I still remember sitting in an undergraduate philosophy class where two classmates tried to defend killing the healthy person -- there are actually quite a few people out there who want to actually go down that road, so it doesn't surprise me at all if people endorsed it here.
the questin of course, is in th eservice of th greater good, are you amenable to having your organs harvested.
In maximum service of the greater good, this would be done in stages, as you wre still alive. Non life ending things like eyes would be the first to be plucked out. Then a kidney at a time. Then finally the heart liver and lungs. Finally, you expire in teh service of the greater good.
I'm pretty convinced that everyone who likes this idea likes it for everyone else but themselves.
A lot of the technical comments got hit by a downvote brigade last night.
Read down to look at the people actually talking about tools & methods.
Anyone checked to see if any of those names are Slashdot users? there is no doubt two forces arrayed against this issue. First is the perps themselves and their supporters. Second is the Useful idiot faction, Americans who have been trained for so long to hate, that they either accept, actually want the intrusion, or juste deny it despite any proof offered.
Watch for this post to get marked as Troll in 3....2.....1....
I only pick on the democrats because they claim to be above it all. I expect it from the republicans, so it went without mentioning.
You are looking at it with blinders on. Republicans have long claimed the moral high ground. Now this might be based on your proclivities. But google moreal high ground and see what you get. Lot's of articles on how the Democrats have lost the moral high ground, lots of articles how the Republicans have lost the moral high ground.
I'm fully aware of their tag team relationship, each keeping the seat warm for the other. But their theatrical bickering sells well at the expense of non-aligned candidates who don't serve the party. The real email 'scandal' is about weapons sales and smuggling to terrorists, but the cartoon angle serves party interests better. If you want to talk about Hillary's legacy, this is it in a nutshell. You can see why the Russians might be a bit upset, but the election rigging is still a domestic issue.
You have me there, Republicans have never done any weapons sales, especially not to actual enemies of the United States. Especially not via a money Laundering type scheme. On this matter they are blameless.........
You'll probably try to frame this as you arguiung with a Liberal Dem. Nope, You are arguing with someone who has a good memory, and doesn't allow his personal politics to frame the other party as evil just because they are both doing the same thing as each other. I can go tit for tat on most things you can bring up.
I credit you with not taking the response I get most of the time, which is being told to go die in a fire. Remarkably from Democrat types as well as Republican types.
Not at all, I'm sure the machines are being meddled with, but I'm more inclined to believe the perpetrators are of domestic origin, the two sides hacking each other, this Russian thing is a distraction (Occans Razor indeed) to suppress info about our own party corruption, which runs rampant (I hope you're not going to deny that part of the deal).
Both parties have more than enough corruption to go around. People who are aghast about Helleray squashing the Bern in the primaries seem to forget that actively working against candidates who were "too liberal" was a widely known Republican tactic for years. It's all how you frame it, if you are a conservative Republican, it was simply good politics and made sense. If a Democrap group does it, its corruption.
The email scandal. I know some things, and the email issue rose to the level of a security violation, which is almost never a criminal offense except in certain espionage cases. So "Put her in Jail!" just wasn't going to happen.
Why they didn't focus on that more, I don't know.
All the while, the story of DNC meddling in the primaries (possibly on both sides. They wanted Trump to win the republican side, thinking he was a soft target) is being completely ignored.
HOW is this being completely ignored? Unless the DNC was changing votes, it wasn't unusual action anyhow.
I've seen this news all over the place. It's amusing/annoying how people seem to want 24/7/365 one issue only coverage, otherwise its being "completely ignored". Liberals were doing the same thing with the pipeline demonstrations in North Dakota. I saw news stories about it on mainstream news outlets, and dozens of the politically biased "Why is there absolutely no coverage of this?" crap in other places.
Everybody wants to make this into a republican thing, while the democrats are really the devious ones.
I think that you just didn't hear about the Republicans this year. Would you be surprised if I told you that both parties are corrupt? Especially if you consider backroom dealing corrupt.
While we're bombarded with news about Russian hacking, let's not forget that the first country that deployed what can be called a "cyber-weapon" is the USA.
Until they provide it, there is no evidence for us to examine. Precedents take precedence. Their history speaks much louder than their public statements. The lies are just too numerous to take anything at face value. Why is everyone so quick to play along? What makes the official narrative so compelling?
I'm not making any comments abour if the Russkies are or if they aren't I do know that sometimes that sort of information is classified.
Here's my main point. The US Guvmint internet is seriously insecure. So I'm using Occams Razor to assume that such an insecure system is going to be attacked. Who? I dunno, but a lot of people don't like us, so it's gonna happen.
You aren't going to say that in the run up to the election that there was zero hacks, are you? Seems like evidence to me just a little.
What is really impressive however is that there are a lot of Republican AMericans who don't care, as long as their candidate gone.
If less people are dying on the road (resulting in organ shortage) those lives are already saved. Can't say I support people dying for the sake of their organs. Hopefully through, it will accelerate artificial organ (biological or chemicoelectrical) development.
This! REading some of these posts, it would seem that some folks here want to go out and kill others to harvest their internal organs.
Tell me, what scif are you working in that you for a fact know that there is no evidence. And you think you should be broadcasting that absolute knowledge here on Slashdot?
With Evolution, nobody's come up with a better model for how life began/advanced on earth.
So what? Your need to have every single person buy into something before you are allowed to discuss it is exactly that.
And in exactly the same way, Religious fundamentalists have mad attempts to force science classes to teach their religion's outlook on which they mostly deny, and believe in creationism, or intelligent design. Th/ey love to point out that they want to teach the controversy.
the parallels are exact.
The existing model works quite well. And it also isn't producing endless pronouncements of The End Of Days with no concrete solutions for avoiding it.
With AGW/GCC, we get an endless string of:
THE END IS NIGH!
What do we do about it?...THE END IS NIGH!
They're not denying "the greenhouse effect" you tool.
Winning friends everywhere aren't you?
They're simply saying that the causes of global climate change/global warming/global cooling/whatever the new happy-fun-name it uses today is still being debated. (Fact!)
The entire population of the planet hasn't bought in.
So tell me, are we to remove evolution from science because there are some peopel whi odon't believe in it? How about eliminating medicine because the Church od Christ Scientist doesn't believe in it.
Of course, the entire population hasn't bought in. Let's dump physics while we are at it, becaue there is not 100 percent agreement.
And that is about all of the explanation you deserve
How is it not more of a scandal that the Republicans keep trying to fuck with your democracy? Like when they introduce voter registration laws that are laser targeted at Democrat voters.
Basic - We are angels, they are devils politics. You can see in here where there is support for making federal governing secret by the same people who railed on about Obama's lack of transparency.
They don't care they've all been trained to hate, and they do it so well.
Even assume that's not going to happen, it's a pretty disturbing proposal, especially considering it seems to be in response to this:
But after the sit-in, led by John Lewis (D-Ga.), Ryan called a recess, effectively ending the C-SPAN broadcast. That is when Democrats used their phones and took to social media.
So Democrats staged a public protest. Republicans shut down the broadcast. Democrats resorted to broadcasting online by streaming from their phones. Republicans respond by trying to make streaming illegal. That's pretty fucked up.
Because Patriots know that the utmost secrecy is mandatory for the proper functioning of Government.
It's funny that some of the same peopel who jack off while thinking about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden ae so certain tht a Republian majority must do it's work in secret.
If you are getting constant BSODs you have a piece of bad hardware. It's pretty much a flat out lie now a days to say they are part of the windows experience.
Yeah, and everyone else. What you just made is the age old assertion that any problem yu have is the fault of anything else but Windows. I have a few, and the people who come to me have a number of them.
They are all so damn stupid. I've been working hard to move them to OS' where they aren't so stupid. Lying? Mebbe. Can't think of a reason why though.
But Windows is exceptionally brittle, and people in here act like it is exactly how working with a computer is supposed to be.
How many third-party drivers do you have installed on your Mac? How many do you have installed on the Windows machines that you see crash regularly?
I haven't counted them, but probably about the same number. The third party thing is interesting though, because Apple writes many/all of their drivers, and Microsoft has decided that it is easier to blame the manufacturers.
Either way, Windows is unstable, and OSX is not. I don't care who's "fault" it is. Because it is what it is.
That will be for hardware errors only, software errors will have an infrared screen o' death. It will be great for the blind as they will be able to feel the error.
What about the jobs that will be eliminated by these automobiles?
Amazing how you got modded down, but the clueless punk you replied to has been modded up.
The whooshers are out in full force. To be certain, a 150 dollar permit won't hurt Uber. They simply don't want their driverless cars to be classified as autonomous yet.
Because people should be able to support themselves, and a person working full time should not use Government handouts.
We have had a shift in recent years, where the old higher paying jobs have been moved to other countries - leaving people who might otherwise had one of those jobs in competition for the jobs at WalMart and McDonald's. Now we can say what we want about the overpaid American worker, but soon laid off IT workers will also be competing for those jobs at minimum wage, and getting on the dole.
This is not s sustainable situation, for either the people with those jobs, the Governments, and eventually the businesses who reaped the benefits of the Government support of the business. It is one of the great mysteries of how people in favor of free market Capitalism, are communists when it benefits them.
The tax codes have become insanely complicated, mostly due to the codes being used for a social engineering carrot and stick, and if this doesn't get fixed, things will get ugly and it will be uglyist for those on unearned entitlements.
Wait - you mean the lazy shiftless poor, or do you mean the job creators who depend on their employees collecting social benefits from the government to enhance their service of the stockholders?
I've never received a single dollar from the government. I just pay, pay, pay my taxes. Nothing ever changes. Nothing ever gets better.
Is that you Bob? You sound just like my buddy Bob. Nice guy, tea partier, hates the guvmint with a passion. He's never gotten a dollar from the guvmint either.
Enlisted in the army, stayed 4 years
Went to college on GI Bill
Has all his medical bills taken care of
Worked for the guvmint for 30 years
Retired and collecting Social Security.
I don't begrudge him any of it, but its kind of a stretch to say he never took a cent of tax money.
Way too many people seem to think that all of the stuff around them just somehow happens, that if no one paid taxes, everything would be kept up some how.
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I still remember sitting in an undergraduate philosophy class where two classmates tried to defend killing the healthy person -- there are actually quite a few people out there who want to actually go down that road, so it doesn't surprise me at all if people endorsed it here.
the questin of course, is in th eservice of th greater good, are you amenable to having your organs harvested.
In maximum service of the greater good, this would be done in stages, as you wre still alive. Non life ending things like eyes would be the first to be plucked out. Then a kidney at a time. Then finally the heart liver and lungs. Finally, you expire in teh service of the greater good.
I'm pretty convinced that everyone who likes this idea likes it for everyone else but themselves.
A lot of the technical comments got hit by a downvote brigade last night.
Read down to look at the people actually talking about tools & methods.
Anyone checked to see if any of those names are Slashdot users? there is no doubt two forces arrayed against this issue. First is the perps themselves and their supporters. Second is the Useful idiot faction, Americans who have been trained for so long to hate, that they either accept, actually want the intrusion, or juste deny it despite any proof offered.
Watch for this post to get marked as Troll in 3....2.....1....
I only pick on the democrats because they claim to be above it all. I expect it from the republicans, so it went without mentioning.
You are looking at it with blinders on. Republicans have long claimed the moral high ground. Now this might be based on your proclivities. But google moreal high ground and see what you get. Lot's of articles on how the Democrats have lost the moral high ground, lots of articles how the Republicans have lost the moral high ground.
I'm fully aware of their tag team relationship, each keeping the seat warm for the other. But their theatrical bickering sells well at the expense of non-aligned candidates who don't serve the party. The real email 'scandal' is about weapons sales and smuggling to terrorists, but the cartoon angle serves party interests better. If you want to talk about Hillary's legacy, this is it in a nutshell. You can see why the Russians might be a bit upset, but the election rigging is still a domestic issue.
You have me there, Republicans have never done any weapons sales, especially not to actual enemies of the United States. Especially not via a money Laundering type scheme. On this matter they are blameless.........
You'll probably try to frame this as you arguiung with a Liberal Dem. Nope, You are arguing with someone who has a good memory, and doesn't allow his personal politics to frame the other party as evil just because they are both doing the same thing as each other. I can go tit for tat on most things you can bring up.
I credit you with not taking the response I get most of the time, which is being told to go die in a fire. Remarkably from Democrat types as well as Republican types.
Not at all, I'm sure the machines are being meddled with, but I'm more inclined to believe the perpetrators are of domestic origin, the two sides hacking each other, this Russian thing is a distraction (Occans Razor indeed) to suppress info about our own party corruption, which runs rampant (I hope you're not going to deny that part of the deal).
Both parties have more than enough corruption to go around. People who are aghast about Helleray squashing the Bern in the primaries seem to forget that actively working against candidates who were "too liberal" was a widely known Republican tactic for years. It's all how you frame it, if you are a conservative Republican, it was simply good politics and made sense. If a Democrap group does it, its corruption.
The email scandal. I know some things, and the email issue rose to the level of a security violation, which is almost never a criminal offense except in certain espionage cases. So "Put her in Jail!" just wasn't going to happen.
Why they didn't focus on that more, I don't know.
All the while, the story of DNC meddling in the primaries (possibly on both sides. They wanted Trump to win the republican side, thinking he was a soft target) is being completely ignored.
HOW is this being completely ignored? Unless the DNC was changing votes, it wasn't unusual action anyhow.
I've seen this news all over the place. It's amusing/annoying how people seem to want 24/7/365 one issue only coverage, otherwise its being "completely ignored". Liberals were doing the same thing with the pipeline demonstrations in North Dakota. I saw news stories about it on mainstream news outlets, and dozens of the politically biased "Why is there absolutely no coverage of this?" crap in other places.
Everybody wants to make this into a republican thing, while the democrats are really the devious ones.
I think that you just didn't hear about the Republicans this year. Would you be surprised if I told you that both parties are corrupt? Especially if you consider backroom dealing corrupt.
While we're bombarded with news about Russian hacking, let's not forget that the first country that deployed what can be called a "cyber-weapon" is the USA.
Fine logic there.
Is Trump's connection with Putin purely sexual, or are there US national security implications?
Odd - I would have modded your post as informative, maybe even insightful. Answer to the first is no, the second is very much yes.
A whole lot of "zero evidence" going on
Until they provide it, there is no evidence for us to examine. Precedents take precedence. Their history speaks much louder than their public statements. The lies are just too numerous to take anything at face value. Why is everyone so quick to play along? What makes the official narrative so compelling?
I'm not making any comments abour if the Russkies are or if they aren't I do know that sometimes that sort of information is classified.
Here's my main point. The US Guvmint internet is seriously insecure. So I'm using Occams Razor to assume that such an insecure system is going to be attacked. Who? I dunno, but a lot of people don't like us, so it's gonna happen.
You aren't going to say that in the run up to the election that there was zero hacks, are you? Seems like evidence to me just a little.
What is really impressive however is that there are a lot of Republican AMericans who don't care, as long as their candidate gone.
If less people are dying on the road (resulting in organ shortage) those lives are already saved. Can't say I support people dying for the sake of their organs. Hopefully through, it will accelerate artificial organ (biological or chemicoelectrical) development.
This! REading some of these posts, it would seem that some folks here want to go out and kill others to harvest their internal organs.
Sound familiar? Some things never change
Tell me, what scif are you working in that you for a fact know that there is no evidence. And you think you should be broadcasting that absolute knowledge here on Slashdot?
With Evolution, nobody's come up with a better model for how life began/advanced on earth.
So what? Your need to have every single person buy into something before you are allowed to discuss it is exactly that.
And in exactly the same way, Religious fundamentalists have mad attempts to force science classes to teach their religion's outlook on which they mostly deny, and believe in creationism, or intelligent design. Th/ey love to point out that they want to teach the controversy.
the parallels are exact.
The existing model works quite well. And it also isn't producing endless pronouncements of The End Of Days with no concrete solutions for avoiding it.
With AGW/GCC, we get an endless string of:
THE END IS NIGH! What do we do about it? ...THE END IS NIGH!
They're not denying "the greenhouse effect" you tool.
Winning friends everywhere aren't you?
They're simply saying that the causes of global climate change/global warming/global cooling/whatever the new happy-fun-name it uses today is still being debated. (Fact!)
The entire population of the planet hasn't bought in.
So tell me, are we to remove evolution from science because there are some peopel whi odon't believe in it? How about eliminating medicine because the Church od Christ Scientist doesn't believe in it.
Of course, the entire population hasn't bought in. Let's dump physics while we are at it, becaue there is not 100 percent agreement.
And that is about all of the explanation you deserve
The stupid people are in charge now. It takes a special level of stupitidy to deny teh greenhouse effect.
How is it not more of a scandal that the Republicans keep trying to fuck with your democracy? Like when they introduce voter registration laws that are laser targeted at Democrat voters.
Basic - We are angels, they are devils politics. You can see in here where there is support for making federal governing secret by the same people who railed on about Obama's lack of transparency.
They don't care they've all been trained to hate, and they do it so well.
Even assume that's not going to happen, it's a pretty disturbing proposal, especially considering it seems to be in response to this:
But after the sit-in, led by John Lewis (D-Ga.), Ryan called a recess, effectively ending the C-SPAN broadcast. That is when Democrats used their phones and took to social media.
So Democrats staged a public protest. Republicans shut down the broadcast. Democrats resorted to broadcasting online by streaming from their phones. Republicans respond by trying to make streaming illegal. That's pretty fucked up.
Because Patriots know that the utmost secrecy is mandatory for the proper functioning of Government.
It's funny that some of the same peopel who jack off while thinking about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden ae so certain tht a Republian majority must do it's work in secret.
If you are getting constant BSODs you have a piece of bad hardware. It's pretty much a flat out lie now a days to say they are part of the windows experience.
Yeah, and everyone else. What you just made is the age old assertion that any problem yu have is the fault of anything else but Windows. I have a few, and the people who come to me have a number of them.
They are all so damn stupid. I've been working hard to move them to OS' where they aren't so stupid. Lying? Mebbe. Can't think of a reason why though.
But Windows is exceptionally brittle, and people in here act like it is exactly how working with a computer is supposed to be.
How many third-party drivers do you have installed on your Mac? How many do you have installed on the Windows machines that you see crash regularly?
I haven't counted them, but probably about the same number. The third party thing is interesting though, because Apple writes many/all of their drivers, and Microsoft has decided that it is easier to blame the manufacturers.
Either way, Windows is unstable, and OSX is not. I don't care who's "fault" it is. Because it is what it is.
That will be for hardware errors only, software errors will have an infrared screen o' death. It will be great for the blind as they will be able to feel the error.
The liberal ones will feel the Bern.
On OS X, it is as well but you get a tasteful grey box in the middle of the screen telling you in four languages to reboot the system.
Which I have seen exactly twice since I started on OS X. BSODS? They are just a regular part of the Windows experience.
Green Spew of Doom Get Sick or Die and countless others.
Don't MS have anything better to do?
Me for an OS that doen't Bluscreen or GreenScreen - just works.
So the fee on a driverless car is killing jobs?
What about the jobs that will be eliminated by these automobiles?
Amazing how you got modded down, but the clueless punk you replied to has been modded up.
The whooshers are out in full force. To be certain, a 150 dollar permit won't hurt Uber. They simply don't want their driverless cars to be classified as autonomous yet.
Why can't it be both?
Because people should be able to support themselves, and a person working full time should not use Government handouts.
We have had a shift in recent years, where the old higher paying jobs have been moved to other countries - leaving people who might otherwise had one of those jobs in competition for the jobs at WalMart and McDonald's. Now we can say what we want about the overpaid American worker, but soon laid off IT workers will also be competing for those jobs at minimum wage, and getting on the dole.
This is not s sustainable situation, for either the people with those jobs, the Governments, and eventually the businesses who reaped the benefits of the Government support of the business. It is one of the great mysteries of how people in favor of free market Capitalism, are communists when it benefits them.
The tax codes have become insanely complicated, mostly due to the codes being used for a social engineering carrot and stick, and if this doesn't get fixed, things will get ugly and it will be uglyist for those on unearned entitlements.
Wait - you mean the lazy shiftless poor, or do you mean the job creators who depend on their employees collecting social benefits from the government to enhance their service of the stockholders?
I've never received a single dollar from the government. I just pay, pay, pay my taxes. Nothing ever changes. Nothing ever gets better.
Is that you Bob? You sound just like my buddy Bob. Nice guy, tea partier, hates the guvmint with a passion. He's never gotten a dollar from the guvmint either.
Enlisted in the army, stayed 4 years
Went to college on GI Bill
Has all his medical bills taken care of
Worked for the guvmint for 30 years
Retired and collecting Social Security.
I don't begrudge him any of it, but its kind of a stretch to say he never took a cent of tax money.
Way too many people seem to think that all of the stuff around them just somehow happens, that if no one paid taxes, everything would be kept up some how.
What will they do with people who fail the eye test? Kill them, I'd wager.
They seem to like beating people with big sticks.