I think some folks might be missing something here.
Many talk of "source code download size" or "binary file size."
You can't compare downloading the source to the Gimp along with GTK to a binary that Paul is distributing. That's apples and oranges folks.
As for binary size, my copy of Gimp v1.1.19 is 1.7MB in size, properly stripped down. Did you ever try a "strip --strip-all" on a compiled binary? Amazing, how much it shrinks when you remove debugging symbols and such.;>
Sure, absolutely - now your getting an authoring tool, that makes sense to charge for it. The conversion stuff is nice also.
I'm not at all against paying for authoring or development environments and such. By all means.
But simple players - that should remain free. It's like the old addage, "give away the razor and sell the blades" as it were.
My only complaint is that there's no Linux version, that's all. I like the QT format, personally. It's just a PITA that I can't view them whilst browsing...
On a side note, upgrading Netscape broke "plugger" and Netscape no longer shows.png files properly. Anyone have ideas out there? I'd rather not put xv in as a helper app - that would display the picture outside of the browser.
I agree with you on the technical use of "market share."
However, I for one wouldn't pay for a player either. No one should. An encoder I can see, but a player? Not on your life.
Why should someone pay for a player to view QT? I'd just as soon use MPEG or even AVI before I did that. I'm not being a cheap slashdork user, I'm being realistic.
If you want people to use your CODEC or technology, you need to make it easy and painless for your audience; take a look at Flash and Shockwave. Free plugins.
So in that respect, you gain market share or dominance over your competition. Technical merits aside, product A could kick ass and cost money, but if B is almost as good and free, guess who wins?
Agreed, Apple really does need to release a player, if nothing else. I refuse to boot into Windows or go to a Mac just to view a Quicktime video. Instead, I just mutter, "damned QT" and move on... NOT a way to gain market share.;>
Maybe on the Intel front... But then Sun never really put much stock in x86 Solaris. I wouldn't use x86 Solaris unless it was the last choice - I'd run Linux for that. Get a cheap Sparc and run Solaris on that.
LONDON (Reuters) - A teenager arrested in Wales for allegedly hacking into e-commerce Web sites had obtained the credit card details of Bill Gates, head of Microsoft and the world's richest man, newspapers said on Sunday.
I hope they're not using it to power the site...
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One of the biggest markets for UNIX workstations in the past has been for graphics, visualization and number crunching, especially in the scientific and educational, as well as CAD/CAM markets. There was a reason for it, and one that Linux shares; high performance and most of all, stability. You can't rely on your tools if they crash constantly, especially when working with critical data or large datasets (these workstations usually had a lot of RAM, and UNIX can deal with large stuff in stride). If there were some key tools in the Open Source corral, like the GIMP, an office package, and some good vector packages, along with a non-linear video system... I hate to say "Linux will be unstoppable" as fine tools like the GIMP work on Solaris and Irix (I use 'em both) also. Let's say this would be a major coup for Open Source! To all the developers of these tools, I personally say, "thank you!" You're doing an awesome job and I"m grateful for your work - I use these tools everyday.:) Michael Holve Everything Linux http://eunuchs.org/linux
I've been using Dia more and more lately. It's like Visio; you can do UML or network diagrams, flowcharts, etc. It's still early in it's design, but all the essentials are there and it's usable. Congrats to the authors - keep up the good work!
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Many talk of "source code download size" or "binary file size."
You can't compare downloading the source to the Gimp along with GTK to a binary that Paul is distributing. That's apples and oranges folks.
As for binary size, my copy of Gimp v1.1.19 is 1.7MB in size, properly stripped down. Did you ever try a "strip --strip-all" on a compiled binary? Amazing, how much it shrinks when you remove debugging symbols and such. ;>
It loads much quicker too.
I started one of the first Linux cams way back when the Connectix first came out. It's still up today, years later. Instructions on how to do it, etc.
Check it out.
I just watched my karma swing from 36 to -14.
Punk ass moderators.
Who would want a robot when you can drive this fine piece of VW engineering yourself? I wouldn't!
How about "like a moron?"
It's YOUR robot, YOU pay. ;>
Not to mention that by "drafting" each other, the cars would become more fuel efficient thanks to less resistance due to air drag...
Does this mean the end of their "Drivers wanted" ad campaign, now that they're obsolete? ;>
Witzig, aber nicht ganz so practish.
I'm not at all against paying for authoring or development environments and such. By all means.
But simple players - that should remain free. It's like the old addage, "give away the razor and sell the blades" as it were.
My only complaint is that there's no Linux version, that's all. I like the QT format, personally. It's just a PITA that I can't view them whilst browsing...
On a side note, upgrading Netscape broke "plugger" and Netscape no longer shows .png files properly. Anyone have ideas out there? I'd rather not put xv in as a helper app - that would display the picture outside of the browser.
However, I for one wouldn't pay for a player either. No one should. An encoder I can see, but a player? Not on your life.
Why should someone pay for a player to view QT? I'd just as soon use MPEG or even AVI before I did that. I'm not being a cheap slashdork user, I'm being realistic.
If you want people to use your CODEC or technology, you need to make it easy and painless for your audience; take a look at Flash and Shockwave. Free plugins.
So in that respect, you gain market share or dominance over your competition. Technical merits aside, product A could kick ass and cost money, but if B is almost as good and free, guess who wins?
Agreed, Apple really does need to release a player, if nothing else. I refuse to boot into Windows or go to a Mac just to view a Quicktime video. Instead, I just mutter, "damned QT" and move on... NOT a way to gain market share. ;>
Looking for developers - take a look...
Maybe on the Intel front... But then Sun never really put much stock in x86 Solaris. I wouldn't use x86 Solaris unless it was the last choice - I'd run Linux for that. Get a cheap Sparc and run Solaris on that.
I submitted this, but who knows if it'll ever show up around here... So I figure I'll mention it here, too.
LONDON (Reuters) - A teenager arrested in Wales for allegedly hacking into e-commerce Web sites had obtained the credit card details of Bill Gates, head of Microsoft and the world's richest man, newspapers said on Sunday.
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We're here because it's fun, it's cool and it's free.
I use what works for the job; and it's not always Linux.
Step away from the crack pipe, son...
Step away from the crack pipe, son.
One interesting line was, "...and the Pentagon's own UHF satellite network..."
Interesting.
...I'd rather they stuck with open protocols and such first. That, to me, would be more useful.
One of the biggest markets for UNIX workstations in the past has been for graphics, visualization and number crunching, especially in the scientific and educational, as well as CAD/CAM markets. There was a reason for it, and one that Linux shares; high performance and most of all, stability. You can't rely on your tools if they crash constantly, especially when working with critical data or large datasets (these workstations usually had a lot of RAM, and UNIX can deal with large stuff in stride). If there were some key tools in the Open Source corral, like the GIMP, an office package, and some good vector packages, along with a non-linear video system... I hate to say "Linux will be unstoppable" as fine tools like the GIMP work on Solaris and Irix (I use 'em both) also. Let's say this would be a major coup for Open Source! To all the developers of these tools, I personally say, "thank you!" You're doing an awesome job and I"m grateful for your work - I use these tools everyday. :) Michael Holve Everything Linux http://eunuchs.org/linux
I've been using Dia more and more lately. It's like Visio; you can do UML or network diagrams, flowcharts, etc. It's still early in it's design, but all the essentials are there and it's usable. Congrats to the authors - keep up the good work!