From the about page:
The OpenOffice.org project is primarily sponsored by Sun Microsystems, which is the primary contributor of code to the Project. Our other major corporate contributors include Novell, RedHat, RedFlag CH2000, IBM, and Google. Additonally over 450,000 people from nearly every curve of the globe have joined this Project
Now, I have never contributed to OOo, so I can't speak for how they actually handle individual contributors. Many open source projects are not always very inviting to individual contributors, especially when their opinions differ from the core devs (see GNOME). But they certainly do accept code from others.
I'm getting tired of this blatant lie. OO is released under the LGPL. There, end of story - it's open source.
And while sun does have the copyright, the community plays a role in the development process.
Furthermore, some other projects do use OO code, eg neooffice
He did say it was in the midwest, no hurricanes there but plenty of tornados, so it's pretty obvious he's talking about tornados.
The guy had a brainfart, chill out a little whydontcha.
I guess one could examine the Linux drivers to figure out what they're doing and then port it over to [insert your flavour of OS here]. Which is much much easier than when you only have a blob. Having open source Linux drivers helps everyone, really.
I do agree that open specs are very important, but you take what you can get.
And that the lack of that feature is actually an advantage for platforms like PHP and Perl? Yes. The proper way of running a large number of prepared statements is by using stored procedures.
If, after publication of the standard, it is determined that licenses to all required patents are not so available, one option would be to withdraw the International Standard. Hopefully Microsoft will be stupid enough to do this, like maybe going after Sun or IBM for using it in OpenOffice...
Maybe not stronger but certainly MUCH more numerous. Here in Florida, for example, trying to start a union will get you immediately fired. There are no unions here that I know of.
Toy database for small, unimportant projects? I don't think so. Access is one of the most stable, reliable, and secure DB systems out there, as the following shows so well:
Among revelations contained in the memos was information that the Microsoft Access database used by the Diebold system to collect and calculate votes was not protected by a password. source
The GP responded to a post relating to security of a computer system vs the liberties granted to users of the system. As such I do not think it applies to real world attacks on civil liberties.
The funny part of the post (yes, it is indeed funny) is that he used a famous quote from Franklin dealing with civil liberties, applied it to computers, and reversed it.
The way I see it, it means "if you are willing to sacrifice your security for ease of use [liberty], you deserve neither."
It goes along with the "law" of security: Any gain in security will be offset by an equal loss of liberty.
(if the law hasn't been formulated before, it is now Sevi's Law:-p )
They are deadly to animals that normally eat jellies, as they resemble them when floating in the water. Most of these species are marine turtles, which are all threatened, some critically so. Seabirds have also been known to die from them.
However, it would be an exaggeration to say they kill the numbers of individuals and species listed in the article you linked, and I'm not sure a ban on them would be advisable solely for that purpose.
Given their other problems though, I think limits on their use should definitely be put in place.
They can spread malaria, and have been banned due to this in Uganda
and other African countries.
They are very unsightly.
They require people to clean them up.
Several countries have banned the use of plastic bags completly. As usual with anything relating to the environment most of the US trails behind, clinging to outdated views.
On a personal note, I was on a road trip through Texas & Mexico recently, and all along the highways and roads there were lots of plastic bags clinging to trees and bushes. Many beautiful desert scenes were completely ruined by them.
Granted, there were more in Mexico, but it didn't look like they pay people to clean up along the side of the road like they do in TX.
One-use European robot transport vs Russian Soyuz spacecraft The russians send cargo in progress, which is a one-time use spacecarft as well.
Regarding comparing the two, the same article states:
It [the ATV] is able to carry up to 9 tonnes of cargo into space, roughly three times as much as the Progress, and will be launched every 12-18 months by an Ariane 5 rocket.
Windows 95 wasn't all that great. I would say that 98 was much better than 95. I agree, but I would say that 95 was more of an improvement over its predecessor (win 3.1) than 98 was over 95.
Um, the 'big three' (ubuntu, fedora, suse) ALL fit on one CD, as they all have liveCDs. And on that one CD (ubuntu at least, been a while since I messed with the othe rones) you get:
An OS, a window manager, a desktop environment, tons of games, an office suite, an image editor, a DVD writer, a ton of 3D effects, a ton of screensavers, etc.
To compare, on the vista DVD, you get:
An OS+window manager+desktop environment (and you can't choose which ones), some games, a few screensavers, 3-4 3D effects, and that's pretty much it. And when installed it takes up what, like 10 gigs?
And as far as the 6 CDs or 1 DVD Linux downloads, these include ALL packages, so if you don't have internet access you can still install all your stuff. But Most of them you don't even need. I just set up a LAMP server today (no gui). I used CDs 1 and 2. That's it. And about 90% was from CD1.
So yeah, I would say Linux is pretty damn small indeed.
Did you read my comment? No, you didn't. Here it is again:
With more talk of desktop Linux these days, and a small but real increase in desktop market share (as reported from web stats), you would think some of that would be reflected in kernel development.
What I found equaly interesting in the report is the lack of mention of Dell and Ubuntu in the list. From most estimates Ubuntu leads the pack as far as desktop installs are concerned, and Dell had promised better driver support for their Linux PCs.
With more talk of desktop Linux these days, and a small but real increase in desktop market share (as reported from web stats), you would think some of that would be reflected in kernel development. But it looks as though big business and expensive hardware is still the main motivator in the business world.
Depends on location. A spacecraft exploring the inner solar system needs cooling and cooling. When shaded it needs heating, exposed to the sun it needs cooling.
says wikipedia about mariner 10 (mercury probe)
Passive thermal control, primarily a fixed opaque ceramic cloth sunshade, is utilized to maintain operating temperatures near the Sun. Radiators are built into the structure and the orbit is optimized to minimize infrared and visible light heating of the spacecraft from the surface of Mercury. Multilayer insulation, low conductivity couplings, and heaters are also used to maintain temperatures within operating limits.
You bring up good points, but it's also important to look at other types of usage.
For example, a sysadmin: it is expected to know at least basic Perl AND Python AND sh/ksh. Otherwise you simply can't get work done effectively.
Hell, even just within a standard Linux Gnome or KDE install you've got a good half-dozen languages all doing their thing, usually talking well to each other, but sometimes not.
Or web development: PHP, Perl, Python, and JS if on unixy stack; ASP, VB, JS, and.NET if on the 'other one' (more of a guess here. haven't touched windows servers in years). Oh and possibly some form of SQL too or maybe even ruby.
These aren't usually design decisions (hopefully), but in the real world you come across all sorts of funky setups. And this is reflected in job openings. I've very rarely seen something like "web developper position - only has to know PHP".
Now, for application development, it does make a lot more sense to really specialize, often you only need to deal with your own stuff. Usually a company will standardize on a language. And again looking at job postings, requiring only Java, C#, or borland are not that uncommon.
Personally, I really dig wxWidgets/wxPython for the cross platform abilities, but it seems QT is making good progress on that. Unfortunately, neither is very marketable... not saying you can't make money off it, but it is much harder to find open positions.
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Now, I have never contributed to OOo, so I can't speak for how they actually handle individual contributors. Many open source projects are not always very inviting to individual contributors, especially when their opinions differ from the core devs (see GNOME). But they certainly do accept code from others.
... and your company never thought about using a proper database?
I'm getting tired of this blatant lie. OO is released under the LGPL. There, end of story - it's open source.
And while sun does have the copyright, the community plays a role in the development process.
Furthermore, some other projects do use OO code, eg neooffice
He did say it was in the midwest, no hurricanes there but plenty of tornados, so it's pretty obvious he's talking about tornados.
The guy had a brainfart, chill out a little whydontcha.
Hans Reiser, is that you?
I do agree that open specs are very important, but you take what you can get.
Well I can dream can't I ?!?
Maybe not stronger but certainly MUCH more numerous. Here in Florida, for example, trying to start a union will get you immediately fired. There are no unions here that I know of.
The GP responded to a post relating to security of a computer system vs the liberties granted to users of the system. As such I do not think it applies to real world attacks on civil liberties.
:-p )
The funny part of the post (yes, it is indeed funny) is that he used a famous quote from Franklin dealing with civil liberties, applied it to computers, and reversed it.
The way I see it, it means "if you are willing to sacrifice your security for ease of use [liberty], you deserve neither."
It goes along with the "law" of security: Any gain in security will be offset by an equal loss of liberty.
(if the law hasn't been formulated before, it is now Sevi's Law
They are deadly to animals that normally eat jellies, as they resemble them when floating in the water. Most of these species are marine turtles, which are all threatened, some critically so. Seabirds have also been known to die from them.
However, it would be an exaggeration to say they kill the numbers of individuals and species listed in the article you linked, and I'm not sure a ban on them would be advisable solely for that purpose.
Given their other problems though, I think limits on their use should definitely be put in place.
- They kill sea turtles and other wildlife.
- They can spread malaria, and have been banned due to this in Uganda
and other African countries.
- They are very unsightly.
- They require people to clean them up.
Several countries have banned the use of plastic bags completly. As usual with anything relating to the environment most of the US trails behind, clinging to outdated views.On a personal note, I was on a road trip through Texas & Mexico recently, and all along the highways and roads there were lots of plastic bags clinging to trees and bushes. Many beautiful desert scenes were completely ruined by them.
Granted, there were more in Mexico, but it didn't look like they pay people to clean up along the side of the road like they do in TX.
As opposed to not releasing anything and having the community reinvent the wheel by reverse engineering everything?
chown root.root
What part of the above is a Significant change? it's easier to do than setting windows to show file extensions. Funniest thing I heard all day!!
Try getting an average user to use a CLI and see why for yourself.
Regarding comparing the two, the same article states: It [the ATV] is able to carry up to 9 tonnes of cargo into space, roughly three times as much as the Progress, and will be launched every 12-18 months by an Ariane 5 rocket.
- NT4 , something new, not completely ready
- 2000, mostly everything fixed
- XP, try a little too much and fail
- Vista, try way too much, fail completely
TFTFYUm, the 'big three' (ubuntu, fedora, suse) ALL fit on one CD, as they all have liveCDs. And on that one CD (ubuntu at least, been a while since I messed with the othe rones) you get:
An OS, a window manager, a desktop environment, tons of games, an office suite, an image editor, a DVD writer, a ton of 3D effects, a ton of screensavers, etc.
To compare, on the vista DVD, you get:
An OS+window manager+desktop environment (and you can't choose which ones), some games, a few screensavers, 3-4 3D effects, and that's pretty much it. And when installed it takes up what, like 10 gigs?
And as far as the 6 CDs or 1 DVD Linux downloads, these include ALL packages, so if you don't have internet access you can still install all your stuff. But Most of them you don't even need. I just set up a LAMP server today (no gui). I used CDs 1 and 2. That's it. And about 90% was from CD1. So yeah, I would say Linux is pretty damn small indeed.
What I found equaly interesting in the report is the lack of mention of Dell and Ubuntu in the list. From most estimates Ubuntu leads the pack as far as desktop installs are concerned, and Dell had promised better driver support for their Linux PCs.
With more talk of desktop Linux these days, and a small but real increase in desktop market share (as reported from web stats), you would think some of that would be reflected in kernel development. But it looks as though big business and expensive hardware is still the main motivator in the business world.
says wikipedia about mariner 10 (mercury probe) Passive thermal control, primarily a fixed opaque ceramic cloth sunshade, is utilized to maintain operating temperatures near the Sun. Radiators are built into the structure and the orbit is optimized to minimize infrared and visible light heating of the spacecraft from the surface of Mercury. Multilayer insulation, low conductivity couplings, and heaters are also used to maintain temperatures within operating limits.
You bring up good points, but it's also important to look at other types of usage.
.NET if on the 'other one' (more of a guess here. haven't touched windows servers in years). Oh and possibly some form of SQL too or maybe even ruby.
... not saying you can't make money off it, but it is much harder to find open positions.
For example, a sysadmin: it is expected to know at least basic Perl AND Python AND sh/ksh. Otherwise you simply can't get work done effectively.
Hell, even just within a standard Linux Gnome or KDE install you've got a good half-dozen languages all doing their thing, usually talking well to each other, but sometimes not.
Or web development: PHP, Perl, Python, and JS if on unixy stack; ASP, VB, JS, and
These aren't usually design decisions (hopefully), but in the real world you come across all sorts of funky setups. And this is reflected in job openings. I've very rarely seen something like "web developper position - only has to know PHP".
Now, for application development, it does make a lot more sense to really specialize, often you only need to deal with your own stuff. Usually a company will standardize on a language. And again looking at job postings, requiring only Java, C#, or borland are not that uncommon.
Personally, I really dig wxWidgets/wxPython for the cross platform abilities, but it seems QT is making good progress on that. Unfortunately, neither is very marketable