There aren't... these statistics are about housewives chatting on IRC or doing regular Web surfing. Just because Joe Redneck can browse the web, it does not mean he's a geek.
> if you line up spirit and opportunity side by side they look like a trailer park
That's why we need manned missions! When a rover dies, who will take off the wheels & put it on cinderblocks in the front yard? Where will all the old appliances come from?
Just like Wal-Mart in the States. The sheer quantity they buy (and agreements with your local Recording Industry probably) lowers the initial purchase price by more than it costs to do their own distribution.
> If I want a copy of the record I (see I do do it) can actually record them to the hard drive if i want to and them split the album into individual songs.
Isn't that technically illegal to make MP3s of albums you already own? Or is that just CDs? Or maybe I could just notice that you have a.uk address. So, anyone know American law well enough to tell me?
> first you talked about what you think. Then you used the word feel.
What do you use to think? What do you use to feel? Ostensibly, your brain on both. Are you a being, or are you just a collection of cells, tissue, and microorganisms? When you say "I think," you are stating an opinion which, IOW, is how you feel. They are exactly the same, semantic troll.
> Props to these guys for sticking up for whats right.
It depends on your definition of "right," but that's not my point.
I think it's similar to the ideas that started around the time of code red -- rewrite the virus to uninstall the real one & put in patches to fix the problem. It's using questionable techniques to make an impact on a problem that exists (in their opinion).
Akin, but not the same, and not illegal in the way you describe. The missing thing in this is the cops. These guys are taking no legal action, and AFAIK not handing this over to Law Enforcement Junkies.
> However, since my software rebukes the downloader for downloading a file that appeared to be a crack, it is a Trojan and a danger to the peoples of the free world.
In my opinion, you are free to record what IP addresses download from you, and even post statistics and all records about the downloads. The ONLY thing I object to is putting the IP addresses up an the Web for everyone to see. If you took that one line out of each entry, almost all valid arguments against you would disappear immediately. Although, the point is rather moot since the site is down anyway.
The Location & maybe date/time, OTOH could be very useful data.
> If we don't regulate ourselves, the government will.
I'm not supporting the flamebait AC, but yeah, "This is about the stupidest argument I've ever heard..."
Assuming your post was on topic, you are saying these guys should not have done this because of "self-regulation." How the heck do you know that these guys DON'T "self-regulate," but didn't think this would fall under the category of things not to do? Your version of "self-regulation" only applies to those whose opinions mirror yours.
In essence, everyone "self-regulates," but their opinions on the limits of that regulation vary VERY widely from one person to the next.
While you may be legally correct, that's pretty stupid. If I know it's not pot, I'm not intending to sell pot. I'm intending to fuck this guy over. If some kid asked me for alcohol & I gave him orange juice, telling him it's a screwdriver, can I be arrested for "Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor?" Of course not, but since MJ is "evil," it is given completely different rules. Stupid.
> Let people have two votes, one of which must be given to a Local Representative and one to someone standing as a national. After all everyone belongs to both communities.
Except residents of Washington DC, but no one cares what they think anyway.
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> If there are so many geeky girls out there
There aren't... these statistics are about housewives chatting on IRC or doing regular Web surfing. Just because Joe Redneck can browse the web, it does not mean he's a geek.
> LOL OMG BBQ
/. and this made me laugh the loudest... strange.
All the lame jokes on
> if you line up spirit and opportunity side by side they look like a trailer park
That's why we need manned missions! When a rover dies, who will take off the wheels & put it on cinderblocks in the front yard? Where will all the old appliances come from?
> On Earth the rednecks probe YOU as well
Cue the Deliverance music...
> why don't we see Halloween type leaks from inside the RIAA/MPAA? Does no-one in there care enough? Do they not use email?
Or are they just smart enough to not toss memos with illegal admissions all around the office.
Or maybe the employees know they will disappear if they leak something like that. The RIAA could have cameras in every cubicle, you know.
> Dunno how it works, but it works.
Just like Wal-Mart in the States. The sheer quantity they buy (and agreements with your local Recording Industry probably) lowers the initial purchase price by more than it costs to do their own distribution.
> If I want a copy of the record I (see I do do it) can actually record them to the hard drive if i want to and them split the album into individual songs.
.uk address. So, anyone know American law well enough to tell me?
Isn't that technically illegal to make MP3s of albums you already own? Or is that just CDs? Or maybe I could just notice that you have a
> first you talked about what you think. Then you used the word feel.
What do you use to think? What do you use to feel? Ostensibly, your brain on both. Are you a being, or are you just a collection of cells, tissue, and microorganisms? When you say "I think," you are stating an opinion which, IOW, is how you feel. They are exactly the same, semantic troll.
> the radio stations are own by a tiny handful of companies and have virtually the same format.
You mean "owned by ONE company (Clear Channel) and have EXACTLY the same format."
> Well, I was going to blame it on Norah Jones, but...
Wow, she bought enough CDs to make the ARIA profitable? She must have blown every cent she had! Speaking of blows, heard any of her albums?
> Even further (the ultimate sin): anti capitalistic terrorism.
Or the ultimate ultimate result: people enjoying music.
> Of course, L. Ron Hubbard had some interesting methods for managing his best-sellerness...
Similar to the Bible -- why is it the all-time best selling book? "Buy this book or suffer an eternity in hell!"
> Props to these guys for sticking up for whats right.
It depends on your definition of "right," but that's not my point.
I think it's similar to the ideas that started around the time of code red -- rewrite the virus to uninstall the real one & put in patches to fix the problem. It's using questionable techniques to make an impact on a problem that exists (in their opinion).
> It is akin to a sting operation
Akin, but not the same, and not illegal in the way you describe. The missing thing in this is the cops. These guys are taking no legal action, and AFAIK not handing this over to Law Enforcement Junkies.
> Sounds like a couple of guys who wrote a crappy shareware program,
Wow, most people don't read the article, fine, but you didn't even read the summary! Wow, what amazing ignorance. You give atheists a bad name.
> However, since my software rebukes the downloader for downloading a file that appeared to be a crack, it is a Trojan and a danger to the peoples of the free world.
In my opinion, you are free to record what IP addresses download from you, and even post statistics and all records about the downloads. The ONLY thing I object to is putting the IP addresses up an the Web for everyone to see. If you took that one line out of each entry, almost all valid arguments against you would disappear immediately. Although, the point is rather moot since the site is down anyway.
The Location & maybe date/time, OTOH could be very useful data.
> If we don't regulate ourselves, the government will.
I'm not supporting the flamebait AC, but yeah, "This is about the stupidest argument I've ever heard..."
Assuming your post was on topic, you are saying these guys should not have done this because of "self-regulation." How the heck do you know that these guys DON'T "self-regulate," but didn't think this would fall under the category of things not to do? Your version of "self-regulation" only applies to those whose opinions mirror yours.
In essence, everyone "self-regulates," but their opinions on the limits of that regulation vary VERY widely from one person to the next.
> The EFF says the vigilantes may [also] be committing a crime.
Missing disclaimer: Poster is an idiot. What a worthless post.
> yeah, it's intent to supply
While you may be legally correct, that's pretty stupid. If I know it's not pot, I'm not intending to sell pot. I'm intending to fuck this guy over. If some kid asked me for alcohol & I gave him orange juice, telling him it's a screwdriver, can I be arrested for "Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor?" Of course not, but since MJ is "evil," it is given completely different rules. Stupid.
> The campus can't convience the public that there is no reason for concern
Could that be because there IS reason for concern? Isn't that exactly what this article is saying?
> Let people have two votes, one of which must be given to a Local Representative and one to someone standing as a national. After all everyone belongs to both communities.
Except residents of Washington DC, but no one cares what they think anyway.
> All a concerned citizen would have to do is compare his number with that on the list, to make sure it recorded his vote properly.
Or your local union boss can get your number at gunpoint to verify that you voted a straight Democrat ticket.
> Why should a business executive expect an IT employee, whatever their salary may be, to actively care about keeping things up
Why should they expect any employee at all to do their job? Because it's what you are paid to do. If you don't do it, ideally, you stop getting paid.
> my testosterone mutated voicebox once that poison has done its work
You, SIR (do you have a cock? Then it's sir) are a fucking idiot.
> prefered when the Illiminati ran the country!
Wow, what a horrible site. When someone claims the Y2K bug was a conspiracy, they've got problems.