Yeah, I broke down when I needed to grab actual timecodes to set breakpoints in a video. The amount of time VLC takes to seek inside a video (especially a large one) is terrible, and that half-second delay really adds up when you're seeking back and forth frequently to find the right spot and/or have to set a number of them. VLC still also has no way of printing out sub-second timestamps or timestamps that use frames instead of seconds, which is unconscionable given how many people have asked for it. mplayer's timestamps work great, and you can seek back and forth a dozen times a second with no slowdown.
Back in the days of hey lets make our software look like an appliance. DVD playback software was notorious for this. Lets make an interface that looks like an actual set top DVD player. Also apps that Creative used to bundle with their sound cards.
Thank god that era is behind us, they shipped crappy "skins" and the stuff that the 3rd party community made was usually even worse.
It was also the age of "hey, this skin will look really awesome in a screenshot! That'll make people want to use it. Of course, no one actually stares at their media player while playing music or watching a movie, but let's make something that's more flashy than coherent or usable."
Maybe it has reached its design goals, and is largely bug-free and tested.
What's the fuss? Enjoy it!
Because everything else around it evolves. I understand your point, that there's no need to rewrite the whole thing, etcetc. But software products DO need some type of maintenance. Your 10-year-old media isn't much use if it can only play 10-year-old files. Even if the OS changes, the application that ran just fine under the old OS might not start or just crash if it makes false assumptions about the newer OS. If it doesn't understand or handles in a poor way new file formats, new video card output tricks, larger formats like 4k, new methods of file storage (IE, cloud storage if you're going that way, or web playback), you'll find that media player to not be a lot of use.
Whether you use VLC or MPC-HC is irrelevant to the developers working on the project.
Users need developers, and developers need users, and that's true even if one of those two groups doesn't acknowledge the importance of the other.
Without developers, other projects will suck away the users as those projects improve. Without developers, developers have little reason to stick around. "I want to scratch this itch I have" only works for the most minor and trivial of projects. Major projects don't come around because one guy makes this big thing that no one else cares about.
I can't believe I actually went back to mplayer over VLC. mplayer is just so much faster, and doesn't try to crap all over your GUI if it doesn't understand a media file format or thinks the contents are busted.
Ah yes, the "bad old days" of skins. "Hey, let's not make a good UI for our media player, we'll throw something trashy out there, I'm sure someone will make a great skin!"
I think the GP's "Why would you think this?" question was really in response to your "I don't think you're trolling, I just think you're ignorant." GP thinks the OP was clearly trolling; I don't think the OP was ignorant at all, I think he was trolling either to be an ass, or to throw in FUD.
So you're a lilly-livered, yellow-bellied, pussy-boy little coward who is scared of his own shadow? How disappointing. You must have been raised by women. Enjoy your life being under a microscope, fuccboi.
Or... you're the one who is fucking scared, terrified even, that Oh No! Some dude at the bank might know what you've bought! Ohh, ohh, how could you possibly live with yourself if that happened?
"Then the soldiers and colonists conquered fair and square" That doesn't jibe with history
No? I seem to recall that disease did a pretty good job (it did most of the heavy work, really), and tribe by tribe, the natives were forced to give up their land. Sorry, by "fair and square" I didn't mean to imply that the US lived up to treaties and agreements, which it most certainly did not.
The muslims were basically committing genocide against the people currently living in those lands
Again, they would not have given a shit if it wasn't the sacredness of the lands and their religion that told them they had to defend it. Was rousing the peasants and sending them two thousand miles away something they did if, say, the poor folks in India were getting massacred?
They've certainly done it before. Encryption above certain key lengths used to be illegal to export, and software that was secure came with enough restrictions that it was a pretty big barrier for use.
backdoor' into ANY encryption algorithm, that your DESTROY it's ability to keep sensitive data out of the hands of the very people you're trying to 'protect' against!?
Does it really? Are you sure that encryption is the ONLY thing that keeps government secrets out of enemy hands? Before encryption, the government agencies were quite decent at keeping secrets. Maybe they think that they still can if encryption were weakened or gone.
Hmm..I guess the crusades were some type of party.
Bad example...the Crusades were a reaction to the Muslims overtaking the "Holy Land"...and not letting Christians in....it was a defensive move back in the day.
Once again, the Muslims were the initial aggressors.
All those lands have been passed around from conquering civilization to conquering civilization. Why would some Englander have cared whether some tribe came in and rolled through Judea? Oh... right. They're Holy Lands. They're Christian, so of course, they'll go to war.. for God.
Please do one of two things: Either TAKE YOUR MEDS so you're not your usual obsessive-compulsive uber-pedantic pain-in-the-ass self, or kill yourself, preferably in the most painful way possible..
He CAN'T kill himself, he's immortal. That's why he got annoyed with incorrect uses of the word 'immortal.'
Quit letting people from terrorist prone countries or parts of the world into YOUR country...where they refuse to assimilate and become pots of festering terrorist ideology waiting to unleash itself into the host country.
Someone should have told the Aboriginals & Native Americans that a long time ago
You're right. They should have. But they didn't. Their loss. I'm not inclined to repeat their mistakes. Though it wouldn't have mattered, they had no defense against the diseases the Europeans came with. Then the soldiers and colonists conquered fair and square what remained and pushed them off their land and into smaller reservations. It works as a cautionary tale.
Hillary Clinton, on the other hand? "We're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work!"
Another lie. It's a common tactic -- give a line that someone actually said, but strip all context off of it so you can distort the actual meaning. "let's reunite around policies that will bring jobs and opportunities to all these underserved poor communities. So for example, I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. Because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right? And we're going to make it clear that we don't want to forget those people. Those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories.
Now we've got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on."
But yeah, keep pretending that this was something Hillary was gleefully shouting as if she thought coal miners were assholes who deserved what they got.
Good lord, I don't even like Hillary, but was she wrong? Not really. As non-coal sources of energy grow cheaper, coal becomes more troublesome, and coal jobs are lost forever. That's the changing nature of technology.
Trump wasn't chosen because he's a useful idiot. Do you seriously think that Manasfort, Junior, Cohen, Strone, Kushner.... all of the people arround him knew, yet he didn't??? What did they tell him when they disappeared on trips to Moscow? Holidays in the Algarve??
Are you seriously going for the 'plausible deniability' angle? Because he saw all this surveillance information that we see now. Those emails didn't come as a surprise to him, he had them as part of the CIA surveillance package he was shown.
He even said that his only contact with Russians was through the Miss Universe pageant, and that he once sold a mansion to a Russian oligarch, despite most of his money from the 1990s (after he nearly went broke) came from Russians who would buy his condos as a way to launder money.
Have you looked at a map? Russia has a huge, indefensible border and not nearly enough troops to defend it. The European armies alone, without their pimp-master USA outnumber them 3:1.
Yet historically most armies entering Russia have been met with sound defeat. It's terrible place to try to conquer, and no one is interested in invading Russia.
Yaknow, maybe if we stopped fucking with them so hard they wouldn't be fucking with us. You think they just decided to be this way out of nowhere? For shits and giggles? America altered the result of Russia's 1996 election to keep that incompetent drunk Yeltsin in office
That's a pretty wild accusation to throw out. Extraordinary claims require even more extraordinary evidence.
As has become standard, it was the Russian oligarchs who became so rich in the 1990s, who opposed the Communist party candidate. They controlled most of the Russian media at that point and ran an advertising campaign that emphasized that Zyuganov would return Russia to the days of Stalin's gulags (unlikely), while also running documentaries emphasizing Stalin's abuses.
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Yeah, I broke down when I needed to grab actual timecodes to set breakpoints in a video. The amount of time VLC takes to seek inside a video (especially a large one) is terrible, and that half-second delay really adds up when you're seeking back and forth frequently to find the right spot and/or have to set a number of them. VLC still also has no way of printing out sub-second timestamps or timestamps that use frames instead of seconds, which is unconscionable given how many people have asked for it. mplayer's timestamps work great, and you can seek back and forth a dozen times a second with no slowdown.
Back in the days of hey lets make our software look like an appliance. DVD playback software was notorious for this. Lets make an interface that looks like an actual set top DVD player. Also apps that Creative used to bundle with their sound cards.
Thank god that era is behind us, they shipped crappy "skins" and the stuff that the 3rd party community made was usually even worse.
It was also the age of "hey, this skin will look really awesome in a screenshot! That'll make people want to use it. Of course, no one actually stares at their media player while playing music or watching a movie, but let's make something that's more flashy than coherent or usable."
It's like boiling a hundred tadpoles in a Yugo, rather than a giant frog in a Bentley. Nobody notices what you do in a Yugo.
Not here! I and others would stop and point and say "holy shit, is that a YUGO? I thought those things were a myth!"
Maybe it has reached its design goals, and is largely bug-free and tested.
What's the fuss? Enjoy it!
Because everything else around it evolves. I understand your point, that there's no need to rewrite the whole thing, etcetc.
But software products DO need some type of maintenance. Your 10-year-old media isn't much use if it can only play 10-year-old files. Even if the OS changes, the application that ran just fine under the old OS might not start or just crash if it makes false assumptions about the newer OS.
If it doesn't understand or handles in a poor way new file formats, new video card output tricks, larger formats like 4k, new methods of file storage (IE, cloud storage if you're going that way, or web playback), you'll find that media player to not be a lot of use.
Whether you use VLC or MPC-HC is irrelevant to the developers working on the project.
Users need developers, and developers need users, and that's true even if one of those two groups doesn't acknowledge the importance of the other.
Without developers, other projects will suck away the users as those projects improve.
Without developers, developers have little reason to stick around. "I want to scratch this itch I have" only works for the most minor and trivial of projects. Major projects don't come around because one guy makes this big thing that no one else cares about.
I can't believe I actually went back to mplayer over VLC. mplayer is just so much faster, and doesn't try to crap all over your GUI if it doesn't understand a media file format or thinks the contents are busted.
Ah yes, the "bad old days" of skins. "Hey, let's not make a good UI for our media player, we'll throw something trashy out there, I'm sure someone will make a great skin!"
I think the GP's "Why would you think this?" question was really in response to your "I don't think you're trolling, I just think you're ignorant." GP thinks the OP was clearly trolling; I don't think the OP was ignorant at all, I think he was trolling either to be an ass, or to throw in FUD.
So you're a lilly-livered, yellow-bellied, pussy-boy little coward who is scared of his own shadow? How disappointing. You must have been raised by women. Enjoy your life being under a microscope, fuccboi.
Or... you're the one who is fucking scared, terrified even, that Oh No! Some dude at the bank might know what you've bought! Ohh, ohh, how could you possibly live with yourself if that happened?
"Then the soldiers and colonists conquered fair and square"
That doesn't jibe with history
No? I seem to recall that disease did a pretty good job (it did most of the heavy work, really), and tribe by tribe, the natives were forced to give up their land.
Sorry, by "fair and square" I didn't mean to imply that the US lived up to treaties and agreements, which it most certainly did not.
The muslims were basically committing genocide against the people currently living in those lands
Again, they would not have given a shit if it wasn't the sacredness of the lands and their religion that told them they had to defend it. Was rousing the peasants and sending them two thousand miles away something they did if, say, the poor folks in India were getting massacred?
TIME magazine in 1996 bragging about how we interfered in the Russian election. [i.redd.it]
Advice? Is that the threshold for electoral interference? Well in that case no election is clean, of any candidate, in any country.
Good luck legislating math.
They've certainly done it before. Encryption above certain key lengths used to be illegal to export, and software that was secure came with enough restrictions that it was a pretty big barrier for use.
backdoor' into ANY encryption algorithm, that your DESTROY it's ability to keep sensitive data out of the hands of the very people you're trying to 'protect' against!?
Does it really? Are you sure that encryption is the ONLY thing that keeps government secrets out of enemy hands?
Before encryption, the government agencies were quite decent at keeping secrets. Maybe they think that they still can if encryption were weakened or gone.
Why? Are pussy-assed liberals going to threaten me with violence for calling them pussies? If they do, then yeah, they will be shot dead.
What a shame it is to live in such fear while pretending to be so brave.
Bad example...the Crusades were a reaction to the Muslims overtaking the "Holy Land"...and not letting Christians in....it was a defensive move back in the day.
Once again, the Muslims were the initial aggressors.
All those lands have been passed around from conquering civilization to conquering civilization. Why would some Englander have cared whether some tribe came in and rolled through Judea? Oh... right. They're Holy Lands. They're Christian, so of course, they'll go to war.. for God.
Putin's boys must be laughing their cocks off at these idiots.
I guess that's a round-about way of fighting the Russians and reducing their population.
Please do one of two things: Either TAKE YOUR MEDS so you're not your usual obsessive-compulsive uber-pedantic pain-in-the-ass self, or kill yourself, preferably in the most painful way possible..
He CAN'T kill himself, he's immortal. That's why he got annoyed with incorrect uses of the word 'immortal.'
Quit letting people from terrorist prone countries or parts of the world into YOUR country...where they refuse to assimilate and become pots of festering terrorist ideology waiting to unleash itself into the host country.
Someone should have told the Aboriginals & Native Americans that a long time ago
You're right. They should have. But they didn't. Their loss. I'm not inclined to repeat their mistakes.
Though it wouldn't have mattered, they had no defense against the diseases the Europeans came with. Then the soldiers and colonists conquered fair and square what remained and pushed them off their land and into smaller reservations. It works as a cautionary tale.
A lot of people thought she had plenty of charisma (not you obviously)
Even Hillary said (during a debate, I think), that she knows she just doesn't have the type of charisma that Bill had.
Hillary Clinton, on the other hand? "We're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work!"
Another lie.
It's a common tactic -- give a line that someone actually said, but strip all context off of it so you can distort the actual meaning.
"let's reunite around policies that will bring jobs and opportunities to all these underserved poor communities. So for example, I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. Because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right? And we're going to make it clear that we don't want to forget those people. Those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories.
Now we've got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on."
But yeah, keep pretending that this was something Hillary was gleefully shouting as if she thought coal miners were assholes who deserved what they got.
Good lord, I don't even like Hillary, but was she wrong? Not really. As non-coal sources of energy grow cheaper, coal becomes more troublesome, and coal jobs are lost forever. That's the changing nature of technology.
Trump wasn't chosen because he's a useful idiot. Do you seriously think that Manasfort, Junior, Cohen, Strone, Kushner.... all of the people arround him knew, yet he didn't??? What did they tell him when they disappeared on trips to Moscow? Holidays in the Algarve??
Are you seriously going for the 'plausible deniability' angle? Because he saw all this surveillance information that we see now. Those emails didn't come as a surprise to him, he had them as part of the CIA surveillance package he was shown.
He even said that his only contact with Russians was through the Miss Universe pageant, and that he once sold a mansion to a Russian oligarch, despite most of his money from the 1990s (after he nearly went broke) came from Russians who would buy his condos as a way to launder money.
I agree! Liberal press! Liberal press! Liberal press! I mean, they're probably right, but... liberal press!
Have you looked at a map? Russia has a huge, indefensible border and not nearly enough troops to defend it. The European armies alone, without their pimp-master USA outnumber them 3:1.
Yet historically most armies entering Russia have been met with sound defeat. It's terrible place to try to conquer, and no one is interested in invading Russia.
Yaknow, maybe if we stopped fucking with them so hard they wouldn't be fucking with us. You think they just decided to be this way out of nowhere? For shits and giggles? America altered the result of Russia's 1996 election to keep that incompetent drunk Yeltsin in office
That's a pretty wild accusation to throw out. Extraordinary claims require even more extraordinary evidence.
As has become standard, it was the Russian oligarchs who became so rich in the 1990s, who opposed the Communist party candidate. They controlled most of the Russian media at that point and ran an advertising campaign that emphasized that Zyuganov would return Russia to the days of Stalin's gulags (unlikely), while also running documentaries emphasizing Stalin's abuses.
Thank you, Reasonable Man, for injecting a little sanity when someone gets alarmist and over-cynical.