The problem is not fast food labor. The problem is that a large percentage of jobs are in China. There are fewer hi-tech manufacturing jobs in the United States. Life in the U.S. is rapidly degrading.
It's good that low-level jobs are taken by machines. It's bad if the hi-level jobs of designing, manufacturing, and maintaining those machines are all taken by Chinese.
In Hong Kong, a long time ago, I met a man who was having golf clubs made in China. He said he taught a Chinese man to design the factory. He found later that the Chinese man's brother was building an identical factory to make golf clubs that would compete with his business.
This is an excellent book that tells one part of the story of degradation: Poorly Made in China: An Insider's Account of the Tactics Behind China's Production Game. There are many other, related issues.
that's always been the way. Dodge Brothers start out by making parts for Olds and Ford, then strike out on their own, for instance. Chinese are no different in that light. What's different is that they have been taught by most of the American companies who outsourced production there that price is everything, and quality is meaningless. Craftsman tools being a shining example.
I refuse to use self-service lines. Why the fuck am I going to work as a cashier and not get paid for it, and not even get a discount on the items? No, I want a human who is trying to make a living to ring up my items for me. If you try to "force" people to use self-checkout by having only one register + 6 self-checkout lanes open I'll leave the cart full of groceries and walk out and buy from your competitor instead.
If you're going to have robots running the fast food joint, I'll give it a miss and go to the salad bar at Whole Foods instead and I'll be better off with that healthier food choice anyhow.:)
it's all ass backwards around here. the cashiers in the supermarket are mostly Ben Carson level, and the self-checkout lanes are incapable of dealing with half the coupons from the paper.
Companies hate their employees. Labor costs are a barrier to higher profits. Employees are treated as liabilities.
Not true! i remember a Dilbert strip from a while ago. "Our employees are our most precious resource. Whenever our stock begins to drop, we lay a bunch of them off and it rises again"
Simp, in this usage, was short for simpleton. See, I told you that you'd not get it. It was a play on words, a pun - if you will, but not a very good one - one made even worse by having to explain it. It was also not the one I'd have originally gone with but that would have suffered the same fate.
Ah well... 2/3rds of "pun" is "P-U." (Best said allowed, of course. Just not in polite company, or folks you want to respect you the next morning.)
Events that might be considered "once in a lifetime" will happen with such frequency that insurers simply won't provide cover.
No it won't. It is a self correcting problem. A couple of extreme hurricanes and drought, the life expectancy will drop, lifetime will shorten, and the events will become once-in-a-lifetime again. BTW for all those who get killed by these weather events, they are already once in a lifetime events.
thus, the popularity of ever taller platform shoes in miami
It's not the gradual rise that's the issue but the increased likelihood of extreme events. Events that might be considered "once in a lifetime" will happen with such frequency that insurers simply won't provide cover. People living in at-risk areas will be wiped out so often that they'll be driven to live somewhere else. It doesn't help that Florida is so flat either since it means storm surges could well travel miles inland and do damage.
"I was driving with Harold Wanless through Miami Beach one day when the sun suddenly disappeared and the skies opened up. When it rains in Miami, it's spooky. Blue sky vanishes and suddenly water is everywhere, pooling in streets, flooding parking lots, turning intersections into submarine crossings. Even for a nonbeliever like me, it feels biblical, as if God were punishing the good citizens of Miami Beach for spending too much time on the dance floor. At Alton Road and 10th Street, we watched a woman in a Toyota stall at a traffic light as water rose up to the doors. A man waded out to help her, water up to his knees. This flooding has gotten worse with each passing year, happening not only after torrential rainstorms but during high tides, too, when rising sea water backs up through the city's antiquated drainage system. Wanless, 71, who drives an SUV that is littered with research equipment, notebooks and mud, shook his head with pity. "This is what global warming looks like," he explained. "If you live in South Florida and you're not building a boat, you're not facing reality."
http://www.rollingstone.com/po...
May I suggest you start talking to the Dutch. Their language sounds like a mix of German, English and a throat infection, but I assure you, they all understand and speak English excellently. The name "Netherlands" means "lower countries". You know that the Netherlands are famous for windmills, right? Well, those aren't all mills. Many are wind pumps, which were used to drain the land, most of which is below sea level.
"Some engineers point to the coastal resort community of Scheveningen in Holland as a possible inspiration for what might be done in Miami. In Scheveningen, engineers created an elaborate dike with a road and parking within it, as well as pedestrian walks and a man-made sand dune. But Scheveningen has an altogether different geology and coastline than southern Florida. Then there is the question of scale: The dike at Scheveningen is a half-mile long and cost nearly $100 million to design and construct. Miami Beach alone is seven miles long – the entire Florida coastline is more than 1,200 miles. Even if an elaborate dike like this were possible, you can't build a wall along the entire coast. If you just walled off Miami Beach, the water would still flow in from the bay side."
http://www.rollingstone.com/po...
And pumps do wonders to remove water that gets past the wall. Or is New Orleans still flooded from Katrina and the levy breaches?
There are ways to mitigate. Just like the climate deniers can't wave their hands and make science go away, you cannot wave your hands and make engineering go away.
"Obey explains that when there is a torrential rain (a frequent occurrence) and inland Florida floods, there is nowhere for the water to go. Cities on the western edge of Miami-Dade County, such as Hialeah and Sweetwater, are now at risk of massive flooding with every big storm. To solve this, the South Florida Water District is installing pumps on the freshwater side of the control structures on the canals. The pumps, which cost about $70 million each, can take the runoff water from storms and pump it into the ocean to alleviate flooding.
But stopping saltwater incursion is more difficult. The town of Hallandale Beach, just a few miles north of Miami, had to close six of its eight wells due to saltwater intrusion. The town now buys half its water from a well field in Broward County and is working on a deal to drill six new wells of its own, at a cost of about $10 million. Fort Lauderdale has also faced saltwater intrusion, as has Lake Worth, a community just south of Palm Beach. "In the long run, the whole area is likely to have problems," Obey says." http://www.rollingstone.com/po...
Well it's too bad that our friends can't be with us today
Well it's too bad
The machine that we built
Would never save us that's what they say
That's why they ain't comin' with us today
And they also said it's impossible
For a man to live and breathe underwater
Forever was a main complaint
Yeah and they also threw this in my face they said
Anyway you know good and well
It would be beyond the will of god
And the grace of the king
Grace of the king
Yeah
The damage is done. You can play 'coulda woulda shoulda' and 'I told you so" if you want, but all that accomplishes is an increase of smugness, and a continuation of division.
It's time to stop with that bullshit, and actually do something about it. We have several decades before this becomes a problem, which can be used to mitigate the damage.
Did you miss the part about how you can't build walls? How are you going to pump water away when there's no wall?
You can't build a wall because the reason these idiots live there is because of the view. They're not going to allow a wall to be built. And they Floridians: they don't believe in the sea levels rising, no matter how much evidence you show them, even if water is in their houses.
You Europeans seem to find it impossible to grasp just how stupid a lot of us Americans are. Here's a clue: go read your own history books about how Europeans were back when they were burning people at the stake for believing the "wrong" theology. That's similar to the mentality of about half of America's population today. And Florida has an especially high concentration of them.
also, re florida; florida is built on limestone. limestone is pervious
And pumps do wonders to remove water that gets past the wall. Or is New Orleans still flooded from Katrina and the levy breaches?
There are ways to mitigate. Just like the climate deniers can't wave their hands and make science go away, you cannot wave your hands and make engineering go away.
yeah, but pumps require power; and in a storm, power goes away.
of course, any decent engineer will design around that, but not on a budget.
All bank transactions are logged. Transactions over $10K are scrutinized. But don't be fooled into thinking many small transactions will get you by the filters. There are people out there smarter than thou.
Scene from cop show (can't remember which) last season: cops open briefcase, it's full of money. Cop A counts it: "Damn, Only $9,990, doesn't violate the law". Cop B pulls out wallet, tosses a $20 into the briefcase: 'Count it again'.
We have all this technology to do advanced tracking, consumer prediction, ad-targeting, etc. Advanced. Hyper-advanced.
Yet - watching the primary elections occurring on America - and all elections for that matter - our electoral system is a fucking farce. A complete fucking farce. A throwback to the horse-and-buggy era.
Where is the biometric voter verification? What about advanced electoral forensics and analysis?
Its this way because - because of the massive farce - because the corrupt mostly Democrat-controlled political machines across the country want it that way. They want no voter verification. They want the 20 million illegals who flooded into the country to vote. They don't care about ballot-box stuffing in the precinct centers in the 'hood where the voter turnouts would otherwise be around 10%.
Its time to call BS on America's electoral system.
We have all this advanced technology, and *this* is the voting system we have?!? AYFKM?
I hope one of the things Donald Trump does when he's in office is to start implementing the electoral system that America deserves, not this farce.
even fox news disagrees. "Several states adopted new laws last year requiring that people show a photo ID when they come to vote even though the kind of election fraud that the laws are intended to stamp out is rare." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/24/voter-id-laws-target-rarely-occurring-voter-fraud.html
"Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.
Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?_r=0
"Claim: List cites instances proving voter fraud in the 2012 U.S. presidential election.
FALSE"
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp
"Summary of eRumor:
"This is a forwarded email that cited alleged instances of voter fraud during the 2012 presidential election in an effort to prove voter ID laws are necessary.
The Truth:
This eRumor contains a mix of accurate and false data that fails to prove there was widespread voter fraud during the 2012 election."
https://www.truthorfiction.com/2012-voter-fraud/
"Like many of you, our eyebrows raised when we first read this headline out of Georgia: “Fulton election results show more than 100% turnout in 4 precincts.” The culprit causing strange turnout during this primary election? Confusion at the polls over newly redistricted precincts. Because Fulton County failed to revise their voter rolls in time, many voters were erroneously listed in the wrong districts and thus showed up at the wrong place to vote." http://lwv.org/blog/georgia-exceeds-100-voter-turnout
"A new nationwide analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent." http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/11/13236464-new-database-of-us-voter-fraud-finds-no-evidence-that-photo-id-laws-are-needed
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The problem is not fast food labor. The problem is that a large percentage of jobs are in China. There are fewer hi-tech manufacturing jobs in the United States. Life in the U.S. is rapidly degrading. It's good that low-level jobs are taken by machines. It's bad if the hi-level jobs of designing, manufacturing, and maintaining those machines are all taken by Chinese. In Hong Kong, a long time ago, I met a man who was having golf clubs made in China. He said he taught a Chinese man to design the factory. He found later that the Chinese man's brother was building an identical factory to make golf clubs that would compete with his business. This is an excellent book that tells one part of the story of degradation: Poorly Made in China: An Insider's Account of the Tactics Behind China's Production Game. There are many other, related issues.
that's always been the way. Dodge Brothers start out by making parts for Olds and Ford, then strike out on their own, for instance. Chinese are no different in that light. What's different is that they have been taught by most of the American companies who outsourced production there that price is everything, and quality is meaningless. Craftsman tools being a shining example.
I refuse to use self-service lines. Why the fuck am I going to work as a cashier and not get paid for it, and not even get a discount on the items? No, I want a human who is trying to make a living to ring up my items for me. If you try to "force" people to use self-checkout by having only one register + 6 self-checkout lanes open I'll leave the cart full of groceries and walk out and buy from your competitor instead.
If you're going to have robots running the fast food joint, I'll give it a miss and go to the salad bar at Whole Foods instead and I'll be better off with that healthier food choice anyhow. :)
it's all ass backwards around here. the cashiers in the supermarket are mostly Ben Carson level, and the self-checkout lanes are incapable of dealing with half the coupons from the paper.
Companies hate their employees. Labor costs are a barrier to higher profits. Employees are treated as liabilities.
Not true! i remember a Dilbert strip from a while ago. "Our employees are our most precious resource. Whenever our stock begins to drop, we lay a bunch of them off and it rises again"
Just quick note. Rats in the feed become competitive advantage, they are ground up, grilled and served up as rat-patty. Nice!
well, I'll have a slice without so much rat in it.
http://www.theautomat.net/
Simp, in this usage, was short for simpleton. See, I told you that you'd not get it. It was a play on words, a pun - if you will, but not a very good one - one made even worse by having to explain it. It was also not the one I'd have originally gone with but that would have suffered the same fate.
Ah well... 2/3rds of "pun" is "P-U." (Best said allowed, of course. Just not in polite company, or folks you want to respect you the next morning.)
makes sense. after all, his son was a chimp.
Events that might be considered "once in a lifetime" will happen with such frequency that insurers simply won't provide cover.
No it won't. It is a self correcting problem. A couple of extreme hurricanes and drought, the life expectancy will drop, lifetime will shorten, and the events will become once-in-a-lifetime again. BTW for all those who get killed by these weather events, they are already once in a lifetime events.
thus, the popularity of ever taller platform shoes in miami
It's not the gradual rise that's the issue but the increased likelihood of extreme events. Events that might be considered "once in a lifetime" will happen with such frequency that insurers simply won't provide cover. People living in at-risk areas will be wiped out so often that they'll be driven to live somewhere else. It doesn't help that Florida is so flat either since it means storm surges could well travel miles inland and do damage.
"I was driving with Harold Wanless through Miami Beach one day when the sun suddenly disappeared and the skies opened up. When it rains in Miami, it's spooky. Blue sky vanishes and suddenly water is everywhere, pooling in streets, flooding parking lots, turning intersections into submarine crossings. Even for a nonbeliever like me, it feels biblical, as if God were punishing the good citizens of Miami Beach for spending too much time on the dance floor. At Alton Road and 10th Street, we watched a woman in a Toyota stall at a traffic light as water rose up to the doors. A man waded out to help her, water up to his knees. This flooding has gotten worse with each passing year, happening not only after torrential rainstorms but during high tides, too, when rising sea water backs up through the city's antiquated drainage system. Wanless, 71, who drives an SUV that is littered with research equipment, notebooks and mud, shook his head with pity. "This is what global warming looks like," he explained. "If you live in South Florida and you're not building a boat, you're not facing reality." http://www.rollingstone.com/po...
May I suggest you start talking to the Dutch. Their language sounds like a mix of German, English and a throat infection, but I assure you, they all understand and speak English excellently. The name "Netherlands" means "lower countries". You know that the Netherlands are famous for windmills, right? Well, those aren't all mills. Many are wind pumps, which were used to drain the land, most of which is below sea level.
"Some engineers point to the coastal resort community of Scheveningen in Holland as a possible inspiration for what might be done in Miami. In Scheveningen, engineers created an elaborate dike with a road and parking within it, as well as pedestrian walks and a man-made sand dune. But Scheveningen has an altogether different geology and coastline than southern Florida. Then there is the question of scale: The dike at Scheveningen is a half-mile long and cost nearly $100 million to design and construct. Miami Beach alone is seven miles long – the entire Florida coastline is more than 1,200 miles. Even if an elaborate dike like this were possible, you can't build a wall along the entire coast. If you just walled off Miami Beach, the water would still flow in from the bay side." http://www.rollingstone.com/po...
And pumps do wonders to remove water that gets past the wall. Or is New Orleans still flooded from Katrina and the levy breaches?
There are ways to mitigate. Just like the climate deniers can't wave their hands and make science go away, you cannot wave your hands and make engineering go away.
"Obey explains that when there is a torrential rain (a frequent occurrence) and inland Florida floods, there is nowhere for the water to go. Cities on the western edge of Miami-Dade County, such as Hialeah and Sweetwater, are now at risk of massive flooding with every big storm. To solve this, the South Florida Water District is installing pumps on the freshwater side of the control structures on the canals. The pumps, which cost about $70 million each, can take the runoff water from storms and pump it into the ocean to alleviate flooding.
But stopping saltwater incursion is more difficult. The town of Hallandale Beach, just a few miles north of Miami, had to close six of its eight wells due to saltwater intrusion. The town now buys half its water from a well field in Broward County and is working on a deal to drill six new wells of its own, at a cost of about $10 million. Fort Lauderdale has also faced saltwater intrusion, as has Lake Worth, a community just south of Palm Beach. "In the long run, the whole area is likely to have problems," Obey says." http://www.rollingstone.com/po...
it would cost a few million clams.
Well it's too bad that our friends can't be with us today
Well it's too bad
The machine that we built
Would never save us that's what they say
That's why they ain't comin' with us today
And they also said it's impossible
For a man to live and breathe underwater
Forever was a main complaint
Yeah and they also threw this in my face they said
Anyway you know good and well
It would be beyond the will of god
And the grace of the king
Grace of the king
Yeah
Let's just remember that this is the state where in 2015, Department of Environmental Protection employees were banned from usage of the term "climate change" or "global warming". .
i don''t like the sound of that "blimate bange"
Is a class tunnel some means by which one travels between socioeconomic enclaves?
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/t...
And the sea will be held back with a wall, and THE SEA WILL BE FORCED TO PAY FOR IT!!!
the freshwater fish will be deported! they're all rapists, and the ocean is deliberately sending them here.
Any number multiplied by itself is zero.
say what?
The damage is done. You can play 'coulda woulda shoulda' and 'I told you so" if you want, but all that accomplishes is an increase of smugness, and a continuation of division.
It's time to stop with that bullshit, and actually do something about it. We have several decades before this becomes a problem, which can be used to mitigate the damage.
longer snorkels for everyone
Soon to be head in the mud.
Mudhead? Where's Peorgie?
The Benevolent God made the Earth for mankind and gave man dominion over it. Except that He made it 75% salt water.
Did you miss the part about how you can't build walls? How are you going to pump water away when there's no wall?
You can't build a wall because the reason these idiots live there is because of the view. They're not going to allow a wall to be built. And they Floridians: they don't believe in the sea levels rising, no matter how much evidence you show them, even if water is in their houses.
You Europeans seem to find it impossible to grasp just how stupid a lot of us Americans are. Here's a clue: go read your own history books about how Europeans were back when they were burning people at the stake for believing the "wrong" theology. That's similar to the mentality of about half of America's population today. And Florida has an especially high concentration of them.
also, re florida; florida is built on limestone. limestone is pervious
And pumps do wonders to remove water that gets past the wall. Or is New Orleans still flooded from Katrina and the levy breaches?
There are ways to mitigate. Just like the climate deniers can't wave their hands and make science go away, you cannot wave your hands and make engineering go away.
yeah, but pumps require power; and in a storm, power goes away. of course, any decent engineer will design around that, but not on a budget.
Please cite as I am unaware that any county has figured out how to go fully cashless.
bitcoinsylvania
Maybe once, but never when I've paid cash.
my home depot does.
All bank transactions are logged. Transactions over $10K are scrutinized. But don't be fooled into thinking many small transactions will get you by the filters. There are people out there smarter than thou.
Scene from cop show (can't remember which) last season: cops open briefcase, it's full of money. Cop A counts it: "Damn, Only $9,990, doesn't violate the law". Cop B pulls out wallet, tosses a $20 into the briefcase: 'Count it again'.
We have all this technology to do advanced tracking, consumer prediction, ad-targeting, etc. Advanced. Hyper-advanced.
Yet - watching the primary elections occurring on America - and all elections for that matter - our electoral system is a fucking farce. A complete fucking farce. A throwback to the horse-and-buggy era.
Where is the biometric voter verification? What about advanced electoral forensics and analysis?
Its this way because - because of the massive farce - because the corrupt mostly Democrat-controlled political machines across the country want it that way. They want no voter verification. They want the 20 million illegals who flooded into the country to vote. They don't care about ballot-box stuffing in the precinct centers in the 'hood where the voter turnouts would otherwise be around 10%.
Its time to call BS on America's electoral system.
We have all this advanced technology, and *this* is the voting system we have?!? AYFKM?
I hope one of the things Donald Trump does when he's in office is to start implementing the electoral system that America deserves, not this farce.
even fox news disagrees.
"Several states adopted new laws last year requiring that people show a photo ID when they come to vote even though the kind of election fraud that the laws are intended to stamp out is rare."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/24/voter-id-laws-target-rarely-occurring-voter-fraud.html
"Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.
Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?_r=0
"Claim: List cites instances proving voter fraud in the 2012 U.S. presidential election.
FALSE"
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp
"Summary of eRumor: "This is a forwarded email that cited alleged instances of voter fraud during the 2012 presidential election in an effort to prove voter ID laws are necessary.
The Truth: This eRumor contains a mix of accurate and false data that fails to prove there was widespread voter fraud during the 2012 election."
https://www.truthorfiction.com/2012-voter-fraud/
"Like many of you, our eyebrows raised when we first read this headline out of Georgia: “Fulton election results show more than 100% turnout in 4 precincts.” The culprit causing strange turnout during this primary election? Confusion at the polls over newly redistricted precincts. Because Fulton County failed to revise their voter rolls in time, many voters were erroneously listed in the wrong districts and thus showed up at the wrong place to vote."
http://lwv.org/blog/georgia-exceeds-100-voter-turnout
"A new nationwide analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent."
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/11/13236464-new-database-of-us-voter-fraud-finds-no-evidence-that-photo-id-laws-are-needed
"Debunking The Conservative Media's 2014 Voter Fraud Horror Stories" http://mediamatters.org/resear...
"7 papers, 4 government inquiries, 2 news investigations and 1 court ruling proving voter fraud is mostly a myth"