One of the deceased driver's family members has stated publicly that he complained multiple times about the autopilot failure at that exact location. He knew it had a high failure rate at that fork in the road, yet he did not pay attention enough to save his life. At the end of the day, everyone is responsible for themselves. Don't want to die? Then don't ignore known dangers.
I found a fork in the freeway in Fort Lauderdale at which my Model S autopilot would usually do the wrong thing and drive straight down the center of the fork. I still use autopilot at every opportunity because it is a nice feature. How am I still alive? Every time I came to that location, I made sure to have hands on the wheel and eyes on the road -- every time, no exceptions. It's not magic. I took responsibility for myself and corrected the car at that location every time it went astray.
We don't even need a black box to know the guy was not paying attention. His death is the irrefutable proof. He already knew in advance that there was a dangerous section of road for autopilot control, yet he did not give the attention required while driving to save himself. I don't want to die on the road, so I pay attention. Tesla has never claimed that drivers can ignore the road and use their hands for unimportant tasks while driving. They have always stressed the opposite, and they have increased autopilot nanny features many times to prevent drivers from ignoring the road. That autopilot was involved is basically irrelevant. If, on my daily drive to work, I were driving my car with my knee as I reached into the back to juggle stuff back there, all while approaching a 90 degree curve that turns just before a 100 foot cliff, who should my family blame when I plunge off that cliff and die at the bottom?
Tesla is only a sensational media target because people seek to manipulate its stock and profit.
Exactly what I was thinking. I remember growing up in CA and being taught the earth quake drill in preschool and first grade. Correct response to something like an earth quake needs to come from instinct. If the instinct isn't there, you're left with the higher brain asking, "Duh... what's going on? Am I supposed to do something?", and never getting an answer. Rationalization and cognitive brain function are great for day-to-day, but they're about as useful for fight/flight as an 18-wheeler is helpful in moving to the house across the street.
It's not that the case that the other people were cool and collected, it's that they were deer in the headlights.
Where most of them are obscured from the public eye, this is an obvious case of acute cronyism, America's greatest threat. Occupiers around the nation and world, as international fliers are subject to the machines too, should be demanding Michael Chertoff's head on a spike. I'd join the occupy movement if it was outspoken about obvious, distinct threats like this one.
treating some one nicely might encourage that person to treat you nicely
You are right, that is an example of cause and effect, and it's an example of karma. Nothing supernatural about it. That was your point, right?
Karma is about mystical/supernatural cause and effect.
Who ever told you that karma has to be supernatural? How much of your view was formed through personal exploration versus conditioned semantics impressed upon you by friends or other social constructs? Karma is observable in the most obvious facets of life. Some people see it at a much deeper, more subtle level too.
Otherwise, cause and effect is a measurable physical process.
Only in the most simple cases. Do you honestly think that you or any other human can measure the most complex cause and effect relationships that the universe has to offer? HaHa!
I'm hoping that what you really meant to address is the situations in which people tend to see only the effect portion of karma while living in ignorance to the cause portion of it. That is a delusional approach to karma.
I saw a great interview interview of Jesse Ventura regarding this subject. If ever he were to run for El Senor Presidente, I would vote for him without a second thought. The gist of it was that the U.S. govt now produces some 16M classified documents a year. How the hell can that be? Because every document that might offend the advocates of freedom is easily protected under the guise of national security. That guy is as close to a modern day Jefferson or Franklin as I've ever seen.
I too have taken an interest in Islam. It is the only major religion I know that literally promotes genocide, hatred, subjugation and warfare. There is no talk of peace, only conquer.
There is one huge saving-grace with Apple OSs that easily put them in the cheaper bucket for a household of many machines. OSX does not have any of Microsoft's onerous licensing, activation, genuine disadvantage crap. Apple's license permits a single purchase of OSX to be installed on at least three machines (it might be more). There is nothing stopping you from installing it on 12 machines if you desire. You could go through four point releases of OSX, applied to two machines, for considerably less than two copies of Vista Ultimate.
Seriously, even if that weren't the case, dealing with Windows is a nightmare. I have no problem admitting that I pay more for Apple hardware. I don't show my computer off. When I go to a coffee shop it's full of artists who also own Macs, so there is no gloat factor. But the relief from dealing with Windows and Microsoft issues is a tremendous return on the value of my Apple hardware + software. Why would I crawl back into the hands of my torturous captors if nothing is stopping me from running like hell?
Let me see... money or peace of mind... hmm..... A typical nice vacation from work/life costs $1k-$2k for a mere week or two away from the drudgery. The extra $1k I put toward my macbook pro has already yielded a great deal more than 80 hours of relief. Your last paragraph said it well. Every single dollar extra that went toward my Apple gear has paid off, and I have not regretted paying more for it even one second. Tell me, is everything I just said "totally crazy" or "desperate for redemption" as you suggest?
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Came here to say the same thing. This sounds like the science of a jr. high or high school teacher.
One of the deceased driver's family members has stated publicly that he complained multiple times about the autopilot failure at that exact location. He knew it had a high failure rate at that fork in the road, yet he did not pay attention enough to save his life. At the end of the day, everyone is responsible for themselves. Don't want to die? Then don't ignore known dangers.
I found a fork in the freeway in Fort Lauderdale at which my Model S autopilot would usually do the wrong thing and drive straight down the center of the fork. I still use autopilot at every opportunity because it is a nice feature. How am I still alive? Every time I came to that location, I made sure to have hands on the wheel and eyes on the road -- every time, no exceptions. It's not magic. I took responsibility for myself and corrected the car at that location every time it went astray.
We don't even need a black box to know the guy was not paying attention. His death is the irrefutable proof. He already knew in advance that there was a dangerous section of road for autopilot control, yet he did not give the attention required while driving to save himself. I don't want to die on the road, so I pay attention. Tesla has never claimed that drivers can ignore the road and use their hands for unimportant tasks while driving. They have always stressed the opposite, and they have increased autopilot nanny features many times to prevent drivers from ignoring the road. That autopilot was involved is basically irrelevant. If, on my daily drive to work, I were driving my car with my knee as I reached into the back to juggle stuff back there, all while approaching a 90 degree curve that turns just before a 100 foot cliff, who should my family blame when I plunge off that cliff and die at the bottom?
Tesla is only a sensational media target because people seek to manipulate its stock and profit.
Exactly what I was thinking. I remember growing up in CA and being taught the earth quake drill in preschool and first grade. Correct response to something like an earth quake needs to come from instinct. If the instinct isn't there, you're left with the higher brain asking, "Duh... what's going on? Am I supposed to do something?", and never getting an answer. Rationalization and cognitive brain function are great for day-to-day, but they're about as useful for fight/flight as an 18-wheeler is helpful in moving to the house across the street. It's not that the case that the other people were cool and collected, it's that they were deer in the headlights.
Where most of them are obscured from the public eye, this is an obvious case of acute cronyism, America's greatest threat. Occupiers around the nation and world, as international fliers are subject to the machines too, should be demanding Michael Chertoff's head on a spike. I'd join the occupy movement if it was outspoken about obvious, distinct threats like this one.
treating some one nicely might encourage that person to treat you nicely
You are right, that is an example of cause and effect, and it's an example of karma. Nothing supernatural about it. That was your point, right?
Karma is about mystical/supernatural cause and effect.
Who ever told you that karma has to be supernatural? How much of your view was formed through personal exploration versus conditioned semantics impressed upon you by friends or other social constructs? Karma is observable in the most obvious facets of life. Some people see it at a much deeper, more subtle level too.
Otherwise, cause and effect is a measurable physical process.
Only in the most simple cases. Do you honestly think that you or any other human can measure the most complex cause and effect relationships that the universe has to offer? HaHa!
I'm hoping that what you really meant to address is the situations in which people tend to see only the effect portion of karma while living in ignorance to the cause portion of it. That is a delusional approach to karma.
I saw a great interview interview of Jesse Ventura regarding this subject. If ever he were to run for El Senor Presidente, I would vote for him without a second thought. The gist of it was that the U.S. govt now produces some 16M classified documents a year. How the hell can that be? Because every document that might offend the advocates of freedom is easily protected under the guise of national security. That guy is as close to a modern day Jefferson or Franklin as I've ever seen.
Do you believe in Cause & Effect? If so, then you believe in karma. Simple as that. Aside from that misunderstanding, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Mod parent up, PLEASE!
I too have taken an interest in Islam. It is the only major religion I know that literally promotes genocide, hatred, subjugation and warfare. There is no talk of peace, only conquer.
There is one huge saving-grace with Apple OSs that easily put them in the cheaper bucket for a household of many machines. OSX does not have any of Microsoft's onerous licensing, activation, genuine disadvantage crap. Apple's license permits a single purchase of OSX to be installed on at least three machines (it might be more). There is nothing stopping you from installing it on 12 machines if you desire. You could go through four point releases of OSX, applied to two machines, for considerably less than two copies of Vista Ultimate.
Seriously, even if that weren't the case, dealing with Windows is a nightmare. I have no problem admitting that I pay more for Apple hardware. I don't show my computer off. When I go to a coffee shop it's full of artists who also own Macs, so there is no gloat factor. But the relief from dealing with Windows and Microsoft issues is a tremendous return on the value of my Apple hardware + software. Why would I crawl back into the hands of my torturous captors if nothing is stopping me from running like hell?
Let me see... money or peace of mind... hmm..... A typical nice vacation from work/life costs $1k-$2k for a mere week or two away from the drudgery. The extra $1k I put toward my macbook pro has already yielded a great deal more than 80 hours of relief. Your last paragraph said it well. Every single dollar extra that went toward my Apple gear has paid off, and I have not regretted paying more for it even one second. Tell me, is everything I just said "totally crazy" or "desperate for redemption" as you suggest?