Here you go again, Moryath! Not only you've picked the verses out of context, you've even omitted parts of the verses. I don't know what your intention is to use the world 'Allah' instead of using 'God', since you've translated the verses to English anyway and kept that intact. Is this to add a bit more sensation so that every reader who may believe in a Creator may think that Islam implies somebody else? Or is it the same type of propaganda some people are using when they emphasize on the "Hussein" part of Barak Obama?
[Verse 2:191] And slay them wherever you may come upon them, and drive them away from wherever they drove you away - for oppression is even worse than killing. [168] And fight not against them near the Inviolable House of Worship unless they fight against you there first; [169] but if they fight against you, slay them: such shall be the recompense of those who deny the truth.
Here's some explanation: In view of the preceding ordinance, the injunction "slay them wherever you may come upon them" is valid only within the context of hostilities already in progress (Razi), on the understanding that "those who wage war against you" are the aggressors or oppressors (a war of liberation being a war "in God's cause"). The translation, in this context, of fitnah as "oppression" is justified by the application of this term to any affliction which may cause man to go astray and to lose his faith in spiritual values (cf. Lisan al-Arab).(Quran Ref: 2:190 )
I have a friend, who is quite old, came from the Middle East, and is a Jew. According to her, Muslims and Jews used to live peacefully in the Middle East, and this animosity is relatively new and mostly political.
I don't care what most of the people in this country say about Islam or Quran. Most of them have never read a single verse, or only have read excerpts from the summaries like the one you've made; and in many cases they're very happy that they're free from any obligation or responsibilities imposed by the new-found root of all evil in the current world---religion. Whether you believe in (one) Creator or not, please critically ask yourself next time if you're doing a good application of your knowledge by posting something even, factual, and unbiased, or it is driven solely by whatever subconscious agenda you may have.
Dear Moryath:
Please calm yourself down before you place your statements. You seem to be much more knowledgeable than most of the non-muslims (and heck, many muslims) that I know of. However, I think you might had a few hypotheses about Islam first and then searched for shallow evidences in various sources, possibly not authentic at all.
Allah is simply the Arabic for God.
I don't have the time to reply to every single allegation you made. In Quran 2:256, the intended meaning was not to form moral alliances with the people of other religions, since they might be wrong. For an example, you can be my very good friend except that I shouldn't give you company when you drink alcohol. Remember, muslims are allowed to marry Christians or Jews. For Quran 9:5, my advice is that please read the entire section and don't hand-pick a verse out of context. Also, unfortunately you have to know the behind-the-scene history of each 'sura' to understand the instructions completely.
You're right. Many hot-headed muslims took Quranic verses out of context and did very despicable things. After all, it's the muslims who killed the grand sons of Muhammad, not people of other religion. Terrorists also interpret Quran their own way.
I'm very saddened by the way you criticized Muhammad.
My advice to you is: please try to get information from a few more sources if you have time. You won't have to believe anything, and it won't hurt to get a few more perspectives. And please, don't spread hatred.
Possibly to your disbelief, I'm a scientist. The best parts of Quran are where I see the phrases that inspire us to think about God's creation---when it says: "certainly there are elements for people who ponder."
You might also want to take a look at the following verses:
The earth is egg-shaped (39:5, 79:30).
The earth is not standing still; it moves constantly (27:88).
The sun is a source of light, while the moon reflects it (10:5, 25:61, 71:16).
The proportion of oxygen diminishes as we climb towards the sky (6:125).
The "Big Bang Theory" (21:30).
The "Expansion of the Universe Theory" (51:47).
The universe started out as a gaseous mass (41:11).
Evolution is a fact; within a given species, evolution is a divinely guided process (21:30, 24:45, 32:7-9, 18:37, 15:28-29, 7:11, 71:13-14).
The man's seminal fluid decides the baby's gender (53:45-46).
[Verse 2:191] And slay them wherever you may come upon them, and drive them away from wherever they drove you away - for oppression is even worse than killing. [168] And fight not against them near the Inviolable House of Worship unless they fight against you there first; [169] but if they fight against you, slay them: such shall be the recompense of those who deny the truth. Here's some explanation: In view of the preceding ordinance, the injunction "slay them wherever you may come upon them" is valid only within the context of hostilities already in progress (Razi), on the understanding that "those who wage war against you" are the aggressors or oppressors (a war of liberation being a war "in God's cause"). The translation, in this context, of fitnah as "oppression" is justified by the application of this term to any affliction which may cause man to go astray and to lose his faith in spiritual values (cf. Lisan al-Arab).(Quran Ref: 2:190 )
I have a friend, who is quite old, came from the Middle East, and is a Jew. According to her, Muslims and Jews used to live peacefully in the Middle East, and this animosity is relatively new and mostly political.
I don't care what most of the people in this country say about Islam or Quran. Most of them have never read a single verse, or only have read excerpts from the summaries like the one you've made; and in many cases they're very happy that they're free from any obligation or responsibilities imposed by the new-found root of all evil in the current world---religion. Whether you believe in (one) Creator or not, please critically ask yourself next time if you're doing a good application of your knowledge by posting something even, factual, and unbiased, or it is driven solely by whatever subconscious agenda you may have.
Allah is simply the Arabic for God.
I don't have the time to reply to every single allegation you made. In Quran 2:256, the intended meaning was not to form moral alliances with the people of other religions, since they might be wrong. For an example, you can be my very good friend except that I shouldn't give you company when you drink alcohol. Remember, muslims are allowed to marry Christians or Jews. For Quran 9:5, my advice is that please read the entire section and don't hand-pick a verse out of context. Also, unfortunately you have to know the behind-the-scene history of each 'sura' to understand the instructions completely.
You're right. Many hot-headed muslims took Quranic verses out of context and did very despicable things. After all, it's the muslims who killed the grand sons of Muhammad, not people of other religion. Terrorists also interpret Quran their own way. I'm very saddened by the way you criticized Muhammad.
My advice to you is: please try to get information from a few more sources if you have time. You won't have to believe anything, and it won't hurt to get a few more perspectives. And please, don't spread hatred.
Possibly to your disbelief, I'm a scientist. The best parts of Quran are where I see the phrases that inspire us to think about God's creation---when it says: "certainly there are elements for people who ponder."
You might also want to take a look at the following verses:
- The earth is egg-shaped (39:5, 79:30).
- The earth is not standing still; it moves constantly (27:88).
- The sun is a source of light, while the moon reflects it (10:5, 25:61, 71:16).
- The proportion of oxygen diminishes as we climb towards the sky (6:125).
- The "Big Bang Theory" (21:30).
- The "Expansion of the Universe Theory" (51:47).
- The universe started out as a gaseous mass (41:11).
- Evolution is a fact; within a given species, evolution is a divinely guided process (21:30, 24:45, 32:7-9, 18:37, 15:28-29, 7:11, 71:13-14).
- The man's seminal fluid decides the baby's gender (53:45-46).
Thank you, aMuslim