' or 'kids are great go babysit some' role model either, so I was free to get into what I was interested in. Some friends of mine have very strong gender roles assigned in their families, and I feel that that has influenced them a lot in not having an interest in science or questioning why things work or how to change them.
As a woman interested in computing/engineering/whatever I always try to encourage my female friends to take an interest, but I have the same problems - they just don't care, and they don't want to care. Even my sister who played computer games with me on our 286 for hours on end, and who would kick my ass at sega megadrive, now barely has any interest or intuition for computers at all.
There are many reasons why most women don't have any interest in computers - one, of course, is role models. Some people only act as their parents and friends do - and if they don't use or *value* computing neither does the next generation. A second problem is that I know many many women (yeah and men too) who have no interest in how things work - they often learn new things by rote rather than by thinking WHAT/WHY they are doing something rather than HOW. Thirdly (and kind of related to my first point) is that often people who choose a different field of interest get so much support and see such a complete package to their chosen area that they have no room in their life for computing or scientific thought because their world does not allow these things in, and therefore does not need them.
Computers designed by women may be more attractive to women; that will let you tap a market currently underserved and increase your customer count. That directly translates into more cash, so it matters.
I think that'd pretty simplistic - but certainly a different way of designing things can be really beneficial - especially if the way they are currently designed is based off past models.
I'd say (some) women are more likely to be able to to design things that appeal to *design-creative-artistic* types of PEOPLE. Often women in science and engineering still get exposed to/involved in many *female-creative-aesthetic* (gross over generalisation) sides of life such as clothes/makeup/jewellery etc and can bring that back to their work. A lot of guys, even in creative jobs, don't have as much experience in creative self expression.
>What advantages do men have that women dont?
They have the comfort of being in a majority.
I think this can work both ways - having been to both a private girls school and done engineering at uni (mostly guys) I can say I'd rather hang around guys all day than girls. For the most part, it's much less stress.
They have role models
I think this is a really good point - as much as I like hanging around guys I don't find it easy to use them as role models. But it is hard to find women role models because often there aren't many, and many that you do know don't have the sort of life you want for yourself.
How would you feel if all your fellow engineers suddenly got all quiet and reserved when you joined them at the bar after work? No one wants to be the buzzkill.
As a female engineer I can say this has NEVER happened to me, and I go for drinks every week where I am often the only woman.
Seriously, you would have to be pretty socially stunted as a guy OR girl to have gotten through 4 or 5 years of university without being able to hang out with other engineers of both sexes.
If anything guys at drinks may say stuff that is probably inappropriate to be talking about altogether regardless of who is around, but I've never seen anyone mind their manners. If only I could have that effect sometimes!
Worse, is that if the son has his own account already, I don't believe that he can use both authorizations simultaneously.
Wrong - I use two iTunes accounts under one user on my computer (different countries), no problems with authorisations.
However, I don't believe we can mix libraries, even on the same machine.
You have heaps of options -
use the inbuilt "Sharing" feature of iTunes;
point both your iTunes libraries to the same directory (change permissions on the dir so you can both rw);
copy the songs into both Librarys (not sure if you would need to use two authorisations - I doubt it) - you could probably even use the iPod 'sync purchases' feature for this
The native Mac version of any Quicken product is only available in the US localisation - no good, for example, for Australian accounting for GST.
Apple's iTV should also be largely media-agnostic, apart from WIndows only DRM schemes. The box should run a FrontRow like interface, and currently FrontRow can play whatever Quicktime can - including DivX, XviD, so it should be pretty damn video flexible.
Anyway, more will be revealed in about 4 hours...
and Windows-only computer science newbies get stung in emacs when "undo" Ctrl-Z doesn't turn out as they expect, especially after trying to cut something...
Oh Cliff, sometimes it must be difficult to feel as if, you really are a cliff... when facists keep trying to push you over it! Are they the lemmings or are you Cliff, or are you Cliff?