Interesting idea. How would it work out? Would the jocks pretend to be geeks to be cool, but still go around beating up geeks?
Will teenagers who want to be diferent, drop out of school, and work at McDonalds? Will we see fine restaruants selling Pizza and Jolt? Street gangs fighting about which is best, Perl or Python?
This is begining to sound like a perticular episode of "Sliders" actually:)
Too true. Do you know, i've just recently conducted a study that shows that 21 year old males who sit by a window on the 5th floor of a building will sit all day and read Slashdot. Amazing.
Of course, my data is limited, but the fact there is a corelation between siting on the fifth floor by a window and reading Slashdot menas it must be true.
Damnit, i post as an AC because i think it'll get moderated down, and it gains 4 points! Now this one will get moderated down because it's OT and redundunt. Whats a Karma whore to do?;)
Yeah, i havn't bothered to upgrade my kernel either (Outside of changing to a newer distro), but i think it's time for me to compile 2.4. Most of the bugs in the todo list don't seem that serious (for me), the Tulip NIC problem is the only one that might cause problems. And hey, there are bugs in 2.2.x as well...
If it wasn't for the new/dev stuff, USB and a few other smaller changes, i wouldn't bother either though.
The Win9x GUI is one of two things Microsoft managed to get right (Word97 being the second), and at the time it was revolutionary.
But, it's still based on the work done by Xerox in the 70's, as are all desktop systems. Obviously coming up with a new way to interact with a computer isn't such an easy task.
Maybe with technology such as voice recognition (Who needs a GUI when there's no mouse?), or even 3D Graphics & VR (How about a 3D desktop that you can navigate on the Z axis as well? A wheelmouse could do that...). Direct nueral interfaces (Hitch Hikers GTT Galaxy has an interesting concept)...the list goes on.
As long as we are stuck with archaic typing and pointing devices to interact with our computers, we'll be stuck with the desktop IMHO.
I have never read the bible, nor do i believe a word of it. Your argument holds no weight for me there.
therefore you, knowingly or not, worship Satan. You are immoral.
I should take this personally. But i won't. Because a) I don't believe in Satan, so why should that worry me in the slightest? b) If i am a glowing example of a Satan worshiper, i think there should be more of us in the world.
Christians have an obligation to set right the wrongs of the world
Translation "I am better than you. I shall stick my nose into other peoples business and tell them what to do. I do not beleive in individuality."
and if this leads to violence
Yeah, violence is great in the name of God, perfectly alright. Oh, doesn't the Bible say something about "Love thy neighbour", or are you allowed to ignore that bit if it suits you?
Not really, because you seem to have based your argument on presumption, imagination, a limited experience with programers, and of course the notion that !Christian==Imoral.
I'm an atheist, and i am certain i am not imoral. I don't steal, cheat, engage in violence, i love my mother and the rest of my family etc. etc.
By all means, practise a religion. Just don't tell me i am wrong because i don't practise your religion too. That way do wars lie.
O.K, so even if one of the jurors did read the website, i'm sure the court could have found a replacement. After all, if a US court could manage to find an entire jury for the OJ Simpson trial, i'm sure it would have been many orders of magnitude easier to find a jury who hadn't even heard of the website.
Reporting crime in the media is nothing new at all, it just seems that the court took a knee-jerk action because the details were on the internet this time.
Yeah! Then we can link all of our cyber kids into a huge "collective", which will be good until they become sentinant and launch the nuclear missles at the enemy and start WW3. Of course they won't do that unless we give them one meeeelion dollars....
I could do this all day, films are so formulaic these days...;)
Nooo! That's the worst thing we could do. What do you think Microsoft would like everyone to believe? That Windows is "the universal OS".
If it ever looks as though OS'es are gravitating to much towards "one true way" of doing things, i shall quickly write my own Operating System that does it a diferent way.
I think i get your intention, but you should do some more reasearch on OS design first. Some of the things you mention have been tried in the past (Such as no directory structure), and have been discounted as either unworkable, or damn horrible.
I agree that, yes, you should try to always think "outside the box", but low level design of an OS has been researched very heavily in the past, by a lot of people who are much, much more clever than you or i. We know that users are comfortable with certain things, i.e the desktop on the screen euthenism, "files" in a "drawer". We know it works too.
Theres nothing wrong with trying something new, but if you see something that works, theres no shame in taking the idea and using it yourself.
Although i've not had a chance to try AltheOS yet (I've had the binaries for weeks, but can't get it to boot), there probably is no start menu/task launcher etc.
This is a guess, but as the UI is very obviously Amiga influenced, it may be that the high level navigation is achieved in an Amiga-like way, where your desktop is essentially a file manager, and you navigate through the actual directory structure to get to an executable. If you want, you can drag an executable's icon onto the desktop to create a shortcut.
It's not an ideal way of doing things, but it's one of the more inovative aspects of the Amiga desktop.
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Who wouldn't copy BSD and/or linux components...when writing a new OS?
People who want to learn the process of OS design and implentation, also people who don't simply want to create another *BSD/Linux clone. Honestly, there are a lot of them out there (I know of at least two other OS projects, and one i'm working on in my own time).
If all you want is an OS, yes you can copy the code without really understanding it. But if you want to understand the low level hardware design and the way the OS interacts with it, writing from scratch is the only way to go.
Pfft, you're not even trying. Ask someone who's compiled the 2.0 series kernel on an the minimum spec Amiga (That Linux will run on) Mmmm, Motorola 68030, at 25Mhz. Now thats slow.
Suer, i await the time when all press releases simply say "New hardware, faster, more expensive, fancy new production process. Linux, XML, WAP, Internet, WWW, Open Source, multimedia, next generation. You want one."
It's sure to be a winner, it's got all the buzzwords.
Actualy, yes, you are. Kiddie porn is illegal, therefore the people who want to distribute those kinds of pictures are not free to do so. Therefore, a law banning kiddie porn has restricted the Freedom of certain individuals.
The thing is, modern society will accept laws that may in one way or another restrict their freedom, in order to control a smaller minority who may be a threat to the majority. Placing people in prison is another example, you remove certain peoples rights from them in order to protect the rights of the majority.
Note for the knee-jerkers: I am not condoning kiddie porn.
And don't even think about sending that email with an attachment. In fact, don't even think about sending that email at all. It may be possible to re-arrange that message into a binary file that actually contains the first second of an a commercial MP3!
I mean, honestly, where would the modern internet be if we suddenly started allowing people to send data to each other?! Won't somebody think of the children!
LOL, thanks Mr Moderator, thats the first -1 (Troll) i've ever had. FYIY, Godwins law basically states (Among other things), that as soon as anyone compares an individual or group of people to Nazi's (Or Hitler in this case), whichever party made the comparision looses the argument and the discusion is over. Hey, look what the guy did...
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Someone posting an off-topic "What we'll see in this thread" comment.
Interesting idea. How would it work out? Would the jocks pretend to be geeks to be cool, but still go around beating up geeks?
:)
Will teenagers who want to be diferent, drop out of school, and work at McDonalds? Will we see fine restaruants selling Pizza and Jolt? Street gangs fighting about which is best, Perl or Python?
This is begining to sound like a perticular episode of "Sliders" actually
Too true. Do you know, i've just recently conducted a study that shows that 21 year old males who sit by a window on the 5th floor of a building will sit all day and read Slashdot. Amazing.
Of course, my data is limited, but the fact there is a corelation between siting on the fifth floor by a window and reading Slashdot menas it must be true.
Damnit, i post as an AC because i think it'll get moderated down, and it gains 4 points! Now this one will get moderated down because it's OT and redundunt. Whats a Karma whore to do? ;)
Yeah, i havn't bothered to upgrade my kernel either (Outside of changing to a newer distro), but i think it's time for me to compile 2.4. Most of the bugs in the todo list don't seem that serious (for me), the Tulip NIC problem is the only one that might cause problems. And hey, there are bugs in 2.2.x as well...
/dev stuff, USB and a few other smaller changes, i wouldn't bother either though.
If it wasn't for the new
The Win9x GUI is one of two things Microsoft managed to get right (Word97 being the second), and at the time it was revolutionary.
But, it's still based on the work done by Xerox in the 70's, as are all desktop systems. Obviously coming up with a new way to interact with a computer isn't such an easy task.
Maybe with technology such as voice recognition (Who needs a GUI when there's no mouse?), or even 3D Graphics & VR (How about a 3D desktop that you can navigate on the Z axis as well? A wheelmouse could do that...). Direct nueral interfaces (Hitch Hikers GTT Galaxy has an interesting concept)...the list goes on.
As long as we are stuck with archaic typing and pointing devices to interact with our computers, we'll be stuck with the desktop IMHO.
O.K, you've got to be Trolling now.
This is fact, as substantiated in the Bible.
I have never read the bible, nor do i believe a word of it. Your argument holds no weight for me there.
therefore you, knowingly or not, worship Satan. You are immoral.
I should take this personally. But i won't. Because a) I don't believe in Satan, so why should that worry me in the slightest? b) If i am a glowing example of a Satan worshiper, i think there should be more of us in the world.
Christians have an obligation to set right the wrongs of the world
Translation "I am better than you. I shall stick my nose into other peoples business and tell them what to do. I do not beleive in individuality."
and if this leads to violence
Yeah, violence is great in the name of God, perfectly alright. Oh, doesn't the Bible say something about "Love thy neighbour", or are you allowed to ignore that bit if it suits you?
Turning your argument on it's head, what right does a Christian have to decide if say, a Muslim, a Jew, an atheist etc. has commited a crime?
Does that answer your question?
Not really, because you seem to have based your argument on presumption, imagination, a limited experience with programers, and of course the notion that !Christian==Imoral.
I'm an atheist, and i am certain i am not imoral. I don't steal, cheat, engage in violence, i love my mother and the rest of my family etc. etc.
By all means, practise a religion. Just don't tell me i am wrong because i don't practise your religion too. That way do wars lie.
Ignoring the obvious possibility of flaming you until you go away and stop telling me i am immoral, i shall again ask the question:
How did you arrive at the conclusion that (paraphrased) many programers are imoral?
I can almost guarantee you that the farmhand has had a more moral upbringing and goes to Church more than the programmer
Sorry? Are you implying that programers and people who don't go to Church are immoral? I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion.
O.K, so even if one of the jurors did read the website, i'm sure the court could have found a replacement. After all, if a US court could manage to find an entire jury for the OJ Simpson trial, i'm sure it would have been many orders of magnitude easier to find a jury who hadn't even heard of the website.
Reporting crime in the media is nothing new at all, it just seems that the court took a knee-jerk action because the details were on the internet this time.
Yeah! Then we can link all of our cyber kids into a huge "collective", which will be good until they become sentinant and launch the nuclear missles at the enemy and start WW3. Of course they won't do that unless we give them one meeeelion dollars....
I could do this all day, films are so formulaic these days...;)
we need to work toward the universal OS.
Nooo! That's the worst thing we could do. What do you think Microsoft would like everyone to believe? That Windows is "the universal OS".
If it ever looks as though OS'es are gravitating to much towards "one true way" of doing things, i shall quickly write my own Operating System that does it a diferent way.
Choice is good, "one true way" is bad.
I think i get your intention, but you should do some more reasearch on OS design first. Some of the things you mention have been tried in the past (Such as no directory structure), and have been discounted as either unworkable, or damn horrible.
I agree that, yes, you should try to always think "outside the box", but low level design of an OS has been researched very heavily in the past, by a lot of people who are much, much more clever than you or i. We know that users are comfortable with certain things, i.e the desktop on the screen euthenism, "files" in a "drawer". We know it works too.
Theres nothing wrong with trying something new, but if you see something that works, theres no shame in taking the idea and using it yourself.
Although i've not had a chance to try AltheOS yet (I've had the binaries for weeks, but can't get it to boot), there probably is no start menu/task launcher etc.
This is a guess, but as the UI is very obviously Amiga influenced, it may be that the high level navigation is achieved in an Amiga-like way, where your desktop is essentially a file manager, and you navigate through the actual directory structure to get to an executable. If you want, you can drag an executable's icon onto the desktop to create a shortcut.
It's not an ideal way of doing things, but it's one of the more inovative aspects of the Amiga desktop.
Who wouldn't copy BSD and/or linux components...when writing a new OS?
People who want to learn the process of OS design and implentation, also people who don't simply want to create another *BSD/Linux clone. Honestly, there are a lot of them out there (I know of at least two other OS projects, and one i'm working on in my own time).
If all you want is an OS, yes you can copy the code without really understanding it. But if you want to understand the low level hardware design and the way the OS interacts with it, writing from scratch is the only way to go.
Pfft, you're not even trying. Ask someone who's compiled the 2.0 series kernel on an the minimum spec Amiga (That Linux will run on) Mmmm, Motorola 68030, at 25Mhz. Now thats slow.
Suer, i await the time when all press releases simply say "New hardware, faster, more expensive, fancy new production process. Linux, XML, WAP, Internet, WWW, Open Source, multimedia, next generation. You want one."
It's sure to be a winner, it's got all the buzzwords.
otherwise we are attacking their freedom.
Actualy, yes, you are. Kiddie porn is illegal, therefore the people who want to distribute those kinds of pictures are not free to do so. Therefore, a law banning kiddie porn has restricted the Freedom of certain individuals.
The thing is, modern society will accept laws that may in one way or another restrict their freedom, in order to control a smaller minority who may be a threat to the majority. Placing people in prison is another example, you remove certain peoples rights from them in order to protect the rights of the majority.
Note for the knee-jerkers: I am not condoning kiddie porn.
Ah yes, now that could be it. Havn't read the H2G2 trilogy for a while now, but i darn't bend the spines on the first-print collection i have ;)
"Any person who actually wants to be a politician should be automatically excluded from the job"
Not an exact quote, and i can't remember who, but i think that sums it up nicely.
And don't even think about sending that email with an attachment. In fact, don't even think about sending that email at all. It may be possible to re-arrange that message into a binary file that actually contains the first second of an a commercial MP3!
I mean, honestly, where would the modern internet be if we suddenly started allowing people to send data to each other?! Won't somebody think of the children!
LOL, thanks Mr Moderator, thats the first -1 (Troll) i've ever had. FYIY, Godwins law basically states (Among other things), that as soon as anyone compares an individual or group of people to Nazi's (Or Hitler in this case), whichever party made the comparision looses the argument and the discusion is over. Hey, look what the guy did...