Oh for example in Canada a murder trial just finished and one of the pieces of evidence (that were thrown out on technical grounds) was that the suspect has searched for kiddy rape/porn. Guy admits to being guilty I think (argument was just whether or not he or his girlfriend was the one that came up with the idea and used the hammer), but still say he was innocent but a pervert. Sure get him on the kiddy porn but I'm sure he'd wish they couldn't even find it in the first place since it makes him look like a likely candidate for the murder as well. Social search just adds another layer of potential screw ups leaving incriminating evidence around.
It is the privacy side of things that are worrisome I think. Social search sounds great until you forget it is broadcasting and search for something embarrassing.
Perhaps. I don't know I think bittorrent is still better than the file storage sites: I don't want to pay and search still seems a little crappy compared to even say what is built into Vuze. The problem as a user: you don't know your tech is comprimised until the police start knocking on doors. It could take months for them to get around to knocking on your door for stuff you did last year. Who knows how long of logs they have before they start having the shackdown parties?
It is a two pronged attack I think. MIAA/RIAA sue the crap out of those they catch. This company promises to dramatically increase the number of people that are caught. Even if it only works for a month say they nab ~1M people pirating stuff. How many people will stop sharing because it is too risky. How much faith are you going to but into the next "untrackable" p2p method? They don't have to stop it from being possible to get away with pirating they just have to make the expected cost of pirating more expensive than it is to just go out and buy, rent or borrow the legit product.
"Scotty engage... have you done it, are we going... oh there goes." That said no need for inertial dampers if you are accelerating at 0.001 m/s^2. (probably being optimistic with a ship the size of the enterprise).
I didn't mean it as a knock on Linux. The device I was mentioning explicitly presented a watered down OS that could only check mail and internet. Anything else you had to but into a "real" OS whether windows or a *nix variant.
People might chose to dual boot especially since they presumably have Linux installed and working. Kind of a sneaky way of getting users: by installing it first and then giving people the option to uninstall... hmm who else does that?;) The (Asus?) systems a while back that were supposed to quick boot into linux for surfing would be another way... Linux becomes sort of a BIOS++ for when you don't want to boot all the way into your "real" OS. It remains to see once they are dual booted how often people will fire up the machine in Linux mode. Regardless in my mind if the majority of people end up single or dual booting these boxes Linux hasn't one. It is shipping the box and people not feeling the need to install a different OS that will make it a win for Linux.
Yep and I agree as a guy that was a Linux and unix admin for 4 years. Heck my current work for the last 20 years the dominant software has run on UNIX and users still can't figure out basic tasks (like setting their monitor power off time) that don't have a button on the main app for them. I'm a ninja because I can write one line bash scripts rather than pull out a notebook and manually right down results that match my search:-)
I think a lot of people won't want windows 8 anyways. If they have the choice between Win 7 (which they know and can pirate) versus using Linux (which they know nothing about and all their friends don't have) they'll go with the pirated Win 7 9/10 times I bet. Metro is great for an appstore model but are the people that aren't willing to pay the extra 50-100 for their new computer to come with a legit version of the OS going to be spending much time downloading and paying for things like Angry Birds? Those things will stay on the phone mostly. Full blown apps will continue to be desktop mode apps where you can pirate them and run them on WIn 7 for a long time to come (~10 years). Some full blown apps will show up for metro but I don't thing much: a touch centric model is just not efficient for doing any serious work. You can click on a movie and play it, zoom etc. But you aren't going to be doing video editing with a touch screen any time soon.
Exactly. With linux you are the test lab. With MS they start shipping things to OEMs a good couple years before it gets released, hold their hands while they figure out how to get their crap working and often shove the driver right into the OS disk so you have no worries. To me the $100 for the OS for a savings for a couple hours of troubleshooting hardware issues is worth it: my time is worth more than that. Not to mention future hiccups. Someone tosses over a thumb drive and... oh crap my system doesn't see it, hold on while I find out what driver I need so I can see your encryption... oh wait a minute... Windows doesn't happen (at least never to me) since that is the assumed OS for the device no pow wows around your computer while you figure out how to do something that was supposed to be the quick way.
Haha. Also volume. It is simpler to just image everything the same rather than having two different product lines, going through all the fun of figuring out how to make linux run smoothy on a system that will only sell ~5% of the volume. They might make super low end systems for Linux though which would make them cheaper but not really directly comparable (because *nix will run on crap graphics doesn't mean you want crap graphics for example).
Really how many? Going from the 90%+ OS is always going to be more. That is the only way market share can grow for the little guy. It does happen but I know of very few people other than *nix admins at an office that completely blast away their Win OS. They dual boot and often Win is the primary OS whenever it is time to "get something done" (aka write resumes do work, fill out taxes etc etc) with Linux the playing around OS to learn how things work, learn a bit about coding etc.
I disagree with the first paragraph but time will tell. It wasn't clear that Windows was going to beat OS/2 in the early nineties so people could have just "picked wrong". If they really are going to get 5% market share with preloaded boxes word will get out it will be like Apple not too long ago. People might not have bought them because they fear compatiblity issues with Win apps and couldn't install windows on them (PPC days). With a PC model that supports Windows people won't have that fear and if it is the cheaper way to get the box people will be all over them and then just install windows.
Yeah, and by the time you have the machine working good enough you can get a console and network connection to get the other lshw over you probably have figured out the issue.
I had the same problem with linux the last time I used it (~2 years ago). Three identical boxes at work. Other two running Ubuntu (10.10 I think it was at the time), no problems installing everything worked. My box: blam no graphics. Just a black screen right after POST. I ended up having to boot into safe mode and after much searching on line change some flags in the linux driver. I still don't get why the other boxes it worked fine with same hardware but that is the quirks. That said random crap happens in Windows land too, eg. IT guy installed new graphics card on a machine on Friday and the network card got corrupted (has to happen at 8pm on a Friday:-)). Crap happens but in my experience hardware related crap happens more often with Linux, sound not working, wifi, graphics etc. It is a learning experience pretty much everytime I install it on a different machine.
Speaking of "no Microsoft tax" I'm curious how many of those 5% of computers will be running windows in less than a year? People will go with the cheap option then get a pirated copy of windows.
Other methods of transport don't require a two hour line and an anal probe to use. Hijacking: yeah a problem but eventually they'll run out of fuel and have to land. Suicidal idiots: like an idiot couldn't switch to a restaurant or train instead.
Metal/exploisive detectors and no carry-ons might be a solution: you can scan cargo much more thoroughly and since people aren't carrying stuff all they can carry for weapons is what they can hoop. I say terrorists need all the hooping the can get in preparation for Gitmo.
Yep. I do web and WPF based apps in C# and SQL Server Express all day. The apps are pretty good even for professional work as long as you don't need lots of prebaked things as the project types are limited. But a XBAP or WPF app is no problem. Office apps you are kind of stuck using the COM interop directly rather than having a prebaked: office extension project but, mah I do custom work targeting lots of non-MS data-stores so I don't care.
The compiler is also callable from the command line and you can get (eg. mono-develop) or build yourself an IDE other than VS to code in their languages.
Mah. You might have been equally pissed to have to "pay" for an included DVD playback app in an OS for a tablet with no optical drive. Things are getting more modular and more "micro-payments" get used to it. Metro is entirely designed as a model to push small purchases for everything rather than big apps that do several things and cost more.
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Oh for example in Canada a murder trial just finished and one of the pieces of evidence (that were thrown out on technical grounds) was that the suspect has searched for kiddy rape/porn. Guy admits to being guilty I think (argument was just whether or not he or his girlfriend was the one that came up with the idea and used the hammer), but still say he was innocent but a pervert. Sure get him on the kiddy porn but I'm sure he'd wish they couldn't even find it in the first place since it makes him look like a likely candidate for the murder as well. Social search just adds another layer of potential screw ups leaving incriminating evidence around.
It is the privacy side of things that are worrisome I think. Social search sounds great until you forget it is broadcasting and search for something embarrassing.
sentenced to have a set of webcams in is house for the next 10 years.
What you don't want to spend your break finding out what your second cousin's best friend found funny the other day? Shame on you.
Perhaps. I don't know I think bittorrent is still better than the file storage sites: I don't want to pay and search still seems a little crappy compared to even say what is built into Vuze. The problem as a user: you don't know your tech is comprimised until the police start knocking on doors. It could take months for them to get around to knocking on your door for stuff you did last year. Who knows how long of logs they have before they start having the shackdown parties?
It is a two pronged attack I think. MIAA/RIAA sue the crap out of those they catch. This company promises to dramatically increase the number of people that are caught. Even if it only works for a month say they nab ~1M people pirating stuff. How many people will stop sharing because it is too risky. How much faith are you going to but into the next "untrackable" p2p method? They don't have to stop it from being possible to get away with pirating they just have to make the expected cost of pirating more expensive than it is to just go out and buy, rent or borrow the legit product.
"Scotty engage ... have you done it, are we going ... oh there goes." That said no need for inertial dampers if you are accelerating at 0.001 m/s^2. (probably being optimistic with a ship the size of the enterprise).
Free as in beer?
I didn't mean it as a knock on Linux. The device I was mentioning explicitly presented a watered down OS that could only check mail and internet. Anything else you had to but into a "real" OS whether windows or a *nix variant.
People might chose to dual boot especially since they presumably have Linux installed and working. Kind of a sneaky way of getting users: by installing it first and then giving people the option to uninstall ... hmm who else does that? ;) The (Asus?) systems a while back that were supposed to quick boot into linux for surfing would be another way ... Linux becomes sort of a BIOS++ for when you don't want to boot all the way into your "real" OS. It remains to see once they are dual booted how often people will fire up the machine in Linux mode. Regardless in my mind if the majority of people end up single or dual booting these boxes Linux hasn't one. It is shipping the box and people not feeling the need to install a different OS that will make it a win for Linux.
Yep and I agree as a guy that was a Linux and unix admin for 4 years. Heck my current work for the last 20 years the dominant software has run on UNIX and users still can't figure out basic tasks (like setting their monitor power off time) that don't have a button on the main app for them. I'm a ninja because I can write one line bash scripts rather than pull out a notebook and manually right down results that match my search :-)
I think a lot of people won't want windows 8 anyways. If they have the choice between Win 7 (which they know and can pirate) versus using Linux (which they know nothing about and all their friends don't have) they'll go with the pirated Win 7 9/10 times I bet. Metro is great for an appstore model but are the people that aren't willing to pay the extra 50-100 for their new computer to come with a legit version of the OS going to be spending much time downloading and paying for things like Angry Birds? Those things will stay on the phone mostly. Full blown apps will continue to be desktop mode apps where you can pirate them and run them on WIn 7 for a long time to come (~10 years). Some full blown apps will show up for metro but I don't thing much: a touch centric model is just not efficient for doing any serious work. You can click on a movie and play it, zoom etc. But you aren't going to be doing video editing with a touch screen any time soon.
Exactly. With linux you are the test lab. With MS they start shipping things to OEMs a good couple years before it gets released, hold their hands while they figure out how to get their crap working and often shove the driver right into the OS disk so you have no worries. To me the $100 for the OS for a savings for a couple hours of troubleshooting hardware issues is worth it: my time is worth more than that. Not to mention future hiccups. Someone tosses over a thumb drive and ... oh crap my system doesn't see it, hold on while I find out what driver I need so I can see your encryption ... oh wait a minute ... Windows doesn't happen (at least never to me) since that is the assumed OS for the device no pow wows around your computer while you figure out how to do something that was supposed to be the quick way.
Haha. Also volume. It is simpler to just image everything the same rather than having two different product lines, going through all the fun of figuring out how to make linux run smoothy on a system that will only sell ~5% of the volume. They might make super low end systems for Linux though which would make them cheaper but not really directly comparable (because *nix will run on crap graphics doesn't mean you want crap graphics for example).
Really how many? Going from the 90%+ OS is always going to be more. That is the only way market share can grow for the little guy. It does happen but I know of very few people other than *nix admins at an office that completely blast away their Win OS. They dual boot and often Win is the primary OS whenever it is time to "get something done" (aka write resumes do work, fill out taxes etc etc) with Linux the playing around OS to learn how things work, learn a bit about coding etc.
I disagree with the first paragraph but time will tell. It wasn't clear that Windows was going to beat OS/2 in the early nineties so people could have just "picked wrong". If they really are going to get 5% market share with preloaded boxes word will get out it will be like Apple not too long ago. People might not have bought them because they fear compatiblity issues with Win apps and couldn't install windows on them (PPC days). With a PC model that supports Windows people won't have that fear and if it is the cheaper way to get the box people will be all over them and then just install windows.
Yeah, and by the time you have the machine working good enough you can get a console and network connection to get the other lshw over you probably have figured out the issue.
I had the same problem with linux the last time I used it (~2 years ago). Three identical boxes at work. Other two running Ubuntu (10.10 I think it was at the time), no problems installing everything worked. My box: blam no graphics. Just a black screen right after POST. I ended up having to boot into safe mode and after much searching on line change some flags in the linux driver. I still don't get why the other boxes it worked fine with same hardware but that is the quirks. That said random crap happens in Windows land too, eg. IT guy installed new graphics card on a machine on Friday and the network card got corrupted (has to happen at 8pm on a Friday :-)). Crap happens but in my experience hardware related crap happens more often with Linux, sound not working, wifi, graphics etc. It is a learning experience pretty much everytime I install it on a different machine.
Speaking of "no Microsoft tax" I'm curious how many of those 5% of computers will be running windows in less than a year? People will go with the cheap option then get a pirated copy of windows.
Like southern republicans?
How about derail a train near a populated area? Or blowup an oil tanker near a coast line and create something similar to the Halifax explosion?
An event that happened once doesn't justify the expense both in terms of money and people's freedom. One data point doesn't a trend make.
Other methods of transport don't require a two hour line and an anal probe to use. Hijacking: yeah a problem but eventually they'll run out of fuel and have to land. Suicidal idiots: like an idiot couldn't switch to a restaurant or train instead.
Metal/exploisive detectors and no carry-ons might be a solution: you can scan cargo much more thoroughly and since people aren't carrying stuff all they can carry for weapons is what they can hoop. I say terrorists need all the hooping the can get in preparation for Gitmo.
Yep. I do web and WPF based apps in C# and SQL Server Express all day. The apps are pretty good even for professional work as long as you don't need lots of prebaked things as the project types are limited. But a XBAP or WPF app is no problem. Office apps you are kind of stuck using the COM interop directly rather than having a prebaked: office extension project but, mah I do custom work targeting lots of non-MS data-stores so I don't care.
The compiler is also callable from the command line and you can get (eg. mono-develop) or build yourself an IDE other than VS to code in their languages.
Mah. You might have been equally pissed to have to "pay" for an included DVD playback app in an OS for a tablet with no optical drive. Things are getting more modular and more "micro-payments" get used to it. Metro is entirely designed as a model to push small purchases for everything rather than big apps that do several things and cost more.
I know a lot of my soldiers sadly have died before my marriage.