Its a Beta. Its also much much much faster when its not crashing; Ive been on minefield for several months and its easily every bit as speedy as chrome dev.
Addons cant really do anything that some clever JS cant do, unless im mistaken. Addons dont really compromise security that much, unless theyre plugin-style addons.
Its NOT the seamonkey model; unlike opera, mozilla, seamonkey etc, it doesnt have built in mail, torrent, ftp (at least not worth mentioning), an HTTP server (opera...), newsreader, etc.
Its JUST a browser, like its always been.
And I raise a motion that all complaining that 3.0 is too slow and bloaty, should be forced to use version 1.0 or 1.5 or 2.0, and see just how slow they really are when used with modern expectations of heavy duty JS, 30 some tabs, and zillions of extensions. I seem to recall an AWFUL lot of complaining from days of yore about 1.0 and 1.5's memory usage and bloat.
What is it they say, "the grass is always greener..."?
No, I did-- and assange isnt "this sort of thing", as he wasnt selling nuclear secrets to what was basically the enemy. Assange is just dumping everyones information willy nilly, and not during a time where we even execute spies-- havent you been watching the news lately? Didnt we just perform a spy swap?
given you the link to the US's own report on how many people don't actually belong in Gitmo.
None of them citizens, not once their citizenship has been established. Every story about "citizen held in gitmo" appears to be just plain wrong, with said person being removed as soon as status becomes known. Saying "whoops, you caught me, my bad" doesnt repair your credibility, you know.
I was pointing out how much political support there was for something like that.
Political support....from someone who isnt holding any office whatsoever right now? One or two people dont "much political support" make.
and I've already made the point that it's an executable offense
Thats wonderful news, I hope that you will forward your argument to the Obama attorneys. Be sure to forward your qualifications as well.
I don't need to prove that the crazy guy was following anyone's rhetoric.
If you are saying that crazy people will do crazy things, then I agree; but I dont get what that has to do with Assange, especially as he is in custody at the moment. Hes not likely to be randomly shot by some crazy person.
Thats only the dev version, IIRC. They have a bug open, it was introduced into WebKit back in August, looks like effort to fix it is ramping up (lotsa activity in december).
This doesnt, I dont believe, affect anything except for dev and maybe beta chrome.
Are you SERIOUSLY defending the Rosenbergs? Or shoving honest-to-goodness Cold War spies in the same camp as Assange, who has been more of an embarrassment than a grave asset to an enemy? We have a treason charge for a reason, and if citizens selling us out for money during a period of intense hostility and borderline war doesnt classify, then Im not sure what does.
Your second link, citizens in Gitmo, appears to be just plain wrong (unless wikipedia is incorrect)-- James Yee doesnt appear to have ever been held in Gitmo, but rather a brig in North Carolina, as he was in the armed forces at the time.
With your third link, you seem to be trying to make the point that, because a potential-not-even-yet-announced candidate for president has announced in a not-official-in-any-capacity that she thinks we should hunt obama, that this should therefore be treated as if it is official policy. Its not; no charges have even been made afaik.
Your last link is REALLY classy-- youre buying into this whole "the gunman must have been following someone's rhetoric", even though there is NO indication that he was doing so. If the cry had been "he was influenced by videogames", would you be so quick to cite it as fact? Hasnt it been shown that the man was just highly disturbed, nothing more? Do you REALLY need to take a tragedy and turn it into a political thing, whether or not it fits the reality?
Seriously man, its a little bit disgusting that you would go there.
You do realize that this isnt something thats actually occuring-- that the US has not requested extradition, issued any charges, or begun the process for any of those yet?
This is his lawyers being ridiculous in order to fight attempts to extradite him to Sweden so that he doesnt have to deal with this sexual misconduct case.
Regardless, hes in the UK right now, and if we wanted him extradited, I dont see why Sweden would be so much more likely to cooperate than the UK would.
Can you specify what US citizens were held-- after citizenship was established-- in gitmo? I found the story of Ali al-Marri, but he was not a citizen, merely residing here, and the only citizen I did find was removed from Gitmo as soon as his citizenship was discovered (Yaser Hamdi).
So yea, can you link to when citizens have been held long term in gitmo?
the fact remains that he got a far larger share of the vote than most western leaders, and extremely popular with most of the population
You know who else was wildly popular in their country? Hitler. Guess what-- thats NOT how we determine whether or not someone is the best thing since sliced bread.
Yes, I just Godwinned the thread, and possibly one of its first appropriate uses.
Um, no extradition request to the US has been issued, noone has indicated that any sort of serious action would be taken, and he has been charged with no crime in the US yet.
This is all posturing by his lawyers; none of this is real yet. They are arguing against extradition to sweden because of what the US might do; its all legal tactics to avoid the case in sweden.
The current dictator had opposition who actually made it into power in a coalition government with him. Said opposition privately endorsed sanctions against Mugabe, and since that has been made public, Mugabe now has an excellent weapon to use against his rival to oust him and level treason charges against him.
This is just it though; so many vocal slashdotters-- and Assange-- would just as soon there be NO secrets at all. I had some advocating the release of nuke launch codes (nevermind that they may well be at defaults) or Obama's email passwords, etc; I havent come up with something that said crowd would not be happy to have leaked.
This is why I stated "they dont understand the real world"; this world where no secrets are needed does not exist.
I dont intend to read several thousand embassy wires looking for some shady back room dealings, because Im pretty sure I already know what I will find-- lots of not-too-interesting stuff that should never have been leaked and is more of an embarrasment for all countries involved than anything else.
You are making claims that possibly criminal stuff exists in these wires; this requires justification. If you told me that, on google, I could find evidence that such and such was a murderer, I would (rightly) demand proof / a link. Likewise, I dont intend to dig through several thousand pages looking for support of your claim. You made it, so the onus is on you to support it.
Except that, the only information we have regarding what license applies is from Appnor's CEO (linked in summary), who states that he purchased the rights to WinMTR and that there was a single external contribution which they patched out.
So in reality, unless there is conflicting info, it would seem that there was no violation at all, and contacting SFLC or EFF would have been a gigantic waste of time; simply emailing the man would have sufficed.
First off, you utterly failed to link to relevant sources, so I have to take it on faith that there is SOME shred of truth behind your statements.
-Shoving USA-style IP laws onto Spain.
I am unaware of any mechanism for the US to force laws into another country, and pressuring them to do so is neither a crime nor unusual; it is, in fact, part of how diplomacy works (using pressure to bring about an end). What youre really saying is "i disagree with our foreign or domestic IP policy", and you are free to do so, but that doesnt make said policy criminal.
-DynCorp, funded by USA taxpayers, bought young male sex slaves for Afghan cops in a "batca bazzi" party.
A) Source, B) DynCorp is NOT the US govt, its a private firm.
-The CIA pressured Spain into dropping investigations into the killing of José Couso, a Spanish journalist, in Iraq by American troops.
A) source, B) pressure is not illegal. See my first point.
-The Shell Oil Company claimed it had inserted staff into all the main ministries of the Nigerian government,
Shell is a private company, not the US Govt, so thats irrelevant, and no reason for embassy wires to be leaked.
Sadly, you didn't know any of this because the press is too interested in Julian's rape-charges.
Nice assumption, but wrong. Julian's court case has nothing to do with this, though I will note that do not think that he is a perfect little angel. I am simply tired of this rabid "information wants to be free" attitude, nevermind that thats NOT how diplomacy works. Some secrets are necessary in the world; even cryptography, much lauded for its non-reliance on security-through-obscurity, STILL requires certain information to be secret in order to function.
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Its a Beta. Its also much much much faster when its not crashing; Ive been on minefield for several months and its easily every bit as speedy as chrome dev.
Addons cant really do anything that some clever JS cant do, unless im mistaken. Addons dont really compromise security that much, unless theyre plugin-style addons.
Its NOT the seamonkey model; unlike opera, mozilla, seamonkey etc, it doesnt have built in mail, torrent, ftp (at least not worth mentioning), an HTTP server (opera...), newsreader, etc.
Its JUST a browser, like its always been.
And I raise a motion that all complaining that 3.0 is too slow and bloaty, should be forced to use version 1.0 or 1.5 or 2.0, and see just how slow they really are when used with modern expectations of heavy duty JS, 30 some tabs, and zillions of extensions. I seem to recall an AWFUL lot of complaining from days of yore about 1.0 and 1.5's memory usage and bloat.
What is it they say, "the grass is always greener..."?
Did you not read my link text at all?
No, I did-- and assange isnt "this sort of thing", as he wasnt selling nuclear secrets to what was basically the enemy. Assange is just dumping everyones information willy nilly, and not during a time where we even execute spies-- havent you been watching the news lately? Didnt we just perform a spy swap?
given you the link to the US's own report on how many people don't actually belong in Gitmo.
None of them citizens, not once their citizenship has been established. Every story about "citizen held in gitmo" appears to be just plain wrong, with said person being removed as soon as status becomes known. Saying "whoops, you caught me, my bad" doesnt repair your credibility, you know.
I was pointing out how much political support there was for something like that.
Political support....from someone who isnt holding any office whatsoever right now? One or two people dont "much political support" make.
and I've already made the point that it's an executable offense
Thats wonderful news, I hope that you will forward your argument to the Obama attorneys. Be sure to forward your qualifications as well.
I don't need to prove that the crazy guy was following anyone's rhetoric.
If you are saying that crazy people will do crazy things, then I agree; but I dont get what that has to do with Assange, especially as he is in custody at the moment. Hes not likely to be randomly shot by some crazy person.
I imagine chromium is basically "dev chrome" minus the google bits. It still obviously pulls from webkit, so it would be affected.
Point is, I do not believe it affects Chrome stable, or chromium older than August.
Somehow that post got misplaced :( It was intended for another place in the thread where that claim was indeed made
Whoops, didnt RTFS, disregard that
Checking facebook is neither an unreasonable search nor a seizure. It is publicly available information.
Actually, technically WebM appears to be a container format too.... whoops
Bundling flash is free, and everyone is free to do so. H264 requires a license.
FLV is a container, not a codec. The 2 decisions would be, "FLV vs HTML5", and "H264 vs WebM".
Thats only the dev version, IIRC. They have a bug open, it was introduced into WebKit back in August, looks like effort to fix it is ramping up (lotsa activity in december).
This doesnt, I dont believe, affect anything except for dev and maybe beta chrome.
Er, that should be "she thinks we should hunt assange", though I suppose it is possible Palin is planning a coup.
Are you SERIOUSLY defending the Rosenbergs? Or shoving honest-to-goodness Cold War spies in the same camp as Assange, who has been more of an embarrassment than a grave asset to an enemy? We have a treason charge for a reason, and if citizens selling us out for money during a period of intense hostility and borderline war doesnt classify, then Im not sure what does.
Your second link, citizens in Gitmo, appears to be just plain wrong (unless wikipedia is incorrect)-- James Yee doesnt appear to have ever been held in Gitmo, but rather a brig in North Carolina, as he was in the armed forces at the time.
With your third link, you seem to be trying to make the point that, because a potential-not-even-yet-announced candidate for president has announced in a not-official-in-any-capacity that she thinks we should hunt obama, that this should therefore be treated as if it is official policy. Its not; no charges have even been made afaik.
Your last link is REALLY classy-- youre buying into this whole "the gunman must have been following someone's rhetoric", even though there is NO indication that he was doing so. If the cry had been "he was influenced by videogames", would you be so quick to cite it as fact? Hasnt it been shown that the man was just highly disturbed, nothing more? Do you REALLY need to take a tragedy and turn it into a political thing, whether or not it fits the reality?
Seriously man, its a little bit disgusting that you would go there.
Not without a request for extradition it wouldnt. What, are we just sending marines over to pick him up from England?
You do realize that this isnt something thats actually occuring-- that the US has not requested extradition, issued any charges, or begun the process for any of those yet?
This is his lawyers being ridiculous in order to fight attempts to extradite him to Sweden so that he doesnt have to deal with this sexual misconduct case.
Regardless, hes in the UK right now, and if we wanted him extradited, I dont see why Sweden would be so much more likely to cooperate than the UK would.
Can you specify what US citizens were held-- after citizenship was established-- in gitmo? I found the story of Ali al-Marri, but he was not a citizen, merely residing here, and the only citizen I did find was removed from Gitmo as soon as his citizenship was discovered (Yaser Hamdi).
So yea, can you link to when citizens have been held long term in gitmo?
So your response to people who think leaking all of their countries secrets isnt helpful, is to point at them, call them retarded, and laugh?
Yes, thats EXACTLY the sort of discourse one would hope for on a site supposedly full of well educated and well spoken individuals. Real mature.
the fact remains that he got a far larger share of the vote than most western leaders, and extremely popular with most of the population
You know who else was wildly popular in their country? Hitler. Guess what-- thats NOT how we determine whether or not someone is the best thing since sliced bread.
Yes, I just Godwinned the thread, and possibly one of its first appropriate uses.
Um, no extradition request to the US has been issued, noone has indicated that any sort of serious action would be taken, and he has been charged with no crime in the US yet.
This is all posturing by his lawyers; none of this is real yet. They are arguing against extradition to sweden because of what the US might do; its all legal tactics to avoid the case in sweden.
The current dictator had opposition who actually made it into power in a coalition government with him. Said opposition privately endorsed sanctions against Mugabe, and since that has been made public, Mugabe now has an excellent weapon to use against his rival to oust him and level treason charges against him.
Again-- real diplomacy requires secrets.
This is just it though; so many vocal slashdotters-- and Assange-- would just as soon there be NO secrets at all. I had some advocating the release of nuke launch codes (nevermind that they may well be at defaults) or Obama's email passwords, etc; I havent come up with something that said crowd would not be happy to have leaked.
This is why I stated "they dont understand the real world"; this world where no secrets are needed does not exist.
I dont intend to read several thousand embassy wires looking for some shady back room dealings, because Im pretty sure I already know what I will find-- lots of not-too-interesting stuff that should never have been leaked and is more of an embarrasment for all countries involved than anything else.
You are making claims that possibly criminal stuff exists in these wires; this requires justification. If you told me that, on google, I could find evidence that such and such was a murderer, I would (rightly) demand proof / a link. Likewise, I dont intend to dig through several thousand pages looking for support of your claim. You made it, so the onus is on you to support it.
Except that, the only information we have regarding what license applies is from Appnor's CEO (linked in summary), who states that he purchased the rights to WinMTR and that there was a single external contribution which they patched out.
So in reality, unless there is conflicting info, it would seem that there was no violation at all, and contacting SFLC or EFF would have been a gigantic waste of time; simply emailing the man would have sufficed.
First off, you utterly failed to link to relevant sources, so I have to take it on faith that there is SOME shred of truth behind your statements.
-Shoving USA-style IP laws onto Spain.
I am unaware of any mechanism for the US to force laws into another country, and pressuring them to do so is neither a crime nor unusual; it is, in fact, part of how diplomacy works (using pressure to bring about an end). What youre really saying is "i disagree with our foreign or domestic IP policy", and you are free to do so, but that doesnt make said policy criminal.
-DynCorp, funded by USA taxpayers, bought young male sex slaves for Afghan cops in a "batca bazzi" party.
A) Source, B) DynCorp is NOT the US govt, its a private firm.
-The CIA pressured Spain into dropping investigations into the killing of José Couso, a Spanish journalist, in Iraq by American troops.
A) source, B) pressure is not illegal. See my first point.
-The Shell Oil Company claimed it had inserted staff into all the main ministries of the Nigerian government,
Shell is a private company, not the US Govt, so thats irrelevant, and no reason for embassy wires to be leaked.
Sadly, you didn't know any of this because the press is too interested in Julian's rape-charges.
Nice assumption, but wrong. Julian's court case has nothing to do with this, though I will note that do not think that he is a perfect little angel. I am simply tired of this rabid "information wants to be free" attitude, nevermind that thats NOT how diplomacy works. Some secrets are necessary in the world; even cryptography, much lauded for its non-reliance on security-through-obscurity, STILL requires certain information to be secret in order to function.