Wheres the -1 clueless? Installing tomato and coreboot isnt remotely close to "compiling firmware" for them, any more than sticking an ubuntu install disk in your PC is rolling your own operating system.
FWIW, Id agree about assange-- whatever your thoughts about leak sites, the man doesnt seem like the kind of person youd want running one (and not because of the assault allegations).
IIRC, OpenLeaks is there because the founders (former Wikileaks folks) wanted a world leaks site, not just an anti-US one-- and when they raised this to Assange, they got accused of "being disloyal". Source-- an earlier slashdot, cant dig it up at the moment:\
Ranting about how awful the TSA is with no actual comprehensible argument behind it isnt going to change anyone's opinion. If you want change, a good start is having a position that can be stated rationally, as opposed to "we are just plain tired of this crap".
Rate of attacks has nothing to do with likelihood of attack, since the attacker can change their behavior to adapt to the system. Historical data may be helpful, but to say "we only had X attacks in 1980, therefore the security measures used in 1980 will ensure only X attacks" is so wrong its not even funny. Technology changes, so must security measures. I wonder what kind of security the whitehouse had in 1805; clearly, given the lack of attacks on it during that year, whatever security they had in place is all that is necessary now, right?
You really think America qualifies as puritan or prudish by any stretch of the imagination? You may want to poke your head out of the basement periodically.
I just flew a few weeks back, and had to be patted down because my bag beeped (was carrying a server in it). The guy doing the pat down me seemed pretty unenthusiastic about it, in fact it rather seemed like he had a boring job and just wanted me as a nuisance to disappear as fast as protocol would allow.
Im not on board with the scanners, and this sounds like a bad idea, but I rather suspect the people getting foamy mouthed about this should try to gather a LITTLE more accurate info about it, and then form an actual comprehensible argument about why its a bad idea rather than "OMG THEYRE FEELING ME UP". Security patdowns are a real thing that police actually use; the question isnt whether it is sexual assault, but whether
A) theyre being done properly, and
B) whether they are necessary.
You may not think they are necessary; thats fine. You may also think that unqualified people are doing the patdowns, that would also be a reasonable stance. Hollering that all patdowns are a violation of first amendment rights (false statement) or that all patdowns are sexually abusive (false statement) or that you dont like the TSA (irrelevant) doesnt really help your position or make you look terribly intelligent.
But then I dont think this is really about any of that. I think people simply want to be outraged at the TSA, and so they will be, without actually knowing why.
I just read an article about how congress was considering cellphone jamming being mandatory as well. How long before we just let them tell us what kind of car we want to drive? Im sure that plan has great justification too, but Im just not terribly interested in seeing the government become my nanny.
Was going to make the same snarky comment, but then kept reading the article where it states:
We start by augmenting the JavaScript engine in a browser with a “deobfuscator” that extracts and collects individual fragments
of JavaScript. As discussed above, exploits are frequently buried under multiple levels of JavaScript eval.
Looks like theyre aware of that little problem, supposedly they can deal with it (at least in theory).
Dude, you entirely missed the point-- Im not defending the US gov'ts actions because they havent TAKEN any. EveryDNS and Amazon dropping Wikileaks is presumably because of the DDoS-- the only involvement of the govt here is idle speculation.
If the government were to try to force Amazon or EveryDNS to drop them, you can be damn sure they would get taken down several notches by the court system, as no charges have as of yet been filed.
Get this through your head, Amazon=/=US Government.
Id like to clarify that I dont think "we're not as bad as a 3rd world dictatorship" is a reason to give anyone a pass; but to hear someone complaining about their utter lack of freedom in one of the freest societies in history has got to be highly insulting to those who live in truly tyrannical, oppressive societies, and would quite literally die (Tianamen square?) for the freedoms that are being scoffed at here.
The biggest portion of my complaint is that there seems to be no weight whatsoever behind your assertion of "free as long as we dont cross our politicians". What happened to the pentagon papers leaker Daniel Elsburg? Oh wait, hes still walking free. What happens to talk show pundits who rail against politicians? Oh wait, they enjoy first amendment protections.
Dude, you have no idea what youre talking about. Wikileaks just sustained (and remained active through) a gigabits per second DDoS, all the while their site was more active than it probably has been in a long time, and you think STORAGE was their problem? You think they just deleted however much of their other data (hundreds of gigs?) for a gig or two of leaks? When you can purchase a 10x RAID1 arrays of 1TB each for under $1000 US?
EVEN were that the case, what makes these embassy leaks so much more important than reports of ACTUAL CORRUPTION (which as I understand these particular wires do NOT) from other places in the world? Oh, thats right, it makes the US look bad, so theyre more important. I see.
People spouting off about the lack of freedoms (and lack of democracy?!?!?!) demonstrated by the wikileaks relocations need to go back to 8th, maybe 9th grade Civics-- and relearn that Bill of Rights protections do NOT apply to private entities, and that EveryDNS / Amazon have every right to drop anyone who costs them more money than its worth (unless they signed a contract forbidding that).
In fact, if youll go back and look at the Amendments again, youll note that theyre "Congress shall not"s, and that Congress HASNT. FURTHER, since Wikileaks isnt governed by US law, its all pretty much irrelevant, since what Congress does has very little to do with what Wikileaks does.
Im not even sure how to respond to the comment about "so-called democratic", since the private entities involved very patently ARENT democracies.
Are you HONESTLY telling me in this world of Zimbabwe, North Korea, and China, that you dont think you have any freedoms in the US? Or that we're even close to having "freedom and justice" just as "buzzwords"?
The fact that people can vote-- and did so, ousting the conservatives that everyone was so aclamor about-- indicates that youre just spouting hyperbole without a shred of perspective. The country may not be perfect, but its phenomonally childish to complain about a lack of freedoms in one of the freest countries in the world. Ill note that people CONSTANTLY criticize, satirize, and insult our leaders, and yet noone has yet been put to death, imprisoned, or "disappeared" for doing so.
If you have a way around all the jurisdictional issues of "hacking" infected computers across states, countries, and continents, please do tell. Then we can deal with the issue of "how do we properly remove rootkits and viruses from 500,000 computers, when there is no 100% effective method of disinfecting 1".
I never heard precisely what truth that was. That we spy, like everyone else? General consensus seems to have been that the embassy wires were embarrassing, but not scandalous, and I havent heard that the gov't is trying to prevent people from reporting on it.
In fact, if anything, Ive heard how embarrassing it is that the gov't's response has been so timid.
Are people seriously going to start blasting away about this with nothing more for evidence than that the defendant filed an exhibit under seal? So basically, he thinks its true, and that his evidence is solid, but none of us can see it-- and thats enough for everyone to believe it?
Dont get me wrong, it wouldnt be hard to imagine this being real-- but the fact that everyone here is going to take someone's word about it-- especially when winning their court case is dependent on that statement-- is rather astonishing. I would hope at least people would wait to actually SEE the evidence.
One would think people would remember Tenenbaum, and how SURE everyone was that he was in the right, only to later find that he was basically lying about everything.
If you look at the sites publication record, the idea of an anti-US stance does not stand up to scrutiny. Wikileaks published a significant amount of material relating to corporate and political misdeeds--Scientology documents, an Icelandic bank, internet censorship
Yes, and at one point you could actually ACCESS those non-US-gov't leaks. Now however, all that is on their website is the last few gigantic anti-US leaks. Thoughts on why that might be?
Um, Amazon isnt a federal entity, its private-- and regardless im not sure Wikileaks is entitled to first amendment rights, as those apply to citizens iirc.
Regardless, as a private entity, Amazon is free to do business with whoever they want, and if the DDoS is costing them more trouble than its worth, theyre free to dump WL. Or would you require business to put their operations at risk in order to fight a battle that they have no interest in?
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Wheres the -1 clueless? Installing tomato and coreboot isnt remotely close to "compiling firmware" for them, any more than sticking an ubuntu install disk in your PC is rolling your own operating system.
Way to go mods, his comment is REAL insightful.
FWIW, Id agree about assange-- whatever your thoughts about leak sites, the man doesnt seem like the kind of person youd want running one (and not because of the assault allegations).
IIRC, OpenLeaks is there because the founders (former Wikileaks folks) wanted a world leaks site, not just an anti-US one-- and when they raised this to Assange, they got accused of "being disloyal". Source-- an earlier slashdot, cant dig it up at the moment :\
Ranting about how awful the TSA is with no actual comprehensible argument behind it isnt going to change anyone's opinion. If you want change, a good start is having a position that can be stated rationally, as opposed to "we are just plain tired of this crap".
Rate of attacks has nothing to do with likelihood of attack, since the attacker can change their behavior to adapt to the system. Historical data may be helpful, but to say "we only had X attacks in 1980, therefore the security measures used in 1980 will ensure only X attacks" is so wrong its not even funny. Technology changes, so must security measures. I wonder what kind of security the whitehouse had in 1805; clearly, given the lack of attacks on it during that year, whatever security they had in place is all that is necessary now, right?
You really think America qualifies as puritan or prudish by any stretch of the imagination? You may want to poke your head out of the basement periodically.
message for TSA security measures are simple: "Terrorists Bad, Must Stop Them"
I thought that was basically their job description, actually.
Im not on board with the scanners, and this sounds like a bad idea, but I rather suspect the people getting foamy mouthed about this should try to gather a LITTLE more accurate info about it, and then form an actual comprehensible argument about why its a bad idea rather than "OMG THEYRE FEELING ME UP". Security patdowns are a real thing that police actually use; the question isnt whether it is sexual assault, but whether
You may not think they are necessary; thats fine. You may also think that unqualified people are doing the patdowns, that would also be a reasonable stance. Hollering that all patdowns are a violation of first amendment rights (false statement) or that all patdowns are sexually abusive (false statement) or that you dont like the TSA (irrelevant) doesnt really help your position or make you look terribly intelligent.
But then I dont think this is really about any of that. I think people simply want to be outraged at the TSA, and so they will be, without actually knowing why.
I just read an article about how congress was considering cellphone jamming being mandatory as well. How long before we just let them tell us what kind of car we want to drive? Im sure that plan has great justification too, but Im just not terribly interested in seeing the government become my nanny.
We start by augmenting the JavaScript engine in a browser with a “deobfuscator” that extracts and collects individual fragments of JavaScript. As discussed above, exploits are frequently buried under multiple levels of JavaScript eval.
Looks like theyre aware of that little problem, supposedly they can deal with it (at least in theory).
Dude, you entirely missed the point-- Im not defending the US gov'ts actions because they havent TAKEN any. EveryDNS and Amazon dropping Wikileaks is presumably because of the DDoS-- the only involvement of the govt here is idle speculation.
If the government were to try to force Amazon or EveryDNS to drop them, you can be damn sure they would get taken down several notches by the court system, as no charges have as of yet been filed.
Get this through your head, Amazon=/=US Government.
Id like to clarify that I dont think "we're not as bad as a 3rd world dictatorship" is a reason to give anyone a pass; but to hear someone complaining about their utter lack of freedom in one of the freest societies in history has got to be highly insulting to those who live in truly tyrannical, oppressive societies, and would quite literally die (Tianamen square?) for the freedoms that are being scoffed at here.
The biggest portion of my complaint is that there seems to be no weight whatsoever behind your assertion of "free as long as we dont cross our politicians". What happened to the pentagon papers leaker Daniel Elsburg? Oh wait, hes still walking free. What happens to talk show pundits who rail against politicians? Oh wait, they enjoy first amendment protections.
Dude, you have no idea what youre talking about. Wikileaks just sustained (and remained active through) a gigabits per second DDoS, all the while their site was more active than it probably has been in a long time, and you think STORAGE was their problem? You think they just deleted however much of their other data (hundreds of gigs?) for a gig or two of leaks? When you can purchase a 10x RAID1 arrays of 1TB each for under $1000 US?
EVEN were that the case, what makes these embassy leaks so much more important than reports of ACTUAL CORRUPTION (which as I understand these particular wires do NOT) from other places in the world? Oh, thats right, it makes the US look bad, so theyre more important. I see.
People spouting off about the lack of freedoms (and lack of democracy?!?!?!) demonstrated by the wikileaks relocations need to go back to 8th, maybe 9th grade Civics-- and relearn that Bill of Rights protections do NOT apply to private entities, and that EveryDNS / Amazon have every right to drop anyone who costs them more money than its worth (unless they signed a contract forbidding that).
In fact, if youll go back and look at the Amendments again, youll note that theyre "Congress shall not"s, and that Congress HASNT. FURTHER, since Wikileaks isnt governed by US law, its all pretty much irrelevant, since what Congress does has very little to do with what Wikileaks does.
Im not even sure how to respond to the comment about "so-called democratic", since the private entities involved very patently ARENT democracies.
people voted to protect the rights of rich people
If slashdot is to be believed, Obama wasnt supposed to do that-- I thought it was the republicans who were the fat cats?
Are you HONESTLY telling me in this world of Zimbabwe, North Korea, and China, that you dont think you have any freedoms in the US? Or that we're even close to having "freedom and justice" just as "buzzwords"?
The fact that people can vote-- and did so, ousting the conservatives that everyone was so aclamor about-- indicates that youre just spouting hyperbole without a shred of perspective. The country may not be perfect, but its phenomonally childish to complain about a lack of freedoms in one of the freest countries in the world. Ill note that people CONSTANTLY criticize, satirize, and insult our leaders, and yet noone has yet been put to death, imprisoned, or "disappeared" for doing so.
Grow up and join the real world, please.
If you have a way around all the jurisdictional issues of "hacking" infected computers across states, countries, and continents, please do tell. Then we can deal with the issue of "how do we properly remove rootkits and viruses from 500,000 computers, when there is no 100% effective method of disinfecting 1".
I never heard precisely what truth that was. That we spy, like everyone else? General consensus seems to have been that the embassy wires were embarrassing, but not scandalous, and I havent heard that the gov't is trying to prevent people from reporting on it.
In fact, if anything, Ive heard how embarrassing it is that the gov't's response has been so timid.
Are people seriously going to start blasting away about this with nothing more for evidence than that the defendant filed an exhibit under seal? So basically, he thinks its true, and that his evidence is solid, but none of us can see it-- and thats enough for everyone to believe it?
Dont get me wrong, it wouldnt be hard to imagine this being real-- but the fact that everyone here is going to take someone's word about it-- especially when winning their court case is dependent on that statement-- is rather astonishing. I would hope at least people would wait to actually SEE the evidence.
One would think people would remember Tenenbaum, and how SURE everyone was that he was in the right, only to later find that he was basically lying about everything.
If you look at the sites publication record, the idea of an anti-US stance does not stand up to scrutiny. Wikileaks published a significant amount of material relating to corporate and political misdeeds--Scientology documents, an Icelandic bank, internet censorship
Yes, and at one point you could actually ACCESS those non-US-gov't leaks. Now however, all that is on their website is the last few gigantic anti-US leaks. Thoughts on why that might be?
Any reason you cant access any NON US leaks right now? All I see are the embassy wires, and the war diaries.
You telling me I cant simply apt-get uninstall wayland?
By focusing on Unity (on Wayland or X) for Ubuntu, Canonical has essentially forked its own Linux distribution.
you arent missing much (what does that even mean???? They cant "fork" their own distro...).
Um, Amazon isnt a federal entity, its private-- and regardless im not sure Wikileaks is entitled to first amendment rights, as those apply to citizens iirc.
Regardless, as a private entity, Amazon is free to do business with whoever they want, and if the DDoS is costing them more trouble than its worth, theyre free to dump WL. Or would you require business to put their operations at risk in order to fight a battle that they have no interest in?
depends on the switch, and whether its managed. Also, poisoning arp tables isnt exactly stealthy, its pretty easy to detect...