But what you said was flatten out or drop for a few years. When it is pointed out that it has flatten for a decade you now say you need a dramatic drop for 10 to 15 years. If that happened you would then need an Ice Age for a century or so before you felt better.
I have no problems having our companies e-mail and document sharing going through Google. Here is why. Exportability. Google makes it fairly easy to export all of my data. So if Google does ditch any of the services I currently use I can move them. With that in mind for our business needs. Google Docs (Now Drive) and Gmail do a great job while being very flexible with low cost.
You really think that the TSA protects you? You do realize that every time a terrorist has attempted to board a plane with some type of weapon they have succeeded. It has only been device failures and aware passengers that have given us security. Not the TSA. The TSA is there to make the stupid feel safe and get us used to massive governmental authority.
I really hope you are not an American citizen. We really do not need more self absorbed shitheads that stand by and watch as their freedoms are torn from them and their neighbors. I thank God that the real men and women that faced these decisions early in this countries history thought differently than you did. I pray that when faced with this decision myself that I have the strength of my convictions to do the right thing regardless of personal cost. I have faced these decisions in smaller things. I have chosen correctly. It only cost me money and inconvenience. When it costs me my freedom in order to move forward the cause of freedom I can only hope that I do the right thing. No man can know for sure till that moment comes.
The point here is the TSA is nothing but one big hole. They have never prevented anything. Not once. Security came during 9/11. United flight 93. They became different people in the new world. Never again will a bunch of intolerant, backwards, religious thugs take over an aircraft without a major fight. The problem the TSA was created to fix did not exist by the time the TSA was created.
Fuck the TSA. Someone feels up my daughter and I will be ok with the prison time that comes for beating a TSA thug to death. At some point people you have to stand up for freedom or you will lose it completely. Once lost freedom does not come back easily or quickly. You will not live to see it come back.
Yup. For simple things and simple people Linux rocks. Throw a Mint CD in and my Mother in law can have a running linux distro in no time and be checking her email in 30 min. Takes longer than 30 min to do the user setup on an HP machine with the OS already installed.
I can talk to a real person. I can go into the bank between 9 and 5. I can wait in line. I can do my transaction and I can be safe. Or.... I can get money and make transfers whenever I want. I can choose convenience. If I choose the latter then I need to take care with what I am doing.
AGW = Anti-Global-Warming. Man-made climate change = the people who think that man is causing global warming. (Till that pesky decade of non warming happened. Hence now called "Climate Change")
No one will allow nuclear power plants to be built. What renewable energy sources can replace gasoline or diesel? Not electric cars. Battery technology is not even close at this point. Sure you can just allow full government control where they make it illegal to build homes in the burbs. Everyone has to live in the city. In high rises. Then you can go electric. But..... Fuck that. I do not want to live in LA. I want to live somewhere nice. Also the non energy uses of hydrocarbons are HUGE. How are you going to massively curtail hydrocarbon use without taking that out as well? I like your vision. It looks pretty and nice. I just think that it is simplistic and has zero chance of working.
And eventually we, and all complex life will - as the solar system ages. It doesn't matter if we cause our own extinction, eventually the Earth will simply not have the goldilocks conditions for complex life anymore
Humans need to be in space. We need to be able to travel. Once we think we need it it will take to long to get there to be of any use.
Humans will either become extinct or travel to other stars.
Politicians are swayed tow ways. Fund raising to keep their jobs and regulating to give them more power. Maybe I am crazy. But I think that giving politicians the power to regulate in any way the gas I breath out is a mistake. I have never seen the government give up power. I have only seen it take more. When the US government decided that in order to keep people from owning fully automatic machine guns it would tax and regulate them most people thought it was a good idea. If you had told them at the time that the US government would use that to chip away at the then RIGHT to own weapons until you had to fill out forms and get approved to buy them and that some would not be able to be purchased at all because they look cool. You would have been called a fucking nut job. So call me a not job. But giving the US government or a world government regulatory powers over CO2 will lead to a massive erosion of freedoms. How long till you need a permit to bring a third child into the world from the EPA?
I can tell you we do not really know much at all. What percentage of solar radiation does CO2 absorb coming in? What percentage is any is reflected back out by CO2? As the CO2 level rises will the growth rate of plant life increase? If so by how much? And, How will that affect CO2 levels? As temperature rises what systems will be affected and what effect will that have on the CO2 levels? Which ones will lead to increases? Which to decreases? A few of these are known. Most we have some idea of. Some we are looking only at what will become worse and not even looking at what will become better. It is incredibly complicated even for those who dedicate their life to attempting to get some small understanding of how these things work.
The AGW crowd has always thought him a nut. The Man made climate change people were honoring him. Now the AGW crowd is saying that the same guy you honored is now admitting he did not know shit. The man made climate change people are now saying "We have always thought of him as a nut". He was only really ever respected by one side. Now neither.
Does that chart not already show it flatten out and drop a bit in the last decade? At least that is what it looks like to me. Or do you need to see it flatten out for a few decades instead of a few years?
Our current civilization is built upon the ability to have relatively cheap and dense energy. Currently nothing comes close to hydrocarbon based fuels in these areas. That is not even taking into account all the non energy uses for hydrocarbons. Drugs, and Materials. Make all oil disappear tomorrow. You will see a very harsh dismantling.
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So you can give him awards for accomplishment and then tell us he was never a part of the group when he is wrong.
I see.
But what you said was flatten out or drop for a few years.
When it is pointed out that it has flatten for a decade you now say you need a dramatic drop for 10 to 15 years.
If that happened you would then need an Ice Age for a century or so before you felt better.
Though it's hard to say how much oil a bushel of wheat is worth...
Oil 1 Barrel = $104.55
Wheat 1 bushel = $6.35
Not hard.
There are no Journalists left. Only reporters. Those are the guys who print press releases.
I have no problems having our companies e-mail and document sharing going through Google.
Here is why. Exportability.
Google makes it fairly easy to export all of my data. So if Google does ditch any of the services I currently use I can move them.
With that in mind for our business needs. Google Docs (Now Drive) and Gmail do a great job while being very flexible with low cost.
Typically?
I would wager that I have never heard of a White, Suburban, 4 year old girl used as a walking bomb. Never.
You really think that the TSA protects you?
You do realize that every time a terrorist has attempted to board a plane with some type of weapon they have succeeded.
It has only been device failures and aware passengers that have given us security. Not the TSA.
The TSA is there to make the stupid feel safe and get us used to massive governmental authority.
I didn't see it as molestation; we've never had the full new procedure
You do not see what as molestation?
The stuff they do not do anymore or the thing that you have never had?
I really hope you are not an American citizen.
We really do not need more self absorbed shitheads that stand by and watch as their freedoms are torn from them and their neighbors.
I thank God that the real men and women that faced these decisions early in this countries history thought differently than you did.
I pray that when faced with this decision myself that I have the strength of my convictions to do the right thing regardless of personal cost.
I have faced these decisions in smaller things. I have chosen correctly. It only cost me money and inconvenience. When it costs me my freedom in order to move forward the cause of freedom I can only hope that I do the right thing. No man can know for sure till that moment comes.
Remember, you're no good to her dead or in prison.
But you and others like you standing up against clearly wrong, fascist, freedom robbing actions of the government might just help everyone.
The point here is the TSA is nothing but one big hole.
They have never prevented anything. Not once.
Security came during 9/11.
United flight 93. They became different people in the new world.
Never again will a bunch of intolerant, backwards, religious thugs take over an aircraft without a major fight.
The problem the TSA was created to fix did not exist by the time the TSA was created.
Fuck the TSA.
Someone feels up my daughter and I will be ok with the prison time that comes for beating a TSA thug to death.
At some point people you have to stand up for freedom or you will lose it completely.
Once lost freedom does not come back easily or quickly. You will not live to see it come back.
Yup. For simple things and simple people Linux rocks.
Throw a Mint CD in and my Mother in law can have a running linux distro in no time and be checking her email in 30 min.
Takes longer than 30 min to do the user setup on an HP machine with the OS already installed.
We also do not have firemen that stand around while a guy drowns in 3 feet of water.
But with union help we to will get to be just like Europe.
I can talk to a real person.
I can go into the bank between 9 and 5.
I can wait in line. I can do my transaction and I can be safe.
Or.... I can get money and make transfers whenever I want. I can choose convenience.
If I choose the latter then I need to take care with what I am doing.
I thought they were spending all their time now making Muslims feel better about themselves.
AGW = Anti-Global-Warming.
Man-made climate change = the people who think that man is causing global warming. (Till that pesky decade of non warming happened. Hence now called "Climate Change")
Opposite sides of the coin brother.
No one will allow nuclear power plants to be built.
What renewable energy sources can replace gasoline or diesel?
Not electric cars. Battery technology is not even close at this point.
Sure you can just allow full government control where they make it illegal to build homes in the burbs.
Everyone has to live in the city. In high rises. Then you can go electric. But.....
Fuck that. I do not want to live in LA.
I want to live somewhere nice.
Also the non energy uses of hydrocarbons are HUGE.
How are you going to massively curtail hydrocarbon use without taking that out as well?
I like your vision. It looks pretty and nice.
I just think that it is simplistic and has zero chance of working.
And eventually we, and all complex life will - as the solar system ages. It doesn't matter if we cause our own extinction, eventually the Earth will simply not have the goldilocks conditions for complex life anymore
Humans need to be in space.
We need to be able to travel.
Once we think we need it it will take to long to get there to be of any use.
Humans will either become extinct or travel to other stars.
You gave us three things.
Sun Output.
Carbon Dioxide Levels.
and
Albedo Decreasing.
Then you say humans are doing a couple of those things.
Which two?
Politicians are swayed tow ways.
Fund raising to keep their jobs and regulating to give them more power.
Maybe I am crazy. But I think that giving politicians the power to regulate in any way the gas I breath out is a mistake.
I have never seen the government give up power. I have only seen it take more.
When the US government decided that in order to keep people from owning fully automatic machine guns it would tax and regulate them most people thought it was a good idea. If you had told them at the time that the US government would use that to chip away at the then RIGHT to own weapons until you had to fill out forms and get approved to buy them and that some would not be able to be purchased at all because they look cool. You would have been called a fucking nut job.
So call me a not job. But giving the US government or a world government regulatory powers over CO2 will lead to a massive erosion of freedoms.
How long till you need a permit to bring a third child into the world from the EPA?
I can tell you we do not really know much at all.
What percentage of solar radiation does CO2 absorb coming in? What percentage is any is reflected back out by CO2?
As the CO2 level rises will the growth rate of plant life increase? If so by how much? And, How will that affect CO2 levels?
As temperature rises what systems will be affected and what effect will that have on the CO2 levels? Which ones will lead to increases? Which to decreases?
A few of these are known. Most we have some idea of. Some we are looking only at what will become worse and not even looking at what will become better.
It is incredibly complicated even for those who dedicate their life to attempting to get some small understanding of how these things work.
The AGW crowd has always thought him a nut. The Man made climate change people were honoring him.
Now the AGW crowd is saying that the same guy you honored is now admitting he did not know shit.
The man made climate change people are now saying "We have always thought of him as a nut".
He was only really ever respected by one side.
Now neither.
Does that chart not already show it flatten out and drop a bit in the last decade?
At least that is what it looks like to me.
Or do you need to see it flatten out for a few decades instead of a few years?
Our current civilization is built upon the ability to have relatively cheap and dense energy.
Currently nothing comes close to hydrocarbon based fuels in these areas. That is not even taking into account all the non energy uses for hydrocarbons.
Drugs, and Materials. Make all oil disappear tomorrow. You will see a very harsh dismantling.