If you link to them using a FRAMESET or an IFRAME, most browsers show the URL of the page with the frame, not the URL of the linked-to page. When you link in a 'normal' manner (using an A HREF tag), the full URL is shown in your browser's location bar and in the status bar when you move your mouse over the link.
Nope, that's wrong. If you give an HTTP version, then you have to press enter a second time to signal the end of headers. If you don't give an HTTP version, then the web server (should) assume HTTP/0.9, which doesn't allow extra headers, e.g.
Internet Explorer on WinME crashes many times daily, whether it is used as a poor File Mangler clone or a web browser.
I have yet to have Mozilla 20001013 crash, although
sometimes it refuses to start up.
The main problem that I have noticed with IE is that the interface is TERRIBLE. The so-called "smooth" scrolling goes in jumps and is extremely slow (on an Athlon 900, RIVA TNT2, 1280x1024x16bit, Windows 4.9). The progress bar displays no useful information whatsoever, and pages seem to load slower in general. And don't get me started about the security problems.
KDE is far too slow to be usable in 16mb. (Surprisingly, Enlightenment is actually almost as fast on a 486/66-16mb as on a P2/333-64mb.) It runs quite well on 32mb (which means most computers upgraded within the last 4 years:).
GNOME has always seemed a lot slower. And for some reason I have never had trouble with Netscape crashing. Mozilla, on the other hand, is different:)
Actually, Slashdot _does_ use cookies to store
your login name and password. From the Mozilla config box:
slashdot.org user="[my login name and password omitted]"
Another important thing to remember is that Netscape (and presumably IE, because Microsoft have copied most of Netscape's other "features") will remember any cookies that you've set in the past, even if you choose to disable them.
On Unix, you have to type "rm -f ~/.netscape/cookies" to permanently destroy them.
There is probably an equivalent on Windows and Mac systems.
If you use Mozilla, you can do "Edit/Prefs/Advanced/Cookies" and tell it to only accept cookies from the site that sent the HTML page (which disables web bugs and doubleclick.net cookies). You can also right-click on images to block them. For example, I have images.slashdot.org and ad.doubleclick.net blocked so I don't see as many ads.
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>> Oooh, oooh... Godwin's Law. Discussion over. > I find it amusing that this was the last post at thershold 1...
I have thought this for a while, although I couldn't think of how it could easily be fixed. If such a thing is ever implemented, though, don't make it brain-damaged like Windows' console app support is: some programmes just disappear if they don't produce any output, which is silly.
The Australian equivalent of Oftel is Austel (website: www.austel.gov.au:80). They set the regulations of what equipment is allowed to be connected to the phone lines (all of our phones have "AUSTEL APPROVED PERMIT" on the bottom).
In addition to this, Austel regulates the prices (= stops Telstra from overcharging) and also assigns phone numbers.
I also have Slack2.3 -- it was a very nice system for the time. One of the few things that I got annoyed was the X setup: most of the non-alphabetic keys didn't work at all. It had kernel 1.2.8, not 2.2.8...
The slowest kernel compile I have tried was trying to compile a 2.2.x kernel on a 486. That was painful.
I am horrified at what is going on in the US with companies patenting everything from GIFs to MP3s to DVDs. (What is worse is that Unisys only compained after LZW and GIFs had become a standard format.)
Australia has recently had some bad press over stupid legislation, but does it allow software patents? If so, have any been filed? (I'm sorry if I sound ignorant here, but I don't know where to look for such things.)
I agree that glibc6 is extremely bloated (according to the Slackware install, it is ~120 mb!!). The reason that there are two incompatible version of Glibc is because version 2.0.7 was a hacked patch by Debian and RedHat to fix up a beta version so that it would work. I think. The libc6 folks have said that they intend to keep backwards compatability from now on, but since all of the binaries on my machine either came with Slackware or were compiled by myself, this doesn't really affect me.
On the other hand, libc6 comes with some major advantages for people who prefer to speak German/French/whatever else. For example, if you are bored, try this:
LANG=fr cp notexist notexist2
or:
LANG=de mc
Another thing that I dislike is that modern Linux systems tend to breed shared libraries: five years ago, there was libc and libX11 and that was it. Four years ago, libncurses, libz and the graphics libraries came along.
I agree with you in that X needs a _much_ better font system. In particular, Netscape only seems to work with bitmapped fonts, which look horrible. Also, many people use Windows at low resolutions---even 640x480x4. At this kind of size, X is unusable. (Thankfully, this doesn't affect me: I am using 1280x1024, and if my monitor would support it, I would run 1600x1200.)
Also, Slackware seems to be lacking a few things in its set of packages... there is no MP3 player/encoder! Also, the only image viewer included with Slackware is XV, which is not free.
Slackware's configuration is its major problem. It is hardly obvious that '/etc/rc.d/rc.modules' contains the sound-card configuration, or that '/etc/rc.d/rc.M' contains as much networking as '/etc/rc.d/rc.inet', or that a load of other silly files scattered in '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/.....' contain the X setup.
On the other hand, Slackware will install on any machine. For example, X doesn't support the S3 Trio3D properly, but will detect it and load a buggy driver. In Red Hat, Caldera and Mandrake, this will cause the system to completely crash either during the install or when it first boots up. The Slackware system doesn't attempt to get X working until everything else is installed and working, and it allows someone with appropriate experience to fix it up (e.g., using the X/FBDev driver).
I first used Slackware almost 5 years ago (downloaded it on a 14400 modem!). The installation hasn't changed very much since then, unlike RedHat (which seems to redesign it every major release). The Slackware installation (and the FreeBSD instalation) is comparatively primitive, but people seem to forget the installation should only have to be done/once/.
Trying to run KDE on a 486 is a recipe for a very slow computer. I don't like saying this, but Windows95 actually runs much faster than KDE/GNOME on older computers.
Does anyone know why Linux desktop systems is astoundingly slow on a 486, but it runs faster than Windows on modern machines?
If you have installed a VB programme (my memory of this was in the Win3.1 days, it may no longer be accurate), it would probably need VBRUN300.DLL. (Most programmes didn't include it because it was large (~500k) and didn't change.)
There were also programmes which required CTL3D.DLL, which became obsolete with Word6 and replaced by CTL3DV2.DLL and then CTL3D32.DLL. Not to mention OLE*.DLL and COMCTL.DLL (which existed in many incompatible versions).
Win4.x games often need DirectX (in various versions) to run properly. And so on.
Because these aren't labelled as "dependencies" (ooh, a nasty long word that the average user won't understand) doesn't mean that they aren't there.
Setting up a Windows machine is not particularly easy, particularly with Windows 3.1 and '95. (I haven't ever installed '98, so I don't know how it compares.)
In fact, installing any operating system on a bare computer and getting all of the hardware to work properly is not easy for a novice. Most Windows systems come pre-installed, with the hardware designed around the available (Microsoft) software.
The average user installs new hardware either by taking their machine back to the shop and paying a tech to do it, or (in the case of Modems, Zippy drives, etc) plugs in the new hardware and sticks in the CD labelled "Hardware Setup for [Company Name]"---which has been specially prepared to make one particular piece of hardware work under Windows. Often, hardware (or software) problems render this useless, anyway.
I have a 486/66 with 16mb running Netscape 3, Enlightenment, Emacs, and a few xterms. It isn't too slow. (The system was originally Slackware 3.1, with heaps of extra stuff compiled from source. On a 486, compiling is slow.)
Don't forget that the 'net and the Web were around before 586s...
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If you link to them using a FRAMESET or an IFRAME, most browsers show the URL of the page with the frame, not the URL of the linked-to page. When you link in a 'normal' manner (using an A HREF tag), the full URL is shown in your browser's location bar and in the status bar when you move your mouse over the link.
Yes, they exist. There was a review of one on Dan's Data a while ago.
--CP.
Sudo is your friend. If you set things up properly, you won't need to have root access for most things.
This restriction only applies to .com.au; there's still .id.au (for individuals), .org.au (only for registered non-profit orgs) and .net.au
The main problem that I have noticed with IE is that the interface is TERRIBLE. The so-called "smooth" scrolling goes in jumps and is extremely slow (on an Athlon 900, RIVA TNT2, 1280x1024x16bit, Windows 4.9). The progress bar displays no useful information whatsoever, and pages seem to load slower in general. And don't get me started about the security problems.
Newton is credited for it because he was better-known a the time. This is the reason that we use Newton's notation rather than Leibniz's in calculus.
KDE is far too slow to be usable in 16mb. (Surprisingly, Enlightenment is actually almost as fast on a 486/66-16mb as on a P2/333-64mb.) It runs quite well on 32mb (which means most computers upgraded within the last 4 years :).
:)
GNOME has always seemed a lot slower. And for some reason I have never had trouble with Netscape crashing. Mozilla, on the other hand, is different
Actually, Slashdot _does_ use cookies to store
your login name and password. From the Mozilla config box:
slashdot.org user="[my login name and password omitted]"
Another important thing to remember is that Netscape (and presumably IE, because Microsoft have copied most of Netscape's other "features") will remember any cookies that you've set in the past, even if you choose to disable them.
On Unix, you have to type "rm -f ~/.netscape/cookies" to permanently destroy them.
There is probably an equivalent on Windows and Mac systems.
If you use Mozilla, you can do "Edit/Prefs/Advanced/Cookies" and tell it to only accept cookies from the site that sent the HTML page (which disables web bugs and doubleclick.net cookies). You can also right-click on images to block them. For example, I have images.slashdot.org and ad.doubleclick.net blocked so I don't see as many ads.
> I find it amusing that this was the last post at thershold 1...
Someone had to prove that last statement wrong.
I have thought this for a while, although I couldn't think of how it could easily be fixed.
If such a thing is ever implemented, though, don't make it brain-damaged like Windows' console app support is: some programmes just disappear if they don't produce any output, which is silly.
Sorry to nit-pick, but the CD was actually invented by Philips.
The Australian equivalent of Oftel is Austel (website: www.austel.gov.au:80). They set the regulations of what equipment is allowed to be connected to the phone lines (all of our phones have "AUSTEL APPROVED PERMIT" on the bottom).
In addition to this, Austel regulates the prices (= stops Telstra from overcharging) and also assigns phone numbers.
... see - no text ...
I also have Slack2.3 -- it was a very nice system for the time. One of the few things that I got annoyed was the X setup: most of the non-alphabetic keys didn't work at all. It had kernel 1.2.8, not 2.2.8...
The slowest kernel compile I have tried was trying to compile a 2.2.x kernel on a 486. That was painful.
Australia has recently had some bad press over stupid legislation, but does it allow software patents? If so, have any been filed? (I'm sorry if I sound ignorant here, but I don't know where to look for such things.)
I agree that glibc6 is extremely bloated (according to the Slackware install, it is ~120 mb!!). The reason that there are two incompatible version of Glibc is because version 2.0.7 was a hacked patch by Debian and RedHat to fix up a beta version so that it would work. I think. The libc6 folks have said that they intend to keep backwards compatability from now on, but since all of the binaries on my machine either came with Slackware or were compiled by myself, this doesn't really affect me.
On the other hand, libc6 comes with some major advantages for people who prefer to speak German/French/whatever else. For example, if you are bored, try this:
LANG=fr cp notexist notexist2
or:
LANG=de mc
Another thing that I dislike is that modern Linux systems tend to breed shared libraries: five years ago, there was libc and libX11 and that was it. Four years ago, libncurses, libz and the graphics libraries came along.
Now, there is libgnome_foo.so, libgnome_bar.so, libImlib.so.1.99.87, libFnlib.so, libMesa, libMesaGL, libImlib_GTK, libGTK, libgdk, libglib, libkde_draw_box, libkde_ok_button, libkde_web_browser, libkde_bloat, libkde_gui, libkde_oops_I_forgot_to_add_this_to_libkde_gui, libguile, libSegmentationFault, libBrokenWozznameThing, libquux, libOrbit, libmico, libgif_for_kde_only, libenlightenment_junk......
The only advantage that I can think of that libc6 has besides internationalisation is that it has built-in threaded everything.
I agree with you in that X needs a _much_ better font system. In particular, Netscape only seems to work with bitmapped fonts, which look horrible. Also, many people use Windows at low resolutions---even 640x480x4. At this kind of size, X is unusable. (Thankfully, this doesn't affect me: I am using 1280x1024, and if my monitor would support it, I would run 1600x1200.)
Also, Slackware seems to be lacking a few things in its set of packages... there is no MP3 player/encoder! Also, the only image viewer included with Slackware is XV, which is not free.
Why is/was the default darkstar.frop.org? I presume it is some kind of Church of Subgenius joke (along with the name "Slackware").
I have Slack 2.3 from 8/95 and 3.1 from some time in '96.
I also have "MCC Interim Linux 1+" -- does anyone know what happened to this, or to Yggdrasil?
Slackware's configuration is its major problem. It is hardly obvious that '/etc/rc.d/rc.modules' contains the sound-card configuration, or that '/etc/rc.d/rc.M' contains as much networking as '/etc/rc.d/rc.inet', or that a load of other silly files scattered in '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/.....' contain the X setup.
/once/.
On the other hand, Slackware will install on any machine. For example, X doesn't support the S3 Trio3D properly, but will detect it and load a buggy driver. In Red Hat, Caldera and Mandrake, this will cause the system to completely crash either during the install or when it first boots up. The Slackware system doesn't attempt to get X working until everything else is installed and working, and it allows someone with appropriate experience to fix it up (e.g., using the X/FBDev driver).
I first used Slackware almost 5 years ago (downloaded it on a 14400 modem!). The installation hasn't changed very much since then, unlike RedHat (which seems to redesign it every major release). The Slackware installation (and the FreeBSD instalation) is comparatively primitive, but people seem to forget the installation should only have to be done
Trying to run KDE on a 486 is a recipe for a very slow computer. I don't like saying this, but Windows95 actually runs much faster than KDE/GNOME on older computers.
Does anyone know why Linux desktop systems is astoundingly slow on a 486, but it runs faster than Windows on modern machines?
No Dependencies?
If you have installed a VB programme (my memory of this was in the Win3.1 days, it may no longer be accurate), it would probably need VBRUN300.DLL. (Most programmes didn't include it because it was large (~500k) and didn't change.)
There were also programmes which required CTL3D.DLL, which became obsolete with Word6 and replaced by CTL3DV2.DLL and then CTL3D32.DLL. Not to mention OLE*.DLL and COMCTL.DLL (which existed in many incompatible versions).
Win4.x games often need DirectX (in various versions) to run properly. And so on.
Because these aren't labelled as "dependencies" (ooh, a nasty long word that the average user won't understand) doesn't mean that they aren't there.
My apologies if this no longer applies.
Setting up a Windows machine is not particularly easy, particularly with Windows 3.1 and '95. (I haven't ever installed '98, so I don't know how it compares.)
In fact, installing any operating system on a bare computer and getting all of the hardware to work properly is not easy for a novice. Most Windows systems come pre-installed, with the hardware designed around the available (Microsoft) software.
The average user installs new hardware either by taking their machine back to the shop and paying a tech to do it, or (in the case of Modems, Zippy drives, etc) plugs in the new hardware and sticks in the CD labelled "Hardware Setup for [Company Name]"---which has been specially prepared to make one particular piece of hardware work under Windows. Often, hardware (or software) problems render this useless, anyway.
I have a 486/66 with 16mb running Netscape 3, Enlightenment, Emacs, and a few xterms. It isn't too slow. (The system was originally Slackware 3.1, with heaps of extra stuff compiled from source. On a 486, compiling is slow.)
Don't forget that the 'net and the Web were around before 586s...