Don't worry my Germans naughbours; it's just a reskinned (and I don't mean reskinned as in the Germen market version) sequal of RTCW and they even managed to make it suck like hell. Your money is better spend elsewhere...
I thought this was turning into a C Vs. C++ but thankfully not:)
So why am I saying C++ can't get to become a mess? Well of source everything can get ugly, true that, but; it will not get to be a horror for coders if they want to make a next version, because; you can simply add a new 'module' and call it from you code. You don't have to deal with linear horror. So I stand corrected, but do you still think what you initially thought?
By bloat I do mean more features. I'll give two examples:
1) A single mother can get a baby in 9 months. Two mothers (more 'bloat') can get two babies in 9 months. The latency is that it requires and extra mother, and it doesn't make you 1 baby in 4,5 months...
2) OpenCL (extra lib; extra space on storage; extra space in RAM; larger drivers, more driver stuff to execute so more 'bloat') can do accomplishes more/time but also adds latency (sending data back and forth from RAM to CPU to GPU RAM to GPU to GPU RAM to CPU to frambuffer.
Microsoft did fire the IE6 team. The new dev team they hired then made IE7 and IE8. Both suck, but at least it's a total improvement over IE6 and it is improving a lot over time. At least they are somewhat trying...
I was talking about the current IE version, IE 8. It has the most complete CSS 2.1 support. That's all there is to it.
I am sorry to be the one to break it down to you, but IE8 has a list of hacks for popular websites to make them work in IE8. Acid tests are on that list.
Bloat is awesome if it makes new hardware do more. The latency is being dealed with by having faster hardware.
Bloat doesn't matter size-wise if there is less to execute (lower level stuff) and you have more RAM so programs also get moved faster out of the RAM, so to speak
Bloat sucks if you don't buy a new PC every 10 years and you still have a 386, but then you can still use that with a 2.24 kernel because there are no known malware for it that anyone is interested in using against you.
So ehm... what is this 'problem' we are talking about? Latency is dealed with by faster hardware and the bloat makes sure more gets done/time...
Managers do not manage code; that is done by code architects. Code architects love C++ and C++ makes sure nothing gets to become a real mess.
Manager do what they do best: manage the work place. Making sure there are people, making sure they come in on time, etc. They make sure coders do what the top brass wants and also makes sure the top brass stays informed so they can make healthy desicions. If there's an unworkable code base than it's the fault of the coders and/or the top brass and not the manager. Maybe the manager fails at doing a proper job but then that's also the fault of the top brass to hire the wrong people in the first place.
I totally disagree with you here. Apple feels 100% different from Microsoft (hell, they even put the minimize, maximize and close icons on the window manager completely on the opposite site) and yet they succeed.
No; you need quality. As Linux user I will be taking a fresh perspective on this from a higher purpose here. First up: Does it even work? The awnser is "NO". Yeah it is comming with Gallium3D bla bla bla but it is comming and it is not here yet. So no-go from graphics (unless you still feel like using a 2D desktop ala 2009) and no-go for OpenCL.
Next stop: "Does it have advantages over the competition?" The awnser is "It's on par". Linux, in an idiot-friendly distro, is not faster and about kind-of as secure as Mac (maybe more, maybe less; only the future will tell us).
Final destination: "Does it out-app the competition?" and the awnser is probably still "No".
So ladies and gentleman: Linux is not ready yet, although I believe it will be kicking serious ass in a year or four.
ROFL. Saving lifes? You mean investing money in companies that make other people sick, and then turn around and spend 5% of their annual earnings on 'saving' these people. Rofl Mirosoft is pure evil in every sence of the word!
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Don't worry my Germans naughbours; it's just a reskinned (and I don't mean reskinned as in the Germen market version) sequal of RTCW and they even managed to make it suck like hell. Your money is better spend elsewhere...
Yeah it's absolutely awesome... untill somebody wants to make a website and it doesn't work anymore...
I thought this was turning into a C Vs. C++ but thankfully not :)
So why am I saying C++ can't get to become a mess? Well of source everything can get ugly, true that, but; it will not get to be a horror for coders if they want to make a next version, because; you can simply add a new 'module' and call it from you code. You don't have to deal with linear horror. So I stand corrected, but do you still think what you initially thought?
For the love of God please either:
1) Don't ship this for Linux, or;
2) Use Qt instead.
By bloat I do mean more features. I'll give two examples:
1) A single mother can get a baby in 9 months. Two mothers (more 'bloat') can get two babies in 9 months. The latency is that it requires and extra mother, and it doesn't make you 1 baby in 4,5 months...
2) OpenCL (extra lib; extra space on storage; extra space in RAM; larger drivers, more driver stuff to execute so more 'bloat') can do accomplishes more/time but also adds latency (sending data back and forth from RAM to CPU to GPU RAM to GPU to GPU RAM to CPU to frambuffer.
You actually think that C99, which is linear, has less change of becoming a horror, than the modular, C++?
Maybe you can come over and perform at my birthday party...
Microsoft did fire the IE6 team. The new dev team they hired then made IE7 and IE8. Both suck, but at least it's a total improvement over IE6 and it is improving a lot over time. At least they are somewhat trying...
It's updated every patch tuesday, you insensitive clod!
The stability of Windows these days is defined by the drivers and the applications. That is, ofcourse, a bad thing.
I was talking about the current IE version, IE 8. It has the most complete CSS 2.1 support. That's all there is to it.
I am sorry to be the one to break it down to you, but IE8 has a list of hacks for popular websites to make them work in IE8. Acid tests are on that list.
The best way to defend it to attack.
You are not depressed, are you?
Otherwise, just ignore my post...
If they slip this plugin with every Googleware installer 'in order for your computer to work with the software' then it's golden.
Well... it sure as hell won't be a patent that Linux will ever infringe on...
Windows bloat in resource wasting... bad
Linux bloat in putting resource to do more stuff... good/less bad
You are absolutley right...
Bloat is awesome if it makes new hardware do more. The latency is being dealed with by having faster hardware.
Bloat doesn't matter size-wise if there is less to execute (lower level stuff) and you have more RAM so programs also get moved faster out of the RAM, so to speak
Bloat sucks if you don't buy a new PC every 10 years and you still have a 386, but then you can still use that with a 2.24 kernel because there are no known malware for it that anyone is interested in using against you.
So ehm... what is this 'problem' we are talking about? Latency is dealed with by faster hardware and the bloat makes sure more gets done/time...
Nothing... Phoronix had a benchmark with BSD and the outcome was that is was slower than Linux... Pwn3Dz0rs!
Which all results in balance. Your point?
Managers do not manage code; that is done by code architects. Code architects love C++ and C++ makes sure nothing gets to become a real mess.
Manager do what they do best: manage the work place. Making sure there are people, making sure they come in on time, etc. They make sure coders do what the top brass wants and also makes sure the top brass stays informed so they can make healthy desicions. If there's an unworkable code base than it's the fault of the coders and/or the top brass and not the manager. Maybe the manager fails at doing a proper job but then that's also the fault of the top brass to hire the wrong people in the first place.
Just waiting for the flamefest here of Linux vs Windows botnets.
Windows botnets controlled by a Linux botnets still makes the Windows botnets Linux' botnets' bitch. Muhahahahahah!!!!!!
I totally disagree with you here. Apple feels 100% different from Microsoft (hell, they even put the minimize, maximize and close icons on the window manager completely on the opposite site) and yet they succeed.
No; you need quality. As Linux user I will be taking a fresh perspective on this from a higher purpose here. First up: Does it even work? The awnser is "NO". Yeah it is comming with Gallium3D bla bla bla but it is comming and it is not here yet. So no-go from graphics (unless you still feel like using a 2D desktop ala 2009) and no-go for OpenCL.
Next stop: "Does it have advantages over the competition?" The awnser is "It's on par". Linux, in an idiot-friendly distro, is not faster and about kind-of as secure as Mac (maybe more, maybe less; only the future will tell us).
Final destination: "Does it out-app the competition?" and the awnser is probably still "No".
So ladies and gentleman: Linux is not ready yet, although I believe it will be kicking serious ass in a year or four.
The entire western society is sick. Governments are corrupt. The economy is headed for an epic fail. Culture is doomed. Food is practically poisoned.
And there aint shit you can do about it...
So imma go grab my coffee and prepare myself for the nine to five -_-'
ROFL. Saving lifes? You mean investing money in companies that make other people sick, and then turn around and spend 5% of their annual earnings on 'saving' these people. Rofl Mirosoft is pure evil in every sence of the word!
Shut up before I inject a script into slashcode and tickle the browser of every /.-er!
Yeah but they do 'fund' Apple, right? Buying some portion of their stock and porting Office to the Mac?