> they tend to view programming as a job and an > interest - not a lifestyle
Actually, this point WAS brought up at the meeting (I was an attendee). One of the women said that she has lots of female co-workers, but very few true "geek" co-workers - a kinship that she likes to have and an attitude that I understood.
There are quite a few of us out there. It's jusk taking time for SWE and SysAdmin to become a goal for more younger girls.
LOL... You mean a situation like three computers on the floor in the living room so that you have to be careful going to the couch that you don't trip on the ethernet cables? That's what my house is like... and it's all *my* doing.:) I'm sure it doesn't make a great impression on the men that have visited me.
My 486-66 is now working, and doing a nice job of it, as my masquerading router for my DSL line. Two ISA nics in it and all my machines use my DSL quite happily.
I just wish I had another machine to do the same for a friend of mine - she does NOT want to dedicate a new PII or PIII to the task.
I agree. The important thing is that the parents treat the children as important and pay attention for danger signs and crys for help... Most children *do* show signs of one or the other when they need attention.
A bigger problem is parent who have children and for one reason or another, obviously really don't WANT them. Parents who, more often than not, use the television or nintendo as a baby-sitter. I have seen many who (as someone stated above) treat their children more like roommates than their wards.
I prefer the idea of one parent at home for the first year or so - if possible. But if necessary (for financial OR personal happiness) I believe both parents can work and still have time to be good parents to their children.
I personally come from a mixed-environment. There were times when my mother stayed at home and times when both parents worked. Durring the ages that I can remember, I don't mind that my mother worked - both parents were home by 6:00 and both paid LOTS of attention to us in the evening and on weekends - in fact, my parents seldom did anything without us! I beleieve that kind of attention is what is important!
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but I found it mildly irritating that the subject of this thread has JUST the word "mothers" and not "fathers".
I *did* notice that the text of the message was "gender-fair" and mentioned parents most of the time.
It just makes me wonder sometimes... In a world where more often than not, both parents have to work to be able to pay all the bills, why are mothers more often held accountable for the actions and welfare of the children than fathers are?
(I'm not as upset as I might sound... just trying to make a point).
It sounds like windows NT controls ONLY the moving map display and NOT the communications (as I first feared). However, I'd hate to think that NT may be guiding airplanes... especially out here in california with all these mountains near the airports. But, NT usually gives valid data until it crashes... and if all the pilot loses is the moving-map display, I know there are other navigation methods available.
Of course, there's still the question of WHY use it at ALL???
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> they tend to view programming as a job and an
> interest - not a lifestyle
Actually, this point WAS brought up at the meeting
(I was an attendee). One of the women said that
she has lots of female co-workers, but very few
true "geek" co-workers - a kinship that she likes
to have and an attitude that I understood.
There are quite a few of us out there. It's
jusk taking time for SWE and SysAdmin to become
a goal for more younger girls.
LOL... You mean a situation like three computers :)
on the floor in the living room so that you have
to be careful going to the couch that you don't
trip on the ethernet cables? That's what my
house is like... and it's all *my* doing.
I'm sure it doesn't make a great impression on
the men that have visited me.
My 486-66 is now working, and doing a nice job of it, as my masquerading router for my DSL line. Two ISA nics in it and all my machines use my DSL quite happily.
I just wish I had another machine to do the same for a friend of mine - she does NOT want to dedicate a new PII or PIII to the task.
I agree. The important thing is that the parents treat the children as important and pay attention for danger signs and crys for help... Most children *do* show signs of one or the other when they need attention.
A bigger problem is parent who have children and for one reason or another, obviously really don't WANT them. Parents who, more often than not, use the television or nintendo as a baby-sitter. I have seen many who (as someone stated above) treat their children more like roommates than their wards.
I prefer the idea of one parent at home for the first year or so - if possible. But if necessary (for financial OR personal happiness) I believe both parents can work and still have time to be good parents to their children.
I personally come from a mixed-environment. There were times when my mother stayed at home and times when both parents worked. Durring the ages that I can remember, I don't mind that my mother worked - both parents were home by 6:00 and both paid LOTS of attention to us in the evening and on weekends - in fact, my parents seldom did anything without us! I beleieve that kind of attention is what is important!
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but I found it mildly irritating that the subject of this thread has JUST the word "mothers" and not "fathers".
I *did* notice that the text of the message was "gender-fair" and mentioned parents most of the time.
It just makes me wonder sometimes... In a world where more often than not, both parents have to work to be able to pay all the bills, why are mothers more often held accountable for the actions and welfare of the children than fathers are?
(I'm not as upset as I might sound... just trying to make a point).
It sounds like windows NT controls ONLY the moving
map display and NOT the communications (as I first
feared). However, I'd hate to think that NT may
be guiding airplanes... especially out here in
california with all these mountains near the
airports. But, NT usually gives valid data until
it crashes... and if all the pilot loses is the
moving-map display, I know there are other navigation methods available.
Of course, there's still the question of WHY use
it at ALL???