The system became useless and was abandoned in favor of an emergency warning app that everyone is supposed to download and install - which, of course, no one has.
The so-called "fake news" controversy doesn't hold a candle to the very real problem with "fake alerts". One day an honest-to-God emergency will really happen, and no one will be listening.
Ach. Did you folks get the sexual assault notices? I kept them off my phone, but still get email. Most are weird, and tend to go like this:
An unknown person was assaulted by an unknown person at an unknown time in an unknown location. The report was made by an unknown person. It was not known if the assailant knew the victim.
And they wonder why no one wants to get those required by law to make alerts.
Both sides have done this. The 'rules' are put in and out of place to allow or block votes as people see fit.
Why is every mention of something a Republican does countered with blaming Democrats for the same thing? That isn't an argument, despite what you thing. You are excusing the Democrats. while trying to blame them. And in the end, you just stood up for Democrats abusing Republicans, and said it was okay.
My point still stands.
I think this is where you bring up something about Hillary Clinton.
I like the way they blame the unknown entity "hackers" rather than accept responsibility for their own lax security. First and foremost it is their fault for running an open system. The hackers should be sought but first and foremost the problem is lax security.
I mostly agree, but not totally.
The sirens should not be on the internetz period. Nothing life critical should be on the internet. But The people who made these decisions are using the same level of stupid as the businesses who are stuck on Internet Exploder 6 because they designed their business around it.
But having lax security is not a a reason to exploit it. Just because I don't have armed guards with authorized lethal force around the perimeter of my yard, and razor wire to keep out the riffraff, that doesn't mean it's my fault if someone robs me. They are still at fault.
Every time one of these things happens slashdot blames the sys admins.
I don't know about that. I know myself, I blame the dumfuks who decided to put life-critical systems on the internet. That should not even be legal.
And those sirens are life critical. Texas is hit by a fair number of tornadoes, and the public siren is the last leg of "get your ass under cover. A lot of people have no doubt been saved by the sirens.
So if someone wanted to start invoking "boy who cried wolf" syndrome, just start sending a lot of commands for false alarms.
Sysadmins just do what they are told to do, the powers that be make the decisions to put life-critical devices on an inherently open communications system,
What attack? That was normal operation of the sirens.
An attack would have been if he cranked up the volume and blew them out. Or maybe planting malware for more nefarious purposes.
If you leave your door unlocked and somebody comes by and opens then closes it every few minutes is that an attack?
There is no such thing as perfect security. Given enough time any system can be broken.
And when you have a system that the whole world can hack it, all you do is make it certain that it will be hacked.
A system where people need actual physical access isn't perfectly secure, but it is hella unlikely that a Nigerian Prince is going to have direct access to it.
I mean it isn't like we didn't have these things before the internet. Wonder how humans survived?
A door being unlocked does not give one the right to steal what's behind it
That is correct. However, when the entire world has immediate access to that door, then not securing the door makes you an incompetent idiot who has no business holding any job related to security.
Let's go, mod AC up.
Especially in a country like the US, where we have the dual issues of being interventionist, and being top of the worldwide heap for a while, we make a lot of enemies (don't feel smug about it, everyone gets a turn) Just being at the top of the heap means there are groups who want to tear you down.
And the internet invites them into our living rooms, and our warning sirens. And a lot of other things as well. We've put things on the IoT that never should have been there. IoT is a pretty good illustration of unfixable stupid.
To make it worse, now mostly mundane stuff has become an "ALERT!!!!!111!!!", which contributes to giving everyone alert fatigue, and when something real happens, they don't even know if they are supposed to care?
Exactly this. We've gotten so many alerts that we gave up and turned them off. And most were stupid. Most are too far away, most are false alarms, like when a woman thought her kid was abducted by her Ex, and it turned out the little girl had gotten in the car, took it out of gear, and the car drifted down the driveway and into the nearby woods. Even so, that alert was like 200 miles away.
We had one right in our neighborhood when a little boy was a couple minutes late walking home from school. Full alert with the dogs and police and rescue groups activated. Turned out the reason he was 5 minutes late was he stopped to talk to a friend. So 10 minutes after the alert, it was called off. And my alerts were all turned off.
Society might be happy to go insane, And turn it up to 11 on everything, but I don't feel like participating.
If no one knows what to do when they hear the siren, then there's really not much point in having the siren in the first place.
1.2 million people live in Dallas. 4400 confused people, or about a third of 1%, dialed 911. You can't extrapolate from that to say that "no one" knew what to do.
For the clueless, here is what you should do when you hear a siren:
1 Check facebook
2. Update your status
3. have all your friends send you thoughts and prayers
You know Russia has subs parked on every undersea communication link that the US has right? The first blow in any war will be the US having its metaphorical eyes, ears, and tongue hacked off.
Hence the interest in satellite-to-satellite communications.
But in humans propensity for insanity, we'll no doubt send up some satellite killers, and the resulting rubble will make our first war in space be our last for at least a hundred years, depending on the orbital decay And that's we as in all of us.
And for Ivan bragging about his subs, why would you cut off one of the best weapons you have? Cutting off the US would hurt you and your tactics more than ours. How you going to alter the vote counts then?
Why is this guy and others like him so intent on categorizing people, personalities, and traits? Only egotistical people do that so they can feel superior to others.
Satire or blindness? You decide.
There are two kinds of people.
Those who separate everything into two types, and those who don't.
Btw. Hackers aka. social degenerates / retards / ++aspergers / youfuckingnameit are also known by their monodiet consisting of pizza (Margherita) and Coca Cola.
And all managers are sexual freaks with psycopatic tendencies.
And all moderators are suffering from low self-esteem.
Why on earth should we be warned to not keep important information on our computers, and t protect them from hacking when these places give everyone's information away all at one time?
But fear not good citizens! We'll implement a system that is a real pain in the ass (for you) and give ourselves a internet security award, some promotions and a big pat on the back - until we give your data away the next time as well. That is all - back to what you were doing before we were inconvenienced.
"Workbar attracts the coveted millennial generation, "
Wait, since when were millennials coveted as employees? Given their stereotyped work ethic, I'd think it would be the opposite.
And yet again, the Gen X'res are forgotten and passed over again by the media.
Holy hell This!
Millennials have not been too successful at working out in the workplace, and it isn't because of the surroundings. It's because their parents and schools have screwed them up so badly.
And "them" is in general. Two of the best employees I've ever worked with were young women millennials. But outside those two, it went downhil really fast. The only saving grace was the problem ones quit quickly and moved back in with their parents or grandparents.
Will some domesticated dogs go feral and become dogwolves?
They can if they haven't been too messed with by breeding. A Pug or Bulldog is going to have problems. From what I understand, natural breeding of feral dogs tends to bring them back in a few generations to the archetype known as the long-term pariah morphotype. This resembles the original dog breeds which are a subspecies of wolves, so they aren't likely to "re-wolf".
The Dingo is a pretty good example of this.
The long-term pariah morphotype of dogs is probably good to keep around, because we have a tendency to really screw up breeds, and they can be relied upon for their hybrid vigor.
Thinking the latest is the greatest is incredibly naive. The worst possible assumption. Windows 10 taught us that, surely.
Yes, I heard the same arguments from people when we abandoned NTSC for digital. People that don't even understand things like riding and the variable bandwidth (like the red channel had less then 1MHz bandwidth.
My favorite part of my naivety is when people tell me I don't see what I can plainly see.
Slashdot Mirror
Are you insinuating that I'm a hacker?
No, just you're kinda gruff this morning. It's how I sound before my coffee.
Ach. Did you folks get the sexual assault notices? I kept them off my phone, but still get email. Most are weird, and tend to go like this: An unknown person was assaulted by an unknown person at an unknown time in an unknown location. The report was made by an unknown person. It was not known if the assailant knew the victim.
And they wonder why no one wants to get those required by law to make alerts.
Both sides have done this. The 'rules' are put in and out of place to allow or block votes as people see fit.
Why is every mention of something a Republican does countered with blaming Democrats for the same thing? That isn't an argument, despite what you thing. You are excusing the Democrats. while trying to blame them. And in the end, you just stood up for Democrats abusing Republicans, and said it was okay.
My point still stands.
I think this is where you bring up something about Hillary Clinton.
Probably because we mostly all preach it here to ourselves. Forgot to tell everyone else
They don't listen. I got tired of warning people. Now I just sit back and go "Poor Lambs, it's so hard some times, and those people are so mean!"
Except in here where I vent about it.
I wonder what would happen if a disaster happened right at noon?
I like the way they blame the unknown entity "hackers" rather than accept responsibility for their own lax security. First and foremost it is their fault for running an open system. The hackers should be sought but first and foremost the problem is lax security.
I mostly agree, but not totally.
The sirens should not be on the internetz period. Nothing life critical should be on the internet. But The people who made these decisions are using the same level of stupid as the businesses who are stuck on Internet Exploder 6 because they designed their business around it.
But having lax security is not a a reason to exploit it. Just because I don't have armed guards with authorized lethal force around the perimeter of my yard, and razor wire to keep out the riffraff, that doesn't mean it's my fault if someone robs me. They are still at fault.
Every time one of these things happens slashdot blames the sys admins.
I don't know about that. I know myself, I blame the dumfuks who decided to put life-critical systems on the internet. That should not even be legal.
And those sirens are life critical. Texas is hit by a fair number of tornadoes, and the public siren is the last leg of "get your ass under cover. A lot of people have no doubt been saved by the sirens.
So if someone wanted to start invoking "boy who cried wolf" syndrome, just start sending a lot of commands for false alarms.
Sysadmins just do what they are told to do, the powers that be make the decisions to put life-critical devices on an inherently open communications system,
What attack? That was normal operation of the sirens. An attack would have been if he cranked up the volume and blew them out. Or maybe planting malware for more nefarious purposes. If you leave your door unlocked and somebody comes by and opens then closes it every few minutes is that an attack?
You don't buy into psychological warfare?
There is no such thing as perfect security. Given enough time any system can be broken.
And when you have a system that the whole world can hack it, all you do is make it certain that it will be hacked.
A system where people need actual physical access isn't perfectly secure, but it is hella unlikely that a Nigerian Prince is going to have direct access to it.
I mean it isn't like we didn't have these things before the internet. Wonder how humans survived?
A door being unlocked does not give one the right to steal what's behind it
That is correct. However, when the entire world has immediate access to that door, then not securing the door makes you an incompetent idiot who has no business holding any job related to security.
Let's go, mod AC up.
Especially in a country like the US, where we have the dual issues of being interventionist, and being top of the worldwide heap for a while, we make a lot of enemies (don't feel smug about it, everyone gets a turn) Just being at the top of the heap means there are groups who want to tear you down.
And the internet invites them into our living rooms, and our warning sirens. And a lot of other things as well. We've put things on the IoT that never should have been there. IoT is a pretty good illustration of unfixable stupid.
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To make it worse, now mostly mundane stuff has become an "ALERT!!!!!111!!!", which contributes to giving everyone alert fatigue, and when something real happens, they don't even know if they are supposed to care?
Exactly this. We've gotten so many alerts that we gave up and turned them off. And most were stupid. Most are too far away, most are false alarms, like when a woman thought her kid was abducted by her Ex, and it turned out the little girl had gotten in the car, took it out of gear, and the car drifted down the driveway and into the nearby woods. Even so, that alert was like 200 miles away.
We had one right in our neighborhood when a little boy was a couple minutes late walking home from school. Full alert with the dogs and police and rescue groups activated. Turned out the reason he was 5 minutes late was he stopped to talk to a friend. So 10 minutes after the alert, it was called off. And my alerts were all turned off.
Society might be happy to go insane, And turn it up to 11 on everything, but I don't feel like participating.
In Dallas, 99% of our sirens are for tornados. Get to your bathroom or closet.
Good idea, because when I hear the sirens, I shit myself.
If no one knows what to do when they hear the siren, then there's really not much point in having the siren in the first place.
1.2 million people live in Dallas. 4400 confused people, or about a third of 1%, dialed 911. You can't extrapolate from that to say that "no one" knew what to do.
For the clueless, here is what you should do when you hear a siren:
1 Check facebook
2. Update your status
3. have all your friends send you thoughts and prayers
FTFY
He didn't break the 911 emergency number. The people did that to themselves by flooding the number with calls. Blame where blame is due.
Those people were idiots. If the sirens are blaring, then it is obvious that the authorities are already aware of the problem.
Then again, so is turning the Sirens into yet one more IoT failure point.
I remember when I pointed out that if it was cheap and easy to control all these IoT things, it would likewise be cheap and easy to get into them.
I remember when I was scoffed at every time I brought that up.
We are going to find out what things are connected to the internet in the next couple years by them failing.
You know Russia has subs parked on every undersea communication link that the US has right? The first blow in any war will be the US having its metaphorical eyes, ears, and tongue hacked off.
Hence the interest in satellite-to-satellite communications.
But in humans propensity for insanity, we'll no doubt send up some satellite killers, and the resulting rubble will make our first war in space be our last for at least a hundred years, depending on the orbital decay And that's we as in all of us.
And for Ivan bragging about his subs, why would you cut off one of the best weapons you have? Cutting off the US would hurt you and your tactics more than ours. How you going to alter the vote counts then?
Why is this guy and others like him so intent on categorizing people, personalities, and traits? Only egotistical people do that so they can feel superior to others.
Satire or blindness? You decide.
There are two kinds of people.
Those who separate everything into two types, and those who don't.
Btw. Hackers aka. social degenerates / retards / ++aspergers / youfuckingnameit are also known by their monodiet consisting of pizza (Margherita) and Coca Cola. And all managers are sexual freaks with psycopatic tendencies.
And all moderators are suffering from low self-esteem.
Now, who or what did i miss?
People who show anger issues in their posts?
But fear not good citizens! We'll implement a system that is a real pain in the ass (for you) and give ourselves a internet security award, some promotions and a big pat on the back - until we give your data away the next time as well. That is all - back to what you were doing before we were inconvenienced.
Theory: Staples Tries Co-Working Spaces To Court Millennials And Entrepreneurs.
Reality: They attract hipsters, slackers and the occasional thief.
And the old people who are tired of hanging out at McDonald's in the morning.
Because it's a paradigm shift towards a more organic, collaborative business ecosystem.
What a square old daddy-o you are!
Ooohh, I love that purdy talk. You're hired!
Yep, you're getting old. Can't remember what you posted a few minutes ago.
Then it's your car keys.
Then you're toast.
Toast? Hey young fella, I love toast can ya bring me some?
We had mighty good toast back in the day. Non of this artisanal crap! Who the hell wants painted toast anyhow. Now where was I ?
"Workbar attracts the coveted millennial generation, "
Wait, since when were millennials coveted as employees? Given their stereotyped work ethic, I'd think it would be the opposite.
And yet again, the Gen X'res are forgotten and passed over again by the media.
Holy hell This!
Millennials have not been too successful at working out in the workplace, and it isn't because of the surroundings. It's because their parents and schools have screwed them up so badly.
And "them" is in general. Two of the best employees I've ever worked with were young women millennials. But outside those two, it went downhil really fast. The only saving grace was the problem ones quit quickly and moved back in with their parents or grandparents.
Imagine if it was a gun that shot someone.
xD
That's different.
Will some domesticated dogs go feral and become dogwolves?
They can if they haven't been too messed with by breeding. A Pug or Bulldog is going to have problems. From what I understand, natural breeding of feral dogs tends to bring them back in a few generations to the archetype known as the long-term pariah morphotype. This resembles the original dog breeds which are a subspecies of wolves, so they aren't likely to "re-wolf".
The Dingo is a pretty good example of this.
The long-term pariah morphotype of dogs is probably good to keep around, because we have a tendency to really screw up breeds, and they can be relied upon for their hybrid vigor.
Thinking the latest is the greatest is incredibly naive. The worst possible assumption. Windows 10 taught us that, surely.
Yes, I heard the same arguments from people when we abandoned NTSC for digital. People that don't even understand things like riding and the variable bandwidth (like the red channel had less then 1MHz bandwidth.
My favorite part of my naivety is when people tell me I don't see what I can plainly see.
Windows 10 taught us about television signals?