If they are able to sufficiently separate it that the GPLv3 software isn't affected, then there's really no problem. GPLv3 isn't about preventing DRM, it's about preventing the use of DRM to close GPL software -- among other loopholes.
My point was that the GP was trying to basically say the opposite - that GPLv3 would prevent a DRM situation that GPLv2 wouldn't. Given that Nokia are specifically separating things (in a similar way to the PS3, probably, from a legal stand-point at the least) then the GP's comment doesn't have any basis in anything.
I can see the aim of the DRM line in GPLv3, but I'm not sure about using it as it seems to be putting a 'political' bias on a technical license.
Fortunately, Nokia can do all that it wants with Linux, while being GPL2 and even GPL3-compatible
Apparently there are ways to separate things so that it is v3 compatible. No amount of "no DRM in GPL software" limitations is going to help if the people writing the DRM are able to sufficiently separate it such that the GPL license need not apply.
The misguidedness of DRM in the huge majority of situations is another matter, though.
Yes, communication is important, but that's what talking and emails are for. If it's important and absolutely needs real-time response without physically moving then what's wrong with a separate IM client and a Jabber server or similar? That way you get the best of both worlds - an IDE that focused on being an IDE and an IM client that both focused on being an IM client and that can be hidden away when not in use. I didn't think much of the interface either, but that may partly have been a "not used to glossy Mac buttons" and "didn't get a full view of the editor" thing.
As for the web design, yes flash content is everywhere, but 10 years ago embedded WAV/MIDI files were everywhere. Are you really telling me that what is everywhere is a good thing? I'd guess that 90% of Flash animation is either pointless, less accessible, or badly done (if that isn't already covered by the previous two). I was expecting the "Comparison" page to give me some comparison in a nice and readable tabular form. Instead it seems to be a flash animation that isn't even comparing anything, just listing the features in relation to software development processes where the process is described and its pros and cons listed.
The header was just an annoyance because of the animation. I don't want the header catching my eye when I should be reading page content. I don't want a commercial website to look like someone has gone "look what cool stuff we can do, just because we can". I want it to be unobtrusive, readable and professional, especially when it is for an IDE rather than some art package. Is there really any need for the flickering/blinking, the sliding effects and the typing effect?
Entirely? There's the stupid animations on the overview and the comparison table that isn't a table that I saw. I've just checked some other pages and the Practices page is also Flash for no particular reason. The header looks like a terrible Flash header as well, even if it is JavaScript.
I will admit that they seem to have at least been semantic with their code, though.
As for the IDE, I gave the video a quick watch (using the 'no frills' version that had frills like page turn effects for no real reason) and nothing stood out. In fact things like "be constantly pestered by conversations within your IDE, not another window that you can hide" seem like a big negative.
Give me Visual Studio.Net, Eclipse or MonoDevelop any day over that thing!
If the tool is anything like their website, with all of its "pointless Flash animations" and lack of clearly laid out comparison tables, then I'd be glad if it died. I'd probably also understand the people who wanted to quite over a change of IDE if that was the one they were being moved to!
I was thinking the same thing - I thought PC gaming was so rife with piracy that PC only (more specifically Windows only) games were a no-go for studios? Either someone was lying about that or they're making a stupid choice, and I'm guessing the former.
Surely giving users a select box with no options is a bad idea anyway, since it will confuse them as to "what am I supposed to select if there's nothing here"? I'd have expected any reasonably coded site where that was a possibility to give a "no options available" option in the box and then disable the box, or remove the section completely.
On a more on-topic note: Finally, Webmasters won't be able to design sites with quite such terrible HTML just because that's what IE does! Okay, so the sites might still be ugly as hell, but at least the source won't be so awful with so much broken stuff in other browsers.
I've done that for themes, but the Nightly Tester Tools were more official and a bit less work (rather than trying to track down extensions by GUID). All of my extensions seem to have been made compatible by the developer now, though:)
Obviously tips like this take a long time to filter through to Slashdot, for some reason. I saw that tip when first using Firefox 3 betas, and according to the Mozillazine knowledgebase it has been there since Firefox 2! It also covers an extra bit that the summary doesn't that might still stop extensions working in Firefox 3.
And after all that, I originally used the Nightly Tester Tools to check the compatibility of some extensions. Some of the simpler ones worked, but AdBlock Plus couldn't just have the FF2 version enabled (it wouldn't auto-fill the filter address, but they have an update) and neither could the Web Dev toolbar (the edit CSS tab wouldn't close, amongst other things). Both of them have now been updated for the RC.
I think this one is definitely tagged right - "!news". Now all it needs is "badidea".
Also, that original price is excluding VAT, so you're talking about £62, or about $120, after they slap on the 17.5%. That's about a 33% discount in the US compared to the UK!
That's better than we get in the UK from the US. Most companies have hardware at a similar numbered price to in the UK (e.g. maybe £100 would sell for $120, which is ~£60 at the current exchange rate, or something equally stupid) and then we don't even get the option of shipping it to the UK! At least they're trying to be international;)
Also, the whole of/. doesn't reside in and around the US. There are visitors from other countries including Britain and Europe, you know;)
Nope, I already had Qt because I already had VirtualBox installed and it required Qt anyway. I installed the bare minimum of Qt (why fill the machine with bloat for a single app?) so I think I'm currently using Platinum or something - one of the core ones. Hopefully I'll get a chance to try the other theme in the next few days.
What is the summary author on? What part of "oh, a few distros are released at a similar time" equates to "they are all working to a common UI, or should be"?
I'm sure that everyone with their eyes closed or their monitors switched off will agree that Suse with the single bar and a slightly Windows-esque launch pad menu and seemingly a single desktop is very close to Fedora with its fairly standard Gnome layout, which looks almost identical to a graphical installer, a text-based installer and a Windows app for installing Ubuntu from Windows. About the only similarity is that they seem to use a similar Clearlooks-style widget set.
As for Compiz, I won't even bother going in to the detail of it being a separate project that lots of people use across many distros.
Not bad, although I think I might have tried it before and decided against it because the RPM of it drew in too many dependencies for the sake of a theme that I only occasionally see. I'll see if it was that theme and whether it works better from the download.
My only thought from the screenshot is that the buttons look a bit glossy (which is part of what I never liked about KDE) but we'll see how it works out in the end:)
So what will be the distro differences? I thought "how to update the packages are" was one of the decisions people made. Surely synching with Debian would put everyone's schedule back a bit and be a bit pointless since they're not likely to be using the same versions of things.
Also, would it really help upstream? If everyone is going for the same dates then surely upstream will have periods when feedback is at a low because everyone is focussing on assembling the final distro and the integration?
I read the title and thought "hurray, I can finally run the one app that I need that has a damned fugly Qt theme in amongst my Gnome desktop (VirtualBox)". Then I read the summary.
What about all of the Qt3 apps? I know there's gtk-qt-engine to work the other way around, but given the huge number of Qt3 apps currently being used, can we not have a decent GTK look for them?
If it wasn't for VirtualBox I wouldn't even need Qt. Amarok? No thanks, I'll take Exaile because it works and it fits in. K3B? Brasero seems to work perfectly fine to me. Erm...I'm out of remotely useful Qt/KDE apps I might want in Gnome now!
Ubuntu Security Notice - courier vulnerability (USN-294-1) Help Net Security - Jun 9 2006
Ubuntu Security Notice - openoffice.org2-amd64, openoffice.org2 vulnerabilities (USN-313-2) Help Net Security - Jul 19 2006
Dell, Ubuntu 7.04 Digital Silence - May 24 2007
Open-Xchange and Ubuntu woo small business PC World Magazine - Jul 19 2007
Ubuntu update for kernel Secunia - Aug 31 2007
Ubuntu update for vmware Secunia - Nov 16 2007
That's two security notices and two Secunia pages. Doesn't necessarily bode well in terms of attention:D
Who should use this: Experienced Linux users who want an enterprise-grade distribution or will be deploying software to Red Hat Enterprise.
and
Incidentally, it's a good idea to start with Fedora if you're part of a business that may want to transition to Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) sometime in the future. Since work done on Fedora flows into Red Hat, this allows for a fairly simple transition from Fedora to RHEL.
Surely if you want an enterprise-grade distro but don't want to pay for it then you go for CentOS, since it's basically unbranded RHEL? Fedora is specifically meant as more cutting edge (as the author mentioned) so why would you want to start a server on it if you're going to move to RHEL?
As for the complaint about lack of support, how many normal users get support with Windows? Most people use friends and family for support or learn it themselves.
I've been installing Fedora and Redhat since 7.3 and never had a problem. The closest I got to install problems was when one version wanted to display the installer at a higher res than my laptop screen. All I did then was a bit of creative navigation.
I still got the impression that US TV is worse than UK TV for adverts, though. Like I said, maybe it isn't and it's just that I blank out the UK adverts because I don't recognise them. Run times on Sky are certainly the same as on US channels, so it must be similar.
I have noticed that some of the smaller channels on satellite seem to have more adverts, which is annoying, but I guess they think it's the only way to make money. On the plus side we probably watch more DVDs than TV so we don't see most of it!
As for council houses, that's a somewhat odd comment. The normal indicator I've seen in Manchester is the mum smoking over the pram, the unkempt front garden, the toys discarded everywhere and the identi-kit appearance. Having lived in a 3-bed ex-council house, I'd rather have that than my current 2-bed mid-terrace or my last rental - a 70s/80s 3-bed semi that was really "one and two halves".
Shorter than four years? Now there's commitment to a schedule!
You never know, by that time ODF might be a highly used standard, Linux and Mac might have dwarfed Windows, and MS Office might have been replaced in a lot of office environments.
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My point was that the GP was trying to basically say the opposite - that GPLv3 would prevent a DRM situation that GPLv2 wouldn't. Given that Nokia are specifically separating things (in a similar way to the PS3, probably, from a legal stand-point at the least) then the GP's comment doesn't have any basis in anything.
I can see the aim of the DRM line in GPLv3, but I'm not sure about using it as it seems to be putting a 'political' bias on a technical license.
Apparently there are ways to separate things so that it is v3 compatible. No amount of "no DRM in GPL software" limitations is going to help if the people writing the DRM are able to sufficiently separate it such that the GPL license need not apply.
The misguidedness of DRM in the huge majority of situations is another matter, though.
Fried chicken? Surely it's very very frightening, me. Galileo, (Galileo). Galileo, (Galileo). Galileo, Figaro. Magnifico...
;)
Fried Chicken was the end of One Vision
Yes, communication is important, but that's what talking and emails are for. If it's important and absolutely needs real-time response without physically moving then what's wrong with a separate IM client and a Jabber server or similar? That way you get the best of both worlds - an IDE that focused on being an IDE and an IM client that both focused on being an IM client and that can be hidden away when not in use. I didn't think much of the interface either, but that may partly have been a "not used to glossy Mac buttons" and "didn't get a full view of the editor" thing.
As for the web design, yes flash content is everywhere, but 10 years ago embedded WAV/MIDI files were everywhere. Are you really telling me that what is everywhere is a good thing? I'd guess that 90% of Flash animation is either pointless, less accessible, or badly done (if that isn't already covered by the previous two). I was expecting the "Comparison" page to give me some comparison in a nice and readable tabular form. Instead it seems to be a flash animation that isn't even comparing anything, just listing the features in relation to software development processes where the process is described and its pros and cons listed.
The header was just an annoyance because of the animation. I don't want the header catching my eye when I should be reading page content. I don't want a commercial website to look like someone has gone "look what cool stuff we can do, just because we can". I want it to be unobtrusive, readable and professional, especially when it is for an IDE rather than some art package. Is there really any need for the flickering/blinking, the sliding effects and the typing effect?
Entirely? There's the stupid animations on the overview and the comparison table that isn't a table that I saw. I've just checked some other pages and the Practices page is also Flash for no particular reason. The header looks like a terrible Flash header as well, even if it is JavaScript.
.Net, Eclipse or MonoDevelop any day over that thing!
I will admit that they seem to have at least been semantic with their code, though.
As for the IDE, I gave the video a quick watch (using the 'no frills' version that had frills like page turn effects for no real reason) and nothing stood out. In fact things like "be constantly pestered by conversations within your IDE, not another window that you can hide" seem like a big negative.
Give me Visual Studio
If the tool is anything like their website, with all of its "pointless Flash animations" and lack of clearly laid out comparison tables, then I'd be glad if it died. I'd probably also understand the people who wanted to quite over a change of IDE if that was the one they were being moved to!
I was thinking the same thing - I thought PC gaming was so rife with piracy that PC only (more specifically Windows only) games were a no-go for studios? Either someone was lying about that or they're making a stupid choice, and I'm guessing the former.
Surely giving users a select box with no options is a bad idea anyway, since it will confuse them as to "what am I supposed to select if there's nothing here"? I'd have expected any reasonably coded site where that was a possibility to give a "no options available" option in the box and then disable the box, or remove the section completely.
On a more on-topic note: Finally, Webmasters won't be able to design sites with quite such terrible HTML just because that's what IE does! Okay, so the sites might still be ugly as hell, but at least the source won't be so awful with so much broken stuff in other browsers.
I've done that for themes, but the Nightly Tester Tools were more official and a bit less work (rather than trying to track down extensions by GUID). All of my extensions seem to have been made compatible by the developer now, though :)
Obviously tips like this take a long time to filter through to Slashdot, for some reason. I saw that tip when first using Firefox 3 betas, and according to the Mozillazine knowledgebase it has been there since Firefox 2! It also covers an extra bit that the summary doesn't that might still stop extensions working in Firefox 3.
And after all that, I originally used the Nightly Tester Tools to check the compatibility of some extensions. Some of the simpler ones worked, but AdBlock Plus couldn't just have the FF2 version enabled (it wouldn't auto-fill the filter address, but they have an update) and neither could the Web Dev toolbar (the edit CSS tab wouldn't close, amongst other things). Both of them have now been updated for the RC.
I think this one is definitely tagged right - "!news". Now all it needs is "badidea".
Also, that original price is excluding VAT, so you're talking about £62, or about $120, after they slap on the 17.5%. That's about a 33% discount in the US compared to the UK!
That's better than we get in the UK from the US. Most companies have hardware at a similar numbered price to in the UK (e.g. maybe £100 would sell for $120, which is ~£60 at the current exchange rate, or something equally stupid) and then we don't even get the option of shipping it to the UK! At least they're trying to be international ;)
/. doesn't reside in and around the US. There are visitors from other countries including Britain and Europe, you know ;)
Also, the whole of
"I earn nearly half-a-million a year", said the man earning £100K!
Would that be Damned Restrictions Management?
Nope, I already had Qt because I already had VirtualBox installed and it required Qt anyway. I installed the bare minimum of Qt (why fill the machine with bloat for a single app?) so I think I'm currently using Platinum or something - one of the core ones. Hopefully I'll get a chance to try the other theme in the next few days.
What is the summary author on? What part of "oh, a few distros are released at a similar time" equates to "they are all working to a common UI, or should be"?
I'm sure that everyone with their eyes closed or their monitors switched off will agree that Suse with the single bar and a slightly Windows-esque launch pad menu and seemingly a single desktop is very close to Fedora with its fairly standard Gnome layout, which looks almost identical to a graphical installer, a text-based installer and a Windows app for installing Ubuntu from Windows. About the only similarity is that they seem to use a similar Clearlooks-style widget set.
As for Compiz, I won't even bother going in to the detail of it being a separate project that lots of people use across many distros.
Not bad, although I think I might have tried it before and decided against it because the RPM of it drew in too many dependencies for the sake of a theme that I only occasionally see. I'll see if it was that theme and whether it works better from the download.
:)
My only thought from the screenshot is that the buttons look a bit glossy (which is part of what I never liked about KDE) but we'll see how it works out in the end
So what will be the distro differences? I thought "how to update the packages are" was one of the decisions people made. Surely synching with Debian would put everyone's schedule back a bit and be a bit pointless since they're not likely to be using the same versions of things.
Also, would it really help upstream? If everyone is going for the same dates then surely upstream will have periods when feedback is at a low because everyone is focussing on assembling the final distro and the integration?
I read the title and thought "hurray, I can finally run the one app that I need that has a damned fugly Qt theme in amongst my Gnome desktop (VirtualBox)". Then I read the summary.
What about all of the Qt3 apps? I know there's gtk-qt-engine to work the other way around, but given the huge number of Qt3 apps currently being used, can we not have a decent GTK look for them?
If it wasn't for VirtualBox I wouldn't even need Qt. Amarok? No thanks, I'll take Exaile because it works and it fits in. K3B? Brasero seems to work perfectly fine to me. Erm...I'm out of remotely useful Qt/KDE apps I might want in Gnome now!
That's two security notices and two Secunia pages. Doesn't necessarily bode well in terms of attention
and
Surely if you want an enterprise-grade distro but don't want to pay for it then you go for CentOS, since it's basically unbranded RHEL? Fedora is specifically meant as more cutting edge (as the author mentioned) so why would you want to start a server on it if you're going to move to RHEL?
As for the complaint about lack of support, how many normal users get support with Windows? Most people use friends and family for support or learn it themselves.
I've been installing Fedora and Redhat since 7.3 and never had a problem. The closest I got to install problems was when one version wanted to display the installer at a higher res than my laptop screen. All I did then was a bit of creative navigation.
I still got the impression that US TV is worse than UK TV for adverts, though. Like I said, maybe it isn't and it's just that I blank out the UK adverts because I don't recognise them. Run times on Sky are certainly the same as on US channels, so it must be similar.
I have noticed that some of the smaller channels on satellite seem to have more adverts, which is annoying, but I guess they think it's the only way to make money. On the plus side we probably watch more DVDs than TV so we don't see most of it!
As for council houses, that's a somewhat odd comment. The normal indicator I've seen in Manchester is the mum smoking over the pram, the unkempt front garden, the toys discarded everywhere and the identi-kit appearance. Having lived in a 3-bed ex-council house, I'd rather have that than my current 2-bed mid-terrace or my last rental - a 70s/80s 3-bed semi that was really "one and two halves".
I meant System.Windows.Forms, not Shockwave Flash ;)
Shorter than four years? Now there's commitment to a schedule!
You never know, by that time ODF might be a highly used standard, Linux and Mac might have dwarfed Windows, and MS Office might have been replaced in a lot of office environments.