your argument might just possibly be worse than his. Just because the innovation of flight has led to some new problems doesnt mean that the entire process was a waste.
it's FBI has assassinated American civilians, the CIA is currently torturing someone to death in a secret prison somewhere in the world, and right now it has the right to extra-judiciously assassinate any person, even US citizens, that it believes to be involved in terrorism
You have any sources for any of that? Id be especially interested in the "currently torturing someone to death"... is that rhetoric, or should you be posting AC?
Then why hasnt Sunde told us what domain it was? This isnt an issue of "privacy"; hes claiming it was a clear wrong that was done, but hasnt given ANY information on what exactly occurred other than "MPAA is oppressing me, and ICANN is badguys".
Free the net to the people who know how to use it and won't download viruses to their own computers thinking it's antivirus software...
I do IT work for a living, and I dont even know my routers IPv6 address.... what on EARTH makes you think people will want to keep a list of those?
Has it even occurred to you that there are dozens of legitimate IT reasons to use DNS? Like, say, not having to reconfigure all of your VPN clients every time you do an ISP change? Or enabling your finance folks to use email on the road through a web browser?
And while we're at it, you do realize a vast vast vast majority of virus infections do NOT come from people manually downloading and installing viruses, right? That most are from plugin exploits?
Except blacklists arent being aplied at the root DNS level last time I checked, so its pretty irrelevant. Youre looking for a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. Australia can simply filter dns responses as they reach the mainland, since theres only one or two lines entering the country. Even if you have alternative roots in Australia, the ISP can filter stuff as it heads towards your modem.
Changing DNS settings will never be the fix for censorship unless the person censoring hasnt yet gotten out of networking 101.
Wait, so a bunch of spooks and RIAA and MPAA folks have their claws into the ICANN, and the ICANN just revoked access to "one of Sunde's domains" (mysteriously unnamed!!!), but Pirate bay remains online.
We're supposed to extrapolate from this that there is a domain of Sunde's that the MPAA / RIAA want offline MORE than pirate bay? Riiiiiiight. How about telling everyone what domain it was so we can judge for ourselves whether or not ICANN is acting in bad faith; I may not trust the MPAA / RIAA, but Im not entirely sure I want to take the word of the guy running pirate bay, either.
Sounds to me like you simply want a system of arbitrary laws where you can pick and choose the ones you like. Sorry--doesnt work that way, so yea, you WILL get called "wrong" when you go around claiming that the rules dont apply because you think they suck.
Its a pretty childish attitude, and all the more so because you make it sound like youre some political crusader for downloading the latest games in the name of "sticking it to the man". I too once had a vague attitude of "the rules suck and information wants to be free" as I downloaded games etc; then I entered the real world, and grew up.
How about we demand a bit of reason from both sides-- less ridiculous punishments from the content creators, and less stupid bull about "the man getting me down" and "information wants to be free" from the kids who want their latest game for free?
If you think that all game developers that work in large companies do not enjoy developing games,
Youre creating a false dichotomy. I do IT for a living, and love it-- I routinely stay up till the wee hours of the morning troubleshooting some new project or enabling some new feature on my home network. But would I do it for free? No, because this is the real world and there are bills to pay.
I dont think youd end up with a game like Witcher 2 from devs going pro-bono, honestly.
Why is that? Is it because you need to have money to live in the current system? There are actually plenty of developers who work on software in their spare time. Very talented ones.
This is true, and you also end up with games like minecraft and tremulous and nexiuz and saurbraten--which, while fun, isnt exactly on the same level as your average game made by a for-profit studio. Talented people tend to do their side projects for free, but they DO have jobs. Heck, the most recent example of excellent indie OSS games on slashdot was for profit-- the devs want to make money so that they can CONTINUE to make games like this.
Would you still be a software developer if you lived in a system where money was not required?
Thats not really relevant to this conversation, as we live in the real world, not some imaginary one run off of good feelings. If you spend 200 hours on an awesome freeware game, thats 200 less hours you have to earn a living to pay the bills.
It's not immature or irresponsible to make people aware of the flaws in something without providing an alternative.
Its irresponsible to imply that its OK to undermine the current system (via freeloading) because the current one is flawed. You might as well suggest that people tamper with democratic elections, because democracy has some flaws and therefore its OK if we actively work towards its failure. Freeloading games is a burden on the system, and its NOT a form of political activism-- its just being immature and selfish.
We need to create a sensible copyright law first, then people will respect it. And only then can it be successfully enforced.
True, and I dont intend to deny that the current system is ridiculous. But that doesnt excuse people who think they should be able to consume all the content they want, whatever our society's laws say. I really dont think this is a case of "sticking it to the man", rather than a childish "Ill do whatever I want" mentality.
Answer this: if it doesn't hurt anyone, then why does it matter?
Because this is a capitilist society, not a commune nor anarchy, and there are RULES in our society. One of them is, if you want a service, good, or entertainment, you offer compensation for it.
Has society gone completely crazy? Why are people being cheered on for basically being leeches on the underbelly of society, demanding to be able to see whatever movie they want, play whatever game they want, and copy whatever they want, regardless of the rules our society has set up? Can you just come out and say that you honestly dont care about our society's laws, and that you intend to do whatever the hell you want?
I wouldnt be too sure about that; intent certainly figures into things when the law is concerned, and I think youd have a tough time convincing the courts that you thought being offered a single chunk from a "torrent sneaking firm" constituted permission to download the game; nor how you would convince them that you had the foresight to see all this in advance.
Going after people who bootleg the thing isnt going after customers; its going after freeloaders, and generally thats substantially less bad for business.
And somehow I have a feeling that their ire is about the wrong thing. If it were possible to have reasonable certainty about who actually downloaded the file, this would be worthwhile, but I dont think theres really a good tie a WAN address to a LAN address from the outside yet.
That issue aside, id be interested to see the objections raised-- I suspect theyll boil down to "I cant have whatever I want? No fair!".
The biggest issue is that its only users like us (who really really do hate paying money for MS products), who have actually used calc extensively, that understand just how awful it is. So many others will just fire off an "OOO is fine, you must not know how to use it", despite its enormous deficiencies.
Talk to me about Writer, and how it can replace Word, and sure, I can go along. Start spouting about calc as an Excel replacement, and I write you off as a fanatic.
There is a ton of stuff that Excel does quickly and easily that is absolutely obnoxious to do in OOO. This isnt an issue of usage-- I probably use calc more than excel, since im too cheap to buy office for home usage. Having tried to replicate one of my office's time accounting sheets in both OOO and Google Docs, I can say that both are FAR from feature complete-- these arent complex things that suck in calc, but simple things like merging cells, inserting cells, copying formats, etc. Calc is NOT a replacement for excel by ANY stretch of the imagination.
As for ugly, unfortunately, this is the real world, and ugly does matter. Explain to the CEO all you want about how terrible Vista is, and then watch as he turns around and demands it be deployed "because it looks better". If OOO is ugly, users wont want to use it.
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your argument might just possibly be worse than his. Just because the innovation of flight has led to some new problems doesnt mean that the entire process was a waste.
Yes, that IPv6 address comcast hands me is imaginary. Absolutely no way ipv6.google.com resolves from my home network, right?
er, I have several publicly routable /29 blocks at several clients. Care to clarify your statement? As posted, it is misleading at best.
it's FBI has assassinated American civilians, the CIA is currently torturing someone to death in a secret prison somewhere in the world, and right now it has the right to extra-judiciously assassinate any person, even US citizens, that it believes to be involved in terrorism
You have any sources for any of that? Id be especially interested in the "currently torturing someone to death"... is that rhetoric, or should you be posting AC?
likely
You have evidence that makes it "likely", or is it better termed "a hunch"?
Then why hasnt Sunde told us what domain it was? This isnt an issue of "privacy"; hes claiming it was a clear wrong that was done, but hasnt given ANY information on what exactly occurred other than "MPAA is oppressing me, and ICANN is badguys".
Free the net to the people who know how to use it and won't download viruses to their own computers thinking it's antivirus software...
I do IT work for a living, and I dont even know my routers IPv6 address.... what on EARTH makes you think people will want to keep a list of those?
Has it even occurred to you that there are dozens of legitimate IT reasons to use DNS? Like, say, not having to reconfigure all of your VPN clients every time you do an ISP change? Or enabling your finance folks to use email on the road through a web browser?
And while we're at it, you do realize a vast vast vast majority of virus infections do NOT come from people manually downloading and installing viruses, right? That most are from plugin exploits?
Cant we just check for the evil bit in the DNS responses? If 1, drop the response, if 0, accept it in the mirror....
In order for the government to keep track of DNS entries that it has "Confiscated", it has to apply it to easily identifiable name servers.
What makes you think this is the case? Why cant they simply store that info in a database?
Except blacklists arent being aplied at the root DNS level last time I checked, so its pretty irrelevant. Youre looking for a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. Australia can simply filter dns responses as they reach the mainland, since theres only one or two lines entering the country. Even if you have alternative roots in Australia, the ISP can filter stuff as it heads towards your modem.
Changing DNS settings will never be the fix for censorship unless the person censoring hasnt yet gotten out of networking 101.
Wait, so a bunch of spooks and RIAA and MPAA folks have their claws into the ICANN, and the ICANN just revoked access to "one of Sunde's domains" (mysteriously unnamed!!!), but Pirate bay remains online.
We're supposed to extrapolate from this that there is a domain of Sunde's that the MPAA / RIAA want offline MORE than pirate bay? Riiiiiiight. How about telling everyone what domain it was so we can judge for ourselves whether or not ICANN is acting in bad faith; I may not trust the MPAA / RIAA, but Im not entirely sure I want to take the word of the guy running pirate bay, either.
Your post isnt clear, are you claiming that no country ever has any reason to have any secret information?
there seem to be a whole bunch of reasonable posts modded down to -1
Its almost like being back at Digg, actually...
Sounds to me like you simply want a system of arbitrary laws where you can pick and choose the ones you like. Sorry--doesnt work that way, so yea, you WILL get called "wrong" when you go around claiming that the rules dont apply because you think they suck.
Its a pretty childish attitude, and all the more so because you make it sound like youre some political crusader for downloading the latest games in the name of "sticking it to the man". I too once had a vague attitude of "the rules suck and information wants to be free" as I downloaded games etc; then I entered the real world, and grew up.
How about we demand a bit of reason from both sides-- less ridiculous punishments from the content creators, and less stupid bull about "the man getting me down" and "information wants to be free" from the kids who want their latest game for free?
If you think that all game developers that work in large companies do not enjoy developing games,
Youre creating a false dichotomy. I do IT for a living, and love it-- I routinely stay up till the wee hours of the morning troubleshooting some new project or enabling some new feature on my home network. But would I do it for free? No, because this is the real world and there are bills to pay.
I dont think youd end up with a game like Witcher 2 from devs going pro-bono, honestly.
Why is that? Is it because you need to have money to live in the current system? There are actually plenty of developers who work on software in their spare time. Very talented ones.
This is true, and you also end up with games like minecraft and tremulous and nexiuz and saurbraten--which, while fun, isnt exactly on the same level as your average game made by a for-profit studio. Talented people tend to do their side projects for free, but they DO have jobs. Heck, the most recent example of excellent indie OSS games on slashdot was for profit-- the devs want to make money so that they can CONTINUE to make games like this.
Would you still be a software developer if you lived in a system where money was not required?
Thats not really relevant to this conversation, as we live in the real world, not some imaginary one run off of good feelings. If you spend 200 hours on an awesome freeware game, thats 200 less hours you have to earn a living to pay the bills.
It's not immature or irresponsible to make people aware of the flaws in something without providing an alternative.
Its irresponsible to imply that its OK to undermine the current system (via freeloading) because the current one is flawed. You might as well suggest that people tamper with democratic elections, because democracy has some flaws and therefore its OK if we actively work towards its failure. Freeloading games is a burden on the system, and its NOT a form of political activism-- its just being immature and selfish.
We need to create a sensible copyright law first, then people will respect it. And only then can it be successfully enforced.
True, and I dont intend to deny that the current system is ridiculous. But that doesnt excuse people who think they should be able to consume all the content they want, whatever our society's laws say. I really dont think this is a case of "sticking it to the man", rather than a childish "Ill do whatever I want" mentality.
Answer this: if it doesn't hurt anyone, then why does it matter?
Because this is a capitilist society, not a commune nor anarchy, and there are RULES in our society. One of them is, if you want a service, good, or entertainment, you offer compensation for it.
Has society gone completely crazy? Why are people being cheered on for basically being leeches on the underbelly of society, demanding to be able to see whatever movie they want, play whatever game they want, and copy whatever they want, regardless of the rules our society has set up? Can you just come out and say that you honestly dont care about our society's laws, and that you intend to do whatever the hell you want?
No verizon? Oh the horror, who will I go to when I want to be abused by terrible customer service and spotty access?
Honest question: why would you cry foul? I would be interested in knowing precisely the rationale behind condemning their plans.
I wouldnt be too sure about that; intent certainly figures into things when the law is concerned, and I think youd have a tough time convincing the courts that you thought being offered a single chunk from a "torrent sneaking firm" constituted permission to download the game; nor how you would convince them that you had the foresight to see all this in advance.
Going after people who bootleg the thing isnt going after customers; its going after freeloaders, and generally thats substantially less bad for business.
And somehow I have a feeling that their ire is about the wrong thing. If it were possible to have reasonable certainty about who actually downloaded the file, this would be worthwhile, but I dont think theres really a good tie a WAN address to a LAN address from the outside yet.
That issue aside, id be interested to see the objections raised-- I suspect theyll boil down to "I cant have whatever I want? No fair!".
The biggest issue is that its only users like us (who really really do hate paying money for MS products), who have actually used calc extensively, that understand just how awful it is. So many others will just fire off an "OOO is fine, you must not know how to use it", despite its enormous deficiencies.
Talk to me about Writer, and how it can replace Word, and sure, I can go along. Start spouting about calc as an Excel replacement, and I write you off as a fanatic.
There is a ton of stuff that Excel does quickly and easily that is absolutely obnoxious to do in OOO. This isnt an issue of usage-- I probably use calc more than excel, since im too cheap to buy office for home usage. Having tried to replicate one of my office's time accounting sheets in both OOO and Google Docs, I can say that both are FAR from feature complete-- these arent complex things that suck in calc, but simple things like merging cells, inserting cells, copying formats, etc. Calc is NOT a replacement for excel by ANY stretch of the imagination.
As for ugly, unfortunately, this is the real world, and ugly does matter. Explain to the CEO all you want about how terrible Vista is, and then watch as he turns around and demands it be deployed "because it looks better". If OOO is ugly, users wont want to use it.