:Having relatively recently graduated from
:college
First, note lack of experience in real world.
:Most of my group experiences involved maybe
:half of the group caring about their grade,
:and the other half being ok with a C. You
:then end up with an extremely unbalanced
:work load as the ones who care the most do
:the most and produce the better product.
:Then they usually have to go around and fix
:up the people's work who really didn't care
:as much.
Second, note what has been learned.
:All in all, it rarely leads to a
:produtive group and doesn't teach you much
:about the work force.
Third, note conclusion.
I would argue that your experiences in a group actually have taught you a *TREMENDOUS* amount about what the work force is like. You just haven't had to experience it yet.
:)
Wait until those former co-students are co-workers, and your group doesn't get its bonuses because you weren't able to fix all of the code the moron sitting beside you managed to type up between his AIM chat sessions.
The linked MSNBC story has pretty much all the information you need to know, as far as history goes. The interesting thing is what has happened in the the last week or so.
The CEO of Northpoint, Elizabeth Fetter, released a statement through their website (http://www.northpointcom.com/) on March 22 indicating that a network shutdown was going to happen at any time, and that subscribers should seek service elsewhere immediately.
Unfortunately, no major news organizations really picked up the news until later the next day (a Friday), with the end result being that many people didn't even find out about the news until Monday of this week.
Additionally, because Northpoint waited so long to contact its re-sellers (MSN & such), those resellers weren't able to notify thier customers until Friday at the earliest. For the business customers, many didn't find out what was happening until they got snail mail on Monday of this week informing them that their service was about to go kaput.
As to why Northpoint didn't give more forewarning, perhaps someone else can say. What I do know is that there are a LOT of DSL resellers out there that are hoppin' mad at Northpoint, because they are the ones that are about to lose business from their customers. Many forever, as customers move over to cable modems or fractional T1s after having been burned by thier DSL experiences.
Watch for companies heavily dependant on Northpoint for DSL re-selling to scramble mightily in the next few days - I wouldn't be surprised if some just went out of business.
Meanwhile, the DSL market becomes further consolidated by the big boys...
http://friendbear.betchuk.com/
stil
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I've been following this since yesterday, here are some relevant links & funny facts:
FULL logs:
http://www.retardmagnet.com/whoops/
http://www.sunpoint.net/~blametim/blame.xhtml
Fuckedcompany broke the story at:
http://www.fuckedcompany.com/comments/index.cfm? ne wsID=9082447374
There are 18 pages of commentary @ Fuckedcompany, some commentary is rather humorous - phone numbers for employees and the answering machine messages that say "I no longer work here, call Sam Jain", highlights from some of the logs, and misc. images from the web.
If you go to http://www.efront.com, and then go to their "About Us" section, every link works.. except the Management link, most likely removed to prevent them from being spammed or contacted by news media. Of course, you can still get the information, because they didn't take down the German version of that page. Just click on the German flag.
I suppose their site *would* have to be up for this to work, though.
Thank goodness for GoogleCache!
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.efront. co m/management.php+efront+management&hl=en
Also funny is that Sam Jain's cell phone (the number of which you can find in the logs) is "at the customer's request, no longer accepting incoming calls".
I'm wondering if anyone has noticed that in addition to the horrific grammer of "We'd pleased" in the second quote, there is also no closing quotation mark.
Appropriate personnel at washingtonpost.com have been contacted and have been alerted to both errors. The funny thing is that while the washingtonpost.com producers can put the stories up, the iron fist of the powers that be at the paper edition of the Post crushes any attempt to modify or correct errors within the stories themselves without explicit permission from the paper edition side. Fear of powergrubbing, or somesuch.
Alas.
Let me explain two of the most annoying things in the movie set for me.
#1 - Camera angles on Geidi Prime.
This was just plain stupid. Every scene on Geidi Prime that included the Baron would be shot at some odd angle, and the camera would go swerving around. What is this? Bad-GuyCam? Is it supposed to contrast with the Baron floating about? These shots were moronic, and hopefully will be completely abandoned when they do the next series.
#2 The rhyming Baron.
Why? Why, oh why, was such an idiotic thing done? What they trying to insinuate? That rhyming is the indication of an evil villain? If I were 8 years old, I would still realize that this was tripe.
So, here are some of the things I learned from watching Sci Fi's Dune:
If the camera shooting the scene is swerving around a lot, then you are looking at Bad Guys.
If the last words said in a particular scene end in a rhyme, it was a Bad Guy that spoke them!
If a character starts a sentence with "As the ancients used to say..." or "There is an ancient saying" you can damn well bet your buttons that even though it's past the year 10,000, the characters are refering to sometime in or around the 20th century. Yes, out of 100 centuries.
In another 80 centuries or so, everyone will be required to wear a stupid hat.
:Caffiene does improve memory, if taken:during/before the event one is trying:to remember, IIRC. My college psychology teacher:conducted a study on a North Dakota campus that:helped to prove this effect. The teacher's name:was MacPherson, the campus was either UMD or:NDSU.
UMD *or* NDSU?
Should we assume that you were not one of the students who received the caffiene?:)
Curt Suplee, the General Science reporter on the National desk of The Washington Post will be writing an article about the ease of "virus creation" in the next day or so.
Concentrations will be on the tools used to create viruses, the ease of creation, informative bits about macro viruses, how certain applications (ie Outlook) "autolaunch" virus-ridden files, and so forth.
If you want to contact him, his email address is supleec@washpost.com.
Do *not* spam this guy - he's a nice guy trying to write an informative story, but if you have some pointers for him or some interesting URLs I'm sure he'd appreciate them. He might need interview candidates, but I'm not certain about that. Perhaps a simple offer of assistance would be the best bet. Consider this your heads-up from the/. Wash Post insider.:)
::in our haste to create the most powerful story possible (emphasis added)
:Remember when news used to be reported instead of created?
:I think this one little slip is the scariest thing I've seen so far related to the whole "hellmouth" incident
Quick & Dirty response:
You reference "story" and equate it with "news". Consider that for a moment and determine if they are really the same.
Long & Drawn out response:
I think it's important to note that "reporting" is pretty much entirely based on the creation of stories. True, news is often used to garner interest in the stories, but there is a reason that they are called "stories" in the media.
They are indeed creating a news story, much like any other organization does - by taking a factual element, padding it out with details, quotes, and an angle, then putting it out for mass consumption. There's nothing inherently *bad* about this, per se. The news media models that we have come to accept over the last century or so are not built to deliver news - they are built to sell advertising. The news/sitcoms/movies/stories that you see are the draw to the advertising. Just because/. doesn't fit into this model doesn't mean that it can't use the methods common to it for story structuring.
If this type of realization is "scary", I suggest that all who feel this way refrain from any type of research on the history of mass media outlets - you might be pushed over the edge!:)
For any interested, there will be an article in Friday's Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com) regarding Microsoft's letter,/.'s reply, and so forth. The article will be by John Schwartz, who, along with Rob Pegoraro, tend to cover/.ish issues. I think that anyone who reads/. on a regular basis will enjoy the direction that the article takes. Schwartz can be contacted (nicely, don't abuse this guy, he's one of the few decent tech writers in a major media organization) at schwartzj@washpost.com This heads-up comes from someone else with a @washpost.com address, explaining the ability to give advance notice. stil
Having noticed the original article on cnn.com, I immediately went to/. to report the link. Of course,/. being/., there was already a link up to the article, along with a zillion replies.
I got to thinking - if I were a clever executive at etoys.com who wanted to pump up the publicity for the site, especially during the holiday season, what would be the most efficient resource to use for this purpose?
Then it hit me - What is the most potent energy source in the universe? Why, the unchecked ire of righteous net.rogues, of course! All that would be needed to harness such energy would be a minor slight, preferably one related to online freedoms.
A plan is thus hatched - create a decoy company, a "little guy". Abuse the decoy company by throwing around monetary weight. When the decoy goes down for the count, the net.rogues are sure to reach a hand into the ring for a tag, and come in blazing. The media being what it is, it won't be able to resist reporting on the scoundrels and whatever retalitory actions they take.
Result? My company comes out the hero, having been abused by those evil C^HHackers, and gets a ton of free press to boot, right around our most profitable time.
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:Having relatively recently graduated from
:college
First, note lack of experience in real world.
:Most of my group experiences involved maybe
:half of the group caring about their grade,
:and the other half being ok with a C. You
:then end up with an extremely unbalanced
:work load as the ones who care the most do
:the most and produce the better product.
:Then they usually have to go around and fix
:up the people's work who really didn't care
:as much.
Second, note what has been learned.
:All in all, it rarely leads to a
:produtive group and doesn't teach you much
:about the work force.
Third, note conclusion.
I would argue that your experiences in a group actually have taught you a *TREMENDOUS* amount about what the work force is like. You just haven't had to experience it yet.
:)
Wait until those former co-students are co-workers, and your group doesn't get its bonuses because you weren't able to fix all of the code the moron sitting beside you managed to type up between his AIM chat sessions.
Oh, the times that await you...
stil
The linked MSNBC story has pretty much all the information you need to know, as far as history goes. The interesting thing is what has happened in the the last week or so.
The CEO of Northpoint, Elizabeth Fetter, released a statement through their website (http://www.northpointcom.com/) on March 22 indicating that a network shutdown was going to happen at any time, and that subscribers should seek service elsewhere immediately.
Unfortunately, no major news organizations really picked up the news until later the next day (a Friday), with the end result being that many people didn't even find out about the news until Monday of this week.
Additionally, because Northpoint waited so long to contact its re-sellers (MSN & such), those resellers weren't able to notify thier customers until Friday at the earliest. For the business customers, many didn't find out what was happening until they got snail mail on Monday of this week informing them that their service was about to go kaput.
As to why Northpoint didn't give more forewarning, perhaps someone else can say. What I do know is that there are a LOT of DSL resellers out there that are hoppin' mad at Northpoint, because they are the ones that are about to lose business from their customers. Many forever, as customers move over to cable modems or fractional T1s after having been burned by thier DSL experiences.
Watch for companies heavily dependant on Northpoint for DSL re-selling to scramble mightily in the next few days - I wouldn't be surprised if some just went out of business.
Meanwhile, the DSL market becomes further consolidated by the big boys...
http://friendbear.betchuk.com/
stil
I've been following this since yesterday, here are some relevant links & funny facts:
t =h ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.hebus.com%2Findex.html&lp=fr_en
? ne wsID=9082447374
. co m/management.php+efront+management&hl=en
FULL logs:
http://www.retardmagnet.com/whoops/
http://www.sunpoint.net/~blametim/blame.xhtml
Misc. logs & non-log information:
http://members.tripod.com/smajain/
http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn?urltex
Fuckedcompany broke the story at:
http://www.fuckedcompany.com/comments/index.cfm
There are 18 pages of commentary @ Fuckedcompany, some commentary is rather humorous - phone numbers for employees and the answering machine messages that say "I no longer work here, call Sam Jain", highlights from some of the logs, and misc. images from the web.
If you go to http://www.efront.com, and then go to their "About Us" section, every link works.. except the Management link, most likely removed to prevent them from being spammed or contacted by news media. Of course, you can still get the information, because they didn't take down the German version of that page. Just click on the German flag.
I suppose their site *would* have to be up for this to work, though.
Thank goodness for GoogleCache!
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.efront
Also funny is that Sam Jain's cell phone (the number of which you can find in the logs) is "at the customer's request, no longer accepting incoming calls".
That's all, folks
stil
I'm wondering if anyone has noticed that in addition to the horrific grammer of "We'd pleased" in the second quote, there is also no closing quotation mark. Appropriate personnel at washingtonpost.com have been contacted and have been alerted to both errors. The funny thing is that while the washingtonpost.com producers can put the stories up, the iron fist of the powers that be at the paper edition of the Post crushes any attempt to modify or correct errors within the stories themselves without explicit permission from the paper edition side. Fear of powergrubbing, or somesuch. Alas.
Let me explain two of the most annoying things in the movie set for me.
#1 - Camera angles on Geidi Prime.
This was just plain stupid. Every scene on Geidi Prime that included the Baron would be shot at some odd angle, and the camera would go swerving around. What is this? Bad-GuyCam? Is it supposed to contrast with the Baron floating about? These shots were moronic, and hopefully will be completely abandoned when they do the next series.
#2 The rhyming Baron.
Why? Why, oh why, was such an idiotic thing done? What they trying to insinuate? That rhyming is the indication of an evil villain? If I were 8 years old, I would still realize that this was tripe.
So, here are some of the things I learned from watching Sci Fi's Dune:
If the camera shooting the scene is swerving around a lot, then you are looking at Bad Guys.
If the last words said in a particular scene end in a rhyme, it was a Bad Guy that spoke them!
If a character starts a sentence with "As the ancients used to say..." or "There is an ancient saying" you can damn well bet your buttons that even though it's past the year 10,000, the characters are refering to sometime in or around the 20th century. Yes, out of 100 centuries.
In another 80 centuries or so, everyone will be required to wear a stupid hat.
Matte settings look real. No, really. They do.
:(
Stil
:Caffiene does improve memory, if taken :during/before the event one is trying :to remember, IIRC. My college psychology teacher :conducted a study on a North Dakota campus that :helped to prove this effect. The teacher's name :was MacPherson, the campus was either UMD or :NDSU.
UMD *or* NDSU?
Should we assume that you were not one of the students who received the caffiene? :)
http://zsnet.com :)
Concentrations will be on the tools used to create viruses, the ease of creation, informative bits about macro viruses, how certain applications (ie Outlook) "autolaunch" virus-ridden files, and so forth.
If you want to contact him, his email address is supleec@washpost.com.
Do *not* spam this guy - he's a nice guy trying to write an informative story, but if you have some pointers for him or some interesting URLs I'm sure he'd appreciate them. He might need interview candidates, but I'm not certain about that. Perhaps a simple offer of assistance would be the best bet. Consider this your heads-up from the /. Wash Post insider. :)
stil
Quick & Dirty response:
You reference "story" and equate it with "news". Consider that for a moment and determine if they are really the same.
Long & Drawn out response:
I think it's important to note that "reporting" is pretty much entirely based on the creation of stories. True, news is often used to garner interest in the stories, but there is a reason that they are called "stories" in the media.
They are indeed creating a news story, much like any other organization does - by taking a factual element, padding it out with details, quotes, and an angle, then putting it out for mass consumption. There's nothing inherently *bad* about this, per se. The news media models that we have come to accept over the last century or so are not built to deliver news - they are built to sell advertising. The news/sitcoms/movies/stories that you see are the draw to the advertising. Just because /. doesn't fit into this model doesn't mean that it can't use the methods common to it for story structuring.
If this type of realization is "scary", I suggest that all who feel this way refrain from any type of research on the history of mass media outlets - you might be pushed over the edge! :)
For any interested, there will be an article in Friday's Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com) regarding Microsoft's letter, /.'s reply, and so forth. The article will be by John Schwartz, who, along with Rob Pegoraro, tend to cover /.ish issues. I think that anyone who reads /. on a regular basis will enjoy the direction that the article takes. Schwartz can be contacted (nicely, don't abuse this guy, he's one of the few decent tech writers in a major media organization) at schwartzj@washpost.com This heads-up comes from someone else with a @washpost.com address, explaining the ability to give advance notice. stil
Having noticed the original article on cnn.com, I immediately went to /. to report the link. Of course, /. being /., there was already a link up to the article, along with a zillion replies.
I got to thinking - if I were a clever executive at etoys.com who wanted to pump up the publicity for the site, especially during the holiday season, what would be the most efficient resource to use for this purpose?
Then it hit me - What is the most potent energy source in the universe? Why, the unchecked ire of righteous net.rogues, of course! All that would be needed to harness such energy would be a minor slight, preferably one related to online freedoms.
A plan is thus hatched - create a decoy company, a "little guy". Abuse the decoy company by throwing around monetary weight. When the decoy goes down for the count, the net.rogues are sure to reach a hand into the ring for a tag, and come in blazing. The media being what it is, it won't be able to resist reporting on the scoundrels and whatever retalitory actions they take.
Result? My company comes out the hero, having been abused by those evil C^HHackers, and gets a ton of free press to boot, right around our most profitable time.
Or maybe not.
:)
stil