I'm not the one freaking out about guns, you apparently are.
Look at the text of the Amendment. The operative part is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
If you are saying I'm not allowed to buy a gun unless you know about that, you are infringing on my right to keep it and bear it. Therefore your law does not follow the Constitution. If you can't accept that, get a new Amendment passed that invalidates the Second Amendment. Then you have the authority to whatever the hell you want.
So you support the Tea Party and Libertarian wings of the Republican party, right?
Yeah, I didn't think so. You guys are so predictable. You keep saying you want 'principled Republicans' and 'loyal opposition', but you can't stand anyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint. You only want Republicans who are yes-men to your wildest ramblings. And you think others don't notice it.
We just usually ignore your idiocy, because it's not worth the hassle of pointing out the hypocrisy and deceit.
You seriously think his company has no competitors? And no competitors that are young and have shit for brains like yourself? There's probably been dozens that have used your business method and failed because they couldn't handle the upgrade cycle of MS Office, let alone the operating system.
The hardware may be free, as in already there, but my time isn't. If they don't want to pay me, or can't pay me until the economy actually recovers, then the system stays as it is now. I mentioned above, but the Win98 system died last fall, just as that customer started a big job for a customer. He called me in a panic, I grabbed a Win98 system I had in my room, brought it to his shop, loaded the software, and he was back up that afternoon. A week later, I bought another Win98 system that someone was looking to sell, so I have one on hand if needed.
Would a newer system work in its place? Probably. But he isn't interested in paying me to find out. And the software is very specialized to run one piece of machinery, so I can't exactly test it at home. After reading some of the responses above, I may give some effort to trying Linux with a VM, but I haven't used either too much and have no idea what I would be able to make work for this case. It is worth a look-see though.:^)
As for the WinNT server with the database, this is a new client (not same one as the Win98), so I don't know the whole details. But he explained that the database is some custom software that he's used forever, and he has looked into porting it to something newer. But the task would have to be done manually by a database expert, and it isn't worth the attempt. The box is actually a newer HP server, not something 15 years old. But he made sure it would run WinNT 4, and that is what he is happy with.
I'm not talking any particular size of talk. And others have far outpaced what I wrote anyway. But as we see above, there are valid reasons for many places to keep systems running outmoded (by today's standard) operating systems. Whether the reason is purely physical (no other hardware will work) or purely financial (not worth the cost of upgrades), or a combination of the two with other considerations thrown in (not worth the risk of trying other hardware), it is up to the business owner to decide, since that is the person who makes or loses money based on the decision.
All I can do is research the issue and give recommendations. I can't force them to spend money if they don't want to.
When it died last year, I grapped another Win98 computer I have on hand and brought it to his business. Loaded the software and he was back up and running.
I then bought another Win98 computer that someone was selling, and it is sitting in the corner, waiting its turn.
Really. One of my customers has a Win98 box, because it controls a $50,000 device. Another one runs NT Server, because porting 100,000+ part numbers to a new database isn't worth the upgrade.
People forget these contraptions we are typing on are simply tools, especially to businesses that focus on their own products, not what OS is on their computer.
No, I saw the name of the show. I just don't watch it, so have no idea what it is, other than seeing that it's on the Cartoon Network. Sorry for the confusion.
Now I must run back to the "Bash John McAfee" thread.:^)
Unfortunately, the third party candidates never get any national coverage, so get very few votes. They need to do something majorly news-worthy if they want to be noticed in 2016.
See my sig for what I consider to be the most effective move they could make.
Apparently Joce640k wants to have a high resolution camera with a tablet computer. If that's what he wants, why should you consider that to be unreasonable?
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You didn't read the last 10 words of that same sentence, did you?
I'm not trying to get in a pissing match, but it does seem like you are saying all these outdated systems are on the internet.
It could be like saying "at least in Spain Spanish" as opposed to phrasing it as "at least in Spanish Spanish".
In a certain light, it makes more sense.
I'm not the one freaking out about guns, you apparently are.
Look at the text of the Amendment. The operative part is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
If you are saying I'm not allowed to buy a gun unless you know about that, you are infringing on my right to keep it and bear it. Therefore your law does not follow the Constitution. If you can't accept that, get a new Amendment passed that invalidates the Second Amendment. Then you have the authority to whatever the hell you want.
Until then, kindly go fuck yourself.
Thank you Les, for your on the spot coverage of today's horrendous catastrophe.
(I loved that scene, and have quoted it a few times in other forums as well. ;^) )
So you support the Tea Party and Libertarian wings of the Republican party, right?
Yeah, I didn't think so. You guys are so predictable. You keep saying you want 'principled Republicans' and 'loyal opposition', but you can't stand anyone who doesn't agree with your viewpoint. You only want Republicans who are yes-men to your wildest ramblings. And you think others don't notice it.
We just usually ignore your idiocy, because it's not worth the hassle of pointing out the hypocrisy and deceit.
If by "hard landing" you mean "civil war", I agree with you.
It's time to start stockpiling the essentials.
You seriously think his company has no competitors? And no competitors that are young and have shit for brains like yourself? There's probably been dozens that have used your business method and failed because they couldn't handle the upgrade cycle of MS Office, let alone the operating system.
Putz.
Not all computers are on the internet of things.
The hardware may be free, as in already there, but my time isn't. If they don't want to pay me, or can't pay me until the economy actually recovers, then the system stays as it is now. I mentioned above, but the Win98 system died last fall, just as that customer started a big job for a customer. He called me in a panic, I grabbed a Win98 system I had in my room, brought it to his shop, loaded the software, and he was back up that afternoon. A week later, I bought another Win98 system that someone was looking to sell, so I have one on hand if needed.
Would a newer system work in its place? Probably. But he isn't interested in paying me to find out. And the software is very specialized to run one piece of machinery, so I can't exactly test it at home. After reading some of the responses above, I may give some effort to trying Linux with a VM, but I haven't used either too much and have no idea what I would be able to make work for this case. It is worth a look-see though. :^)
As for the WinNT server with the database, this is a new client (not same one as the Win98), so I don't know the whole details. But he explained that the database is some custom software that he's used forever, and he has looked into porting it to something newer. But the task would have to be done manually by a database expert, and it isn't worth the attempt. The box is actually a newer HP server, not something 15 years old. But he made sure it would run WinNT 4, and that is what he is happy with.
I'm not talking any particular size of talk. And others have far outpaced what I wrote anyway. But as we see above, there are valid reasons for many places to keep systems running outmoded (by today's standard) operating systems. Whether the reason is purely physical (no other hardware will work) or purely financial (not worth the cost of upgrades), or a combination of the two with other considerations thrown in (not worth the risk of trying other hardware), it is up to the business owner to decide, since that is the person who makes or loses money based on the decision.
All I can do is research the issue and give recommendations. I can't force them to spend money if they don't want to.
When it died last year, I grapped another Win98 computer I have on hand and brought it to his business. Loaded the software and he was back up and running.
I then bought another Win98 computer that someone was selling, and it is sitting in the corner, waiting its turn.
Then those will be the motherboards they are using. I didn't insist they will be changing hardware, just speculating on what happens if they need to.
So what's your plan going forward? Will you use XP ten or twenty years from now?
They probably will, if there are motherboards that still support it.
Really. One of my customers has a Win98 box, because it controls a $50,000 device. Another one runs NT Server, because porting 100,000+ part numbers to a new database isn't worth the upgrade.
People forget these contraptions we are typing on are simply tools, especially to businesses that focus on their own products, not what OS is on their computer.
No, I saw the name of the show. I just don't watch it, so have no idea what it is, other than seeing that it's on the Cartoon Network. Sorry for the confusion.
Now I must run back to the "Bash John McAfee" thread. :^)
Oh, Belizean. My bad.
Fuck the moderators, that's funny. Creepy, but funny.
Not that I'd know about such matters, of course.
Weird. I was posting about hot peppers, and felt a mysterious tug from the ether.
I'm not sure if I've been summoned or not...
Anyway, how may I assist you?
How hot do you like your peppers?
Cool link. I have no idea what show that is, but it did make me smile.
Well done.
Citation needed. :^)
You must be new around here...
How'd you know? :)
Wow. Asking a question for clarification is 'trolling' now?
How small minded some moderators are.
Who is taking away women's rights? Please, be specific.
Unfortunately, the third party candidates never get any national coverage, so get very few votes. They need to do something majorly news-worthy if they want to be noticed in 2016.
See my sig for what I consider to be the most effective move they could make.
Apparently Joce640k wants to have a high resolution camera with a tablet computer. If that's what he wants, why should you consider that to be unreasonable?