He never said nor suggested that Microsoft as a whole is your ally.
At the end of the day, we both want to see free software succeed. But Richard, instead of opening new fronts to promote his causes, attacks his own allies for not being replicas of himself."
[Miguel] suggested that either himself, or Microsoft, or both, [were] [RMS's] "ally."
I have to agree with eldavojohn here, Concern. I believe you were mis-reading Miguel's statement and perhaps got co-references mixed up . I believe his own allies above is co-referent with neither Miguel, nor Microsoft. I believe Miguel was refering to the readers of RMS's article when he said "his own allies."
I am no fan of MS, but it saddens me when open source fanbois distort facts to make it look like they've won, even when the real story offers an opportunity to beat their "enemies" in a more conclusive way.
Mono's great, though, Bruce. And there are standards (ISO and ECMA) that describe the process of building a CLR implementation. Perhaps nobody should touch *any* of the alternate implementations of the CLR, yes? Or maybe we should stop worrying and create some code.
Do you remember when people tried to get PGP users to stop using the software? They whined about it quite a bit, remember? But there's still a Free implementation, yes?
Thank you for everything you did for the community in general and for me specifically. I wouldn't be involved in F/OSS the way I am were it not for your help early in my career. I'm certain the same could be said for many folks. You had a vast and overwhelmingly positive effect on the community.
I'd like to know more about Google's library project. Does it infringe on any rights? They're only publishing documents that have outlived their copyright, aren't they?
Mr. Wall was until recently employed by O'Reilly and Associates. I believe that the perl community (C/O YAS) was looking to sponsor those who didn't have a job where they could spend great ammounts of time working on Perl. When Larry fell into this category, they jumped at the opportunity to add him to the roster. or at least that's how I see it. I'm glad they've given us the opportunity to support Larry and the whole of the Perl community. I hope we can compensate him as well as ORA did.
This whole thread reminds me that programming efficiency is getting less and less important as computers get faster. We're at the point that big name companies are releasing slower and slower software and charging more and more money for it. Is there anything being done to keep the efficiency of software moving along just as fast as the hardware? You'd think that 300 MHz should really mean something. I remember having a 25MHz machine and thinking that there'd NEVER be a 200MHz computer made for years, but when it was, it'd be amazing. I was sorely disapointed, not because it didn't show up, but when it did, it the software for that day and age didn't run any better than the software for my old 386. Maybe this is standard evolution, but I've always hoped for more...
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He never said nor suggested that Microsoft as a whole is your ally.
At the end of the day, we both want to see free software succeed. But Richard, instead of opening new fronts to promote his causes, attacks his own allies for not being replicas of himself."
[Miguel] suggested that either himself, or Microsoft, or both, [were] [RMS's] "ally."
I have to agree with eldavojohn here, Concern. I believe you were mis-reading Miguel's statement and perhaps got co-references mixed up . I believe his own allies above is co-referent with neither Miguel, nor Microsoft. I believe Miguel was refering to the readers of RMS's article when he said "his own allies."
I am no fan of MS, but it saddens me when open source fanbois distort facts to make it look like they've won, even when the real story offers an opportunity to beat their "enemies" in a more conclusive way.
Well put, sir.
I bet they will use Mono to ease the transition. If they've already got a huge codebase written for .NET, wouldn't it be insane to throw it away?
Heh. Did you notice that you're quoting boycottnovell.com above? You know they're a bunch of loons, right? :)
http://wp.colliertech.org/cj/?p=237
You forgot me. Please amend the above to include C.J. Adams-Collier (cjac). I am not yet a DD, but I'll be there soon.
http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-cli-libs/packages/dlr-languages.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=4f658c05018d4b4c4bc39d445d9a22adec3d43f9;hb=46fa20431a01c864e53c65bb12c5a4702ad07e8d
Kisses,
C.J.
maybe it was intended to be ironical
That sure is purdy brown chrome. Reminiscint of a certain release of Ubuntu, IIRC.
Thank you teh feds for taking care of this problem. spam is not so good.
*sigh*
Mono's great, though, Bruce. And there are standards (ISO and ECMA) that describe the process of building a CLR implementation. Perhaps nobody should touch *any* of the alternate implementations of the CLR, yes? Or maybe we should stop worrying and create some code.
Do you remember when people tried to get PGP users to stop using the software? They whined about it quite a bit, remember? But there's still a Free implementation, yes?
Thank you for everything you did for the community in general and for me specifically. I wouldn't be involved in F/OSS the way I am were it not for your help early in my career. I'm certain the same could be said for many folks. You had a vast and overwhelmingly positive effect on the community.
I'd like to know more about Google's library project. Does it infringe on any rights? They're only publishing documents that have outlived their copyright, aren't they?
Mr. Wall was until recently employed by O'Reilly and Associates. I believe that the perl community (C/O YAS) was looking to sponsor those who didn't have a job where they could spend great ammounts of time working on Perl. When Larry fell into this category, they jumped at the opportunity to add him to the roster. or at least that's how I see it. I'm glad they've given us the opportunity to support Larry and the whole of the Perl community. I hope we can compensate him as well as ORA did.
and modest too, I see..
you're a sick, twisted individual. void main() indeed.
This whole thread reminds me that programming efficiency is getting less and less important as computers get faster. We're at the point that big name companies are releasing slower and slower software and charging more and more money for it. Is there anything being done to keep the efficiency of software moving along just as fast as the hardware? You'd think that 300 MHz should really mean something. I remember having a 25MHz machine and thinking that there'd NEVER be a 200MHz computer made for years, but when it was, it'd be amazing. I was sorely disapointed, not because it didn't show up, but when it did, it the software for that day and age didn't run any better than the software for my old 386. Maybe this is standard evolution, but I've always hoped for more...