in other words: ignorance is bliss. thinking happy thoughts to make yourself
happy unfortunately has little correlation w/ the depravity of the world
outside your two cubic liters of gray matter. the trick is to obtain
awareness and yet maintain happiness.
in a true bazaar, everyone has write access to the shared source. the article asks for examples of such a project, to which we can point the wiki-class systems. whether or not these are successful in achieving their stated goals, i dunno, but it seems like they do exhibit some forms of self-organization.
however, although organization may arise from chaos, good management is more than mere organization. it is the application of organization towards specific goals. this article points out that the requirement of such application is orthogonal to the source code fungibility, which, once again, underlines the difficulty of cultivating good leadership.
when goodness is lost, there is kindness. when kindness is lost, there is love. when love is lost, there is justice. a true bazaar is just, and no more. this is because it is impossible to expect from everyone compatible expressions of even love. the real world is beautiful like this.
ok, if we want to turn to technology, why not write the Legal Expert AI?
this (largish) bit of code needs to analyze case histories and recognize
patterns well enough to be able to synthesize prescriptive remedies. if good
enough, we could elect it president...
people have been meta moderating w/ comments like "information wants to be free" since before 1984, since before the julian calendar, since before the invention of money. communication happens. go soak your head in some history books.
88.3fm on the boom box, a flickering candle, a glass of apple juice,
tilty chair, occasional mingling w/ my SO (sometimes on the tilty chair:-), laptop running emacs, xterms (or whatever the gnome equiavalent is)
ssh'ed (or ktelnet'ed) everywhere, ocean breeze keeping things cool on
the deck.
power of two does not span reality
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ah yes another brat slurping at the bandwidth jizz. thanks for being illustrative of the very topic at hand. it's ok, i know how it feels.
i always thought it was a "squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares" type relationship, substituting "free software" for "squares" and "open source software" for "rectangles". conflating these terms as synonums is sick and wrong, not to mention sloppy.
it seems the obvious charity, the one that helped get all of this stuff going and continued to work towards freedoms of all people, would be GNU. they could use your help.
(rant) uh, moderators, why does that have "informative"? what factual payload boggled in your brain enough so that you considered yourself informed? if being informed of opinions counts as "informative", every fscking post is informative. yeesh, get a clue!
(to the original author) "weird definition"? hah, you should talk to the moderators! the point is, everything besides code is subject to interpretation (and even some code is questionable, have you ever casually browsed other people's C++ -- spit spit), and the article demonstrates this nicely. feel free to stick your head in the sand, but i think the article is rather germaine. whether you call them "weakness" or "issues", the crux of the matter comes down to indirect control through distribution terms and now that distribution is a many-hued concept, control may suffer.
wheeee. why can't you people learn to enjoy jobs like gardening -- we need more gardeners, not agents.
face it, you are fighting demediation and societal atomization. in one of the responses you said "fairly" (insert butt-head laughter here). now please define that considering these two trends. can't? do your investors know you are FOS?
why don't you do everyone a favor and take the scads of money you've already "seriously" scammed from johnnie-come-lately dupes and invest in some training to be a programmer yourself. then at least you get some respect (from us hos, at least:-).
it's like stephenson writes in diamond age. sandwich a weak spread-spectrum transmitter between a watch battery and a 32x32 lcd. glue on pressure-sensitive board. the diode diagrams dance, the people poke, literacy is lost.
attachment of one thing (perhaps yourself) to another thing (perhaps a belief) is all fine and good. the trick is to do it in a fine and good way each time. if you #define your attachments, you become brittle. dynamic binding requires more effort but allows flexibility. you need flexibility to enjoy life.
for a small fee (coke and an account on the computer club linux box), i would be glad to visit a san diego area high school and spew real world programmer stories, etc. there are many people who hold similar views -- all you need to do is invite them and keep the coke flowing.
remember that teachers above all want to leave a lasting impression. the speakers you invite should all agree to consult for the teacher on a long term basis so that the teacher is strengthened by the interaction as well as the students.
in this way, everyone who knows something and shares it is a teacher, and those who learn something useful is a student. the GPL is quite favorable to this outlook.
after you invite me to your school, don't forget to insist on a collaboration. doing some programming is, after all, the reward for learning about programming. (but don't ask me about C++!)
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in other words: ignorance is bliss. thinking happy thoughts to make yourself happy unfortunately has little correlation w/ the depravity of the world outside your two cubic liters of gray matter. the trick is to obtain awareness and yet maintain happiness.
you missed your opportunity to teach people how to behave by example. oh well.
however, although organization may arise from chaos, good management is more than mere organization. it is the application of organization towards specific goals. this article points out that the requirement of such application is orthogonal to the source code fungibility, which, once again, underlines the difficulty of cultivating good leadership.
when goodness is lost, there is kindness. when kindness is lost, there is love. when love is lost, there is justice. a true bazaar is just, and no more. this is because it is impossible to expect from everyone compatible expressions of even love. the real world is beautiful like this.
what a thing is called is not the thing.
point taken, but sometimes the job is wrong and so writing the right right involves writing the right wrong, aka hacking.
great programs come from great programmers, who are lucky to be great.
zen is not obscure.
yes, YOU are a zen master!
(although ignorant.)
people have been meta moderating w/ comments like "information wants to be free" since before 1984, since before the julian calendar, since before the invention of money. communication happens. go soak your head in some history books.
fool! functional programming can be done in any language. you get the "elmer award" for your fudliness.
ah yes another brat slurping at the bandwidth jizz. thanks for being illustrative of the very topic at hand. it's ok, i know how it feels.
i always thought it was a "squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares" type relationship, substituting "free software" for "squares" and "open source software" for "rectangles". conflating these terms as synonums is sick and wrong, not to mention sloppy.
it seems the obvious charity, the one that helped get all of this stuff going and continued to work towards freedoms of all people, would be GNU. they could use your help.
(to the original author) "weird definition"? hah, you should talk to the moderators! the point is, everything besides code is subject to interpretation (and even some code is questionable, have you ever casually browsed other people's C++ -- spit spit), and the article demonstrates this nicely. feel free to stick your head in the sand, but i think the article is rather germaine. whether you call them "weakness" or "issues", the crux of the matter comes down to indirect control through distribution terms and now that distribution is a many-hued concept, control may suffer.
silly emacser, check out the semantic bovinator by eric ludlum.
"bad" from wasted words follow syntax 'til you bleed sweet strong blind rushing
life ends so quickly
leaves rustle, anticipate
carbon circles roll
a small insect, i
buzz through the leaves, eyes open
each breeze a teacher
code wake, wake and code
swarming alarming, farming
pollen for all leaves
beautiful trees grow
drowsy sleep, temporary
night. we die we live
face it, you are fighting demediation and societal atomization. in one of the responses you said "fairly" (insert butt-head laughter here). now please define that considering these two trends. can't? do your investors know you are FOS?
why don't you do everyone a favor and take the scads of money you've already "seriously" scammed from johnnie-come-lately dupes and invest in some training to be a programmer yourself. then at least you get some respect (from us hos, at least :-).
because C++ rehab doesn't take that long. the world will probably be cured by then.
thi
(why is the vernacular "or" exclusive?)
thi
for newcomers, check out Anarchism Triumphant: Free Software and the Death of Copyright by Eben Moglen.
remember that teachers above all want to leave a lasting impression. the speakers you invite should all agree to consult for the teacher on a long term basis so that the teacher is strengthened by the interaction as well as the students.
in this way, everyone who knows something and shares it is a teacher, and those who learn something useful is a student. the GPL is quite favorable to this outlook.
after you invite me to your school, don't forget to insist on a collaboration. doing some programming is, after all, the reward for learning about programming. (but don't ask me about C++!)