Wow. I don't even feel like I have to reply to this.
Again, there is no scheme presented in which Circuit City's rights and my consumer rights (the ones acting in good faith) have their rights protected -- just facetious, inactionable notions like sealing everything up.
Plus these sweeping, off-subject attacks on capitalism and creationism (which this winner can't even spell).
Obviously, you and Michael have never run anything complex. If you had, you'd respect people's good-faith efforts more, rather than trying to force them into an impossible position.
As a citizen, consumer, tax payer, and business owner I'd like to ask you to drop this complaint and stop consuming public resources with this exercise.
Circuit City has every reasonable right to ask for your receipt and to inspect your purchases as you exit the store. In fact, they don't have a choice because they'd go out of business if they didn't do this. I like shopping at Circuit City and I like their low prices; so please don't cause them to go out of business (or raise their prices) by forcing them to accept more shoplifting.
And please don't quote me the law on privacy. The employee checking your receipt and shopping bag at the door is not invading your personal space -- if you want, think of the property as becoming yours when you leave their property (it might even make sense to make this part of the sales 'contract').
You are performing a left-brained and purist exercise in interpretation, not contributing to my civil rights.
Your position, like most liberal canards, denies the messy reality that we inhabit. In that real, unpredictable world, we need to follow our civic and legal principles in good faith, not mindlessly apply them to make pointless political statements.
The officer also has every reasonable right to see id once you are involved in an incident. Here again, please don't quote me the letter of the law. There was a conflicting situation which the officer did not entirely witness; had their been a follow-up complaint of false imprisonment or what not, it is important for the officer's report to name everyone accurately.
Hopefully the judge will see that.
I support the officer's action in dragging you downtown (though possibly not booking you), so as to make the experience sufficiently inconvenient that you hopefully don't do this again. I want the police to spend their time protecting me from bad guys, not driving to Circuit City to play games with you.
In your scheme, Circuit City's rights and my consumer rights are violated. You provide no scheme in which our rights are not violated (given the reality of shoplifters, whom you are empowering). Should you prevail, our rights will be more violated. Now, if everyone else was like you -- tying up public resources with disingenuous civil rights complaints -- then we'd really be in trouble.
Hope you read this far. Please enjoy your 15 min of fame and then drop your complaints.
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Wow. I don't even feel like I have to reply to this.
Again, there is no scheme presented in which Circuit City's rights and my consumer rights (the ones acting in good faith) have their rights protected -- just facetious, inactionable notions like sealing everything up.
Plus these sweeping, off-subject attacks on capitalism and creationism (which this winner can't even spell).
Obviously, you and Michael have never run anything complex. If you had, you'd respect people's good-faith efforts more, rather than trying to force them into an impossible position.
Michael:
As a citizen, consumer, tax payer, and business owner I'd like to ask you to drop this complaint and stop consuming public resources with this exercise.
Circuit City has every reasonable right to ask for your receipt and to inspect your purchases as you exit the store. In fact, they don't have a choice because they'd go out of business if they didn't do this. I like shopping at Circuit City and I like their low prices; so please don't cause them to go out of business (or raise their prices) by forcing them to accept more shoplifting.
And please don't quote me the law on privacy. The employee checking your receipt and shopping bag at the door is not invading your personal space -- if you want, think of the property as becoming yours when you leave their property (it might even make sense to make this part of the sales 'contract').
You are performing a left-brained and purist exercise in interpretation, not contributing to my civil rights.
Your position, like most liberal canards, denies the messy reality that we inhabit. In that real, unpredictable world, we need to follow our civic and legal principles in good faith, not mindlessly apply them to make pointless political statements.
The officer also has every reasonable right to see id once you are involved in an incident. Here again, please don't quote me the letter of the law. There was a conflicting situation which the officer did not entirely witness; had their been a follow-up complaint of false imprisonment or what not, it is important for the officer's report to name everyone accurately.
Hopefully the judge will see that.
I support the officer's action in dragging you downtown (though possibly not booking you), so as to make the experience sufficiently inconvenient that you hopefully don't do this again. I want the police to spend their time protecting me from bad guys, not driving to Circuit City to play games with you.
In your scheme, Circuit City's rights and my consumer rights are violated. You provide no scheme in which our rights are not violated (given the reality of shoplifters, whom you are empowering). Should you prevail, our rights will be more violated. Now, if everyone else was like you -- tying up public resources with disingenuous civil rights complaints -- then we'd really be in trouble.
Hope you read this far. Please enjoy your 15 min of fame and then drop your complaints.