Yeah but the UI on the t91mt sux ass (my opinion) and the muti touch is not responsive for simple shit like smooth scrolling.
That being said, the 499 iPad has only 16gb storage so that's kind of a bait and switch. At least for my needs, 32gb is probably the least I'd want. And the 3g probably can't be used for tethering of any kind.
Huh. That's pretty cool, but even so - 720p output via a doc connector still doesn't cut it in my book. If there is ever a doc conctr to hdmi that could be cool though.
Cons:
- No Flash
- No WebCam
- No Microphone
- No Multi-Tasking
- No HD Video (1024x768)
- No Front facing speakers
Pros:
- Great for watching Porn
- Will greatly enhance the experience of taking a dump
- Bright Screen, good viewing angle
- 140k apps already
- Seems very very fast and responsive
- Thin and light
- Unlike Kindle, no night light required
- Price (of base model)
- Battery life
yeah, using a Shuffle as an audio source for your home stereo is kind of lame... but it sure beats having to run back across campus to grab your laptop so that you can hook it up to your buddies stereo and play some of your music.
Also, the whole thing about not being able to hook up your shuffle to the car stereo kinda sux too.
just like the Wii didn't stop PS3 or Xbox360 sales.
huh? The Wii certainly has cut into PS3 and Xbox360 sales.
But to your larger point, I pretty much agree. I think the iPhone competes with the DS a little bit, but only on the fringes for buyers like me - older buyers who maybe would have bought a DS for long trips, but are fine with free iPhones casual games to kill some time now and then.
but the larger point still stands. The original poster is just plain wrong when he claims that Germans 'outperform' other countries - they simply do not. They are about average.
As I said in my first post 'Germans have made great contributions to science and technology.' Perhaps you didn't read that part because you felt the need to come up with a list of more German 'greats,' - which was one of the more pathetic things I have seen someone post on slashdot. You didn't even come up with a good list, and some of them are pretty debatable.
We could sit here all day and site this or that scientist/innovator from this or that country, but I guarantee you that if we did just that, even the most ardent German nationalist would ultimately be forced to admit that Germany is about average.
Ask yourself if you really want to join in with this German delusion of superiority. The facts just don't bare out the argument, and historically, the results have been tragic - perhaps for Germany more than anyone else (holocaust victims excluded).
And what of the original post that started this all off. Do you support that as well? Why single out Africans? How about native Americans, Mongolians, Kurds, etc etc? Different parts of the world developed at different rates. Civilizations, and their associated technological and scientific innovations have come and gone. Northern Europe (including Germany) was once a land of barbarians. When people from all parts of the world are given a chance to get a higher education and participate in the scientific process of discovery (such as in America, and to a lesser extent in Europe today), then we find that we are all about the same. Differences have more to do with the kind of institutional racism (and sexism) that original poster espouses.
Your list of German achievements is not really that impressive in the scope of history. Lets break it down:
The first car. I think a frenchman was actually the first, but the real innovation was Henry Ford's mass production assembly line, not the automobile itself.
Calculus. Leibniz and Newton are not co-inventors - not really anyway. Basically they both built on work done by others including al-Haythem and other decidedly non-German mathematicians. The difference is that Newton did something truly amazing (and innovative) with it.
Quantum physics. As you say 'developed part of the foundation.' Quantum theory developed gradually, with contributions of a lot of people from a lot of places. It was not like Einstein's theory of relativity, which was a real breakthrough (although it too relied on the field equations of Maxwell (an Englishman) and other past theories. Einstein was from Austria by the way.
So all your examples are sort of 'me too' or 'i helped out' innovations. You would be better off to look at the French (Curie, Pasteur, or even Descartes). Or the English (Darwin, Newton). Or the Italians (Galileo, Marconi, etc.). And I am just picking a few of the bigs from Europe (since I am not readily familiar with the history of science outside the western world - my bad).
And lets not forget the Americans. There is no ethnic identity associated with being American, but one could argue that is their strength - the mixing together of scientists who hail from all parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds and ways of thinking about life the universe and everything.
So to bring it down to your level, what have the Germans really innovated, uniquely and on their own? How to start (and loose) two world wars? How to best gas Jewish people?
But seriously, the Germans have made great contributions to science and technology. That can not be ignored. But not more than many other nations. They are about par for the course.
Step 1: Print out all 100 thousand docs and draw different little smiley faces on each of them. Step 2: scan all your docs back in as jpegs. Step 3: import all those jpegs into iPhoto and use "Faces" to magically organize them - just like on the television commercial.
OK. that is funny. Someone decided to mod me funny for saying that the parent should be modded funny. But just to clarify, it was the "weevil" which I found funny... and he is the only one in this thread that has not been modded funny. So now I suppose I am going to get modded offtopic... sorry.
Its not exactly like every other carrier on the planet. AT&T has an exclusive on the iPhone. They are milking that for what its worth (and I don't really blame them). With other phones, you can switch to a new carrier to get the latest greatest shiny new phone at a huge discount. Of course that huge discount won't be so huge if you factor in the cancellation fee on your original contract... but its better than nothing.
I think you are overreacting to the phrase 'battle-tested.' Its a commonly used phrase that does not mean specifically someone who has been in an actual war. It just means they have real world experience. We say things like, 'that teacher has been battle tested in the Public school system,' or 'that broker has been battle tested through good and bad markets.' Its a common American English usage.
As to the rest of your post, I think you are over reacting there too. It actually summarizes a very old debate. The original poster is NOT in fact the first person to make the statement, 'an American company errs on the side of individual freedom while a European company is more inclined to favor an approach that relies on systems' - it cuts to the very essence of the debate. Just google 'Fly-by-wire vs computer controlled debate'. You will find numerous references to the cultural differences that drive both philosophies - by member of the aviation industry on both sides of the Atlantic.
What is interesting is your comment that 'the answer is statistics' - both sides use statistics to support their argument.
I don't have a problem with what AT&T is doing. I get their logic. But for me personally, this is one more reason that I might just go ahead and try out the Pre. (the other reason is because it works with iTunes). I will miss my Apps, but at least my iPhone will effectively be an iTouch.
I guess AT&T has figured this in. The only reason to give a discount to upgraders would be to lock them in for another 2 years. I guess they figured that enough people will pay full price or stick it out until the end of their contract that they don't need to provide an incentive - not now anyway. They might be right... im not even sure what i will do myself yet (have not looked into what ATT cancellation fees will be, how long Sprint will try to lock me in, etc).
Anyone know if they make an ignition interlock like device that can prevent me from buying games on steam that I'll never play when I'm too drunk to know better?
Really? So I must have a defective unit then. How else could one explain my wife standing next to me, chatting away while I can't get a damn signal... and yes we are both on AT&T. Claiming that all phones are the same is just absurd. The fact is that some phones have better antennas than others.
I am sure that the iPhone is not the worst, but it is definitely not as good as at least a few blackberries and other brands you can use with AT&T.
So I still maintain that Apple should focus some attention on the phone itself. Apps are great. Location services are great. Multi-touch is great. Music and Video is great. But its called an iPHONE.
What would be awesome is if you could make reliable phone calls with it.....
Conversations on my iPhone are like doing verbal crossword puzzles. I am constantly filling in the blanks.
This is just about tying them up and strapping them down with endless motions and other legal hassles so that it gives any other lawyer thinking about taking on the RIAA (pro bono or not) a major reason to think about it twice. they don't even excpect to win these motions, its just about burying the other side in paper work.
720p is NOT hd.
You are wrong....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television#High-definition_display_resolutions
turns out it has a Mic so thats off the list of cons. ALSO I forgot to include AT&T as a major con - should have been first on the list
Yeah but the UI on the t91mt sux ass (my opinion) and the muti touch is not responsive for simple shit like smooth scrolling. That being said, the 499 iPad has only 16gb storage so that's kind of a bait and switch. At least for my needs, 32gb is probably the least I'd want. And the 3g probably can't be used for tethering of any kind.
Huh. That's pretty cool, but even so - 720p output via a doc connector still doesn't cut it in my book. If there is ever a doc conctr to hdmi that could be cool though.
Cons:
- No Flash
- No WebCam
- No Microphone
- No Multi-Tasking
- No HD Video (1024x768)
- No Front facing speakers
Pros:
- Great for watching Porn
- Will greatly enhance the experience of taking a dump
- Bright Screen, good viewing angle
- 140k apps already
- Seems very very fast and responsive
- Thin and light
- Unlike Kindle, no night light required
- Price (of base model)
- Battery life
yeah, using a Shuffle as an audio source for your home stereo is kind of lame... but it sure beats having to run back across campus to grab your laptop so that you can hook it up to your buddies stereo and play some of your music.
Also, the whole thing about not being able to hook up your shuffle to the car stereo kinda sux too.
just like the Wii didn't stop PS3 or Xbox360 sales.
huh? The Wii certainly has cut into PS3 and Xbox360 sales.
But to your larger point, I pretty much agree. I think the iPhone competes with the DS a little bit, but only on the fringes for buyers like me - older buyers who maybe would have bought a DS for long trips, but are fine with free iPhones casual games to kill some time now and then.
shit, i just modded you offtopic by mistake... meant to hit 'interesting.' So that means I have to reply in here just so it will undo my mod.
anyway, totally agree about the mini-display port.
but the larger point still stands. The original poster is just plain wrong when he claims that Germans 'outperform' other countries - they simply do not. They are about average.
As I said in my first post 'Germans have made great contributions to science and technology.' Perhaps you didn't read that part because you felt the need to come up with a list of more German 'greats,' - which was one of the more pathetic things I have seen someone post on slashdot. You didn't even come up with a good list, and some of them are pretty debatable.
We could sit here all day and site this or that scientist/innovator from this or that country, but I guarantee you that if we did just that, even the most ardent German nationalist would ultimately be forced to admit that Germany is about average.
Ask yourself if you really want to join in with this German delusion of superiority. The facts just don't bare out the argument, and historically, the results have been tragic - perhaps for Germany more than anyone else (holocaust victims excluded).
And what of the original post that started this all off. Do you support that as well? Why single out Africans? How about native Americans, Mongolians, Kurds, etc etc? Different parts of the world developed at different rates. Civilizations, and their associated technological and scientific innovations have come and gone. Northern Europe (including Germany) was once a land of barbarians. When people from all parts of the world are given a chance to get a higher education and participate in the scientific process of discovery (such as in America, and to a lesser extent in Europe today), then we find that we are all about the same. Differences have more to do with the kind of institutional racism (and sexism) that original poster espouses.
Your list of German achievements is not really that impressive in the scope of history. Lets break it down:
The first car. I think a frenchman was actually the first, but the real innovation was Henry Ford's mass production assembly line, not the automobile itself.
Calculus. Leibniz and Newton are not co-inventors - not really anyway. Basically they both built on work done by others including al-Haythem and other decidedly non-German mathematicians. The difference is that Newton did something truly amazing (and innovative) with it.
Quantum physics. As you say 'developed part of the foundation.' Quantum theory developed gradually, with contributions of a lot of people from a lot of places. It was not like Einstein's theory of relativity, which was a real breakthrough (although it too relied on the field equations of Maxwell (an Englishman) and other past theories. Einstein was from Austria by the way.
So all your examples are sort of 'me too' or 'i helped out' innovations. You would be better off to look at the French (Curie, Pasteur, or even Descartes). Or the English (Darwin, Newton). Or the Italians (Galileo, Marconi, etc.). And I am just picking a few of the bigs from Europe (since I am not readily familiar with the history of science outside the western world - my bad).
And lets not forget the Americans. There is no ethnic identity associated with being American, but one could argue that is their strength - the mixing together of scientists who hail from all parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds and ways of thinking about life the universe and everything.
So to bring it down to your level, what have the Germans really innovated, uniquely and on their own? How to start (and loose) two world wars? How to best gas Jewish people?
But seriously, the Germans have made great contributions to science and technology. That can not be ignored. But not more than many other nations. They are about par for the course.
'nough said.
Step 1: Print out all 100 thousand docs and draw different little smiley faces on each of them. Step 2: scan all your docs back in as jpegs. Step 3: import all those jpegs into iPhoto and use "Faces" to magically organize them - just like on the television commercial.
OK. that is funny. Someone decided to mod me funny for saying that the parent should be modded funny. But just to clarify, it was the "weevil" which I found funny... and he is the only one in this thread that has not been modded funny. So now I suppose I am going to get modded offtopic... sorry.
mod ^ funny, very funny
If you are not currently eligible for an upgrade but still want iPhone 3G S, we can offer you an early upgrade price of $399 (16 GB) and $499 (32 GB).
or just 'Hydraulic' - but i was to busy debating someone about the new iPhone vs Pre to do it right the first time, or the second ;)
Its not exactly like every other carrier on the planet. AT&T has an exclusive on the iPhone. They are milking that for what its worth (and I don't really blame them). With other phones, you can switch to a new carrier to get the latest greatest shiny new phone at a huge discount. Of course that huge discount won't be so huge if you factor in the cancellation fee on your original contract... but its better than nothing.
fair enough
Fly-by-wire vs HUMAN controlled debate
there, fixed that for myself
I think you are overreacting to the phrase 'battle-tested.' Its a commonly used phrase that does not mean specifically someone who has been in an actual war. It just means they have real world experience. We say things like, 'that teacher has been battle tested in the Public school system,' or 'that broker has been battle tested through good and bad markets.' Its a common American English usage.
As to the rest of your post, I think you are over reacting there too. It actually summarizes a very old debate. The original poster is NOT in fact the first person to make the statement, 'an American company errs on the side of individual freedom while a European company is more inclined to favor an approach that relies on systems' - it cuts to the very essence of the debate. Just google 'Fly-by-wire vs computer controlled debate'. You will find numerous references to the cultural differences that drive both philosophies - by member of the aviation industry on both sides of the Atlantic.
What is interesting is your comment that 'the answer is statistics' - both sides use statistics to support their argument.
I don't have a problem with what AT&T is doing. I get their logic. But for me personally, this is one more reason that I might just go ahead and try out the Pre. (the other reason is because it works with iTunes). I will miss my Apps, but at least my iPhone will effectively be an iTouch.
I guess AT&T has figured this in. The only reason to give a discount to upgraders would be to lock them in for another 2 years. I guess they figured that enough people will pay full price or stick it out until the end of their contract that they don't need to provide an incentive - not now anyway. They might be right... im not even sure what i will do myself yet (have not looked into what ATT cancellation fees will be, how long Sprint will try to lock me in, etc).
Anyone know if they make an ignition interlock like device that can prevent me from buying games on steam that I'll never play when I'm too drunk to know better?
Ask and you shall receive (sort of): http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10122946-233.html
Eh, all phones are like that.
Really? So I must have a defective unit then. How else could one explain my wife standing next to me, chatting away while I can't get a damn signal... and yes we are both on AT&T. Claiming that all phones are the same is just absurd. The fact is that some phones have better antennas than others.
I am sure that the iPhone is not the worst, but it is definitely not as good as at least a few blackberries and other brands you can use with AT&T.
So I still maintain that Apple should focus some attention on the phone itself. Apps are great. Location services are great. Multi-touch is great. Music and Video is great. But its called an iPHONE.
What would be awesome is if you could make reliable phone calls with it..... Conversations on my iPhone are like doing verbal crossword puzzles. I am constantly filling in the blanks.
This is just about tying them up and strapping them down with endless motions and other legal hassles so that it gives any other lawyer thinking about taking on the RIAA (pro bono or not) a major reason to think about it twice. they don't even excpect to win these motions, its just about burying the other side in paper work.