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  1. Re:They're not that stupid on US Government Caught Manipulating Wikipedia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Al Qaeda did have connections to Iraq, though not strong. The invasion of Iraq was never sold as being because Iraq and Al Qaeda had strong connections, despite what the history revisionists say. At the time of the invasion, Most Dems, Reps, and governments of the world believed Iraq had WMDs. Even Iraqi leadership believed it. Saddam Hussein was perpetrating a fraud on everyone because the belief of him having WMD was almost as good as actually having them.

    Let's take this a piece at a time.

    Yes, everyone....even Valeria Plame....even the French... thought Iraq had WMD. Hint: this is why they wanted the weapon inspectors to go into Iraq. And, unlike what the revisionists want us to believe, the weapon inspectors DID go into Iraq.

    That doesn't discount the fact that Wilson's finding showed that Iraq COULDN'T and DIDN'T buy yellowcake. That also doesn't discount the fact that someone in the administration went after Wilson's wife as payback. (And let's face facts, that's about the lowest thing any President's admistration has ever done. Gone after someone's wife to get at someone...AND put the the lives of patriots at risk who were working in field ... no, not Plame, but all of the other people who used covers from the same companies.)

    Alas, only a single charge of perjury was found on that. Damn, almost makes one wish we had independent investigators again.

    There were some obvious mistakes made during the invasion and occupation. Most of those have been corrected. The fact remains that no war of this caliber has had as few American casualties as this one. No war plan is perfect but this one is far from a grossly incompetent mismanagement.

    That's true, we've never lost few casualities before for a war of this size.

    Alas, that's not the war that was sold to us. That war would cost a mere $50 million and take under a week. The casualities we've had compared to a war of that size are astronomical (but I digress).

    I hate to break it to you, but the War on Terror is in more places than Afghanistan. I have 2 cousins that just got back from the African "front" in the War on Terror. If you want to read about successes in the War on Terror, check out what we're doing in Africa.

    I'd hate to break it to you, but to any American (except those in Africa and other places) the War on Terror is Iraq. Look at the amounts we're spending in Iraq. Look at the numbers of troops in Iraq. Look at the number of causalities in Iraq. The less than 1% in Africa aren't the War on Terror. (I agree that progress is being made in places....I wish we'd spent more time/money/people/energy on those places than...but I'm not CIC).

    There's an irrational hate of Bush and Cheney, much like the hatred of some Republicans during the Clinton years. The fact remains that there is very little evidence of an intentional fraud to be able to invade Iraq for nefarious reasons. Take off the tinfoil hat and realize that this country is led by people that make mistakes but are working to keep us safe and make us great.

    I listened to a great number of people who had the irrational hatred of Clinton. All of them argued that it wasn't irrational...that they had specific reasons not to like the guy. (To paraphrase a Representative, who was on the floor of Congress at the time: that's not my President)

    Shrug. People want to hate Clinton but demand me to respect Bush. Bite me. There are reasons (beyond what's posted here) to dislike Bush and the Republicans under Clinton made it socially acceptable.

    The best thing to do at this point is vote for who you think will be the best successor in 2008.

    Finally something I can agree with.

  2. Why do I get the feeling on FEMA Sorry for Faking News Briefing · · Score: 1

    (with your Komrade Klinton remark) that you voted for Bush. (Like it or not, if this had happened on Clinton's watch, it would've hit the fan)