I'm also waiting on 8.2. Strangely, I wanted to buy a 'club' membership as well as preorder 8.2, but they don't take pre-orders. And I'm not going to buy a fourth copy of 8.1 (one x86 for the office, one for me, and a ppc one for me too)
I emailed them about it, and it went down the bit bucket... So... I didn't order anything after all.
There is one MMORPG that has been going for years now, Mac only. The graphics are probably not as 'evolved' as Lineage, but at least you can go where you like, you not stuck on that gridlike floor!
Here here, I'm still using the gshhs 80Mb (~100m) data to plot stuff from my GPS. That gshhs dataset is pretty incredible, if you ever want to stress polygon clipping code, feel free to use it, europe, asia are ONE polygon, around 400.000 vertice:-)
Screenshot is here, but might have been misencoded by the apple thing, sorry: tool
I wish we had access to that kind of data, as well as elevation data for the whole planet.
Corelating both, we could have a planetwide flying simulator, or even submarine simulator.
Then add the higher resolution satellite pictures to enrich the places where you have them, and we'd soon have a hugely interesting data set!
I did a proto browser like that years ago, correlating the ghhs coastline data set and the etopo5 elevation map (at 1 degree resolution; nothing). And thats still the only vectorial data you can get covering the whole planet, for free.
it's OUR planet anyway, why can't they release the data? it's not like the resolution is enought to have any military value anyway!
They wont port it to intel, because they sell hardware, not software. They make software to sell hardware. thats the whole *goal* of the company.
If they'd port OSX to intel, they would literally make software to sell OTHERS hardware, and they wouldn't sell hardware anymore then because of the price gap. x86 hardware is too competitive, there are lots of box-makers who don't pay R&D to... make software!
Simple, isn't it?
So all the "columns" about that OSX-on-intel is just people wanting OSX, but not wanting to buy the hardware to run it.
no later than this afternoon, I was trying to email some guy at @blank.org, and my mail was bouncing because it was claimed my ISP was an open relay.
I checked it using an external box, and it wasn't.
I emailed the ISP and the destination domain (using another relay) and the ISP was ammadant they had never been open relay in the past, because that's the first thing they checked when installing their server. I know the techies there, they aren't bad, I trust them.
Of course, the blacklist site failed to reply to any email I send.
I don't see why they try to do that, openrelays are mostly home machines that will be shut down before there is a chance for the blacklist to work (and with DHCP...)
Maybe they should target and start blacklisting yahoo.com, home.com, hotmail.com, aol.com and the few other domain from where 90% of the spam I receive originate, instead.
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Thats silly; if apple was to do that -at the risk of killing their hardware sales- the developer community would have know about it.
There would at least have been some 'preparation work' in the documentations about endianess issues etc.
But theres nothing. Beside, most MacOSX applications are build using codewarrior... and codewarrior would need a LOT of work to make their x86 compiler eat OSX headers and stuff.
Apple is pushing all it can to get applications for OSX/PPC.. on x86 they'd go back 2 years, with... zero applications.
I have an OSX box and a Linux box. My iMac run OSX, my Tosh laptop runs Mandrake.
Comparing the two is silly. Their objectives aren't the same. Their 'customer' targets aren't.
1) The pseudo 'common' part is barely common at all, most of the BSD-ish tools on OSX are several years sometime behind what is available on linux.
For example, 'm4' is barely usable on OSX, it lacks all the FNU extensions that makes it usable nowadays.
Apple also has decided that the GPL was dangerous, and systematicaly removed everything that was GPLed. Bash went first in the DP series, while wget went rather recently out of OSX 10.0
2) On the other hand, OSX *does* have applications and development tools that are, as far as human interface is concerned, way ahead of what is available on linux.
The reason is simple: There are no Xlib vs GNOME vs KDE vs whatever dilution. Development is focused on one target, even is there are two way to reach the target (Carbon & Cocoa)
And, bless them, there are still people at apple who aren't geeks and try to focus on the end users, instead of on being 'customizable' or 'skinable'
That said, OSX sucks speedwise compared to a linux box. Just generally sucks I mean. Play an mp3 on iTunes, it eats *30%* of your CPU while on a slower laptop xmms will eat barely 1%. That might look like a cliche, but it's verifiable on many other 'serious' tasks. I have applications running on both.
So, well, 'desktop' is probably OSX major plus, and will stay that way. While 'OS/server' is probably where linux is better, and will stay better for a long time
Got my iPOD last week, I think I am objective in the choice I made.
I made the first ever mp3 player on mac (Vamp) a few years back just so I could make myself MiniDiscs with mp3s. I've been waiting for a device like the iPOD for a LONG time.
So the great points about the iPOD are known: 5Gb, large buffer, sync with iTune, super fast at copying etc.
The less known facts is that it works as a real hard drive, so if you want to copy *files* between work and home, you don't need to carry the laptop around. Heck, even.iso fits in easy and *fast*!
Now for the not-so-good sides:
1) There is a bug in the iPOD that makes it garble playback after some use. I've had that problem twice, it generates a nasty little noise in the right channel after some hours of use. To fix that, you need to restart the iPOD ('reset' but you keep all your data, 'reboot' is more appropriate) after that it's clean again.
2) If you want to listen to music with the iPOD while you recharge it with the firewire cable of your mac, you can't. It's hard drive OR mp3 player. It's too bad, since iTune eats CPU (like mad) while your iPOD sits there playing the unused hard-drive. I wish I could just tell the iPOD "Play dump, just sucks the voltage".
3) Lack of remote control is hard to bear; I had that Sony MiniDisc player for years, and you can find it hard to have to dig the iPOD from whatever place it is to change something. Thats even more annoying because the thing is *slick*; chromed metal slips!
4) No crossfade, No continuous play. There is no way to stick 2 files so they play as one, or to crossfade them. If you have live albums, it can be problematic.
5) With that size you need STATS. I want to know which files I *never* listened to, which ones I listen in wich order, and all that kind of crap. it's 1000 songs (or so) it takes DAYS to sort playlists!
6) 5GB is.... too small! I think 10Gb would fit my CD collection, with 5Gb I need to be selective.
Overall, I'm very happy with the thing still, it's definitly an incredible device.
I thought the official party line was that CLIs were "evil", like two-button mice...
I've been working all those years on both UNIXes and assimilates (Pr1mos!) and on Macs.
I've now reconciled both the threads by releasing the geekiest terminal emmulator for OSX : one that uses OpenGL to render text! [shameless plug Homepage]
As for the iPOD, the folder that contains the music is indeed invisible... to the Finder but NOT to a terminal... So I'm not sure that it can count as a 'piracy protection' device at all.
In any case, you could always copy the files "by mistake" by typing
cp -r/Volumes/
Does that make zsh -or my tab key- a terrorist helper device ?
Please?
MIDI data in, sound out. USB so no extra interface, and since it' s bus powered it doesn't need YASVCB (Yet Another Voltage Conversion Box)
Theres the iPOD too, but I'm not trusting my relatives with that, I'm getting mine (mwhahaha) in two days at Apple UK expo.
Oh, and a replacement for my iMac DV/400. A replacement that has no fan. I'm a musician, I hate fans. The cube was ALMOST the thing, but too expensive for the perfs.
I want that new iMac replacement thingy with a FTF screen please Steve.
I agree that the Moto doc is quite useful, having a reference on all the opcodes proves indispensable as soon as you need to *write* some code.
If you just want a few lines of assembly, write a small C function that does roughtly what you want, disassemble it and 'adopt' the generated assembly into your own piece.
One very useful notation in codewarrior is that you can specify the register to use for parameters, it helps a lot when doing those things:
long blah(long p1 : __r10, long p2 : __r11) : __r4 {..... }
For patching stuff, I've found that using CodeWarrior assembly functions is extremely useful too. As well as for getting the hex value for opcodes from the disassembled output, saves a trip to the reference book.
Since it acts as a firewire disk too, it must be sbp2. OSX has native support for those... and so has Linux...
The files are probably stored in exactly the same way iTunes stores it's 'library' (basicaly, a hierarchy of folders for artist/album/song, and an index file) so I'm sure it will be trivial to make xmms & crew support that.
I strongly suspect the formatting is HFS or HFS plus. Maybe that will generate a boost for HFS Plus support in linux, right now HFS is working quite well, but HFS plus is flaky.
.hqx are like.uue. One doesn't 'execute' them. They are text files that just decoded, result is put into a folder and nothing gets executed at all.
You can get a 'helper' to open the file to possibly decompress it etc, but thats optional.
And if you use the default helper (Stuffit expander), the decompressed files are put into the folder, and STILL nothing gets executed.
Heh, actualy, I always use the PPC bk tree, even for my x86 machines.
why? for one thing, it's in bk so there is revision control, I can know what has changed at a glance. Linus has just started to make release notes, under pressure.
and it works on my iMac DV too.
and it also work on my Tosh.
and it's updated dayly with either Linus OR Alan patch sets (if we get dry on patches from Linus).
Huh, actualy, Ben is one of the main contributor to the PPC tree, he usualy is the first to get anything running on any new box that comes out.
Heck, that #&#&$ always gets the brand new toys before any of us does!:-)
Check the Credits file, and if you are in there, you might start having a discussion about Ben's right to comment on the patches he contributes to.
Because, he *knows* what is in them. You don't.
MacOS X uses a mach kernel that was first ported to the PPC for.... mkLinux! I know that for certain, because some of the boot message I added a few years ago still appears when I boot MacOS X in verbose mode. It has evolved a lot, true, but it's still a mach microkernel.
So, there is no technical reason one can't run MacOS X and linux (in it's mk form) at the same time, like I could run two instance of mklinux on the same microkernel all those years ago.
Let's use that mKernel for something useful!
I have several linux boxes, one of them is my home iMac DV 400. networked with my PIII600 laptop. the laptop reports more Bogos, but the imac does many things faster; it has a 66 disk for one thing, and the video is faster too.
They both run 2.4.0test11 without problem, using the same source tree.
Overrall, I'd say they compare quite well; hard to notice any difference when working.
Yeah, buy yourself a 3 button mouse
G4s have an extra boot, using the Altivec instructions to do cache prefetch and other strategic places like memory copies gives a tremendous speedup.
Seems strange to me to read Handy discussing interface problems these days. When I was a very very young hacker back in... -err.. time frame was early mac plus maybe (funny how our time frames are more related to our machine's resources at certain time than to the common y2k-n notation:-)) - I saw Handy's aborted project "Servant 0.95" wich provided a bunch of very cool new features, like multitasking, "transparent" icons, aliases and a lot more. years later "System 6.0" appeared, and it was Servant, without the cool features. Today MacOS still carries bits of Servant behaviour in the form of it's cooperative multitasking. I also tried myself all the packages discussed (ie gnome/kde) and even if this needs to start a war, I must give my opinion on this. Most of what I've seen on gnome/kde and the myriad of window managers around are based on the fact that they are "customisable". Face it, it's bullshit. It works for the geek. It's totaly incompatible with the end user. Handy half says it, and doesn't, because I suspect it is the buisiness model he speaks about but doesn't describe that much... The end user wants consistency, and his boss wants it too, it cuts on courses budget. Having a spreadsheet and a word processor will not change this.
Slashdot Mirror
I'm also waiting on 8.2. Strangely, I wanted to buy a 'club' membership as well as preorder 8.2, but they don't take pre-orders.
And I'm not going to buy a fourth copy of 8.1 (one x86 for the office, one for me, and a ppc one for me too)
I emailed them about it, and it went down the bit bucket... So... I didn't order anything after all.
You idiot, if it's not ready, why announce it?
I go have a look at the changelog, then I'll download it "because I'm here and it's there".
You can save your shift key syndrom for "why is the news posted when the host is not ready" and blame someone else.
The responsability of slashdoting kernel.org is not mine, it's.... slashdot's
At this time, the 2.4.18 is neither on UK nor FRA mirrors. And the german one doesn't have the .bz2
.bz2 from... kernel.org direct.
So why announce it and whinne about the mirrors when they aren't available?
Result is, I'm downloading the
Not for lack of trying...
There is one MMORPG that has been going for years now, Mac only. The graphics are probably not as 'evolved' as Lineage, but at least you can go where you like, you not stuck on that gridlike floor!
ClanLord homepage
Here here, I'm still using the gshhs 80Mb (~100m) data to plot stuff from my GPS. :-)
That gshhs dataset is pretty incredible, if you ever want to stress polygon clipping code, feel free to use it, europe, asia are ONE polygon, around 400.000 vertice
Screenshot is here, but might have been misencoded by the apple thing, sorry:
tool
You meant terra!share then ? :->
I wish we had access to that kind of data, as well as elevation data for the whole planet.
Corelating both, we could have a planetwide flying simulator, or even submarine simulator.
Then add the higher resolution satellite pictures to enrich the places where you have them, and we'd soon have a hugely interesting data set!
I did a proto browser like that years ago, correlating the ghhs coastline data set and the etopo5 elevation map (at 1 degree resolution; nothing). And thats still the only vectorial data you can get covering the whole planet, for free.
it's OUR planet anyway, why can't they release the data? it's not like the resolution is enought to have any military value anyway!
Err, you haven't used MOL have you?
There is no video acceleration. None, nada, nothing.
Try running quake3, lol
As for the others apps, yes, it runs nicely, no it is not 100% speed.
I have used a mac for over a year in linux, with MOL to do mac stuff, it works, it's cool, but when you reboot in OS9 native, you breathe much better.
They wont port it to intel, because they sell hardware, not software. They make software to sell hardware. thats the whole *goal* of the company.
If they'd port OSX to intel, they would literally make software to sell OTHERS hardware, and they wouldn't sell hardware anymore then because of the price gap. x86 hardware is too competitive, there are lots of box-makers who don't pay R&D to... make software!
Simple, isn't it?
So all the "columns" about that OSX-on-intel is just people wanting OSX, but not wanting to buy the hardware to run it.
no later than this afternoon, I was trying to email some guy at @blank.org, and my mail was bouncing because it was claimed my ISP was an open relay.
I checked it using an external box, and it wasn't.
I emailed the ISP and the destination domain (using another relay) and the ISP was ammadant they had never been open relay in the past, because that's the first thing they checked when installing their server. I know the techies there, they aren't bad, I trust them.
Of course, the blacklist site failed to reply to any email I send.
I don't see why they try to do that, openrelays are mostly home machines that will be shut down before there is a chance for the blacklist to work (and with DHCP...)
Maybe they should target and start blacklisting yahoo.com, home.com, hotmail.com, aol.com and the few other domain from where 90% of the spam I receive originate, instead.
Thats silly; if apple was to do that -at the risk of killing their hardware sales- the developer community would have know about it.
There would at least have been some 'preparation work' in the documentations about endianess issues etc.
But theres nothing. Beside, most MacOSX applications are build using codewarrior... and codewarrior would need a LOT of work to make their x86 compiler eat OSX headers and stuff.
Apple is pushing all it can to get applications for OSX/PPC.. on x86 they'd go back 2 years, with... zero applications.
I have an OSX box and a Linux box. My iMac run OSX, my Tosh laptop runs Mandrake.
Comparing the two is silly. Their objectives aren't the same. Their 'customer' targets aren't.
1) The pseudo 'common' part is barely common at all, most of the BSD-ish tools on OSX are several years sometime behind what is available on linux.
For example, 'm4' is barely usable on OSX, it lacks all the FNU extensions that makes it usable nowadays.
Apple also has decided that the GPL was dangerous, and systematicaly removed everything that was GPLed. Bash went first in the DP series, while wget went rather recently out of OSX 10.0
2) On the other hand, OSX *does* have applications and development tools that are, as far as human interface is concerned, way ahead of what is available on linux.
The reason is simple: There are no Xlib vs GNOME vs KDE vs whatever dilution. Development is focused on one target, even is there are two way to reach the target (Carbon & Cocoa)
And, bless them, there are still people at apple who aren't geeks and try to focus on the end users, instead of on being 'customizable' or 'skinable'
That said, OSX sucks speedwise compared to a linux box. Just generally sucks I mean. Play an mp3 on iTunes, it eats *30%* of your CPU while on a slower laptop xmms will eat barely 1%. That might look like a cliche, but it's verifiable on many other 'serious' tasks. I have applications running on both.
So, well, 'desktop' is probably OSX major plus, and will stay that way. While 'OS/server' is probably where linux is better, and will stay better for a long time
Got my iPOD last week, I think I am objective in the choice I made.
.iso fits in easy and *fast*!
I made the first ever mp3 player on mac (Vamp) a few years back just so I could make myself MiniDiscs with mp3s. I've been waiting for a device like the iPOD for a LONG time.
So the great points about the iPOD are known: 5Gb, large buffer, sync with iTune, super fast at copying etc.
The less known facts is that it works as a real hard drive, so if you want to copy *files* between work and home, you don't need to carry the laptop around. Heck, even
Now for the not-so-good sides:
1) There is a bug in the iPOD that makes it garble playback after some use. I've had that problem twice, it generates a nasty little noise in the right channel after some hours of use. To fix that, you need to restart the iPOD ('reset' but you keep all your data, 'reboot' is more appropriate) after that it's clean again.
2) If you want to listen to music with the iPOD while you recharge it with the firewire cable of your mac, you can't. It's hard drive OR mp3 player. It's too bad, since iTune eats CPU (like mad) while your iPOD sits there playing the unused hard-drive. I wish I could just tell the iPOD "Play dump, just sucks the voltage".
3) Lack of remote control is hard to bear; I had that Sony MiniDisc player for years, and you can find it hard to have to dig the iPOD from whatever place it is to change something. Thats even more annoying because the thing is *slick*; chromed metal slips!
4) No crossfade, No continuous play. There is no way to stick 2 files so they play as one, or to crossfade them. If you have live albums, it can be problematic.
5) With that size you need STATS. I want to know which files I *never* listened to, which ones I listen in wich order, and all that kind of crap. it's 1000 songs (or so) it takes DAYS to sort playlists!
6) 5GB is.... too small! I think 10Gb would fit my CD collection, with 5Gb I need to be selective.
Overall, I'm very happy with the thing still, it's definitly an incredible device.
I thought the official party line was that CLIs were "evil", like two-button mice...
/Volumes/
I've been working all those years on both UNIXes and assimilates (Pr1mos!) and on Macs.
I've now reconciled both the threads by releasing the geekiest terminal emmulator for OSX : one that uses OpenGL to render text! [shameless plug Homepage]
As for the iPOD, the folder that contains the music is indeed invisible... to the Finder but NOT to a terminal... So I'm not sure that it can count as a 'piracy protection' device at all.
In any case, you could always copy the files "by mistake" by typing
cp -r
Does that make zsh -or my tab key- a terrorist helper device ?
You can also read the patch, it's a oneliner after all.
$ vi fs/inode.c
:1047
delete the " && sb && sb->s_root" on that line
:wq!
$ make bzImage
For some reason I couldn't get the loopback block device module building in 2.4.14 on my laptop (depmod chocked on undefined symbols)
.29) 3.1.30 pcmcia-cs package there
works again in 2.4.15
There is also a new (at last! almost 4 months since
Please?
MIDI data in, sound out. USB so no extra interface, and since it' s bus powered it doesn't need YASVCB (Yet Another Voltage Conversion Box)
Theres the iPOD too, but I'm not trusting my relatives with that, I'm getting mine (mwhahaha) in two days at Apple UK expo.
Oh, and a replacement for my iMac DV/400. A replacement that has no fan. I'm a musician, I hate fans. The cube was ALMOST the thing, but too expensive for the perfs.
I want that new iMac replacement thingy with a FTF screen please Steve.
I agree that the Moto doc is quite useful, having a reference on all the opcodes proves indispensable as soon as you need to *write* some code.
If you just want a few lines of assembly, write a small C function that does roughtly what you want, disassemble it and 'adopt' the generated assembly into your own piece.
One very useful notation in codewarrior is that you can specify the register to use for parameters, it helps a lot when doing those things:
long blah(long p1 : __r10, long p2 : __r11) : __r4 {..... }
For patching stuff, I've found that using CodeWarrior assembly functions is extremely useful too. As well as for getting the hex value for opcodes from the disassembled output, saves a trip to the reference book.
Since it acts as a firewire disk too, it must be sbp2. OSX has native support for those... and so has Linux...
The files are probably stored in exactly the same way iTunes stores it's 'library' (basicaly, a hierarchy of folders for artist/album/song, and an index file) so I'm sure it will be trivial to make xmms & crew support that.
I strongly suspect the formatting is HFS or HFS plus. Maybe that will generate a boost for HFS Plus support in linux, right now HFS is working quite well, but HFS plus is flaky.
.hqx are like .uue. One doesn't 'execute' them. They are text files that just decoded, result is put into a folder and nothing gets executed at all.
.vbs files!
You can get a 'helper' to open the file to possibly decompress it etc, but thats optional.
And if you use the default helper (Stuffit expander), the decompressed files are put into the folder, and STILL nothing gets executed.
Go back to chasing
Heh, actualy, I always use the PPC bk tree, even for my x86 machines.
why? for one thing, it's in bk so there is revision control, I can know what has changed at a glance. Linus has just started to make release notes, under pressure.
and it works on my iMac DV too.
and it also work on my Tosh.
and it's updated dayly with either Linus OR Alan patch sets (if we get dry on patches from Linus).
So, I consider it a nice branch!
Huh, actualy, Ben is one of the main contributor to the PPC tree, he usualy is the first to get anything running on any new box that comes out. :-)
Heck, that #&#&$ always gets the brand new toys before any of us does!
Check the Credits file, and if you are in there, you might start having a discussion about Ben's right to comment on the patches he contributes to.
Because, he *knows* what is in them. You don't.
MacOS X uses a mach kernel that was first ported to the PPC for .... mkLinux! I know that for certain, because some of the boot message I added a few years ago still appears when I boot MacOS X in verbose mode. It has evolved a lot, true, but it's still a mach microkernel.
So, there is no technical reason one can't run MacOS X and linux (in it's mk form) at the same time, like I could run two instance of mklinux on the same microkernel all those years ago.
Let's use that mKernel for something useful!
I have several linux boxes, one of them is my home iMac DV 400. networked with my PIII600 laptop. the laptop reports more Bogos, but the imac does many things faster; it has a 66 disk for one thing, and the video is faster too.
They both run 2.4.0test11 without problem, using the same source tree.
Overrall, I'd say they compare quite well; hard to notice any difference when working. Yeah, buy yourself a 3 button mouse G4s have an extra boot, using the Altivec instructions to do cache prefetch and other strategic places like memory copies gives a tremendous speedup.
Seems strange to me to read Handy discussing interface problems these days. When I was a very very young hacker back in ... -err.. time frame was early mac plus maybe (funny how our time frames are more related to our machine's resources at certain time than to the common y2k-n notation :-)) - I saw Handy's aborted project "Servant 0.95" wich provided a bunch of very cool new features, like multitasking, "transparent" icons, aliases and a lot more. years later "System 6.0" appeared, and it was Servant, without the cool features.
:)
Today MacOS still carries bits of Servant behaviour in the form of it's cooperative multitasking.
I also tried myself all the packages discussed (ie gnome/kde) and even if this needs to start a war, I must give my opinion on this.
Most of what I've seen on gnome/kde and the myriad of window managers around are based on the fact that they are "customisable".
Face it, it's bullshit. It works for the geek. It's totaly incompatible with the end user.
Handy half says it, and doesn't, because I suspect it is the buisiness model he speaks about but doesn't describe that much...
The end user wants consistency, and his boss wants it too, it cuts on courses budget.
Having a spreadsheet and a word processor will not change this.
Oh, flame away, this is my first post