[...] this is crap. [...] There's a pretty strong case that such a law would violate the First Amendment, kids.
The first What ?
This legsilation is supposed to apply to people living or doing business in Europe. Rest assured we make sure these laws don't violate any of our constitutions.
The EU accord basically makes it illegal for me to sell somebody else a mailing list I may have built
If you work or live in Europe, and if this sale is against European laws, that's exactly the point. Yep. We just outlawed your shady business. One more spammer to rot in jail.
I think our current speech problems have to do with speech about businesses and IP, something which has not been given too much support in the past
The issue here at hand is that critizing $cientology by publishing their "secrets" is clearly and obviously political speech. The Church of $cientology (spit) for years now abuses laws designed for "business speech" to suppress and harass its critics.
And apparently the US political and legal system is unable to correct them.
Oracle is WAY too expensive and over used [...] I've seen systems [...] in Oracle on NT with license costs of 8-9$K... this is COMPLETELY silly
Gosh. What a silly remark. Thats just peanuts. Real Interesting Oracle Databases (TM) have license costs of 6 or 7 figures US$.
Oracle on NT is a joke in and by itself... if your project is little enough to run on NT, it doesn't need something like Oracle anyway.
So where does Oracle shine ?
Sacalability. 4- 8- 16-way high horsepower servers with terabytes of data.
Distributed databases
High Avalability setups
featues and tuneability
But, having said that, there are enough applications out there in the wild that are so horrendously bad that they suck even with the most advanced database under them. Cisco Secure comes to mind....
Can someone explain to me how President of Nintendo=Ruthless Communist Dictator. Maybe I missed something in the interview.
Glad to be of service. He's wrong.
Now we could leave it at that, but I'll add some explanation:
Fidel, essentially, is a man of many virtues, who fell - to some degree - prey to his own power. He has a remarkable record - for a country
comparable to his, his people have excellent public education and an excellent health system.
Cuba excells about any economically comparable country in these and a few other parameters.
Also, it is noted, he is a man of great personal integrity, who has not enriched himself, nor installed his own clique of parasites in the country. OTOH, we all know he has some kind of absolute power, and he made whatever compromises are necessary to get and keep it, including putting his opponents in prison or to the wall. And of course, this absolute power today hinders progress of his country certainly as much as the undeclared American war on him does.
But, go to cuba, and listen to the people. You will find them bitching and complaining about the goverenment and the system and whatever all the time. But at the same time they just love Fidel. Listen and understand.
Now lets contrast that to the Nintendo Chairman. He's a very rich guy, who runs a megacorp for a gazillion of years. In his time, his company has perfected the selling of technologically mediocre junk to consumers at inflated prices. At the same time, he cultivated the devloper relation to independant software houses in a way soviet gulag prisons are run. Among game developers, working for or with microsoft is seen like a fresh breeze of fairness, partneship, openness and understanding compared to the style Nintendo has championed.
In doing all that, he earned tons of money for his shareholders and himself. His contribution to the public good can be summed up with 'Mario'.
So now you know why you prefer the one over the other.
you accidentally found an article written by an obscure and unknown guy named Robin Miller ??? Please, gimme a break!. Next article is probably referring us to the private weblog of someone equally unknown, whose name is, say, Rob Malda ??
Open Source Author sees someone ist TMing his name. He contacts them.
He gets a letter from their lawyer essentially saying 'lets just get along, nobody gets confused, no need for trouble'.
IMO this constitutes a decent proposal of good net.neighbourship. But our OS author now sends a lawyer letter to them getting nasty.
Why ? Why didn't he simply say, "ok, fine proposal, lets make it a contract" ???
Hello ! Good Morning! Would somebody please wake up ?
This is the very Idea of Google. They rank the search results by rate of click throughs from previous searches. This is what makes Google so much better than every other engine. They've been doing this from the beginning!
He has the same basic philosophy as Microsoft (take over everything and make it fit with your agenda), and will accept nothing but complete and total compliance with what he feels is right. He has no concept of middle ground. Everything is not going to owned by MS and closed source, but everything will not be "Free" either
This is exactly the way it is supposed to be. RMS is, by every account, the visionary who defines the goals, and not the leader who weighs alternatives.
Visions don't make compromises. Their main property is 'beeing clear'.
But poeple do. It's your job to decide "well, RMS say this is wrong - and rightly so - but for this or that reason we have to balance this and make a compromise here."
Fewf, I think we can all relax. It's obviously a hoax - the words don't make any sense. I have a feeling they just made a bunch of words up and drew a funny looking picture.
You are an ignorant d#+*&#%$.
The text is perfectly legible - you are just too dense to recognisze that there are languages in the world you don't understand.
This man clearly has taken the time to learn English - could you have written that article in Finish? Or indeed any other language other than English?
With all due respect, Monty's article came across as advanced whining. This is no language issue.
And before you ask me the same stupid question, yes, I could. I speak my native German quite well, and I also could try translating my answer to Latin or Classical Greek. So go and find some other excuse.
Well, if you were running Oracle, once the sucker is running it never comes down -- not for backup, schema changes, moving tables to different disks -- nothing. It takes some expertise, to be sure, but it all makes sense.
Sorry ? Some time ago I worked for a company of ~ 1000 employees, and about every secretary used to know what the Oracle Listener was, and what it was supposed to do. Because frequently and without any due excuses, it didn't.
Yeah, of course, the DBMS stayed up. Great, just nobody could use it.
An 'Abmahnung' is basically a formalized 'cease and desist' lettter from a lawyer which includes a binding declaration to be signed by you and a bill from the opposing lawyer. This is only permissible in certain well defined cases. (Trademark law beeing full of them:-( ).
The basic Idea is that courts don't have t get involved into this at all. You are not forced to accept any of this - but if you don't you will find yourself automatically in court.
This is a quite usefull tool for quarrels between generally comparable businesses. The bad thing is that these lawyer bills are calculated by the court based on the assumed value of the debate. No when you apply these rules to private citizens, the real problem here suddenly is not even the issue at stake, but the lawyer cost, and there are some lawyers in Germany who discovered the Web as a way to find easy prey for such tactics.
The coffee one gets out of a home coffee machine is about 140 degrees F.
Saying something like that in a business ad in Germany will guaranteed get you an 'Abmahnung', btw. Using non-metric data in an ad or product catalog is a big NO-NO and will get you sued for unfair competition. (something you americans should copy occasionally - you have signed all these international treaties about that, after all. And it might help you avoid loosing space probes every now and then .
Another thing - the McDonald Coffee lady could have sued in Germany as well. But even if she proved gross negligence to McD, she could have expected her (actual, proven) medical costs plus a few thousand dollars compensation for the hurt she suffered. Since you don't get rich this way, no slimy lawyers are involved and this is much less common here around (McD and her health insurance would probably have settled this amicably upfront).
The keywords here are no punitive damages and lawyer fees are heavily regulated and contracts based on success are not permitted
Even Anheiser-Busch has to refrain from selling a beer called Budweiser in some markets, because that name was already taken.
By a company selling a similar type of beer.
Au contraire - by the friendly people and breweries of the Czech city Budweisz, who understandably object to a US company selling some obscure horsepiss under their well known name.
Let's reverse engineer and open source their little "Standard log-on procedures/protocols for banks"....
Most likely it's ultra boring anyway, technically simple beyond belief, its Big Iron heritage probably showing all over the place, and its
only marketable asset probably is that it has been certified by gazillions of regulatory Agencys and five hoards of armchair-farting buerocrats that it is excatly that boring.
*ahem* Sorry. Um, how can I say this? You're wrong.:-)
Indeed, he is wrong. Ipf is IPFILTER. This is an optional facility (and not the one you are supposed to use anyway)
The FreeBSD facility to do all that fancy stuff is ipfw (IPFIREWALL). Ipfw support also has to be compiled into the kernel. Alternatively you could try to load the repective kernel module.
Man ipfw for more information
(Incidentally, I would expect your device not configured message to be caused by not having Berkeley Packet Filter compiled into your kernel)
sorry, wrong. bpf is not related to any of these, and supposed to give you raw access to network data. br> f.
Germany contribute to wine?? You have your facts mixed up my friend! It's the french that are into wine, the Germans are famous for their Beer
There's excellent (espially white) wine grown in a number of areas in Germany, especially in the south and west. Germany considers itself a traditional wine country, the (now largely defunct) former second verse of the national anthem even brings up German wine a a national symbol and there's a rich and longlasting wine tradition.
The French are just better at marketing:-) (and they make the better red wines)
I doubt that. He would have to stop selling in Europe alltogether, since he probably stood no chance to forbid other Europeans selling it to Germany. The only (useless IMHO) thing they could do is stopping to produce German Language versions. I'd applaud such a move:-)
He'd be incredibly stupid to do it,
Certainly. 80 Millions of people in Germany, some 350 Millions in Europe alltogether. Lost Customers.
If you had a ligitmate reason to wire-tap say, a kiddie porn dealer, would you as an FBI agent want to have to deal with international law in a matter that would normally be covered under simple interstate issues?
Hogwash.
you bring up kiddie porn in a political debate. That suggests that you ain't up to no good
Verio remains a US company. US subsidiaries of foreign companies of course operate under US law. No international law involved
This whole thing stinks. I think they do something illegal and are afraid the Japanese won't comply the way the current Verio owner does.
Slashdot Mirror
This legsilation is supposed to apply to people living or doing business in Europe. Rest assured we make sure these laws don't violate any of our constitutions.
If you work or live in Europe, and if this sale is against European laws, that's exactly the point. Yep. We just outlawed your shady business. One more spammer to rot in jail.
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They don't accept anyone not from their precious subcontinent for beta testing. I feel suitably offended
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money
degrees
:-)
use them
OTOH your article reads more like "how can I know I found them ?" No answer here - if you don't know that for yourself, find someone who does
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The Bundeswehr is aware of it and currently tries to get them stop using that domain.
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> 98% of SuSE is not german.
Check your facts. The overwhelming majority
of Suse employees are living and working in
Germany and have German citizenship.
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And apparently the US political and legal system is unable to correct them.
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Oracle on NT is a joke in and by itself
So where does Oracle shine ?
Sacalability. 4- 8- 16-way high horsepower servers with terabytes of data.
Distributed databases
High Avalability setups
featues and tuneability
But, having said that, there are enough applications out there in the wild that are so horrendously bad that they suck even with the most advanced database under them. Cisco Secure comes to mind....
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Now we could leave it at that, but I'll add some explanation:
Fidel, essentially, is a man of many virtues, who fell - to some degree - prey to his own power. He has a remarkable record - for a country comparable to his, his people have excellent public education and an excellent health system. Cuba excells about any economically comparable country in these and a few other parameters.
Also, it is noted, he is a man of great personal integrity, who has not enriched himself, nor installed his own clique of parasites in the country. OTOH, we all know he has some kind of absolute power, and he made whatever compromises are necessary to get and keep it, including putting his opponents in prison or to the wall. And of course, this absolute power today hinders progress of his country certainly as much as the undeclared American war on him does.
But, go to cuba, and listen to the people. You will find them bitching and complaining about the goverenment and the system and whatever all the time. But at the same time they just love Fidel. Listen and understand.
Now lets contrast that to the Nintendo Chairman. He's a very rich guy, who runs a megacorp for a gazillion of years. In his time, his company has perfected the selling of technologically mediocre junk to consumers at inflated prices. At the same time, he cultivated the devloper relation to independant software houses in a way soviet gulag prisons are run. Among game developers, working for or with microsoft is seen like a fresh breeze of fairness, partneship, openness and understanding compared to the style Nintendo has championed.
In doing all that, he earned tons of money for his shareholders and himself. His contribution to the public good can be summed up with 'Mario'.
So now you know why you prefer the one over the other.
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Oh, well.
:-)
you accidentally found an article written by an obscure and unknown guy named Robin Miller ??? Please, gimme a break!. Next article is probably referring us to the private weblog of someone equally unknown, whose name is, say, Rob Malda ??
Oh... Uhm... Sorry... wer are there already
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In the end, I think, the only thing he can do is go to court.
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Let me summarize it:
Open Source Author sees someone ist TMing his name. He contacts them.
He gets a letter from their lawyer essentially saying 'lets just get along, nobody gets confused, no need for trouble'.
IMO this constitutes a decent proposal of good net.neighbourship. But our OS author now sends a lawyer letter to them getting nasty.
Why ? Why didn't he simply say, "ok, fine proposal, lets make it a contract" ???
IMO this smacks of hypocrisy.
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Hello ! Good Morning! Would somebody please wake up ?
This is the very Idea of Google. They rank the search results by rate of click throughs from previous searches. This is what makes Google so much better than every other engine. They've been doing this from the beginning!
Somebody should start doing his homework!
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Whow. What a great exchange! RMS gets his point across pretty clear.
And thanks to Jorrit for publishing that.
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Visions don't make compromises. Their main property is 'beeing clear'.
But poeple do. It's your job to decide "well, RMS say this is wrong - and rightly so - but for this or that reason we have to balance this and make a compromise here."
Now thou shalt go and sin no more.
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The text is perfectly legible - you are just too dense to recognisze that there are languages in the world you don't understand.
FWIW, the ad text is German.
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And before you ask me the same stupid question, yes, I could. I speak my native German quite well, and I also could try translating my answer to Latin or Classical Greek. So go and find some other excuse.
f.
Yeah, of course, the DBMS stayed up. Great, just nobody could use it.
f.
An 'Abmahnung' is basically a formalized 'cease and desist' lettter from a lawyer which includes a binding declaration to be signed by you and a bill from the opposing lawyer. This is only permissible in certain well defined cases. (Trademark law beeing full of them
The basic Idea is that courts don't have t get involved into this at all. You are not forced to accept any of this - but if you don't you will find yourself automatically in court.
This is a quite usefull tool for quarrels between generally comparable businesses. The bad thing is that these lawyer bills are calculated by the court based on the assumed value of the debate. No when you apply these rules to private citizens, the real problem here suddenly is not even the issue at stake, but the lawyer cost, and there are some lawyers in Germany who discovered the Web as a way to find easy prey for such tactics. Saying something like that in a business ad in Germany will guaranteed get you an 'Abmahnung', btw. Using non-metric data in an ad or product catalog is a big NO-NO and will get you sued for unfair competition. (something you americans should copy occasionally - you have signed all these international treaties about that, after all. And it might help you avoid loosing space probes every now and then .
Another thing - the McDonald Coffee lady could have sued in Germany as well. But even if she proved gross negligence to McD, she could have expected her (actual, proven) medical costs plus a few thousand dollars compensation for the hurt she suffered. Since you don't get rich this way, no slimy lawyers are involved and this is much less common here around (McD and her health insurance would probably have settled this amicably upfront).
The keywords here are no punitive damages and lawyer fees are heavily regulated and contracts based on success are not permitted
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The FreeBSD facility to do all that fancy stuff is ipfw (IPFIREWALL). Ipfw support also has to be compiled into the kernel. Alternatively you could try to load the repective kernel module.
Man ipfw for more information sorry, wrong. bpf is not related to any of these, and supposed to give you raw access to network data.
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The French are just better at marketing
(and they make the better red wines)
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Lost Customers.
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you bring up kiddie porn in a political debate. That suggests that you ain't up to no good
Verio remains a US company. US subsidiaries of foreign companies of course operate under US law. No international law involved
This whole thing stinks. I think they do something illegal and are afraid the Japanese won't comply the way the current Verio owner does.
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