You say "If they did it right the (non-geek) end user won't know that they're using Linux.
At least not until it's too late.:-)
Is this really the only way that Linux can get into the consumer market? By not actually being Linux?
What would you mean by "At least not until it's too late.:-)" anyway? Do we really think that users would rather cut their own head off before they use a Linux apliance?
There seems to be a trend here, and maybe the people who seriously believe that Linux is a threat to Microsoft on the desktop should take notice here. People won't use Linux as it is, and wouldn't want to use Linux as it is, unless some serious changes are made.
The reason that people are willing to overlook these gapping plot holes is beacause it's a god damn movie!
People watch a movie so that they are entertained for a couple of hours. That's all. If the plot is sufficently well thought out, and the acting good enough then people will overlook the loose ends in the plot because they are simply entertained by the movie.
I feel sorry for someone who goes to see a film, and then complains about "gaping plot holes" that are in reality insignificant (Like the internal wounds and blood coughing). That sort of thing adds a little to the overall scene, but as it isn't used at all after that one scene, and certainly isn't used as a pivitol plot point in the film, whats the harm in it?
Emulation of a SID just doesn't cut it. IIRC SID's used a mixed analogue/digital design that gave it that unique sound that it has. Emulation & chips like the EMU10k have a hard time doing the analogue stuff without it sounding weird. The very best way to get SID sound, is to use a SID.
Why they can't just build more though, is another question.
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Yeah, I agree.
Last week when my friend broke his arm, he did a few miles on a treadmile, and nows he's back playing Squash!
I'm poping in at lunchtime to get this genetic heart disorder fixed. I reckon 10 Miles on the cycle should do it.
Excuse me for breaking into the screaming and hyterics and all, but whats so bad about CPRM?
From what I understand, CPRM relies on not just a CPRM compliant drive, but also CPRM compliant software & CPRM compliant data. All CPRM does is allow CPRM data to be stored on a CPRM area of a CPRM protected hard drive with CPRM software.
Now, this doesn't actually stop anyone using the non-CPRM portion of the drive. In fact, the non-CPRM section of the drive operates as a normal harddrive. It doesn't stop me storing my MP3's that I downloaded from Napster, or that DivX;-) I leeched from Usenet. In short, it doesn't stop me doing anything I do now.
It seems that CPRM is the only way that these companies are ever going to accept the Internet as a viable distribution channel for their movies, music etc. Thats not to say that when CPRM becomes a standard, that people will stop trading non-CPRM media the same way they did before by ripping the CD, DVD etc.
So surely, if CPRM means that we can finally download those films & MP3's legitimatly, thats got to be a good thing? Those who still want to pirate their stuff can do so, CPRM doesn't stop them using the old piracy methods. The only possible downside to this is that 4C may exclude Open Source from implementing CPRM, but then surely they want CPRM to be accepted industry wide, so why would they do that?
Really, my question is, why are you so against CPRM? What does it stop us from doing that we don't do already, & why6 can't we just ignore it?
That seems to be what he is doing: Scouting vendors to see what sort of deal he can get. If he can get an Open Source (OR i'd assume, just Free Beer) Billing Solution that fits his needs, then that is going to be the best deal he can get.
I do agree though, that he should have considered the need for a billing system and factored that into his budget in case he couldn't find an Open Source or Free billing system.
As Billing Software is a very specialised peice of software, it is very expensive, and I doubt that the guy has the money to buy a system unless he is a medium-large company with lots of budget to spend.
So in this case it seems that the guy is going with Open Source Software for the very reason that he cannot afford the commercial software. One of your very bullet points.
Starbucks & Microsoft team up together, and produce a bastard evil offspring intent on taking over the entire world with bad coffee & bad software.
What next, AOL Time Warner merge with Microsoft Starbucks, and do battle against Pepsi Exon Coca Cola, while us little people cower in fear and dodge peices of sky scraper that are falling from the skys as the evil corporations Mega-Money-Rights-Stomping-Robots do battle in the cities (Especially Tokyo; robots always do battle in the streets of Tokyo).
I feel a film coming on. Warner Fox Disney Corp. would love it....
God damnit, yeah. Powerplants were so expensive that you never had enough cash for them after 50 years, especially in the first 100 years or so. That always used to screw me up.:/
What was the cheat to get free cash though in Sim City 2000? I used to know this one...
Oh geez, i know what you mean. I have a habit of having great ideas or solving a problem just before I get to sleep. I have to leap out of bed and try to write down two or three pages of ideas as quickly as possible before I forget the details.
Thankfully (Or not), this doesn't happen too often. Having writers cramp every night & a headache in the morning when I try to read what I wrote the night before would get tedious;D
t can also pipe to the Windows AVI system, where you can pick from any AVI codec you have installed (like DivX, or Indeo, or whatever).
No MPEG-4 support.
Um, if i have an MPEG-4 CODEC installed, then it can use that. You even say so yourself, as DivX;-) is an MPEG-4 (Alike) CODEC. The AVI file format is just that, a file format. It doesn't specify the encoding scheme used.
I'm behind a firewall on a VPN, please explain to me how this causes my Windows SSH client to be any less secure against this form of attack than any other? No? I didn't think you could.
Thankfully, i'm not in France. If i were, this wouldn't worry me unduly; all i would have to do is purchase my R1 DVD's from an off-shore seller who sends them to me via. the normal postage system.
Play247 already do this sort of thing for the U.K. Not that it is illegal to sell R1 DVD's in the U.K, but being based in the Channel Isle's aparently makes it easier for them to secure R1 DVD's from the U.S. They get around import restrictions by sending each order in a seperate jiffy bag, and not selling the goods for more than £18 each (Good over £18 are taxable on import).
There is no reason why Play247 couldn't offer the same service to our French friends over there. The only thing this law will do in France is to harm DVD sales.
What, prey tell, is wrong with "Windows ssh clients"? I'm behind a corporate firewall and use an ssh client to connect to a server outside of the network. How is that any less secure than connecting to the server using a Linux or BSD ssh client?
Just to stick my oar in on this one, maybe the people who are advocating Amiga, QNX & Linux should take a look at AtheOS.
Ignore the Amiga style windows decorations it has at the moment, what should be more interesting is the following:
It's Open Source. Shares that in common with Linux, so neither has that advantage over the other
It also has a 64 Bit Journaled Filesystem, and will have file Attributes. Exactly the same as BeOS (Although it is not BFS, natch)
It is actually fairly small. Certainly smaller than Linux, BeOS etc. Can't compare it to BeAI though, they're two diferent things
It has great potential as a "Media OS" as well. It doesn't use X for a start, which is always a good thing if you want to do things like video...
It's just cool.
O.K, it may have less applications than BeOS now, but there is no reason why AtheOS can't find itself finding market share not just on the desktop, but also the embeded market, in the future.
This is all IMHO of course, but it does have most of the advantages being touted here.
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You say "If they did it right the (non-geek) end user won't know that they're using Linux.
:-)
:-)" anyway? Do we really think that users would rather cut their own head off before they use a Linux apliance?
At least not until it's too late.
Is this really the only way that Linux can get into the consumer market? By not actually being Linux?
What would you mean by "At least not until it's too late.
There seems to be a trend here, and maybe the people who seriously believe that Linux is a threat to Microsoft on the desktop should take notice here. People won't use Linux as it is, and wouldn't want to use Linux as it is, unless some serious changes are made.
The reason that people are willing to overlook these gapping plot holes is beacause it's a god damn movie!
People watch a movie so that they are entertained for a couple of hours. That's all. If the plot is sufficently well thought out, and the acting good enough then people will overlook the loose ends in the plot because they are simply entertained by the movie.
I feel sorry for someone who goes to see a film, and then complains about "gaping plot holes" that are in reality insignificant (Like the internal wounds and blood coughing). That sort of thing adds a little to the overall scene, but as it isn't used at all after that one scene, and certainly isn't used as a pivitol plot point in the film, whats the harm in it?
Just lighten up, please. It's only a movie!
He compares OOP to Communism for Christs-Sake!
The guy just doesn't seem to grok OOP in any meaningful way, and seems to have some serious issues with software development practices overall.
Maybe the guy used to date a Software Manager who liked OOP?
Emulation of a SID just doesn't cut it. IIRC SID's used a mixed analogue/digital design that gave it that unique sound that it has. Emulation & chips like the EMU10k have a hard time doing the analogue stuff without it sounding weird. The very best way to get SID sound, is to use a SID.
Why they can't just build more though, is another question.
Yeah, I agree.
Last week when my friend broke his arm, he did a few miles on a treadmile, and nows he's back playing Squash!
I'm poping in at lunchtime to get this genetic heart disorder fixed. I reckon 10 Miles on the cycle should do it.
Very good point. Has anyone pointed out to 4C that CPRM could cause a user in the UK to be in breach of our Oh-So-Wonderful RIP law?
"Sorry Mr. Judge, I cannot supply the data that was on the drive, as it is CPRM compliant and I do not have the keys to decrypt it any more."
Excuse me for breaking into the screaming and hyterics and all, but whats so bad about CPRM?
From what I understand, CPRM relies on not just a CPRM compliant drive, but also CPRM compliant software & CPRM compliant data. All CPRM does is allow CPRM data to be stored on a CPRM area of a CPRM protected hard drive with CPRM software.
Now, this doesn't actually stop anyone using the non-CPRM portion of the drive. In fact, the non-CPRM section of the drive operates as a normal harddrive. It doesn't stop me storing my MP3's that I downloaded from Napster, or that DivX;-) I leeched from Usenet. In short, it doesn't stop me doing anything I do now.
It seems that CPRM is the only way that these companies are ever going to accept the Internet as a viable distribution channel for their movies, music etc. Thats not to say that when CPRM becomes a standard, that people will stop trading non-CPRM media the same way they did before by ripping the CD, DVD etc.
So surely, if CPRM means that we can finally download those films & MP3's legitimatly, thats got to be a good thing? Those who still want to pirate their stuff can do so, CPRM doesn't stop them using the old piracy methods. The only possible downside to this is that 4C may exclude Open Source from implementing CPRM, but then surely they want CPRM to be accepted industry wide, so why would they do that?
Really, my question is, why are you so against CPRM? What does it stop us from doing that we don't do already, & why6 can't we just ignore it?
That seems to be what he is doing: Scouting vendors to see what sort of deal he can get. If he can get an Open Source (OR i'd assume, just Free Beer) Billing Solution that fits his needs, then that is going to be the best deal he can get.
I do agree though, that he should have considered the need for a billing system and factored that into his budget in case he couldn't find an Open Source or Free billing system.
As Billing Software is a very specialised peice of software, it is very expensive, and I doubt that the guy has the money to buy a system unless he is a medium-large company with lots of budget to spend.
So in this case it seems that the guy is going with Open Source Software for the very reason that he cannot afford the commercial software. One of your very bullet points.
Damm yeah. TV, monitors & flouresent lights. Sitting in an office makes it seem like i have tinitus.
:(
I used to have to unplug everything at night, as leaving it on standby would still leave the transformer buzz going.
People who don't want to waste electricty when not using their computer, and people who do not want to listen to PSU fans whiring away at night.
People like me, in fact.
Starbucks & Microsoft team up together, and produce a bastard evil offspring intent on taking over the entire world with bad coffee & bad software.
What next, AOL Time Warner merge with Microsoft Starbucks, and do battle against Pepsi Exon Coca Cola, while us little people cower in fear and dodge peices of sky scraper that are falling from the skys as the evil corporations Mega-Money-Rights-Stomping-Robots do battle in the cities (Especially Tokyo; robots always do battle in the streets of Tokyo).
I feel a film coming on. Warner Fox Disney Corp. would love it....
Let me get this right. Canada has tight gun control laws. You don't hear of a Gun problem in Canada. You wonder why this is?
Maybe Canada doesn't have a Gun problem because of the fact they don't have Guns to have a problem with?
God damnit, yeah. Powerplants were so expensive that you never had enough cash for them after 50 years, especially in the first 100 years or so. That always used to screw me up. :/
What was the cheat to get free cash though in Sim City 2000? I used to know this one...
Oh look, another chance for me to plug AtheOS;)
;)
Come on, more kernel/device driver coders needed. IDE, ISO9660 & PPP support would be nice if anyone who has the knowledge & time would be willing
can't keep up with my thoughts...
;D
Oh geez, i know what you mean. I have a habit of having great ideas or solving a problem just before I get to sleep. I have to leap out of bed and try to write down two or three pages of ideas as quickly as possible before I forget the details.
Thankfully (Or not), this doesn't happen too often. Having writers cramp every night & a headache in the morning when I try to read what I wrote the night before would get tedious
- Still not made it to version 2.4 of the kernel
- Seen some amazing infighting between [Gnome & Kde | Mozilla lovers & Mozilla Haters | Everyone else]
- Still not become much easier to use, dispite promises to the contrary by [Redhat | SuSe | Corel | Linus | Alan Cox | Everyone ]
- Gained market share. Well, we think it has. We're still trying to count everyone...
- Gained some really great software. At least, it will once it gets out of [beta | alpha | pre-alpha | planing | the mailing list ]
Wow. What a year! Just wait until next year, when, um, all the above may still apply actually...Note for humour impaired. This is a joke! Well, some of it may have a point, but thats for you to decide
I've always wanted to write my own OS, starting from the WinNT or MacOS perspective...think simple. Maybe its time I put more effort into it...
Why Sir, may i suggest AtheOS It's like Linux but without all the bagage (Including no X! Yay!). Honestly, check it out.
t can also pipe to the Windows AVI system, where you can pick from any AVI codec you have installed (like DivX, or Indeo, or whatever).
No MPEG-4 support.
Um, if i have an MPEG-4 CODEC installed, then it can use that. You even say so yourself, as DivX;-) is an MPEG-4 (Alike) CODEC. The AVI file format is just that, a file format. It doesn't specify the encoding scheme used.
I'm behind a firewall on a VPN, please explain to me how this causes my Windows SSH client to be any less secure against this form of attack than any other? No? I didn't think you could.
Ah, I knew there was a better reason for Play247 being based in the Channel Isles, and thats it. Thanks for clearing that up. :D
Thankfully, i'm not in France. If i were, this wouldn't worry me unduly; all i would have to do is purchase my R1 DVD's from an off-shore seller who sends them to me via. the normal postage system.
Play247 already do this sort of thing for the U.K. Not that it is illegal to sell R1 DVD's in the U.K, but being based in the Channel Isle's aparently makes it easier for them to secure R1 DVD's from the U.S. They get around import restrictions by sending each order in a seperate jiffy bag, and not selling the goods for more than £18 each (Good over £18 are taxable on import).
There is no reason why Play247 couldn't offer the same service to our French friends over there. The only thing this law will do in France is to harm DVD sales.
What, prey tell, is wrong with "Windows ssh clients"? I'm behind a corporate firewall and use an ssh client to connect to a server outside of the network. How is that any less secure than connecting to the server using a Linux or BSD ssh client?
I heard you had a rather large lawyers bill to pay though, and no cash. Still, i'm glad you put your new patent to good use.
Ignore the Amiga style windows decorations it has at the moment, what should be more interesting is the following:
- It's Open Source. Shares that in common with Linux, so neither has that advantage over the other
- It also has a 64 Bit Journaled Filesystem, and will have file Attributes. Exactly the same as BeOS (Although it is not BFS, natch)
- It is actually fairly small. Certainly smaller than Linux, BeOS etc. Can't compare it to BeAI though, they're two diferent things
- It has great potential as a "Media OS" as well. It doesn't use X for a start, which is always a good thing if you want to do things like video...
- It's just cool.
O.K, it may have less applications than BeOS now, but there is no reason why AtheOS can't find itself finding market share not just on the desktop, but also the embeded market, in the future.This is all IMHO of course, but it does have most of the advantages being touted here.