Universities have spent many millions of dollars trying to give the snowflakes a crash course in becoming adults
That problem is solved now, universities get "safe spaces" and anti-microaggression lectures, lest some snowflakes melt.
I think next step would be to child proof the work places.
That's going to come to an end here, as the tyranny of the overly sensitive is getting a huge backlash as teh snowflakes demand that only thier oppression is allowed, and nothing they disagree with is allowed.
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macOS Sierra (10.12) does this - Twice recently it has just closed all applications and logged me out, randomly, with no warning.
Last time was during an iMovie export, with ca 15 minutes left - had to re-run the export, after iMovie spent half an hour to check that its "database" is still valid.
Yeah, we use Apple computers too in this house-hold, but it is not problem free, not by a long stretch.
Sounds like a classic case of thecooling system needing cleaned.
I don't think you're a fool. Bought my wife a MBP last year. Our home is now Windows-free. No more "Honey, this update is taking forever, can't you do anything about it?" No more Windows Just Crapped Itself And Ate Her Report At 11PM on Sunday (and *of course* she has her semi-monthly department heads meeting at 9 the following morning...). And no more worries about what Windows is trying to pull with her data, and on my network. BLISS!!!
I thought I would resent having to pay too much for hardware that I know full well I can get for half the price. But after a year? Not a bit.
Best damn overpriced kit I ever forked out for, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Damn straight I would.
Having used both Mac and Windows machines since the early 90s - Not so much W 3.1 - My Macs lasted longer between 1.5 and 2 times longer to be precise. The only equipment problem I had was na Xserver that had the leaky cap issue, and Apple overnighted one to me. Also some iMacs were hit by that. But then a lot of Dells were too, so that's a wash. As well, whne performance was taken into account, the PC/Mac price divide got a lot narrower.
Then there was the update process. Pretty ugly on the Windows side. I managed to keep it at bay until W10 gave me no choice other than to defer the day of failure.
Nobody said the Millennials were harder working, just that the Baby Boomers were overly proud of an accomplishment that wasn't true.
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You'll notice that in my posts, I often write about my differences with my generation, regarding financial and social responsibility. I did not act like them. Yeah, a lot of us protested, especially the earlier ones. All generations ag through some issues when they are coming of age. Boomers, GenXer's, Milleniums are no different in that respect.
What is different is that altogether too many of the millennials, in my estimation as a result of well meaning but overprotective and poor parenting, are allowing themselves to fall into the trap of blaming their grandparents, not their parents, and not having the chutzpah to go out and take life by the horns.
Silly goose, states rights only matter on some issues and safety regulation isn't one thats something the feds should stop states from doing. State rights apply to things like human rights not things that could cost businesses money.
Actually, the states rights people tell us that anyhiing not speeled out in the constitution as a power to the federal guvmint is not allowed by the federal guvmint, therefore since autonomous cars are not mentioned, therefore it's a states rights issue.
Another thing is those employers who appear to try hard to give themselves problems.
Unpaid trial periods are a thing for some places, but they just do not seem to get that they are selecting for people who can afford not to work and can behave like the characters the GP is describing. However each time they get disappointed they go out of their way to discourage the sort of people who will work hard and stick around.
The sort of employees they actually want look at the prospect of no money for a while and decide it's pointless when they are good enough that other employers will actually be paying them something elsewhere.
For what it's worth, we paid well, Market value for the area + reoughly 20 percent, we did 1.5 or 2 days per month vacation, unlimited sick leave, and maternity and paternity leave, a choice between defined contribution and defined benefit pension plan, as well as being able to take advantage of non-profit status for having multiple pension plans outside of the one's offered. Workplace longevity outside of the millenials was good. I was there over 30 years, and people actively tried to get employed there.
IOW almost everyone actually wanted to be employed there, and wanted to stay there and retire from there.
Except for the millennials. The had a horrible time fitting in, and most left to go back home after burning out.
One possibility was that all workplaces have some shit ya gotta shovel. Not everything about the work was perfect. I had things I hated doing, and everyone did. But I'd conjecture that some of the younger folks fixated on the negative aspects of the work, and mom and dad couldn't swoop in and protect them from it.
And even though the millenials here see me as attacking them - I'm not. I'm attacking their parents who didn't add growing up to their growing up. A child can remain childlike through their entire life if you allow them to. These poor kids got through college before they had to become adults, and it is terribly hard on them.
And yet I see people half my age bust their asses around the work place all the time.
Either way, anecdotal evidence is garbage.
Y'all crack me up wih anecdotal evidenc is worthless bullshit. Everything is anecdotal evidence.
You are confusing data points with non truth. Allow me to make this clear to you. All of the exploding phones put out by samsung have not had a double blind rigourous testr process to teliminate all ofhter possibilities that eliminated every other possibility for the reports of them catching fire. This is truth.
NOw you are saying that every person that reported "My phone caught on fire is garbage, and means nothing. Each of those reports was an anecdote, therefore you in your wisdom can claim that there is no scientific evidence that SamSung S7 phones have any problem whatsoever, therefore thw batteries do not catch on fire.
All of the phones that burned up were not done under rigourous laboratory condition so any conclusions ore pointless, the phones are 100 percent safe.
So bullshit.
The Universities that have multiple instances of student's parents interfering with the university's functions, such as trying to have professors fired because the child didn't like them are get ready for this Anecdotal evidence, not proven by strict scientific studies. So in your jugement bullshit and garbage.
Here re some non scientific anecotal evident for ya Complete with a lot of references
Total bullshit, you might say, as not each single anecdote which is garbage has not been totally proven. right? I mean you have to be rigorous right?
I have two finals things to say. My data points, of approximately 20 unsuccessful and semi successful 3 and 2 successful millenial candidates are just that. Data points that agree with a lot of other data points. And when a lot of data points agree with other data points, you are probably on to something.
And finally, give me the rigourous scientific proof that concludes that all anecdotes are garbage. otherwise you are just giving your opinion, and last time I checked, opinions are not necessarily the truth, and certainly not scientific proofs.
What do you mean "become"? They ARE the norm already in many cases. How many people actually have the money to move out? "Living in your mom's basement" may be the staple of nerd and neckbeard jokes, for some people it's the uncomfortable truth simply because they can't earn a wage high enough to afford their own apartment.
I dunno. My son is one of the millennials, and while we don't all have complete control over our progeny, He's married now, supporting himself and his wife and the twins. The wife and I are generous to them, but even if we didn't, they'd do just fine.
Seeing the problems that the helicopter parents were instilling, I made certain that he had exposure to the time to interact with other kids in a setting where an adult wasn't correcting every problem. He got to learn how to deal with problems. He also got to learn how to be self reliant, which went a log way toward getting and keeping a job and supporting himself. His first jobs weren't in his field, and his first place wasn't lavish by far. But as time goes on, he moves up. That's pretty much how I did it too. The goal is the goal, not the starting place.
"Ayn chadash tachat hashemesh" --- there is nothing new under the sun.
What language is that? Sounds cool at any rate.
Andto be certain, my actual complaint isn't about the millenials, its about their parents who screwed them up. The millenials get pissed at me because their upbringing doesn't allow for criticism, so they hear something not completely positive and it enrages them.
And before the next wave of the shitstorm arrives, kids, of course the whole issue is dealing in generalizations.
Those bicyclists and motorcyclist and walking deaths you're citing as being so much bigger than car deaths are mostly killed by cars.
True. But seriously - note that my response was pointing out that using the safest by miles travelled is a strange metric to use. Y'all disagreeing with me are inadvertantly proving my point.
Anecdotes? Whoa there, buddy, you're argument about a few people is clearly statistically significant! I guess we should discard what scientists say because it doesn't seem right to you.
Its a data point, and one shared by others. It's shared as well by universities, who are spending that money to retrain students and especially their parents
You want references? Need data? Of course in social matters what constitutes data is ephemeral but here goes:
I can give you hundreds more, so label Universities as trolls and call each one irrelevant.
My anecdotes - and I can give you more - merely corroborate the larger experience.
Point is, young adults come out with unrealistic expectations, have not been allowed to grow up and have trouble making their own decisions, and are prone to depression and disappointment, and their parents are the cause.
They are damaged goods, and will need a decade of trying to sort out what they should have learned since childhood. Don't blame your grandparents, and don't blame yourselves. But blame only goes so far, so ya gotta pick yourselves up and move on.
You mean that we have the expectation that people we pay to work for us should, you know, work for us? What we need them to do? Yeah, I have to admit, we kinda do have that sort of expectation.
I think that part of the self esteem movement has inadvertently inculcated some of the youngsters with the idea that they are to be lavishly rewarded for minimal output. When you are constantly praised for simple tasks like tying your shoes, actual work demands a parade in your honor. I had one young lady who took several months vacation (mostly unpaid since she accrued it at a day and a half per month) in the first year, spent hours a day on facebook, when given work tried to assign it to the older folks, and was expecting a promotion after a year. Didn't get it, so she quit and moved in with Grams and Gramps.
The millennials intrinsically know the game is rigged against them.
Wah!
Oh, and every generation invented sex too. The game is rigged, and has been for a long time. When I first entered the workforce, the "common knowledge" was that there was no point in saving for retirement, inflation and jeebuz chryste we were all gonna die when the bombs are a-flyin overhead. So our go-go generation largely screwed itself over by acting in their own worst interests down the road.
The only thing not in short supply for so many of you is self pity. My generation had it as well, with the young males looking forward to involuntary conscription and the chance to get fucked up or killed in southeast Asia. You have to worry about being out of cell phone range.
Go to school and have a 50\50 shot of coming out of it with a good enough job to pay off the debt, work 2 to 4 jobs and try to move up in the world without an education and try to move up at a good company, or stay at home with Mom and Dad. Those are your choices.
Bullshit on the second, but let's back up a little.. The cost of education is a true problem that young people - actually everyone - have today. After decades of belittling anything but a 4 year college degree, where a bachelor's degree in philosophy or womyn's studies was touted as superior to a machinist, plumber or other blue collar work, and the willingness of people to pay for the worthless fields of study, we've reached the endstage where the economics are not there.
But even there, you don't have to play the game if you are willing to think for yourself. Way back whne in the early 70's against the demands of my high school advosors, and even a sit down with the principle and cautions sent to my parents, I took both academic and vocational (electronics) majors in High School. Served me well throughout life.
Have a male child today, what's his chances of procreating? 50\50. You tell me how you're going to manage that many impoverished, pissed off, and heavily armed men.
That's a social construct, definitely not one made by my generation. Its the overshoot of the feminist movement, where young ladies have been taught that sexual harassment is almost anything they don't like. https://www.bustle.com/article...
Where a wolf whistle is accorded the same level of seriousness as full blown sexual assault.
That posters comment is just one.
Meh, people have been telling me to die in a fire since I was in grade school. Don't act like millennials invented raging.
Pew researches studies on marriage and rates people are having kids are pretty conclusive here if you care to look.
And I agree. Even way back when, I put my limit at 1 offspring. After that it was snip snip.
There's millions of people who are stark raving mad, just like the above poster. They are enjoying what time they have left before an economic crash or collapse. 2nded the bullet in the head comment. 100% what millennials feel about how they've been fucked over.
Oh golly gosh. Your attitude is characteristic of how millenials have been fucked over, but not in the way you think it is.
Raised by parents who might have been well meaning, but have done immense damage to you by not allowing you to grow up. I've seen millennial children in diapers until they started preschool, as their parents tried to slow the growing up process. I've seen millennial children not have a free moment among themselves as they were shuffled off from one lesson, sport or camp, always under the strict supervision of an adult. Never an unsupervised moment. Then it was made worse by the self esteem movement, where children were taught they, the singular chi
Per mile is kind of disengenuous. What happens when you do it per trip or per hour of travel? Also, by your own numbers, plane travel is nearly 10 times safer than automobile travel. So there is plenty of room for improvement.
Or number of total trips, or survivors per accident? Or passenger miles, or by television coverage or day of the week? Does anyone note that the original post I replied to was by mile, so I replied by mile?
While I tend to believe that train travel is pretty darn safe, space shuttle flight is skewed by the fact that once achieving orbit, you are travelling somewhere around 17,500 miles per hour once in orbit, so racking up the miles at a prodigious pace.
It wouldn't stop me from tiding in one, but big kablooey things like rockets aren't terribly safe.
According to your statistics, the space shuttle is only slightly more dangerous than driving in a car and less dangerous than a ferry, which is obvious nonsense.
Millenials ar ethe hardest working most selfless generation ever put on earth. They also have suffered more than any generation ever.
So that mommy that wants to come in for little precious's job interview or the guy working for me that told me in no uncertain terms that he doesn't answer teh telephone but only takes texts or the young lady who thought that facebook was part of her job and took off two months the first 6 months she worked and then all but one of them quit and moved back in with mommy and daddy (except teh one who moved in with Grams and Grampy and the ones who tried to get their bosses fired by calling mommy and dady who called the Director, are all just outliers?
I had two who worked out well, and even one of those ended up moving to be closer to Mums and Pops.
What happened was the snowflakes got a tast of reality, where every decision wasn't made by their helicoptering parents, and are now trying to make up for wasted teenage years of emotional development.
Universities have spent many millions of dollars trying to give the snowflakes a crash course in becoming adults
And I don't blame the kids either. Their parents were the cause, and mumsy and popsy should be strung up for not allowing their children to grow up.
I'm glad they mentioned it didn't include Chromebooks, which have sold like hotcakes. They can't do everything, but can do a lot of what average people need...and they are relatively cheap. It's all I take with me when I go to clients or on vacation...well, that and my smartphone.
I also have a Chromebook that I take with me when I don't want my expensive computers in harms way. It dual boots Linux as well. Nice little computers. And it has never not worked for me.
The times are changing. This is not the day of escape codes and if you get the computer to print landscape you have been a success. Some of us demand that the device work the next morning when it worked the day before.
And Win10 fails that miserably, and just isn't ready for primetime, or much else. It's the Trabant of operating systems.
I want to but a new PC laptop too, but it has to run Win7, because just like W8, I won't own another with shitware on it. Been out looking, but of course, no one local is selling a new laptop with an actual working operating system, like W7.
If you are a Costco member they are currently selling an HP Envy 15t with an i7 and a 1080p display preloaded with Windows 7. I'd buy one myself but I need a discrete GPU.
Nope. A guy who needs uptime. Windows 10 doesn't remotely provide the uptime. I have a Windows 7 system that hasn't had a problem in a year and a half now. I abandoned W10 after it turned computers into a steaming pile of no worky, the third time with the Anniversary update.
The Mac? just works, Not much else I need to say about it. Gets an update and installs it only when I tell it to install it, not when Apple decides to install it like they do with Windows 10
But if you want to think I'm a fool, you just go right ahead, coward, you just go right ahead.
Given that they force you to buy 8 channels of dreck just to get the one channel you want, it's not surprising. One of the many reasons why I cut the cord.
Lets see the utter pile of shit there is available:
Some 50 shows where sassy women sit around and yap and fight with each other.
Another bunch where people sing more or less the same music to win prizes.
Stupid dancing programs where professional athletes always win over some star or presidential candidates tramp daughter because they're professional athletes.
Shows where yuppies pretend to be rednecks and encourage pedophilia
Shows where superior people pop dozens of larvae out of a clown car vagina, and stand up for one of them being a pedophile.
Strange shows with really weid looking guys with weird looking hair and stuff, but with wives who are oddly attractive.
Shows where peope who never met each other sign a contract to marry each other.
Marriage saving shows for kooks
Must be a million shows about people in Alaska.
"Science" shows where humans are stupid, and apparently every advancement in history was made by aliens.
My better half watches some old reruns and court TV, so I see the ads for the weirdo shows.
Then there are the commercials Sue this person sue that medicine company, Suee everyone. If you win an annuity in your suit, there's another company that will give you a lump sum if you give tehm the annuity.
So I'm left with cartoon channel, and The Science channel, and HBO.
Otherwise, its Youtube science and space/airplane vids. I can't be the only one who watches less than 1% of their crap.
This isn't a law. It's sour grapes on California's part for losing Toyota.
You against the rights of teh individual state to pass laws that are not provided to the federal Government by the constitution?
States rights baby, it isn't just to make mandatory carry and flying of the confederate flag the law.
And Toyota is completely free to ignore it and not sell their vehicles in California.. The marketplace. If you don't like onerous regulations, refuse to sell Toyotas to California citizens. And not a regulation at all to hinder you.
And it seems like a States Rights issue to me. If Toyota doesn't want to sell their cars in Callyforniay, they are completely free to not do just that.
I'm sure you'd agree that autopilot system testing by the FAA is too onerous also. Flying is the safest form of travel, but everyone doesn't use it because it is expensive. Part of the reason it is expensive is because of all the regulations aircraft have to comply with. By eliminating testing. the price will come down, more people will take planes and helicopters everywhere and even more lives will be saved.
Interesting that you use flying as an example. Here is a list of the safest ways to travel:
Trains -.2 deaths per billion miles
Buses -.5 deaths per billion mile
Airplanes.5 deaths per billion miles
Cars - 4 deaths per billion miles
Space Shuttle - 7 deaths per billion miles (18 peopple total)
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Universities have spent many millions of dollars trying to give the snowflakes a crash course in becoming adults
That problem is solved now, universities get "safe spaces" and anti-microaggression lectures, lest some snowflakes melt.
I think next step would be to child proof the work places.
That's going to come to an end here, as the tyranny of the overly sensitive is getting a huge backlash as teh snowflakes demand that only thier oppression is allowed, and nothing they disagree with is allowed.
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macOS Sierra (10.12) does this - Twice recently it has just closed all applications and logged me out, randomly, with no warning. Last time was during an iMovie export, with ca 15 minutes left - had to re-run the export, after iMovie spent half an hour to check that its "database" is still valid.
Yeah, we use Apple computers too in this house-hold, but it is not problem free, not by a long stretch.
Sounds like a classic case of thecooling system needing cleaned.
I don't think you're a fool. Bought my wife a MBP last year. Our home is now Windows-free. No more "Honey, this update is taking forever, can't you do anything about it?" No more Windows Just Crapped Itself And Ate Her Report At 11PM on Sunday (and *of course* she has her semi-monthly department heads meeting at 9 the following morning...). And no more worries about what Windows is trying to pull with her data, and on my network. BLISS!!!
I thought I would resent having to pay too much for hardware that I know full well I can get for half the price. But after a year? Not a bit.
Best damn overpriced kit I ever forked out for, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Damn straight I would.
Having used both Mac and Windows machines since the early 90s - Not so much W 3.1 - My Macs lasted longer between 1.5 and 2 times longer to be precise. The only equipment problem I had was na Xserver that had the leaky cap issue, and Apple overnighted one to me. Also some iMacs were hit by that. But then a lot of Dells were too, so that's a wash. As well, whne performance was taken into account, the PC/Mac price divide got a lot narrower.
Then there was the update process. Pretty ugly on the Windows side. I managed to keep it at bay until W10 gave me no choice other than to defer the day of failure.
Nobody said the Millennials were harder working, just that the Baby Boomers were overly proud of an accomplishment that wasn't true.
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You'll notice that in my posts, I often write about my differences with my generation, regarding financial and social responsibility. I did not act like them. Yeah, a lot of us protested, especially the earlier ones. All generations ag through some issues when they are coming of age. Boomers, GenXer's, Milleniums are no different in that respect.
What is different is that altogether too many of the millennials, in my estimation as a result of well meaning but overprotective and poor parenting, are allowing themselves to fall into the trap of blaming their grandparents, not their parents, and not having the chutzpah to go out and take life by the horns.
Silly goose, states rights only matter on some issues and safety regulation isn't one thats something the feds should stop states from doing. State rights apply to things like human rights not things that could cost businesses money.
Actually, the states rights people tell us that anyhiing not speeled out in the constitution as a power to the federal guvmint is not allowed by the federal guvmint, therefore since autonomous cars are not mentioned, therefore it's a states rights issue.
Yeah, yer right - I'm being silly.
Another thing is those employers who appear to try hard to give themselves problems. Unpaid trial periods are a thing for some places, but they just do not seem to get that they are selecting for people who can afford not to work and can behave like the characters the GP is describing. However each time they get disappointed they go out of their way to discourage the sort of people who will work hard and stick around. The sort of employees they actually want look at the prospect of no money for a while and decide it's pointless when they are good enough that other employers will actually be paying them something elsewhere.
For what it's worth, we paid well, Market value for the area + reoughly 20 percent, we did 1.5 or 2 days per month vacation, unlimited sick leave, and maternity and paternity leave, a choice between defined contribution and defined benefit pension plan, as well as being able to take advantage of non-profit status for having multiple pension plans outside of the one's offered. Workplace longevity outside of the millenials was good. I was there over 30 years, and people actively tried to get employed there.
IOW almost everyone actually wanted to be employed there, and wanted to stay there and retire from there.
Except for the millennials. The had a horrible time fitting in, and most left to go back home after burning out. One possibility was that all workplaces have some shit ya gotta shovel. Not everything about the work was perfect. I had things I hated doing, and everyone did. But I'd conjecture that some of the younger folks fixated on the negative aspects of the work, and mom and dad couldn't swoop in and protect them from it.
And even though the millenials here see me as attacking them - I'm not. I'm attacking their parents who didn't add growing up to their growing up. A child can remain childlike through their entire life if you allow them to. These poor kids got through college before they had to become adults, and it is terribly hard on them.
And yet I see people half my age bust their asses around the work place all the time.
Either way, anecdotal evidence is garbage.
Y'all crack me up wih anecdotal evidenc is worthless bullshit. Everything is anecdotal evidence.
You are confusing data points with non truth. Allow me to make this clear to you. All of the exploding phones put out by samsung have not had a double blind rigourous testr process to teliminate all ofhter possibilities that eliminated every other possibility for the reports of them catching fire. This is truth.
NOw you are saying that every person that reported "My phone caught on fire is garbage, and means nothing. Each of those reports was an anecdote, therefore you in your wisdom can claim that there is no scientific evidence that SamSung S7 phones have any problem whatsoever, therefore thw batteries do not catch on fire.
All of the phones that burned up were not done under rigourous laboratory condition so any conclusions ore pointless, the phones are 100 percent safe.
So bullshit.
The Universities that have multiple instances of student's parents interfering with the university's functions, such as trying to have professors fired because the child didn't like them are get ready for this Anecdotal evidence, not proven by strict scientific studies. So in your jugement bullshit and garbage.
Here re some non scientific anecotal evident for ya Complete with a lot of references
http://www.law.uh.edu/ihelg/mo...
Total bullshit, you might say, as not each single anecdote which is garbage has not been totally proven. right? I mean you have to be rigorous right?
I have two finals things to say. My data points, of approximately 20 unsuccessful and semi successful 3 and 2 successful millenial candidates are just that. Data points that agree with a lot of other data points. And when a lot of data points agree with other data points, you are probably on to something.
And finally, give me the rigourous scientific proof that concludes that all anecdotes are garbage. otherwise you are just giving your opinion, and last time I checked, opinions are not necessarily the truth, and certainly not scientific proofs.
What do you mean "become"? They ARE the norm already in many cases. How many people actually have the money to move out? "Living in your mom's basement" may be the staple of nerd and neckbeard jokes, for some people it's the uncomfortable truth simply because they can't earn a wage high enough to afford their own apartment.
I dunno. My son is one of the millennials, and while we don't all have complete control over our progeny, He's married now, supporting himself and his wife and the twins. The wife and I are generous to them, but even if we didn't, they'd do just fine.
Seeing the problems that the helicopter parents were instilling, I made certain that he had exposure to the time to interact with other kids in a setting where an adult wasn't correcting every problem. He got to learn how to deal with problems. He also got to learn how to be self reliant, which went a log way toward getting and keeping a job and supporting himself. His first jobs weren't in his field, and his first place wasn't lavish by far. But as time goes on, he moves up. That's pretty much how I did it too. The goal is the goal, not the starting place.
"Ayn chadash tachat hashemesh" --- there is nothing new under the sun.
What language is that? Sounds cool at any rate.
Andto be certain, my actual complaint isn't about the millenials, its about their parents who screwed them up. The millenials get pissed at me because their upbringing doesn't allow for criticism, so they hear something not completely positive and it enrages them.
And before the next wave of the shitstorm arrives, kids, of course the whole issue is dealing in generalizations.
Those bicyclists and motorcyclist and walking deaths you're citing as being so much bigger than car deaths are mostly killed by cars.
True. But seriously - note that my response was pointing out that using the safest by miles travelled is a strange metric to use. Y'all disagreeing with me are inadvertantly proving my point.
Anecdotes? Whoa there, buddy, you're argument about a few people is clearly statistically significant! I guess we should discard what scientists say because it doesn't seem right to you.
Its a data point, and one shared by others. It's shared as well by universities, who are spending that money to retrain students and especially their parents
You want references? Need data? Of course in social matters what constitutes data is ephemeral but here goes:
http://counseling.uoregon.edu/...
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://news.fsu.edu/news/educa...
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/web/pag...
I can give you hundreds more, so label Universities as trolls and call each one irrelevant.
My anecdotes - and I can give you more - merely corroborate the larger experience. Point is, young adults come out with unrealistic expectations, have not been allowed to grow up and have trouble making their own decisions, and are prone to depression and disappointment, and their parents are the cause.
They are damaged goods, and will need a decade of trying to sort out what they should have learned since childhood. Don't blame your grandparents, and don't blame yourselves. But blame only goes so far, so ya gotta pick yourselves up and move on.
You mean that we have the expectation that people we pay to work for us should, you know, work for us? What we need them to do? Yeah, I have to admit, we kinda do have that sort of expectation.
I think that part of the self esteem movement has inadvertently inculcated some of the youngsters with the idea that they are to be lavishly rewarded for minimal output. When you are constantly praised for simple tasks like tying your shoes, actual work demands a parade in your honor. I had one young lady who took several months vacation (mostly unpaid since she accrued it at a day and a half per month) in the first year, spent hours a day on facebook, when given work tried to assign it to the older folks, and was expecting a promotion after a year. Didn't get it, so she quit and moved in with Grams and Gramps.
At least that kept us from having to fire her.
The millennials intrinsically know the game is rigged against them.
Wah!
Oh, and every generation invented sex too. The game is rigged, and has been for a long time. When I first entered the workforce, the "common knowledge" was that there was no point in saving for retirement, inflation and jeebuz chryste we were all gonna die when the bombs are a-flyin overhead. So our go-go generation largely screwed itself over by acting in their own worst interests down the road.
The only thing not in short supply for so many of you is self pity. My generation had it as well, with the young males looking forward to involuntary conscription and the chance to get fucked up or killed in southeast Asia. You have to worry about being out of cell phone range.
Go to school and have a 50\50 shot of coming out of it with a good enough job to pay off the debt, work 2 to 4 jobs and try to move up in the world without an education and try to move up at a good company, or stay at home with Mom and Dad. Those are your choices.
Bullshit on the second, but let's back up a little.. The cost of education is a true problem that young people - actually everyone - have today. After decades of belittling anything but a 4 year college degree, where a bachelor's degree in philosophy or womyn's studies was touted as superior to a machinist, plumber or other blue collar work, and the willingness of people to pay for the worthless fields of study, we've reached the endstage where the economics are not there.
But even there, you don't have to play the game if you are willing to think for yourself. Way back whne in the early 70's against the demands of my high school advosors, and even a sit down with the principle and cautions sent to my parents, I took both academic and vocational (electronics) majors in High School. Served me well throughout life.
Have a male child today, what's his chances of procreating? 50\50. You tell me how you're going to manage that many impoverished, pissed off, and heavily armed men.
That's a social construct, definitely not one made by my generation. Its the overshoot of the feminist movement, where young ladies have been taught that sexual harassment is almost anything they don't like. https://www.bustle.com/article...
Where a wolf whistle is accorded the same level of seriousness as full blown sexual assault.
That posters comment is just one.
Meh, people have been telling me to die in a fire since I was in grade school. Don't act like millennials invented raging.
Pew researches studies on marriage and rates people are having kids are pretty conclusive here if you care to look.
And I agree. Even way back when, I put my limit at 1 offspring. After that it was snip snip.
There's millions of people who are stark raving mad, just like the above poster. They are enjoying what time they have left before an economic crash or collapse. 2nded the bullet in the head comment. 100% what millennials feel about how they've been fucked over.
Oh golly gosh. Your attitude is characteristic of how millenials have been fucked over, but not in the way you think it is.
Raised by parents who might have been well meaning, but have done immense damage to you by not allowing you to grow up. I've seen millennial children in diapers until they started preschool, as their parents tried to slow the growing up process. I've seen millennial children not have a free moment among themselves as they were shuffled off from one lesson, sport or camp, always under the strict supervision of an adult. Never an unsupervised moment. Then it was made worse by the self esteem movement, where children were taught they, the singular chi
The solution to all of society's problems is to fucking string you up and put a bullet in your head, capitalist pig.
And you're a millennial, probably.
Per mile is kind of disengenuous. What happens when you do it per trip or per hour of travel? Also, by your own numbers, plane travel is nearly 10 times safer than automobile travel. So there is plenty of room for improvement.
Or number of total trips, or survivors per accident? Or passenger miles, or by television coverage or day of the week? Does anyone note that the original post I replied to was by mile, so I replied by mile?
While I tend to believe that train travel is pretty darn safe, space shuttle flight is skewed by the fact that once achieving orbit, you are travelling somewhere around 17,500 miles per hour once in orbit, so racking up the miles at a prodigious pace.
It wouldn't stop me from tiding in one, but big kablooey things like rockets aren't terribly safe.
According to your statistics, the space shuttle is only slightly more dangerous than driving in a car and less dangerous than a ferry, which is obvious nonsense.
Whoosh!
So that mommy that wants to come in for little precious's job interview or the guy working for me that told me in no uncertain terms that he doesn't answer teh telephone but only takes texts or the young lady who thought that facebook was part of her job and took off two months the first 6 months she worked and then all but one of them quit and moved back in with mommy and daddy (except teh one who moved in with Grams and Grampy and the ones who tried to get their bosses fired by calling mommy and dady who called the Director, are all just outliers?
I had two who worked out well, and even one of those ended up moving to be closer to Mums and Pops.
What happened was the snowflakes got a tast of reality, where every decision wasn't made by their helicoptering parents, and are now trying to make up for wasted teenage years of emotional development.
Universities have spent many millions of dollars trying to give the snowflakes a crash course in becoming adults And I don't blame the kids either. Their parents were the cause, and mumsy and popsy should be strung up for not allowing their children to grow up.
Yeah, my office isn't a boat in the middle of a lake so I can't take the ferry there.
And driving should be safer regardless of where it ranks in the list of transportation modes.
And I don't ride buses either. What's your point? I just went through the safest modes of transportation by miles traveled.
I'm glad they mentioned it didn't include Chromebooks, which have sold like hotcakes. They can't do everything, but can do a lot of what average people need...and they are relatively cheap. It's all I take with me when I go to clients or on vacation...well, that and my smartphone.
I also have a Chromebook that I take with me when I don't want my expensive computers in harms way. It dual boots Linux as well. Nice little computers. And it has never not worked for me.
The times are changing. This is not the day of escape codes and if you get the computer to print landscape you have been a success. Some of us demand that the device work the next morning when it worked the day before.
And Win10 fails that miserably, and just isn't ready for primetime, or much else. It's the Trabant of operating systems.
I want to but a new PC laptop too, but it has to run Win7, because just like W8, I won't own another with shitware on it. Been out looking, but of course, no one local is selling a new laptop with an actual working operating system, like W7.
If you are a Costco member they are currently selling an HP Envy 15t with an i7 and a 1080p display preloaded with Windows 7. I'd buy one myself but I need a discrete GPU.
Cool - thank you,
A fool and his money i guess
Nope. A guy who needs uptime. Windows 10 doesn't remotely provide the uptime. I have a Windows 7 system that hasn't had a problem in a year and a half now. I abandoned W10 after it turned computers into a steaming pile of no worky, the third time with the Anniversary update.
The Mac? just works, Not much else I need to say about it. Gets an update and installs it only when I tell it to install it, not when Apple decides to install it like they do with Windows 10
But if you want to think I'm a fool, you just go right ahead, coward, you just go right ahead.
Given that they force you to buy 8 channels of dreck just to get the one channel you want, it's not surprising. One of the many reasons why I cut the cord.
Lets see the utter pile of shit there is available:
Some 50 shows where sassy women sit around and yap and fight with each other.
Another bunch where people sing more or less the same music to win prizes.
Stupid dancing programs where professional athletes always win over some star or presidential candidates tramp daughter because they're professional athletes.
Shows where yuppies pretend to be rednecks and encourage pedophilia
Shows where superior people pop dozens of larvae out of a clown car vagina, and stand up for one of them being a pedophile.
Strange shows with really weid looking guys with weird looking hair and stuff, but with wives who are oddly attractive.
Shows where peope who never met each other sign a contract to marry each other.
Marriage saving shows for kooks
Must be a million shows about people in Alaska.
"Science" shows where humans are stupid, and apparently every advancement in history was made by aliens.
My better half watches some old reruns and court TV, so I see the ads for the weirdo shows.
Then there are the commercials Sue this person sue that medicine company, Suee everyone. If you win an annuity in your suit, there's another company that will give you a lump sum if you give tehm the annuity.
So I'm left with cartoon channel, and The Science channel, and HBO.
Otherwise, its Youtube science and space/airplane vids. I can't be the only one who watches less than 1% of their crap.
This isn't a law. It's sour grapes on California's part for losing Toyota.
You against the rights of teh individual state to pass laws that are not provided to the federal Government by the constitution?
States rights baby, it isn't just to make mandatory carry and flying of the confederate flag the law.
And Toyota is completely free to ignore it and not sell their vehicles in California.. The marketplace. If you don't like onerous regulations, refuse to sell Toyotas to California citizens. And not a regulation at all to hinder you.
Spoilers: Toyota
And it seems like a States Rights issue to me. If Toyota doesn't want to sell their cars in Callyforniay, they are completely free to not do just that.
Problem solved.
I'm sure you'd agree that autopilot system testing by the FAA is too onerous also. Flying is the safest form of travel, but everyone doesn't use it because it is expensive. Part of the reason it is expensive is because of all the regulations aircraft have to comply with. By eliminating testing. the price will come down, more people will take planes and helicopters everywhere and even more lives will be saved.
Interesting that you use flying as an example. Here is a list of the safest ways to travel: Trains - .2 deaths per billion miles
Buses - .5 deaths per billion mile
Airplanes .5 deaths per billion miles
Cars - 4 deaths per billion miles
Space Shuttle - 7 deaths per billion miles (18 peopple total)
Ferries - 20 deaths per billion miles
Bicycles - 35 deaths per billion miles
Walking 41 deaths per billion miles
Motorcycles - 125 deaths per billion miles
source - http://961theeagle.com/what-is...
So we gotta robotize the 4th safest method of travel?