"claw our way to positions that many men just "get" by virtue of being male."
That is the typical, naive opinion. Have you considered how much time a male may spend advancing his career (constantly researching new technologies, mastering said technologies, programming on the side, graduate school,...)? Just because you didn't get a job offer doesn't mean you can play the gender card.
Unfortunately, women sometimes do get turned down just because of their gender. However, after working in the industry for many years, and conducting many technical interviews, I can sometimes understand this stereotype. Typically, in my experience, women engineers haven't been as technically proficient as their male counterparts. I'm not just saying that, where I have worked on numerous projects to back that statement up (and interviewed many female candidates for my team).
While we're on the topic, let's talk about all of the hand outs minorities, including women, get. In my industry, minorities typically start at a higher salary. Is that fair?...no. Another interesting fact, if I were to refer a minority, I would get double the referral bonus compared to referring a white male. What kind of BS is that? At a previous company, a candidate for hire would be assessed based on points....Minorities would get an automatic +20 points. 'Anonymous Coward' above forgot to mention how being a female sometimes gives her an unfair advantage.
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"claw our way to positions that many men just "get" by virtue of being male." That is the typical, naive opinion. Have you considered how much time a male may spend advancing his career (constantly researching new technologies, mastering said technologies, programming on the side, graduate school, ...)? Just because you didn't get a job offer doesn't mean you can play the gender card.
Unfortunately, women sometimes do get turned down just because of their gender. However, after working in the industry for many years, and conducting many technical interviews, I can sometimes understand this stereotype. Typically, in my experience, women engineers haven't been as technically proficient as their male counterparts. I'm not just saying that, where I have worked on numerous projects to back that statement up (and interviewed many female candidates for my team).
While we're on the topic, let's talk about all of the hand outs minorities, including women, get. In my industry, minorities typically start at a higher salary. Is that fair?...no. Another interesting fact, if I were to refer a minority, I would get double the referral bonus compared to referring a white male. What kind of BS is that? At a previous company, a candidate for hire would be assessed based on points....Minorities would get an automatic +20 points. 'Anonymous Coward' above forgot to mention how being a female sometimes gives her an unfair advantage.
Well said, morari. I too share the same school of thought. I'm sick of hearing sob stories, much like those contained in the replies to your post.