Perl's new Unicode support -- which is already in the development sources -- is mostly in the form of support for UTF-8 encoding. The neat thing about UTF-8 is that it is NOT limited to 16-bit Unicode. It's an encoding-neutral way to put big (up to 40-some bit) characters into an otherwise ASCII byte stream.
So if Unicode grows beyond 16 bits -- which I'm sure it will -- Perl's UTF-8 support will already be there, ready to support it.
SPI is not interested in fighting with OSI. The reporter took an opinion of a random Debian developer as SPI official opinion.
The only thing worse than bad press is no press, but right now I'd settle for no press.
-- Chip Salzenberg, speaking from (but not for) the OSI
Who is really tearing this license open?
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Easy: The person who pushes the "Accept" button on the publicsource.apple.com web site is tearing, er, clicking the license, thereby entering into a contractual relationship with (in this case) Apple.
And that person is therefore responsible for any failures to follow the license terms in the distribution of his copy of the licenced source.
Non-copyright-based licenses probably do not have much chance of success...
That's interesting speculation. I assume that you would post the legal reasoning or case law behind it, if you had any.
RMS missed the boat on copyright
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Copyright is not relevant to the APSL.
The APSL is a shrinkwrap, er, clickwrap contract. By downloading the code under APSL terms, the downloader agrees to give up certain rights that would be givens under copyright law.
Since the APSL isn't a copyright-based license, "fair use" and other copyright-based concepts do not apply.
What was Microsoft thinking?!
Here it is, beginning already.
Won't we all be better off when the various Unix vendors are contributing to a shared code base? I know I will. :-)
Unless, of course, Qt 2.0 is very different from Qt 1.x in this aspect....
So if Unicode grows beyond 16 bits -- which I'm sure it will -- Perl's UTF-8 support will already be there, ready to support it.
In other words: Don't Panic.
We haven't. Not yet, anyway. We're still listening to public comments, such us on the <license-discuss@opensource.org> mailing list.
The only thing worse than bad press is no press, but right now I'd settle for no press.
-- Chip Salzenberg, speaking from (but not for) the OSI
And that person is therefore responsible for any failures to follow the license terms in the distribution of his copy of the licenced source.
Non-copyright-based licenses probably do not have much chance of success...
That's interesting speculation. I assume that you would post the legal reasoning or case law behind it, if you had any.
The APSL is a shrinkwrap, er, clickwrap contract. By downloading the code under APSL terms, the downloader agrees to give up certain rights that would be givens under copyright law.
Since the APSL isn't a copyright-based license, "fair use" and other copyright-based concepts do not apply.
-- Chip Salzenberg, a director of OSI
IBM and Sun pull whole products. Apple pulls a subroutine -- and replaces it.
So, something here is ugly, but it's not a termination clause...
Guess what -- that's what would happen anyway! Apple is just spelling out what others leave unsaid.
While Sun's and IBM's licenses threaten to pull entire products if there are IP claims against them, Apple's license doesn't. This is good.
The APSL is praiseworthy, and it is Open Source.
-- Chip Salzenberg, a Director of Open Source Initiative