Re:I am indeed a homosexual.
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IBM Wants Linux
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Why, yes, sir, I would like to make something of it! Meet me at the usual spot... and bring a friend if you like, the more the merrier, if you catch my drift. Just make sure he's legal this time -- I don't think the police believed I was trying to dislodge a chicken stuck in his throat, especially with you behind me, performing the heimlich (sp?) manuever.:-)
Now don't bite trolls, mmkay?
Re:Is there any FreeBSD left on Hotmail?
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Hotmail Hacked
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None of the boxes were cracked. This is an issue with the Hotmail software itself. And I wouldn't be surprised if this "bug" (read: design flaw) predates Microsoft's ownership. After all, if it were a Microsoft bug, it would include a root exploit.:-)
Given that this "bug" simply uses Hotmail's poor design against itself, this doesn't even qualify as "cracking." Thus, Taco's title, "Hotmail Hacked," is perfectly valid.
Life was so much easier for us techies when computers were "difficult" to use. The advent of full-screen editors and shell history has made our life hell. Typical example of this being the brain-dead edit-and-save configuration of complex systems such as an operating system.
The world would be a better place if these luxuries had never been invented.
Give me a box of punch cards, or even ED, over a type-and-slobber interface anyday.
*** Clue to original poster: if it weren't for the GUI, the PC market as it is today wouldn't exist, and you'd still be paying $5000 for a 486. Also, if the GUI didn't exist, GNU/Linux users wouldn't get to gloat about their imagined skills, because they would have to compete with really complex operating systems.
This is very simple... while GNU/Linux may someday reach the level of stability and scalabilty that is AIX's claim to fame, it isn't there yet. AIX was developed from the group up, by IBM, to kick ass on IBM hardware. GNU/Linux was developed by a diverse group of developers -- each with different goals; some wanted a server OS, some wanted a desktop OS -- for cheapo x86 hardware. GNU/Linux's appearance in enterprise IT and scientific computing was a fluke... but a particularly lucky one.
But assuming that GNU/Linux can evolve to an acceptable level (the level of UNIX, in other words), and assuming that the support from IBM, HP, Sun, and Compaq continues, we'll be in a great position. One of the promises of UNIX was portability; if five commercial UNIXs have a common interface, they should be easy to port between, right?
Wrong... years of corporate specialization and AT&T's rightful protection of the system have created a computing culture which is almost as closed as Microsoft's. Now, porting an application from Solaris to HP-UX can potentially take as long as porting from Solaris to NT.
Enter GNU/Linux. Stallman, Torvalds, and the rest of the usual suspects essentially ripped off AT&T. (It's crucial that you understand this. While those developers can be thanked for the GNU/Linux implementation, the design and archiecture is stolen-- albeit modifed -- IP.) GNU/Linux is UNIX-like, but is also completely open. Thus, if Linux can meet these corporate giants' needs, they should adopt it.
IBM's adoption of Linux for the enterprise will mean many things. It will mean that RS/6000 customers like myself will get new software faster, because Linux is always ahead of AIX on software developers' port lists. And if Linux can also run reasonably on Sun and HP hardware, then we could be talking about UNIX's dream of portability, embodied in GNU/Linux: an open, common interface for hardcore RISC systems. This would be a good thing for everybody expect supporters of inferior x86 servers: x86 hardware vendors and Microsoft.
But while GNU/Linux has brought this uptopia one step closer, it isn't here yet. Talk to any knowledgable, experienced developer or sysadmin, and he will tell you that GNU/Linux simply can't touch UNIX for the majority of serious computing tasks. Linux is cheaper, and in some instances is faster, but just can't deliver the same kind of scalable performance and rock-solid availabilty that are the reasons I'm running AIX right now.
I was given one of these by an ex-girlfriend. Even at the time, I wasn't very enthusiastic. The ex originally intended for me to keep it at work. Sorry; at the time, it wasn't my style.
It's been two years since. The girlfriend is gone, but the 'Sphere remains.
It has fallen off my desk four times. I live in a dank hole filled with computers, books, DVDs, and soda cans -- no natural light. Currently, the 'Sphere is sitting in front of my router, surrounded by CD cases and half-drunk Red Bulls. The room tempature drops to about 60F in winter, and exceeds 100F in summer. I have almost no ventilation.
Despite all of this, one of the three original little orange things (WTF are they? Brine shrimp, right?) is still alive. He must be a tough little bugger. Or maybe he just thrives in such an environment, like I do.
But I've never been pushed off a desk.
To be honest, sometimes I wish he wasn't there, so I could throw the damned thing away. (Constant reminder of the ex.) But I don't have enough heart to bring it into work one day and drop it off the roof.
They are even more low maintenance than the "sea monkey" products. And because the 'Sphere is sealed, you don't have to worry about it spilling. A coworker used to have some sea monkeys, but the third time that someone accidentally knowed the SMCU (sea monkey containment unit) off his bookshelf, the monkeys didn't survive.
Oh, come on, I was just kidding. NT Workstation, NT Server, RH Workstation, RH Server... one of the joys of GNU/Linux is the lack of such distinctions. Decide you want to run ten websites off your desktop PC? Linux won't stop you. But Red Hat is cleary released with Windows users in mind, and wants them to have a familiar environment.
That's like putting a monkey in front of a computer and waiting until it programs an editor: highly probable, if you are willing to wait a few thousand years.
Notice that the "server" and "workstation" configurations themselves are Microsoft-isms.:-)
The problem with Red Hat is that it emulates all of Windows' poor security -- without emulating the excellent user interface, extensive component support, and server libraries/interfaces. Red Hat is, literally, the worst of GNU/Linux combined with the worst of Windows 98. No thank you!
This guy knows what he's talking about. He admins a Sun box, hosting about 120 sites, and in the past year and some odd months that I've been on this box, it has only been down once, and that was for a planned hardware upgrade.
(Hi Duane!)
And, of course, he's right. And I happen to think that a lot of the blame lies in NT's "ease of use." I hate to sound elitist, but there are a lot of people running IIS that have no fucking business administrating a webserver, but NT makes it easy... so we get into situations like we're in today where thousands of NT boxes are running, unpatched and poorly configured, because the "admins" are clueless. I'm not saying that all NT people are clueless, but because NT is easier to use, there's a much, much larger percentage of morons running NT servers.
Case in point: A company called FrontServe offers Window hosting. I wonder if he has any idea that those are Sun boxes in that photo. This fucktard also has Alliare JRun installed... with all projects in the same namespace, so that anyone can delete anyone's website, and mapping servlets to your site's document root is impossible. FrontServe is a prime example of a moron with an NT box loaded with software that he doesn't understand.
In the UNIX world, such a situation could never happen, because a basic level of computing and networking knowledge is required to even set up Apache. I worry that dumbed-down clones like GNU/Linux will change this, but for the time being, you can still rest assured that your UNIX admin isn't some sort of FrontServe guy.
This is a typical response from someone who doesn't know anything about UNIX. All mainstream commercial UNIX systems are light-years ahead of GNU/Linux, especially for the types of hardcore hardware which IBM, HP, SUN, and SGI sell. Yes, you can run GNU/Linux on most of these systems, but no one wants too. Linux has a long way to go before it is to be taken seriously on non-toy (non x86) machines.
The only market which GNU/Linux has knocked is the cheap-ass x86 cluster market. Not that there's anything wrong with this market; my employer is in the process of migrating an RS/6000 farm to x86. We'll save money and not sacrifice any performance, because our computing tasks didn't require that kind of hardware in the first place. But when you're doing real computing work, the type that can really take advantage of IBM's CPUs or SGI's memory architecture, there's no way you're going to use GNU/Linux. These UNIX systems are created and optimized for industrial RISC hardware; Linux is a cheap x86 toy with a big ego and a lot of poorly performing "ports." It's not surprising that UNIX is still used by those who know what they're doing and have access to awesome hardware.
The GFX industry doesn't really need the things that SGI, IBM, SUN, and HP have to offer. Their computing tasks aren't insignificant -- but they're so simple and easily parallelized that GNU/Linux on x86 just makes sense. It's cheap, fast, and it works. The big RISC companies are going to lose a lot of business in the next few years as people realize that you don't need sweet hardware for most computing. But UNIX on real computers will still have its place, and this place will probably never be touched by GNU/Linux.
A very knowledgable English historian once told me that the practice of putting punctuation inside quotes is an American innovation, which started during the production of the first American dictionary after the Revolutionary War. Americans was trying to distance herself from jolly old England -- IIRC, European publications still place puctuation outside of quotations.
As stupid as it sounds, Americans should put their puctuation inside quotations. Especially if anything you write is connected with the government... you want to be viewed as a patriot, right?
The converse is also true. All of you flamey anti-US types should put your punctuation outside of quotations, just to stick it to the man. Fuck us for being the leaders of the world, right?
(Now for the moderators dilemma: Flamebait, Funny, Interesting, or Informative? Or, since there must be a perfectly logical reason why I post at -1 -- it couldn't be that fabled Slashdot censorship, right? -- maybe I'm a Troll?)
that this is just a sinister ploy to increase game sales. And remember, kids, RMS says that making money developing software is bad. The only way to be truly Free is,
Give away all your possesions except a tie-die t-shirt, some flip-flops, and a pair of moth-eaten bicycle shorts;
Grow a beard -- yes, even the ladies;
Live under the couch in the student lounge of your choice, eating only LSD and Cheetos;
Sneak into library computer labs at night, install GNU/Linux on all computers, and program freeware for all of your hippy friends;
And finally, decry all who oppose you as "bourgeois, capitalist pigs."
This is the true path to Freedom. It worked for RMS, and it worked for Charlie Manson, at least until he killed all those people. So don't buy Loki games, kids -- Loki deserves to burn, for the crime of accepting money for software!
Remember the Bart Simpson craze in the early 90s? The dolls, t-shirts, posters and all the rest? I actually had the Bartman/Deep Deep Trouble album on cassette... god, that seems so fucking lame now.:-)
It speaks volumes about the strength of the show that it was able to live on for so many years after the merchandise stopped being profitable.
To: bugtraq@security-focus.com
From: freegaysex@openbsd.org
On 9 June 2001, someone whined:
> and then I found the hole. It was a
>> remarkably easy exploit, actually, and I now
>> wonder just how thorough the "code audit"
>> was. Perhaps Theo should take a more open stance
>> and let more people into the development
>> process.
Hey, fuck you buddy! I don't want scum like you NEAR my software! Mine! In fact the next release will query my personal server and automatically wipe your disk if it detects your email or IP. Man, I am so going to go outside and break bottle against trees in my anger! Oooh!
Slashdot Mirror
Why, yes, sir, I would like to make something of it! Meet me at the usual spot... and bring a friend if you like, the more the merrier, if you catch my drift. Just make sure he's legal this time -- I don't think the police believed I was trying to dislodge a chicken stuck in his throat, especially with you behind me, performing the heimlich (sp?) manuever. :-)
Now don't bite trolls, mmkay?
Given that this "bug" simply uses Hotmail's poor design against itself, this doesn't even qualify as "cracking." Thus, Taco's title, "Hotmail Hacked," is perfectly valid.
-- The_Messenger
Wow, I sure like the new Slashcode... it allows us to easily separate interesting, informative links [scientificamerican.com] from complete trash. Cool.
The world would be a better place if these luxuries had never been invented.
Give me a box of punch cards, or even ED, over a type-and-slobber interface anyday.
*** Clue to original poster: if it weren't for the GUI, the PC market as it is today wouldn't exist, and you'd still be paying $5000 for a 486. Also, if the GUI didn't exist, GNU/Linux users wouldn't get to gloat about their imagined skills, because they would have to compete with really complex operating systems.
But assuming that GNU/Linux can evolve to an acceptable level (the level of UNIX, in other words), and assuming that the support from IBM, HP, Sun, and Compaq continues, we'll be in a great position. One of the promises of UNIX was portability; if five commercial UNIXs have a common interface, they should be easy to port between, right?
Wrong... years of corporate specialization and AT&T's rightful protection of the system have created a computing culture which is almost as closed as Microsoft's. Now, porting an application from Solaris to HP-UX can potentially take as long as porting from Solaris to NT.
Enter GNU/Linux. Stallman, Torvalds, and the rest of the usual suspects essentially ripped off AT&T. (It's crucial that you understand this. While those developers can be thanked for the GNU/Linux implementation, the design and archiecture is stolen-- albeit modifed -- IP.) GNU/Linux is UNIX-like, but is also completely open. Thus, if Linux can meet these corporate giants' needs, they should adopt it.
IBM's adoption of Linux for the enterprise will mean many things. It will mean that RS/6000 customers like myself will get new software faster, because Linux is always ahead of AIX on software developers' port lists. And if Linux can also run reasonably on Sun and HP hardware, then we could be talking about UNIX's dream of portability, embodied in GNU/Linux: an open, common interface for hardcore RISC systems. This would be a good thing for everybody expect supporters of inferior x86 servers: x86 hardware vendors and Microsoft.
But while GNU/Linux has brought this uptopia one step closer, it isn't here yet. Talk to any knowledgable, experienced developer or sysadmin, and he will tell you that GNU/Linux simply can't touch UNIX for the majority of serious computing tasks. Linux is cheaper, and in some instances is faster, but just can't deliver the same kind of scalable performance and rock-solid availabilty that are the reasons I'm running AIX right now.
And they're supposed to take advice from rapid Open Sores anti-business children on Slashdot who can't spell "sense?" :-) I agree with the AC.
Excuse me, sir, but I think you've been trolled. Sir.
It's been two years since. The girlfriend is gone, but the 'Sphere remains.
It has fallen off my desk four times. I live in a dank hole filled with computers, books, DVDs, and soda cans -- no natural light. Currently, the 'Sphere is sitting in front of my router, surrounded by CD cases and half-drunk Red Bulls. The room tempature drops to about 60F in winter, and exceeds 100F in summer. I have almost no ventilation.
Despite all of this, one of the three original little orange things (WTF are they? Brine shrimp, right?) is still alive. He must be a tough little bugger. Or maybe he just thrives in such an environment, like I do.
But I've never been pushed off a desk.
To be honest, sometimes I wish he wasn't there, so I could throw the damned thing away. (Constant reminder of the ex.) But I don't have enough heart to bring it into work one day and drop it off the roof.
They are even more low maintenance than the "sea monkey" products. And because the 'Sphere is sealed, you don't have to worry about it spilling. A coworker used to have some sea monkeys, but the third time that someone accidentally knowed the SMCU (sea monkey containment unit) off his bookshelf, the monkeys didn't survive.
So, yes, buy an Ecosphere. They last.
Oh, I remember! Mountain Dew!
Oh, come on, I was just kidding. NT Workstation, NT Server, RH Workstation, RH Server... one of the joys of GNU/Linux is the lack of such distinctions. Decide you want to run ten websites off your desktop PC? Linux won't stop you. But Red Hat is cleary released with Windows users in mind, and wants them to have a familiar environment.
The problem with Red Hat is that it emulates all of Windows' poor security -- without emulating the excellent user interface, extensive component support, and server libraries/interfaces. Red Hat is, literally, the worst of GNU/Linux combined with the worst of Windows 98. No thank you!
(Hi Duane!)
And, of course, he's right. And I happen to think that a lot of the blame lies in NT's "ease of use." I hate to sound elitist, but there are a lot of people running IIS that have no fucking business administrating a webserver, but NT makes it easy... so we get into situations like we're in today where thousands of NT boxes are running, unpatched and poorly configured, because the "admins" are clueless. I'm not saying that all NT people are clueless, but because NT is easier to use, there's a much, much larger percentage of morons running NT servers.
Case in point: A company called FrontServe offers Window hosting. I wonder if he has any idea that those are Sun boxes in that photo. This fucktard also has Alliare JRun installed... with all projects in the same namespace, so that anyone can delete anyone's website, and mapping servlets to your site's document root is impossible. FrontServe is a prime example of a moron with an NT box loaded with software that he doesn't understand.
In the UNIX world, such a situation could never happen, because a basic level of computing and networking knowledge is required to even set up Apache. I worry that dumbed-down clones like GNU/Linux will change this, but for the time being, you can still rest assured that your UNIX admin isn't some sort of FrontServe guy.
The only market which GNU/Linux has knocked is the cheap-ass x86 cluster market. Not that there's anything wrong with this market; my employer is in the process of migrating an RS/6000 farm to x86. We'll save money and not sacrifice any performance, because our computing tasks didn't require that kind of hardware in the first place. But when you're doing real computing work, the type that can really take advantage of IBM's CPUs or SGI's memory architecture, there's no way you're going to use GNU/Linux. These UNIX systems are created and optimized for industrial RISC hardware; Linux is a cheap x86 toy with a big ego and a lot of poorly performing "ports." It's not surprising that UNIX is still used by those who know what they're doing and have access to awesome hardware.
The GFX industry doesn't really need the things that SGI, IBM, SUN, and HP have to offer. Their computing tasks aren't insignificant -- but they're so simple and easily parallelized that GNU/Linux on x86 just makes sense. It's cheap, fast, and it works. The big RISC companies are going to lose a lot of business in the next few years as people realize that you don't need sweet hardware for most computing. But UNIX on real computers will still have its place, and this place will probably never be touched by GNU/Linux.
As stupid as it sounds, Americans should put their puctuation inside quotations. Especially if anything you write is connected with the government... you want to be viewed as a patriot, right?
The converse is also true. All of you flamey anti-US types should put your punctuation outside of quotations, just to stick it to the man. Fuck us for being the leaders of the world, right?
(Now for the moderators dilemma: Flamebait, Funny, Interesting, or Informative? Or, since there must be a perfectly logical reason why I post at -1 -- it couldn't be that fabled Slashdot censorship, right? -- maybe I'm a Troll?)
- Give away all your possesions except a tie-die t-shirt, some flip-flops, and a pair of moth-eaten bicycle shorts;
- Grow a beard -- yes, even the ladies;
- Live under the couch in the student lounge of your choice, eating only LSD and Cheetos;
- Sneak into library computer labs at night, install GNU/Linux on all computers, and program freeware for all of your hippy friends;
- And finally, decry all who oppose you as "bourgeois, capitalist pigs."
This is the true path to Freedom. It worked for RMS, and it worked for Charlie Manson, at least until he killed all those people. So don't buy Loki games, kids -- Loki deserves to burn, for the crime of accepting money for software!--
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It speaks volumes about the strength of the show that it was able to live on for so many years after the merchandise stopped being profitable.
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You're further proving my theory that Slashdotters' hostility can be chalked up to child abuse of a sexual nature.
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