Good harddisk for silent systems, if you don't need disk space and only moderate performance:
IBM DCHS-04. 4 gig scsi ultra-wide disk. Cheap, about $30 if you look (try froogle). You can hear it spin up (that's quite loud), you can hear it seek, but idling it really is silent.
It's also built to survive a thermonuclear apocalypse.
a simpler idea: kill the fan, open your box. only 1 of my machines actually have a fully closed case at any given moment, thats because its on the floor.
from my expirence, the case only traps dust inside. and if you mess with your hardware as often as i do, its best to leave it open anyway.
another thought: why do people care about a small amount of noise? i actually like the noise it puts out. last time i turned my machine off, i had to turn the radio on to add a little ambience.
2 points: 1:ever heard of the word "wireless" before? as soon as we can...
2:a much more likely reaction would be a reset of the infrastructure, with a black-hole list of nodes which are no longer trusted. remeber the hacker's manefesto? You can stop one (whether a node or a whole net), but not all.
freedom of religion. one reason this country was even created in the first place was so people could stop being annoyed over religious beliefs, and instead just believe whatever they want. and if someone wants to not believe at all, would that make any difference? i really don't think so (belief == NULL is just as valid as belief == blah, in my way of thought), but if you want to believe differently, go right ahead. im not going to force you one way or another, unlike what you are suggesting...
if that isn't enough, does "seperation of church and state" help any?
ok, i downloaded it, and have to say that it must be the worst.pdf file ive seen to date. first. its huge. and little content... ive seen people pack 100+ pages of detailed drawings of electrical components into a file of comparable size, this has only 36. took about 6 minutes (yes, i timed it) to load the first page. page 4-5 was almost identical to page 1, just differnet format... and for the most part it gets -42, propaganda on the moderator list. this one most definatly gets the/dev/null treatment.
my way of playing hardball: drop the fscking server into the ipchains.deny. of course, some browsers don't quite like this, so a better workaround is used: instead of having the firewall route traffic from the internal lan to the offending banner server, send it to another server that simply sends a blank.png no matter what you ask of it. something like that. hmm.... another thing for the to-do list.
Make it a million-node Beowulf cluster! Not a bad idea. pick up a distributed.net client and crack the current project in under an hour right in front of their noses, yes, something like THAT would really get them stirred up.
easy. things will balance themselves. when the recording industry finially gets the idea that spreading music for free isn't going to stop, well, they are going to have to think of a way to still get paid while letting the music spread this way. actually, i wouldn't be surprised that artists begin making money from the live shows while giving the albums away. hey, it could happen. while your at it, look at this. maybe youll get the idea, artists usually make more money from the tours already because of the way that labels rip them off.
but please don't think that i support not paying the musician. mp3's make a great try-before-you-buy thing like shareware... thats how mp3.com works.
maybe setting up a few encrypted/compressed tunnels to outside the country might help to get around it. only thing im worried about is if germany does it, things are bad, and then the chance for other countries to try it will increase, making things REALLY bad.
or maybe we could just say "screw it all" and start massive ham-radio network that all for-profit organizations/individuals, organizations/individuals that represent for-profit groups, and governments are blocked from. give them some of their own ideas. hey... maybe ipv6 could actually get USED for once!
ok, by throwing around the weight of my almight cable modem (no offense, dialup users), i was able to get the entire hitler, cattle mutilation, and tesla reports and most of the einstien one is in progress. if anyone's desprate for them email me.
this isn't entirely on topic, but i decided i might as well spread a little more about edison, and a bit on the history of fud. take the electric chair: once a rather common form of execution, now dying off because the death is sometimes a little more gruesome then intended. now edison invinted the electric chair... but not at first. the government, looking at new forms of execution, asked edison to build a form of capital punishment based on electricity. he refused without any thought, horrified at the idea. but around the same time he had fud campains against westinghouse, which sold the ac based power systems used widely today. edison sold a similar system based on dc, which was vastly inferior. it required huge wires, needed a sub station every 100 or so yards, and was quite bulky and even kinda dangerous. his fud campain was simple: he electrocuted things like dogs and such in front of the public with westinghouse current. so, some time after the government gave him the request, he remembered the fud and decided to expand it a little to include humans.... and he made sure "old sparky" was built with only westinghouse equipment. now what do you think of the inventor?
i tried that myself, but the binary segfaulted and the source didn't compile on my suse 6.2 box, so dumped the tarballs onto the ftp to let them rot (like everything else i download.) would you think it worth the effort to get it to run?
Odd.and the page is simply a link. Looks like this guy registered the domain name for the project. We need some more information on what this guy is doing before an honest opinion could be made.
preventing the government from making up fictional victims is more important than protecting the real victims who are sacrificed or muted.
Maybe this is true, but it may be possible to still stop many of the "sacrifices" you refer to. How do you get around this? Choose the right tool for the job. Look at the above comment. If you have major smoking-gun evidence, what need do you have for the name of the person who pointed it out? On the other hand, if a witness is all you have, then the name should be required...
We wil run a campaign to get people to modify their pages to detect when a browser is useing censorware and add pronography to the page!
i once saw a site, liquid.lithium.com, or maybe lithium.liquid.com (something like that!). it was just a litestep themes site and has sence been rendered 404 compliant. anyway, it had every word you would expect to find in a porn site on the meta tags. maybe that would be all you need to cause censorware to block the site, rather then actually detecting censorware softs. how would you go about checking for the program in html/java/activex, anyway?
Well, even if the members won't have much power, think about it. icann gave in. they let us get a little farther, but not what we want. If something is pushed into giving you a little of what you want, but not all, what do you do? Just sit there and do nothing? No, you keep pushing, that's what. So we join the membership and make a fuss until they actually give us some say.
On a side note, yes, post it up on icannt. people need to know this stuff.
Well, well, well.... look at this, from the article. Maybe it wouldn't be to hard:
Linder said the patent could even be broad enough to cover single links that would simply go from an affiliate to Amazon's home page, instead of to specific items.
You want an English version? Here you go, provided by an anonymous coward a while back, not sure what artical. I just happened to save it. Re:So where can we get the code *tonight* ? (Score:5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Mon Dec 27, '99 09:22 PM EDT (#258) This is from: http://www.2600.com/news/1999/1112-files/crypto.gq .nu/ Even if the *can* get all the copies of the sourcecode (not bloody likely) off the net... below is the general crypto system used... Vengence. 0 General disclaimer. This information is provided as is, with no warranties on its accuracy or usability. It is based on a piece of source code claiming to be the css algorithms, and which have since been confirmed to interoperate with the CSS system. The author has not read any official CSS documentation, and any errors in the terminology is a result of this. This information has not to the knowledge of the author been made available through breaches of the DVD consortium Non Disclosure Agreement. 1 System overview. Every DVD player is equipped with a small set of player keys. When presented with a new disc, the player will attempt to decrypt the contents with the set of keys it possesses. Every disk has a disk key data block that is organized as follows: 5 bytes hash of decrypted disk key ( hash ) disk key encrypted with player key 1 (dk1 ) disk key encrypted with player key 2 (dk2 )... disk key encrypted with player key 409 (dk409) Suppose the player has a valid key for slot 213, it will calculate (1) Kd = DA( dk213 , Kp213 ) To verify that Kd is correct, the following check is done, if the check fails, it will try the next player key. (2) Kd = DA( hash , Kd ) An obvious weakness stems from this check, by trying all 240 possible Kd, disk key can be deduced without knowing any valid player key. As will be shown later, this attack can be carried out with a complexity of 225, making such an attack feasible in runtime applications. Another obvious attack is that by having 1 working player key, other player keys can be derived through a similar search. This can be done offline, also keys obtained from the former attack can be used as a starting point. To decrypt the contents an additional key tk - the title key is decrypted with the now decrypted and verified disk key. (3) Kt = DB( tk, Kd) Each sector of the data files is the optionally encrypted by a key that is derived from Kt by exclusive or of specified bytes from the unencrypted first 128 bytes of the 2048 bytes sector. The decryption is done with the CSS stream cipher primitive described in section II. 2 CSS streamcipher primitive: The CSS streamcipher is a very simplistic one, based on 2 LFSRs being added together to produce output bytes. There is no truncation, both LFSR are clocked 8 times for every byte output, and there are 4 ways of combining the output of the LFSRs to an output byte. These four modes are just settings on 2 inverter switches, and the modes operation are used for the following purposes. 1.Authentication to DVD drive ( not discussed ) 2.Decryption of Disk key (DA) 3.Decryption of Title key (DB) 4.Decryption of data blocks. LFSR1: 17 bits ? taps, and is initialized by the 2 first bytes of key, and setting the most significant bit to 1 to prevent null cycling. LFSR2: 25 bits 4 taps, is initialized with byte 3,4,5 of the key shifting all but the 3 least significant bits up 1 position, and setting bit 4 to prevent null cycling. As new bits are clocked into the LFSRs, the same bits are clocked in with reversed order to the two LFSRs output bytes. ( With optional inversion of bits. ) The output of LFSR1 is O1(1), O1(2), O1(3)... Likewise LFSR2 produces O2(1), O2(2), O2(3)... These two streams are combined through 8 bits addition with carry carried over to the next output. The carry bit is zero at start of stream. (4) O(i) = O1(i) + O2(i) + c where c is carry bit from O(i-1) This streamcipher is very weak, a trivial 216 attack is possible with output bytes known for i = {1,2,3,4,5,6}. Guess the initial state of LFSR1, and clock out 4 bytes. O2(1), O2(2), O2(3), O2(4) can then be uniquely determined, and from them the state at i=4 is fully known. The guess on LFSR1 can then be verified by clocking out 2 or more bytes of the cipher and comparing the result. Another important attack is the case when only O(i) for i = {1,2,3,4,5} is known. Guess the initial state of LFSR1, and clock out 3 bytes. Now O2(1), O2(2) and O2(3) can be found as in the above attack. This will reveal all but the most significant bit of LFSR2s state at i=3. If both possible settings for MSB is tried, and LFSR2 is clocked backwards 24 steps, a state where bit 4 is set at i=1 can always be found. ( This is stated without proof ). Select the setting of the most significant bit for LFSR2 such that LFSR2 is in a legal state at i=1, and clock out two more bytes to verify the guess of LFSR1. For some values of O( i = {1,2,3,4,5} ) multiple start states can be found, and for others none. Selecting the correct start state is not a problem, as this attack is used in situations where only the first five output bytes are of significance ( encryption of keys ). 3 CSS mangling step: When the CSS streamcipher is used to encrypt keys such as in DA(data,key) and DB(data,key), an additional mangling step is performed on the data. This cipher is best illustrated with the following block diagram: A(1,2,3,4,5) are the input bytes (data) C(1,2,3,4,5) are the output bytes (data) ki = O(i) where O(i={1,2,3,4,5}) is streamcipher output from key B(1,2,3,4,5) are temporary stages The cipher is evaluated top down, with exceptions indicated by an arrow.
i can see what you mean and get your point, but would you slow down and actually READ what you are posting? you have a good point, but that doesnt give you a reason to spout incindiary material like this.
also, just because a case was won doesnt have to mean it was a good case. this example you are showing may fit the bill, but it doesnt always turn out. if the dvd cca won against decss, would their case have been good?
my @home connection was a choice between it and a crappy/expensive/slow adsl service run out of california (this is ky here!) by the local telco. so far the service is somewhat nice, but on occasion the network becomes "unusable" (there are 5 lights on the modem: power, lan connect, cable connect, activity and email(specifically specified as unused). the power and cable lights switch off and the email light comes on....?) during this time all activity stops and we get screwed over. there hasnt been too many of these incidents, and so far, service has not been too bad. we would have a much better option of sdsl, but remember the above stated adsl service? the local telco doesn't want competion, so a local isp can't get to the lines. and to think we could have 1.5mbit BOTH ways and NO restictions on what we use it for if it wasnt for the local monopoly. why are they allowed to continue? why can't there be competition over telphone service?
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Good harddisk for silent systems, if you don't need disk space and only moderate performance:
IBM DCHS-04. 4 gig scsi ultra-wide disk. Cheap, about $30 if you look (try froogle). You can hear it spin up (that's quite loud), you can hear it seek, but idling it really is silent.
It's also built to survive a thermonuclear apocalypse.
ill agree with you on that... when i finished the game the first time, i had around 1,000 kills.
a simpler idea: kill the fan, open your box. only 1 of my machines actually have a fully closed case at any given moment, thats because its on the floor.
from my expirence, the case only traps dust inside. and if you mess with your hardware as often as i do, its best to leave it open anyway.
another thought: why do people care about a small amount of noise? i actually like the noise it puts out. last time i turned my machine off, i had to turn the radio on to add a little ambience.
2 points:
1:ever heard of the word "wireless" before? as soon as we can...
2:a much more likely reaction would be a reset of the infrastructure, with a black-hole list of nodes which are no longer trusted. remeber the hacker's manefesto? You can stop one (whether a node or a whole net), but not all.
freedom of religion. one reason this country was even created in the first place was so people could stop being annoyed over religious beliefs, and instead just believe whatever they want. and if someone wants to not believe at all, would that make any difference? i really don't think so (belief == NULL is just as valid as belief == blah, in my way of thought), but if you want to believe differently, go right ahead. im not going to force you one way or another, unlike what you are suggesting...
if that isn't enough, does "seperation of church and state" help any?
ok, i downloaded it, and have to say that it must be the worst .pdf file ive seen to date. first. its huge. and little content... ive seen people pack 100+ pages of detailed drawings of electrical components into a file of comparable size, this has only 36. took about 6 minutes (yes, i timed it) to load the first page. page 4-5 was almost identical to page 1, just differnet format... and for the most part it gets -42, propaganda on the moderator list. this one most definatly gets the /dev/null treatment.
my way of playing hardball: drop the fscking server into the ipchains.deny. of course, some browsers don't quite like this, so a better workaround is used: instead of having the firewall route traffic from the internal lan to the offending banner server, send it to another server that simply sends a blank .png no matter what you ask of it. something like that. hmm.... another thing for the to-do list.
Make it a million-node Beowulf cluster!
Not a bad idea. pick up a distributed.net client and crack the current project in under an hour right in front of their noses, yes, something like THAT would really get them stirred up.
easy. things will balance themselves. when the recording industry finially gets the idea that spreading music for free isn't going to stop, well, they are going to have to think of a way to still get paid while letting the music spread this way. actually, i wouldn't be surprised that artists begin making money from the live shows while giving the albums away. hey, it could happen. while your at it, look at this. maybe youll get the idea, artists usually make more money from the tours already because of the way that labels rip them off.
but please don't think that i support not paying the musician. mp3's make a great try-before-you-buy thing like shareware... thats how mp3.com works.
maybe setting up a few encrypted/compressed tunnels to outside the country might help to get around it. only thing im worried about is if germany does it, things are bad, and then the chance for other countries to try it will increase, making things REALLY bad.
or maybe we could just say "screw it all" and start massive ham-radio network that all for-profit organizations/individuals, organizations/individuals that represent for-profit groups, and governments are blocked from. give them some of their own ideas. hey... maybe ipv6 could actually get USED for once!
strange, i think it is. can't get to it from here...
Already done.
ok, by throwing around the weight of my almight cable modem (no offense, dialup users), i was able to get the entire hitler, cattle mutilation, and tesla reports and most of the einstien one is in progress. if anyone's desprate for them email me.
this isn't entirely on topic, but i decided i might as well spread a little more about edison, and a bit on the history of fud. take the electric chair: once a rather common form of execution, now dying off because the death is sometimes a little more gruesome then intended. now edison invinted the electric chair... but not at first. the government, looking at new forms of execution, asked edison to build a form of capital punishment based on electricity. he refused without any thought, horrified at the idea. but around the same time he had fud campains against westinghouse, which sold the ac based power systems used widely today. edison sold a similar system based on dc, which was vastly inferior. it required huge wires, needed a sub station every 100 or so yards, and was quite bulky and even kinda dangerous. his fud campain was simple: he electrocuted things like dogs and such in front of the public with westinghouse current. so, some time after the government gave him the request, he remembered the fud and decided to expand it a little to include humans.... and he made sure "old sparky" was built with only westinghouse equipment. now what do you think of the inventor?
i tried that myself, but the binary segfaulted and the source didn't compile on my suse 6.2 box, so dumped the tarballs onto the ftp to let them rot (like everything else i download.) would you think it worth the effort to get it to run?
strange. look what whois turned up:
Registrant:
Open SSH Project (OPENSSH2-DOM)
Zaanstraat 250
AMSTERDAM, NL-1013 RZ
NL
Domain Name: OPENSSH.ORG
Odd.and the page is simply a link. Looks like this guy registered the domain name for the project. We need some more information on what this guy is doing before an honest opinion could be made.
a lot of his proposals may make it into some laws
Now this doesn't sound too bad, but when added with a snip from the report...
and (3) the potential for using education and empowerment tools to minimize the risks from such conduct.
So, in other words, are they going to brainwash everyone now? i haven't read the whole report yet, but this is enough.
preventing the government from making up fictional victims is more important than protecting the real victims who are sacrificed or muted.
Maybe this is true, but it may be possible to still stop many of the "sacrifices" you refer to. How do you get around this? Choose the right tool for the job. Look at the above comment. If you have major smoking-gun evidence, what need do you have for the name of the person who pointed it out? On the other hand, if a witness is all you have, then the name should be required...
We wil run a campaign to get people to modify their pages to detect when a browser is useing censorware and add pronography to the page!
i once saw a site, liquid.lithium.com, or maybe lithium.liquid.com (something like that!). it was just a litestep themes site and has sence been rendered 404 compliant. anyway, it had every word you would expect to find in a porn site on the meta tags. maybe that would be all you need to cause censorware to block the site, rather then actually detecting censorware softs. how would you go about checking for the program in html/java/activex, anyway?
Well, even if the members won't have much power, think about it. icann gave in. they let us get a little farther, but not what we want. If something is pushed into giving you a little of what you want, but not all, what do you do? Just sit there and do nothing? No, you keep pushing, that's what. So we join the membership and make a fuss until they actually give us some say.
On a side note, yes, post it up on icannt. people need to know this stuff.
Can we now Patent hyperlinks?!
Well, well, well.... look at this, from the article. Maybe it wouldn't be to hard:
Linder said the patent could even be broad enough to cover single links that would simply go from an affiliate to Amazon's home page, instead of to specific items.
If one type of link, why not another?
You want an English version? Here you go, provided by an anonymous coward a while back, not sure what artical. I just happened to save it.q .nu/ Even if the *can* get all the copies of the sourcecode (not bloody likely) off the net... below is the general crypto system used... Vengence. 0 General disclaimer. This information is provided as is, with no warranties on its accuracy or usability. It is based on a piece of source code claiming to be the css algorithms, and which have since been confirmed to interoperate with the CSS system. The author has not read any official CSS documentation, and any errors in the terminology is a result of this. This information has not to the knowledge of the author been made available through breaches of the DVD consortium Non Disclosure Agreement. 1 System overview. Every DVD player is equipped with a small set of player keys. When presented with a new disc, the player will attempt to decrypt the contents with the set of keys it possesses. Every disk has a disk key data block that is organized as follows: 5 bytes hash of decrypted disk key ( hash ) disk key encrypted with player key 1 (dk1 ) disk key encrypted with player key 2 (dk2 ) ... disk key encrypted with player key 409 (dk409) Suppose the player has a valid key for slot 213, it will calculate (1) Kd = DA( dk213 , Kp213 ) To verify that Kd is correct, the following check is done, if the check fails, it will try the next player key. (2) Kd = DA( hash , Kd ) An obvious weakness stems from this check, by trying all 240 possible Kd, disk key can be deduced without knowing any valid player key. As will be shown later, this attack can be carried out with a complexity of 225, making such an attack feasible in runtime applications. Another obvious attack is that by having 1 working player key, other player keys can be derived through a similar search. This can be done offline, also keys obtained from the former attack can be used as a starting point. To decrypt the contents an additional key tk - the title key is decrypted with the now decrypted and verified disk key. (3) Kt = DB( tk, Kd) Each sector of the data files is the optionally encrypted by a key that is derived from Kt by exclusive or of specified bytes from the unencrypted first 128 bytes of the 2048 bytes sector. The decryption is done with the CSS stream cipher primitive described in section II. 2 CSS streamcipher primitive: The CSS streamcipher is a very simplistic one, based on 2 LFSRs being added together to produce output bytes. There is no truncation, both LFSR are clocked 8 times for every byte output, and there are 4 ways of combining the output of the LFSRs to an output byte. These four modes are just settings on 2 inverter switches, and the modes operation are used for the following purposes. 1.Authentication to DVD drive ( not discussed ) 2.Decryption of Disk key (DA) 3.Decryption of Title key (DB) 4.Decryption of data blocks. LFSR1: 17 bits ? taps, and is initialized by the 2 first bytes of key, and setting the most significant bit to 1 to prevent null cycling. LFSR2: 25 bits 4 taps, is initialized with byte 3,4,5 of the key shifting all but the 3 least significant bits up 1 position, and setting bit 4 to prevent null cycling. As new bits are clocked into the LFSRs, the same bits are clocked in with reversed order to the two LFSRs output bytes. ( With optional inversion of bits. ) The output of LFSR1 is O1(1), O1(2), O1(3) ... Likewise LFSR2 produces O2(1), O2(2), O2(3) ... These two streams are combined through 8 bits addition with carry carried over to the next output. The carry bit is zero at start of stream. (4) O(i) = O1(i) + O2(i) + c where c is carry bit from O(i-1) This streamcipher is very weak, a trivial 216 attack is possible with output bytes known for i = {1,2,3,4,5,6}. Guess the initial state of LFSR1, and clock out 4 bytes. O2(1), O2(2), O2(3), O2(4) can then be uniquely determined, and from them the state at i=4 is fully known. The guess on LFSR1 can then be verified by clocking out 2 or more bytes of the cipher and comparing the result. Another important attack is the case when only O(i) for i = {1,2,3,4,5} is known. Guess the initial state of LFSR1, and clock out 3 bytes. Now O2(1), O2(2) and O2(3) can be found as in the above attack. This will reveal all but the most significant bit of LFSR2s state at i=3. If both possible settings for MSB is tried, and LFSR2 is clocked backwards 24 steps, a state where bit 4 is set at i=1 can always be found. ( This is stated without proof ). Select the setting of the most significant bit for LFSR2 such that LFSR2 is in a legal state at i=1, and clock out two more bytes to verify the guess of LFSR1. For some values of O( i = {1,2,3,4,5} ) multiple start states can be found, and for others none. Selecting the correct start state is not a problem, as this attack is used in situations where only the first five output bytes are of significance ( encryption of keys ). 3 CSS mangling step: When the CSS streamcipher is used to encrypt keys such as in DA(data,key) and DB(data,key), an additional mangling step is performed on the data. This cipher is best illustrated with the following block diagram: A(1,2,3,4,5) are the input bytes (data) C(1,2,3,4,5) are the output bytes (data) ki = O(i) where O(i={1,2,3,4,5}) is streamcipher output from key B(1,2,3,4,5) are temporary stages The cipher is evaluated top down, with exceptions indicated by an arrow.
Re:So where can we get the code *tonight* ? (Score:5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Mon Dec 27, '99 09:22 PM EDT (#258) This is from: http://www.2600.com/news/1999/1112-files/crypto.g
how does a minature, encryted-tunneling, parallel usenet sound? wouldn't take much to implement blowfish or something on an nntp server or two.
i can see what you mean and get your point, but would you slow down and actually READ what you are posting? you have a good point, but that doesnt give you a reason to spout incindiary material like this.
also, just because a case was won doesnt have to mean it was a good case. this example you are showing may fit the bill, but it doesnt always turn out. if the dvd cca won against decss, would their case have been good?
by the way, ever heard of the term "zealot"?
my @home connection was a choice between it and a crappy/expensive/slow adsl service run out of california (this is ky here!) by the local telco. so far the service is somewhat nice, but on occasion the network becomes "unusable" (there are 5 lights on the modem: power, lan connect, cable connect, activity and email(specifically specified as unused). the power and cable lights switch off and the email light comes on....?) during this time all activity stops and we get screwed over. there hasnt been too many of these incidents, and so far, service has not been too bad. we would have a much better option of sdsl, but remember the above stated adsl service? the local telco doesn't want competion, so a local isp can't get to the lines. and to think we could have 1.5mbit BOTH ways and NO restictions on what we use it for if it wasnt for the local monopoly. why are they allowed to continue? why can't there be competition over telphone service?