Some Norwegian guys == all of Europe A press release on Wired == Big Media
You got this wrong. It's in big media all over Europe, but the web sites are mostly in Norway so far. I saw a lot of coverage by traditional media in Germany.
It's his CD player. Rotel just plainly suxx. They are trying to change the musics "temperature" to make it sound better. And so everything sounds the same - Rotel.
It comes to me as no wonder that the author of your parent cannot discern MP3s from CDs on that setup.
As somebody who learned Haskell first and fell in love with it from first view, I nevertheless find myself rather using Common Lisp for rapid prototyping. You can just program so much dirtier (setf, print, etc.).
Also don't underestimate Prolog. You might want to check out the Ciao Prolog system (http://www.clip.dia.fi.upm.es/Software/Ciao/). It is good for some surprises.
Finally Haskell is not the end of it all, too. Take a look at Curry, a Haskell-like language incorporating the functional AND the logic programming paradigm (http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~hanus/ curry/).
Don't forget Haskell! A purely functional strongly typed language. Not neccessary what you would want to use for CGI - that's what I thought at first. But in reality it really works fine.
I second that. "ANSI Common Lisp" is a really good book to learn LISP (especially macros).
But there is a bit too much propaganda for LISP in some of the chapters. For example in the first chapter: 'Programming is now undergoing a similar change. The new medium is the "object-oriented dynamic language" -- in a word, Lisp.'
But it is a good read nevertheless and LISP is a good solution for a lot of programs that have to be written quick. Although you can get good performance if you know a bit how to tweak it the code normally is a bit slow because you just don't care in your design. But then that's your problem.
As I have not seen anything about this here I will post a short summary of http://www.dfn.de/win/gwin/ueberblick/
"In Germany the so called B-WIN (broadband science network) will be succeded by the so called G-WIN (gigabit science network) during spring 2000. The net offers rates in multiples of 2.5 GBit/s (that is 2.5 for the beginning, 5.0, 7.5, 10.0 and so on later). The main reason for this is to make the german research network i2-compliant."
The rest is just blab blab about how good this is for Germany and how it enables the German people to rule the world;-)
AFAIK factoring has not been proven "hard" (as being np-complete or the like) yet nor is it IMHO likely to be.
Regarding your question, I cannot say if there are "quantum hard" problems that could be used as a trapdoor or anything useful. But there are hard problems even for quantum computers. Hell, there are even UNcomputable problems...
Thanks for your "clarification". Unfortunately I have a hard time agreeing with most of what you have said. I will pick up some of the disturbing points and "clarify" them with my own opinion.
1) You say that there is no anonymity against governmential organisations in e.g. Germany. IMHO you miss that there is some odd concept called "Datenschutz" (engl.: "protection of data") which is very strong here in Germany. It is mainly about governmential organisations not being allowed to do ANYTHING with the data gathered about citizens but use them for those very strictly defined purposes they were collected for. AFAIK there is nothing comparable in e.g. the United States of America.
2) Another point troubling me is the one about this "Nazi-Bertelsmann". If what you say is right, you damn sure know a lot more about the history of Bertelsmann than I do. But the point is that it is "history". Nowadays Bertelsmann is not out to help the "Arian Race" empower itself on top of the world, but like A LOT of other big multinational media companies Bertelsmann is trying to control and squeeze-money-out-of-it as much of the market as possible.
I do not like the idea of censorshop in any way. I do my part by advising people on security and data protection issues and by discussing censorship problems and promoting anti-censorship loudly. But bringing the nazis and/or microsoft into every discussion about such matters is really getting me.
Just wait a moment... 32-bit RSA is not much of a challenge. Has not been so for quite a long time. 32-bit means 10 decimal digits at the most. A good factoring routine can factor a 10 digit product of two approximately 5 digit prime numbers in a quite short time even on a single i386. Of course I see the point of supposedly (but not proven) non-polynomial growth of complexity while increasing key sizes. I think you were refering to the first break of a 128-bit RSA key...
At least for me, this is bullshit. Once a pollow time I used to read newspaper for about 90 minutes a day, watch an hour or two of TV, read a magazine and maybe some pages of a book. The only change now is, that I spent all this time together on the net, reading news, surfing entertaining sites, reading slashdot and maybe some online shakespeare (hey, I can even do that on my toilet - read othello there yesterday, just as I used to do with the books).
as written wrt 2.3.1 i think only announcements should be made that feature a real news element. but thats only my opinion, so why not make a poll:
how would you like your kernels? * i want it all * no development kernels, please * kernels -> slashbox * let me filter them/new category * only important ones * medium with chili and sauce hollondaise
sorry for being offtopic - but i just have to say this:
this thread is one the best ones i've ever seen on slashdot or anywhere else in the internet.
of course, not every comment is a pool of wisdom and knowledge, but on the average this is just what i imagine as an open discussion of a fairly difficult topic.
a normal kernel announcement IMHO should not appear on the frontpage. especially not if we are talking about development kernels (2.1.xxx stopped somewhere in the 130's - that'd be more than 130 announcements).
it's completely ok to announce the first version of a new stable or development branch. it may then be ok to announce some more stable versions as they increase in stability. also announcing development kernels can IMHO be okay, if there is a specific new feature implemented people might really care about (like when ntfs support was added to the 2.1.xxx branch).
Slashdot Mirror
Some Norwegian guys == all of Europe
A press release on Wired == Big Media
You got this wrong. It's in big media all over Europe, but the web sites are mostly in Norway so far. I saw a lot of coverage by traditional media in Germany.
Actually many of the participating pages tell you to get Firefox, Opera, or a newer version of IE. This includes some commercial web sites.
You mean the same text that says in Chapter 7 first:
...
'A "reducing atmosphere" could have had carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen, ammonia, and nitrogen.'
and a few lines later:
'But a reducing atmosphere has neither oxygen nor carbon dioxide!'
Syntacic refutation is all which is needed her
It's his CD player. Rotel just plainly suxx. They are trying to change the musics "temperature" to make it sound better. And so everything sounds the same - Rotel.
It comes to me as no wonder that the author of your parent cannot discern MP3s from CDs on that setup.
Actually it is more like zoo-za ...
As somebody who learned Haskell first and fell in
/ curry/).
love with it from first view, I nevertheless find
myself rather using Common Lisp for rapid
prototyping. You can just program so much dirtier
(setf, print, etc.).
Also don't underestimate Prolog. You might want
to check out the Ciao Prolog system
(http://www.clip.dia.fi.upm.es/Software/Ciao/).
It is good for some surprises.
Finally Haskell is not the end of it all, too.
Take a look at Curry, a Haskell-like language
incorporating the functional AND the logic
programming paradigm
(http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~hanus
FYI: Python does not have a linked list type. It has a list type though which is implemented by resizing arrays.
If you want doubly linked lists search for "deque" in SIG archives at python.org
Actually these japanese guys were Taniyama und Shimura and the conjecture is called the - guess -
Taniyama-Shimura conjecture.
It is about elliptic curves and modular forms (or whatever that is in englisch).
Don't forget Haskell! A purely functional strongly typed language. Not neccessary what you would want to use for CGI - that's what I thought at first. But in reality it really works fine.
I second that. "ANSI Common Lisp" is a really
good book to learn LISP (especially macros).
But there is a bit too much propaganda for LISP
in some of the chapters. For example in the first
chapter:
'Programming is now undergoing a similar change.
The new medium is the "object-oriented dynamic
language" -- in a word, Lisp.'
But it is a good read nevertheless and LISP
is a good solution for a lot of programs that
have to be written quick. Although you can get
good performance if you know a bit how to tweak
it the code normally is a bit slow because you
just don't care in your design. But then that's
your problem.
As I have not seen anything about this here
;-)
I will post a short summary of
http://www.dfn.de/win/gwin/ueberblick/
"In Germany the so called B-WIN (broadband
science network) will be succeded by the
so called G-WIN (gigabit science network)
during spring 2000. The net offers rates in
multiples of 2.5 GBit/s (that is 2.5 for
the beginning, 5.0, 7.5, 10.0 and so on
later). The main reason for this is to make
the german research network i2-compliant."
The rest is just blab blab about how good
this is for Germany and how it enables the
German people to rule the world
Please moderate this down.
Shouldn't it be:
(equal (+ (clueless (sandal seeking) journalist) (* 2 (clueless analyst) (sco in game)) (trouble for (turbo linux)))
AFAIK factoring has not been proven
...
"hard" (as being np-complete or the like)
yet nor is it IMHO likely to be.
Regarding your question, I cannot say if there
are "quantum hard" problems that could be
used as a trapdoor or anything useful. But
there are hard problems even for quantum
computers. Hell, there are even UNcomputable
problems
Just as an (important?) annotation:
...
The text says something to the effect of
"Of course, tux is not missing in any bed!".
See how double negation works in German, too
Thanks for your "clarification". Unfortunately I have a hard time agreeing with most of what you have said. I will pick up some of the disturbing points and "clarify" them with my own opinion.
1) You say that there is no anonymity against governmential organisations in e.g. Germany. IMHO you miss that there is some odd concept called "Datenschutz" (engl.: "protection of data") which is very strong here in Germany. It is mainly about governmential organisations not being allowed to do ANYTHING with the data gathered about citizens but use them for those very strictly defined purposes they were collected for. AFAIK there is nothing comparable in e.g. the United States of America.
2) Another point troubling me is the one about this "Nazi-Bertelsmann". If what you say is right, you damn sure know a lot more about the history of Bertelsmann than I do. But the point is that it is "history". Nowadays Bertelsmann is not out to help the "Arian Race" empower itself on top of the world, but like A LOT of other big multinational media companies Bertelsmann is trying to control and squeeze-money-out-of-it as much of the market as possible.
I do not like the idea of censorshop in any way. I do my part by advising people on security and data protection issues and by discussing censorship problems and promoting anti-censorship loudly. But bringing the nazis and/or microsoft into every discussion about such matters is really getting me.
Fare you well, Peter
Just wait a moment ... 32-bit RSA is not much of a challenge. Has not been so for quite a long time.
32-bit means 10 decimal digits at the most. A good
factoring routine can factor a 10 digit product of two approximately 5 digit prime numbers in a quite
short time even on a single i386.
Of course I see the point of supposedly (but not
proven) non-polynomial growth of complexity while
increasing key sizes. I think you were refering
to the first break of a 128-bit RSA key...
At least for me, this is bullshit. Once a
pollow time I used to read newspaper for
about 90 minutes a day, watch an hour or two
of TV, read a magazine and maybe some pages
of a book. The only change now is, that I spent
all this time together on the net, reading news,
surfing entertaining sites, reading slashdot and maybe some online shakespeare (hey, I can even do that on my toilet - read othello there yesterday, just as I used to do with the books).
as written wrt 2.3.1 i think only announcements
should be made that feature a real news
element. but thats only my opinion, so why not
make a poll:
how would you like your kernels?
* i want it all
* no development kernels, please
* kernels -> slashbox
* let me filter them/new category
* only important ones
* medium with chili and sauce hollondaise
sorry for being offtopic - but i just have to say this:
this thread is one the best ones i've ever seen
on slashdot or anywhere else in the internet.
of course, not every comment is a pool of wisdom
and knowledge, but on the average this is just
what i imagine as an open discussion of a fairly
difficult topic.
a normal kernel announcement IMHO should
not appear on the frontpage. especially
not if we are talking about development kernels
(2.1.xxx stopped somewhere in the 130's - that'd
be more than 130 announcements).
it's completely ok to announce the first version
of a new stable or development branch. it may
then be ok to announce some more stable versions
as they increase in stability. also announcing
development kernels can IMHO be okay, if there
is a specific new feature implemented
people might really care about (like when ntfs
support was added to the 2.1.xxx branch).
just my 0.02 euros
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so if you come to greece you are as good as in serbia (no more satellites)...
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