I think the correct term in this case is minor. Teenager, though specific, does not have a legal definition like child (it is more slang). As long as we are being pacific.
IANAL, but fairly sure child 13, 13-17 minor, underage is context specific. It was redundant. But I guess for people that may have no knowledge of COPPA or any of the real issues involved, as they try to write for a broad audience, the redundancy gives clarity to some who might not be able to follow.
Since most people are pretty stupid, and wouldn't assume when they say children that they mean the legal definition of child, they are redundant to get the point across stronger, which is sadly often more effective than just saying the right thing if too many people won't understand. This is a 'news' article, not a white paper on privacy rights. There are limits.
note: feeling suborned today. I want my damn strikethrough.
See, Sony isn't all bad. Weren't they shipping rootkits with music CDs for awhile?
Oh well, there is no way I am giving up the opportunity to tell people that Sony violates children, even if they were nice enough to give everyone free rootkits.
I haven't been the manager on a large scale, but have had the same issues with Blackboard. Have you used both as a student? Both are somewhat new in general for what they provide. Sure they will both mature because of each other.
Moodle does have a bit of a GTK+ feel to it that I have gotten used to. It is very simple and extendable. If you were some kind of php5/flash guru, someone could easily make Moodle really awesome (in ways that should not be the default setup). Good for them. I am impressed there is a school with someone informed enough to even know what Moodle is.
Maybe they are willing to put up with a little extra work and take pride in the freedom that it enables. Some people just prefer to work that way, and a university is all about learning. Not a bad thing to add to the work if it is rewarding.
Honestly, I think I have as MANY problems under Ubuntu as I did with windows. Mac is just a different story. The difference is that I feel good every time I fix a Linux issue, and I feel sick getting done fixing a Windows problem. It is really just personal... however, I spend a lot more time programming for fun since switching, while on windows I played games. It is really just a personal choice of what you want to do.
I also refuse to fix peoples broken windows applications / installations, whatever. I just say "I forgot how to, I do Linux now". One exception, I will show people how to setup and use free software when they want to switch, usually OpenOffice, Firefox, and such.
That is because it is easy to find on TPB for anyone that really wants it, like everything else... and where do people not complain about windows, and when does it "just work"? Actually, I wouldn't know. I never used Vista and havn't used any kind of windows in a very long time. Guess they got all the bugs out. Good to hear for those that really held on there. Way to go Microsoft.
"Liberty is the right to scream theater in a crowded fire". BSD is the NICE GPL, but when it comes down to reality and what people want from their 'free' software, you need to be specific, and you need to fight for it. The best example from both sides is MacOSX. Is MacOSX FreeBSD? NO, actually, hell no. It is BASED on FreeBSD, but many of the things that made FreeBSD great are dead IMO. If you want to write "free and forget about it" code, BSD is great so long as you can comfortably never care what happens to it. If you write code to be part of a community, but selfishly want to keep it free the way you want to keep it free for "everyone or no one", then you want GPL. There had once been more controversy over "the more free license". BSD is more free to do ANYTHING, but GPL is more free to stay free. Personally, I like the direction things have gone. I would like to see a stronger community of BSD developers, but who wants to work for gratis. Libre has the selfish intrinsic rewards devs need to earn their time... again, in my somewhat limited observation.
Honestly, this is not flame bait, but I compare in my mind, BSD is free like giving the government the freedom to take all your rights away. Do you want a free government, or an oppressed one. GPL is the regime of oppression:) and proud of it!
Would you really believe that someone that knows that little knowledge of Linux would have such (relatively) intimate knowledge of OS/2? That was the complete give away. Not to mention I think when tech people say things anywhere in the realm of 'critical parts', non-computer people start to glaze over. I know much smarter people than the one portrayed here that doesn't even know there are "parts" to what he is describing.
replace Blackboard with Moodle. When I was first starting to learn php, found moodle really easy to customize, in addition to just being great running on default. Nothing that NEEDS to be configured much to get started any more than Blackboard. Blackboard does provide hosting, but at an outrageous rate that is not really a 'hosting' price. On the other hand I have gotten many more teachers to use the Blackboard system just telling them how much the district spends per year just to have the service available.
On a side note, when the tubes came to the district, one high school hired a bunch of IT people, and the other had an industry experienced teacher run several classes that had students expand and maintain the network. The student run network was quite superior. In 1998 they managed to get an OC3 line DONATED by a local company, and a partial Class B Internet license, just to name a few things. Downtime was negligible and never during school hours. While the 'professional' school dwindled with poor service, and just the local service paid for by the school, the student run program was scraped after 4 years when students that graduated had not documented their code. It was mostly customized FreeBSD setup. (The other school was using NT4). Rather than addressing the issue with the teacher, program was terminated permanently. They hired a bunch of techs to take their place, and within about 2 years they decided it was too expensive and now there are some 6 people that go around fixing problems for the whole district.
And THIS in Silicon Valley!
I may have missed some of the details of all what happened, but I do know the kids today don't know hardly anything about computers other than how to play video games, but props to the few that can customize a myspace page. Now, email or Internet access in general is out every few days for up to several hours. Rarely, but a few times, it has been out every day for about 2 hours in the morning for a week+.
Too bad something like technology can't be used directly to teach students about the modern world, like, the technology itself while making money to have a quality infrastructure. Oh well.
Just to note, I asked the IT staff about OpenOffice, because I heard they were having major budget problems, and they said that they did a 'trial run' and for too many teachers they concluded the transition would be too difficult, and too many teachers couldn't figure it out. They are going to transition to Office 2007 instead for all the computer labs (eventually as they can afford it). I stopped making suggestions after that.
Anyway, shout out to Moodle for anyone interested in education. It is simple enough I would recommend it to (tech savvy) parents to use at home to manage their kids homework and chores, just as an idea.
Real time demos are economically viable, but I think they are very poor in quality. They are neat to see, and communities enjoy such teasers, but they are not what communities are built on.
I think ID could improve their business by doing all FOSS. The more their work gets out there, the more people will want to hire them to start FOSS projects. I think what you demonstrated here was a perfect example of how two companies can work together well together. ID has certain unique talents, as you are arguing, and we know FOSS projects like any other are hard to get off the ground. Each company gets what they want.
A game whose server is free software from day one doesn't have this first-mover advantage.
being first makes a big difference, but starting at the same time there is going to be a lot of quick judgments. This is where it is a matter of knowing your skill and not just having a thing. What is special about YOU making the software rather than just anybody making the software?Of course, if you don't have anything else to contribute, then you are burned.
The trick here is give away the software, don't give away your business. The problem is that games, in a way, are worthless. They have no value to the developer, necessarily. If you look at most all games for Linux, they are from people that just wanted a game. If goal is to play a good game, then make a game and make it FOSS. Your objective will be best met.
The thing with boxware games though is take something of no utilitarian value, and create an artificial scarcity. FOSS says there is no need to create an artificial scarcity when there is real scarcity in demand, development. Maybe a subscription to an official distribution channel. but of course PGP signed torrents are becoming less scarce, but an official mirror is probably the kind of trusted source people are willing to pay for. I think Verisign has made quite a bit of money doing business exactly like that. People will pay to be connected to a trusted content stream so long as the stream continues to provide quality. Sadly, look at the popularity of Gaia Online; almost exactly that kind of model now that I think about it. Personally, I don't like buying a game I end up not liking or playing for more than a few hours. But, a distribution channel where, say I could get every game Id puts out? $20/month? Equivalent to buying a new game every 2 months. Some people buy a lot more, but many don't. I think people would pay more than what they spend on average right now to get every game.
The industry is changing, and as it stands, games are very low margin software. There is also no direct benefit to the producer to see the game get better by its users. This is why I think games on Linux are so different.
And as far as Hollywood goes, I would be happy to simply see their type of movie go away in preference for a Free Culture society. I watch mostly independent films, and browsing YuTube is often more entertaining than going to the theater, for me.
For certain in the entertainment industry, they will need to find a way to adapt or die and until then they will try to make criminals out of a society that rejects their business model just because it ONCE worked. I am working to help, but to my own end. I see no motivation in helping the RIAA adapt with as much as they have been unwilling to. If there be an entertainment tax, that needs to be managed in a good way, but that is something to write about another time.
Oh, and almost missed it. I disagree big screens and home theater systems are "the norm". I agree it is what many covet, but just look at how many people still use rabbit ears. Just because it is high demand doesn't necessarily mean it is what everyone has. Further, I don't think this in any way mens that it would be impossible for theaters to operate and provide some kind of service worthy of paying for. Companies have always had to give competitive advantage against trade-offs.
Gotta agree your post is MUCH funnier than the parent. Either the modder didn't read your whole post, or they didn't get it. Not to mention I really thought the
if you're going to pick a fight, pick a freakin' fight! Now where did I put that Zoloft?
was really the give away for the slow people, but oh well. Some people arn't loosers, and some don't rtfc when they mod. Oh well.
I am sure Microsoft will find someway to sue them for trademark infringement, or something. Maybe they can still get a patent, not for the virus, but for "a method or process for efficiently and discretely inserting points in code for future necessary improvements to amortize software engineering productivity". eh?
+1 not a looser. A malicious plugin? sure, but not this one. You need to be tricked into installing the malware, then at the plugin developers (whoever) can choose to install it on your system, basically.
Taking the humanitarianism out of the equation (as wonderful as it is) this is the perfect opportunity for hands on experience. Lawyers usually only get to look at the same old cases that have been reviewed to death, but here is the opportunity go up against the same prosecutor in the same case over and over again. These are nearly scripted debate speeches. Sure, in a way you could say that is what a lawyer does, but this is uniquely different in that there are just sooo many cases, all with the same prosecutor fighting the same fight.
A class where students get into groups and provide legal council in different cases that almost all look the same? Computer science students can get identical computers, biologists can dissect many of the same species, but I don' think before the RIAA started going sue happy across the country was there such an opportunity to standardize a law class year after year fighting the same case in a real courtroom over and over again.
This is going to help real people, but realistically I hope it doesn't last long. I can just see it now: RIAA gets bailout from congress to save law school curriculum across country. HA!
Good law schools should really take advantage of this opportunity. I think schools could be judged by this for how up to date they are and how much they really care about their lawyers getting real experience in the classroom.
I have actually heard people telling me that they were going to skip Vista and wait for Mojave. I guess the lesson here is that sheep are delicate creatures, try not to confuse them or they will get lost.
Mac has boxes sold to represent themselves. Also, last I heard, mac had some huge market share of computers over $1000. I think that puts things into perspective. Another thing to compare to Mac v. Windows v. Linux market share is how much larger the porn industry is compared to Hollywood. Linux is the joke of the computer world as much as Hollywood is the joke of the movie industry, just looking at market share.
If Linux is useful and productive, then that accounts for 0% market share. If Microsoft sells an OEM license to Dell for up to 1 million installs, then that means 1M users. Ooh, and careful you call it desktop Linux, and not Linux server, embedded system, non-x86 platform, or non-commercial distribution and woot, you have found a way to represent your numbers that make your threat look very small... and see the investors flock!
It is written in Java script, but the delivery system is windows only. This malware also does not use its own delivery system. (don't worry, you would have to read the article to know that and we all know reading the article is for losers)
I think an important thing to note here is that this is not using a Firefox exploit. It is using existing malware to manually install a plugin into Firefox. There is no proof of concept here at all, but point taken.
There are some really fancy words they use here to blow this completely out of proportion, for example, the word 'new' is completely inappropriate. I am pretty sure 'drive-by download' means 'thoughtless download'. Or go to any number of sites that track windows bugs that are begging Microsoft to fix (since you are not allowed to fix bugs yourself) and pick any number of vulnerabilities that would enable this. It is just yet another implementation of some old exploits.
And mind you, fta, it requires that a system already be infected with other malware that will install this java into your plugins folder. Unless the delivery system is cross platform, there is no way to get this into your plugins folder. Second, if it is installed manually, there is no validation necessary because it is not using the browser for the installation. Next, more than likely because this is being done remotely, the easiest thing to do is assume one kind of standard installation, and given it is masquerading as GreaseMonkey, it is better to cover your tracks by only installing the plugin onto machines that have a straight forward, default, c-drive install of Firefox. Having manually installed plugins before via script (custom ubuntu installer) different broswers, even between Mozilla web browser and Firefox web browser use different names for their directories. While it could hunt for the plugin directory and figure it out, that is a bit more work than just an assume or fail delivery system.
Since reading the article is for loosers anyway...
This [plugin] is intended to be delivered onto a compromised computer system by other malware for subsequent download into Mozilla Firefox's Plugin folder
Since the computer need already be compromised... sure you can draw your own conclusion on that one:)
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I think the correct term in this case is minor. Teenager, though specific, does not have a legal definition like child (it is more slang). As long as we are being pacific.
IANAL, but fairly sure child 13, 13-17 minor, underage is context specific. It was redundant. But I guess for people that may have no knowledge of COPPA or any of the real issues involved, as they try to write for a broad audience, the redundancy gives clarity to some who might not be able to follow.
Since most people are pretty stupid, and wouldn't assume when they say children that they mean the legal definition of child, they are redundant to get the point across stronger, which is sadly often more effective than just saying the right thing if too many people won't understand. This is a 'news' article, not a white paper on privacy rights. There are limits.
note: feeling suborned today. I want my damn strikethrough.
See, Sony isn't all bad. Weren't they shipping rootkits with music CDs for awhile?
Oh well, there is no way I am giving up the opportunity to tell people that Sony violates children, even if they were nice enough to give everyone free rootkits.
I haven't been the manager on a large scale, but have had the same issues with Blackboard. Have you used both as a student? Both are somewhat new in general for what they provide. Sure they will both mature because of each other.
Moodle does have a bit of a GTK+ feel to it that I have gotten used to. It is very simple and extendable. If you were some kind of php5/flash guru, someone could easily make Moodle really awesome (in ways that should not be the default setup). Good for them. I am impressed there is a school with someone informed enough to even know what Moodle is.
Maybe they are willing to put up with a little extra work and take pride in the freedom that it enables. Some people just prefer to work that way, and a university is all about learning. Not a bad thing to add to the work if it is rewarding.
Honestly, I think I have as MANY problems under Ubuntu as I did with windows. Mac is just a different story. The difference is that I feel good every time I fix a Linux issue, and I feel sick getting done fixing a Windows problem. It is really just personal... however, I spend a lot more time programming for fun since switching, while on windows I played games. It is really just a personal choice of what you want to do.
I also refuse to fix peoples broken windows applications / installations, whatever. I just say "I forgot how to, I do Linux now". One exception, I will show people how to setup and use free software when they want to switch, usually OpenOffice, Firefox, and such.
That is because it is easy to find on TPB for anyone that really wants it, like everything else... and where do people not complain about windows, and when does it "just work"? Actually, I wouldn't know. I never used Vista and havn't used any kind of windows in a very long time. Guess they got all the bugs out. Good to hear for those that really held on there. Way to go Microsoft.
"Liberty is the right to scream theater in a crowded fire". BSD is the NICE GPL, but when it comes down to reality and what people want from their 'free' software, you need to be specific, and you need to fight for it. The best example from both sides is MacOSX. Is MacOSX FreeBSD? NO, actually, hell no. It is BASED on FreeBSD, but many of the things that made FreeBSD great are dead IMO. If you want to write "free and forget about it" code, BSD is great so long as you can comfortably never care what happens to it. If you write code to be part of a community, but selfishly want to keep it free the way you want to keep it free for "everyone or no one", then you want GPL. There had once been more controversy over "the more free license". BSD is more free to do ANYTHING, but GPL is more free to stay free. Personally, I like the direction things have gone. I would like to see a stronger community of BSD developers, but who wants to work for gratis. Libre has the selfish intrinsic rewards devs need to earn their time... again, in my somewhat limited observation.
:) and proud of it!
Honestly, this is not flame bait, but I compare in my mind, BSD is free like giving the government the freedom to take all your rights away. Do you want a free government, or an oppressed one. GPL is the regime of oppression
The parent is not serious.
Would you really believe that someone that knows that little knowledge of Linux would have such (relatively) intimate knowledge of OS/2? That was the complete give away. Not to mention I think when tech people say things anywhere in the realm of 'critical parts', non-computer people start to glaze over. I know much smarter people than the one portrayed here that doesn't even know there are "parts" to what he is describing.
Not sure if that would qualify as 'enterprise', but a good suggestion. I think this article would ALSO be popular on digg.
replace Blackboard with Moodle. When I was first starting to learn php, found moodle really easy to customize, in addition to just being great running on default. Nothing that NEEDS to be configured much to get started any more than Blackboard. Blackboard does provide hosting, but at an outrageous rate that is not really a 'hosting' price. On the other hand I have gotten many more teachers to use the Blackboard system just telling them how much the district spends per year just to have the service available.
On a side note, when the tubes came to the district, one high school hired a bunch of IT people, and the other had an industry experienced teacher run several classes that had students expand and maintain the network. The student run network was quite superior. In 1998 they managed to get an OC3 line DONATED by a local company, and a partial Class B Internet license, just to name a few things. Downtime was negligible and never during school hours. While the 'professional' school dwindled with poor service, and just the local service paid for by the school, the student run program was scraped after 4 years when students that graduated had not documented their code. It was mostly customized FreeBSD setup. (The other school was using NT4). Rather than addressing the issue with the teacher, program was terminated permanently. They hired a bunch of techs to take their place, and within about 2 years they decided it was too expensive and now there are some 6 people that go around fixing problems for the whole district.
And THIS in Silicon Valley!
I may have missed some of the details of all what happened, but I do know the kids today don't know hardly anything about computers other than how to play video games, but props to the few that can customize a myspace page. Now, email or Internet access in general is out every few days for up to several hours. Rarely, but a few times, it has been out every day for about 2 hours in the morning for a week+.
Too bad something like technology can't be used directly to teach students about the modern world, like, the technology itself while making money to have a quality infrastructure. Oh well.
Just to note, I asked the IT staff about OpenOffice, because I heard they were having major budget problems, and they said that they did a 'trial run' and for too many teachers they concluded the transition would be too difficult, and too many teachers couldn't figure it out. They are going to transition to Office 2007 instead for all the computer labs (eventually as they can afford it). I stopped making suggestions after that.
Anyway, shout out to Moodle for anyone interested in education. It is simple enough I would recommend it to (tech savvy) parents to use at home to manage their kids homework and chores, just as an idea.
I think ID could improve their business by doing all FOSS. The more their work gets out there, the more people will want to hire them to start FOSS projects. I think what you demonstrated here was a perfect example of how two companies can work together well together. ID has certain unique talents, as you are arguing, and we know FOSS projects like any other are hard to get off the ground. Each company gets what they want.
A game whose server is free software from day one doesn't have this first-mover advantage.
being first makes a big difference, but starting at the same time there is going to be a lot of quick judgments. This is where it is a matter of knowing your skill and not just having a thing. What is special about YOU making the software rather than just anybody making the software?Of course, if you don't have anything else to contribute, then you are burned.
The trick here is give away the software, don't give away your business. The problem is that games, in a way, are worthless. They have no value to the developer, necessarily. If you look at most all games for Linux, they are from people that just wanted a game. If goal is to play a good game, then make a game and make it FOSS. Your objective will be best met.
The thing with boxware games though is take something of no utilitarian value, and create an artificial scarcity. FOSS says there is no need to create an artificial scarcity when there is real scarcity in demand, development. Maybe a subscription to an official distribution channel. but of course PGP signed torrents are becoming less scarce, but an official mirror is probably the kind of trusted source people are willing to pay for. I think Verisign has made quite a bit of money doing business exactly like that. People will pay to be connected to a trusted content stream so long as the stream continues to provide quality. Sadly, look at the popularity of Gaia Online; almost exactly that kind of model now that I think about it. Personally, I don't like buying a game I end up not liking or playing for more than a few hours. But, a distribution channel where, say I could get every game Id puts out? $20/month? Equivalent to buying a new game every 2 months. Some people buy a lot more, but many don't. I think people would pay more than what they spend on average right now to get every game.
The industry is changing, and as it stands, games are very low margin software. There is also no direct benefit to the producer to see the game get better by its users. This is why I think games on Linux are so different.
And as far as Hollywood goes, I would be happy to simply see their type of movie go away in preference for a Free Culture society. I watch mostly independent films, and browsing YuTube is often more entertaining than going to the theater, for me.
For certain in the entertainment industry, they will need to find a way to adapt or die and until then they will try to make criminals out of a society that rejects their business model just because it ONCE worked. I am working to help, but to my own end. I see no motivation in helping the RIAA adapt with as much as they have been unwilling to. If there be an entertainment tax, that needs to be managed in a good way, but that is something to write about another time.
Oh, and almost missed it. I disagree big screens and home theater systems are "the norm". I agree it is what many covet, but just look at how many people still use rabbit ears. Just because it is high demand doesn't necessarily mean it is what everyone has. Further, I don't think this in any way mens that it would be impossible for theaters to operate and provide some kind of service worthy of paying for. Companies have always had to give competitive advantage against trade-offs.
if you're going to pick a fight, pick a freakin' fight! Now where did I put that Zoloft?
was really the give away for the slow people, but oh well. Some people arn't loosers, and some don't rtfc when they mod. Oh well.
I am sure Microsoft will find someway to sue them for trademark infringement, or something. Maybe they can still get a patent, not for the virus, but for "a method or process for efficiently and discretely inserting points in code for future necessary improvements to amortize software engineering productivity". eh?
More proof Microsoft may have already had this trademarked or patented.
+1 not a looser. A malicious plugin? sure, but not this one. You need to be tricked into installing the malware, then at the plugin developers (whoever) can choose to install it on your system, basically.
Taking the humanitarianism out of the equation (as wonderful as it is) this is the perfect opportunity for hands on experience. Lawyers usually only get to look at the same old cases that have been reviewed to death, but here is the opportunity go up against the same prosecutor in the same case over and over again. These are nearly scripted debate speeches. Sure, in a way you could say that is what a lawyer does, but this is uniquely different in that there are just sooo many cases, all with the same prosecutor fighting the same fight.
A class where students get into groups and provide legal council in different cases that almost all look the same? Computer science students can get identical computers, biologists can dissect many of the same species, but I don' think before the RIAA started going sue happy across the country was there such an opportunity to standardize a law class year after year fighting the same case in a real courtroom over and over again.
This is going to help real people, but realistically I hope it doesn't last long. I can just see it now: RIAA gets bailout from congress to save law school curriculum across country. HA!
Good law schools should really take advantage of this opportunity. I think schools could be judged by this for how up to date they are and how much they really care about their lawyers getting real experience in the classroom.
I have actually heard people telling me that they were going to skip Vista and wait for Mojave. I guess the lesson here is that sheep are delicate creatures, try not to confuse them or they will get lost.
Mac has boxes sold to represent themselves. Also, last I heard, mac had some huge market share of computers over $1000. I think that puts things into perspective. Another thing to compare to Mac v. Windows v. Linux market share is how much larger the porn industry is compared to Hollywood. Linux is the joke of the computer world as much as Hollywood is the joke of the movie industry, just looking at market share.
If Linux is useful and productive, then that accounts for 0% market share. If Microsoft sells an OEM license to Dell for up to 1 million installs, then that means 1M users. Ooh, and careful you call it desktop Linux, and not Linux server, embedded system, non-x86 platform, or non-commercial distribution and woot, you have found a way to represent your numbers that make your threat look very small... and see the investors flock!
It is written in Java script, but the delivery system is windows only. This malware also does not use its own delivery system. (don't worry, you would have to read the article to know that and we all know reading the article is for losers)
I think an important thing to note here is that this is not using a Firefox exploit. It is using existing malware to manually install a plugin into Firefox. There is no proof of concept here at all, but point taken.
There are some really fancy words they use here to blow this completely out of proportion, for example, the word 'new' is completely inappropriate. I am pretty sure 'drive-by download' means 'thoughtless download'. Or go to any number of sites that track windows bugs that are begging Microsoft to fix (since you are not allowed to fix bugs yourself) and pick any number of vulnerabilities that would enable this. It is just yet another implementation of some old exploits.
And mind you, fta, it requires that a system already be infected with other malware that will install this java into your plugins folder. Unless the delivery system is cross platform, there is no way to get this into your plugins folder. Second, if it is installed manually, there is no validation necessary because it is not using the browser for the installation. Next, more than likely because this is being done remotely, the easiest thing to do is assume one kind of standard installation, and given it is masquerading as GreaseMonkey, it is better to cover your tracks by only installing the plugin onto machines that have a straight forward, default, c-drive install of Firefox. Having manually installed plugins before via script (custom ubuntu installer) different broswers, even between Mozilla web browser and Firefox web browser use different names for their directories. While it could hunt for the plugin directory and figure it out, that is a bit more work than just an assume or fail delivery system.
This [plugin] is intended to be delivered onto a compromised computer system by other malware for subsequent download into Mozilla Firefox's Plugin folder
Since the computer need already be compromised... sure you can draw your own conclusion on that one :)