Trying to roll back the existing non-functional computer computer and get it working right again also has an unknown outcome, involves an unknown amount of downtime, and unknown total cost. Telling her customers "I can take care of you in two hours, after my new computer is set up" is definitely less costly to her business than telling them "I don't know when I'll be able to get back to you. My computer is in the shop. Maybe it'll be fixed today, maybe tomorrow, maybe Wednesday".
Sounds like a pretty good business plan for the manufacturers and Microsoft. Fuck someone's computer up, and if they don't buy a new one, its their own damn fault.
A site for many things. And sometimes people with small businesses, that might not come with an IT department and servers.
I think the major element in the whole discussion is that Microsoft has now become a malware vendor, and the OS has many locked into getting the malware, as well as W7 users getting forced updates. And since not everyone is behind a server farm or have a team of IT people protecting them, It is a little strange to try to say that a forced update that bricks the user's computer is their own fault.
So stop it! Stop with the idea that everything Microsoft does is fscking awesome and without fail, and that all problems are the users. It is hard to argue that a small business owner or home computer system is at fault for their system operating one day, then bricked the next.
And even if we do accept that all problems are the users fault, it makes the OS a bit less desirable.
the history of Europe is full of them killing each other.
The history of the WORLD is about people killing each other. Over politics. Fashion. Religion and worshiping the wrong god. Worshiping the right god in the wrong way. Speaking a funny language. Etc. Saying that Europe has a history of killing each other can't be used as a logical argument for anything, since that's pretty much the base state of all humanity anyway.
But you see, there is an interesting thing going on. We dumb 'Murricans are subject to a constant stream of European superiority statements, and oour warlike ways.
And yes, for sheer inhumanity against other Humans, no one bets the Europeans. I recall one particular exercise when they managed to slow down population growth in the mid 20th century.
As the EU continues on its inevitible collapse, the skids are greasing for the next one.
I'm claiming Irish citizenship through a reverse agreement. Anyone born on the island before 2005 can claim it. On a darker note, I didn't say it would bring peace. If anything it will inflame tensions in NI. Source : From NI
You'd better check your sources. Ireland's Citizenship referendum ended Irish citizenship by birth in 2005 after a campaign reminiscent of UKIP's xenophobic frothing at the mouth.
The media has a tendency to turn a birds fart into disaster.
As a proud parrot owner, I can tell you that a bird farting usually means disaster. Whenever she farts, it usually means she has diarrhea. Trying to get that stuff off the carpets is not a joke.
I always thought that was a parrot's version of Rocket Assisted Take Off.
Cameron wasn't against the idea of a EU army, he said he'd support it as long as other countries paid their fair share towards it. Understandable since we have a higher military budget.
Very good reason to leave IMO, along with the democratic argument.
As well, when the next European War starts, it can be against nations rather than a civil war. And before someone marks me as troll, the history of Europe is full of them killing each other. I suspect after the EU eventually collapses, it will happen again.
Which shows that millennials in large numbers are extremely materialistic, but don't want to work.
Bizzare that a link to a real study is marked as a troll? For the abstract:
We examined whether culture-level indices of threat, instability, and materialistic modeling were linked to the materialistic values of American 12th graders between 1976 and 2007 (N = 355,296). Youth materialism (such as the importance of money and of owning expensive material items) increased over the generations, peaking in the late 1980s to early 1990s with Generation X and then staying at historically high levels for Millennials (GenMe). Societal instability and disconnection (e.g., unemployment, divorce) and social modeling (e.g., advertising spending) had both contemporaneous and lagged associations with higher levels of materialism, with advertising most influential during adolescence and instability during childhood. Societal-level living standards during childhood predicted materialism 10 years later. When materialistic values increased, work centrality steadily declined, suggesting a growing discrepancy between the desire for material rewards and the willingness to do the work usually required to earn them.
Troll or not - deal with it. Perhaps a new mod point is needed - I don't like the truth -5
condoms aren't a medication that intentionally changes the biological function of the person using them.
However, today's women are living a lifestyle that is a huge change from natural biological functioning. Many years ago, a woman was often pregnant or nursing most of her adult life, until menopause - if she lived that long.
Women today go through many many more menses than is natural.
Oddly enough, birth control pills mimic the more natural state. Despite the warnings, which I suspect are put there to satisfy the puritanical - kind of like whenever they find that alcohol in moderation is beneficial, they have to add that scientists are trying to find the miracle ingredient in grapes or barley.
I'd lol except it isn't at all funny that someone so ignorant and stupid and enslaved by the State is allowed to vote and otherwise express their uneducated spoon fed factless opinion.
Let's see how far you are willing to use that logic.
I believe that you have a credible possibility of carrying out terrorist acts. You already have all the equipment to do so, so you certainly must be planning on murdering as many people as possible.
You might be basing your belief on non-credible information. I have no criminal record, and no signs of instability. On the other hand, Did you know the Orlando shooter tried to purchase 1000 rounds of ammo and high grade body armor a month before he went on the rampage?
You might say hindsight is 20/20, but sorry. The gun shop owner was very suspicious of hime, and called the FBI after he left the shop. Considering the fellow was already under investigation, and now attempts a purchase that particular stuff has very little explanation other than he planned on getting shot at in the near future.
That's exactly the type of person who sholdn't be allowed to have an AR-15.
The right question is why these devices need security in the first place. Why are they routable from the Internet?
Because they consume and produce medical information about the patient, which in turn need to be transferred to wherever the patient receives medical attention next, sometimes in a hurry.
The clearest case of this dilemma are the boring terminals used for handling patient records: Full and unhindered access is critical to proper treatment, but they also provide just about the most hefty lump of sensitive personal data you can find.
The thing that is strange is that I've built nicely functioning systems with networking that are miles from internet access. I handle the updates via USB, and while it's possible of course to compromise an air gapped network, all of the activity is logged to let me know if anything odd is happening. Then when I need to gather the data, I sneakernet it to the computers that are on the toobz.
And yes, I do realize that if someone really really really wanted to, they could probably get past it. But that is allowing perfect to be the enemy of really really really good.
Not to mention, thanks to HIPAA and the need to be able to send electronic billing and receive electronic remittance notices and be ordered to be able to check insurance eligibility, our systems MUST face the Internet.
Next time, have a clue before you open your mouth.
Well then, y'all simply accept that you will be compromised. If doctors hace to have password1 as their password because people will die, and if there is absolutely no way that a system can be constructed without the equipment having no choice but to be on the toobz, and at the same time allow passowrd1, then you just sit back and wait for the inevitable.
Sucks to be you, because the fickle finger of damnation is gonna point right at ya. Have you considered a job somewhere else?
If you forget a password, someone may die right in front of you.
If we didn't connect the damn things to the intertoobz, perhaps a password might not be needed at all.
But the hospital as the proving grounds of the Internet of Things, just shows that if you need an easy password to save lives, bad guys can use that easy passwork to kill people.
One needs to understand the word 'regulated' as it applies to the amendment, when it was written. Some people mistakenly think it refers only to gov't organized military.
Right, everything needs interpreted. But I look at militia as a militia, consisting of citizens, not necessarily the official military. But that regulated part probably means that they did expect some regulation, not the concept of selling arms to people hwo are expected to use those arms against the rest of the citizenry.
If you deserve to use firearms, then by all means. If you don't, you shouldn't. I don't think that people that have a credible possibility of carrying out terrorist acts should be allowed access to firearms. Others believe that they do.
Oh yeah -I was being sort of a smartass. All manufacturers have introduced products that for one reason or another don't work. Microsoft Zune, Windows Phone, Vista, Windows 8, and original Surface. Apple has Lisa, Newton, the hockey puck Mouse. And now the Thunderbolt monitors.
The issue re Thunderbolt as I saw it was expense. The price of the monitors wasn't all that far from the price of the computers. For my iMac, I just bought an adapter and plumbed a regular 27 inch monitor onto it for the second monitor. I suspect many others did as well.
Uh, gun ownership and use is a right. It applies to civilians. It's a civil right.
Well, to be specific, the rtified second amendments states:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Seing as how that is one sentence, it probably refers as much to the militia as to individual people.
But here is the tough part - "A well Regulated militia". Does this mean that anything but the militias are to be completely unregulated". This is where I think some organizations go wrong.
As a firearm owner and user, I do not see any issues with suspected terrorists not being permitted to own firearms. Why? Because I believe that the "well regulated militia" portion of the second amendment is rather important as it sets the framework for what comes afterwards.
I suspect that if they wanted no restraints they would have made the second amendment as follows:
"Congress shall enact no regulations denying fully free and unfetterd access to the public defense, and the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed upon."
And this is why it is becoming increasingly difficult to support the NRA, and the Congresscritters that they own.
And of course, knowing the rather over the top reactions in here that happen after anyone dares to suggest anything other than allowing anyone no matter their inclination, with free and full access to firearms, This might be the first time in Sashdot history that a person who is a gun owner and user quotes the Second amendment and then gets modded as a troll.
There is an alternative. Microsoft, who has never discontinued anything, and their next failed piece of hardware will be their first.
And before you mark me as a troll, consider this
From the summary......
So, bought into the whole Thunderbolt monitor thing from Apple? Might want to collect a few right now, while you still can. It appears that the Thunderbolt monitor is going the way of the analog [headphone] jack over at Apple. Isn't it fun to be part of an unsuccessful experiment?
So it looks like Slashdot has gone full troll itself.
Agnostician don't know. Perhaps there's a god, perhaps there's not - anyway, it is pointless to discuss without evidences. There's no place for "believing" on agnosticism.
So they don't believe that they do not know? The do not believe what they believe. They do not believe that they do not know.
I fear that you are trying to apply different definitions to belief, in one case completely dismissing a belief because it is convenient for whatever you are trying to argue.
Everybody will die someday, so everybody will see it (if it's true), or just ceasing to exist without knowing it (if it's not).
What's different from the view of the Atheists - these ones *do believe* that there's no God, even by not being able to prove it. It's exactly the same psychological posture from the Theists, the only difference is that these last ones do believe there's a God, even by not being able to prove it.
If something can not be proved, no one can know about it. Just believe on it. In this approach, Atheists and Theists are on the same side.
Except for the poor agnostics, who apparently cannot believe something that everyone else would declare as belief. Word smithing, nothing more. One person belives in th eFlying Spaghetti Onstor, and has faith that upon their death, Fine hookers and beer volcanos await them if they've lived as the FSM wishes. The belief is their faith.
Those who aren't certain if there is a flying Spaghetti Monster believe that they don't know. Maybe it exists, maybe not.
Atheists toward the FSM believe the FLying Spaghetti Monster was made up as a deity as an example of a fake religion.
And people who never heard of him are the only ones who don't have a belief, because they don't know.
And in the beginning, this was an attempt to claiim that atheism is a religion. It isn't, and when people try to turn it into "religion" they have to perform silly gyrations, like your claiming that agnostics don't believe what they believe.
Which is all to say, I belive that there is no flying spaghetti moster is real, and that it is not deity. I suspect you don't ether. And that makes us atheists toward the FSM. But you apparently would call my atheism toward the FSM my religion? Weeeeoo - that makes both us us have thousands of religions.
So tell me bro, would you put I Robot on your resume as proof of your knowledge? Bro?
I watched Star Trek as a young boy, That was enough to get a pHD in physics.
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Trying to roll back the existing non-functional computer computer and get it working right again also has an unknown outcome, involves an unknown amount of downtime, and unknown total cost. Telling her customers "I can take care of you in two hours, after my new computer is set up" is definitely less costly to her business than telling them "I don't know when I'll be able to get back to you. My computer is in the shop. Maybe it'll be fixed today, maybe tomorrow, maybe Wednesday".
Sounds like a pretty good business plan for the manufacturers and Microsoft. Fuck someone's computer up, and if they don't buy a new one, its their own damn fault.
This is a site for IT, still, yes?
A site for many things. And sometimes people with small businesses, that might not come with an IT department and servers.
I think the major element in the whole discussion is that Microsoft has now become a malware vendor, and the OS has many locked into getting the malware, as well as W7 users getting forced updates. And since not everyone is behind a server farm or have a team of IT people protecting them, It is a little strange to try to say that a forced update that bricks the user's computer is their own fault.
So stop it! Stop with the idea that everything Microsoft does is fscking awesome and without fail, and that all problems are the users. It is hard to argue that a small business owner or home computer system is at fault for their system operating one day, then bricked the next.
And even if we do accept that all problems are the users fault, it makes the OS a bit less desirable.
the history of Europe is full of them killing each other.
The history of the WORLD is about people killing each other. Over politics. Fashion. Religion and worshiping the wrong god. Worshiping the right god in the wrong way. Speaking a funny language. Etc. Saying that Europe has a history of killing each other can't be used as a logical argument for anything, since that's pretty much the base state of all humanity anyway.
But you see, there is an interesting thing going on. We dumb 'Murricans are subject to a constant stream of European superiority statements, and oour warlike ways.
And yes, for sheer inhumanity against other Humans, no one bets the Europeans. I recall one particular exercise when they managed to slow down population growth in the mid 20th century.
As the EU continues on its inevitible collapse, the skids are greasing for the next one.
I'm claiming Irish citizenship through a reverse agreement. Anyone born on the island before 2005 can claim it. On a darker note, I didn't say it would bring peace. If anything it will inflame tensions in NI. Source : From NI
You'd better check your sources. Ireland's Citizenship referendum ended Irish citizenship by birth in 2005 after a campaign reminiscent of UKIP's xenophobic frothing at the mouth.
The real reason was Family Guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
(Peter meets his Irish Father)
The media has a tendency to turn a birds fart into disaster.
As a proud parrot owner, I can tell you that a bird farting usually means disaster. Whenever she farts, it usually means she has diarrhea. Trying to get that stuff off the carpets is not a joke.
I always thought that was a parrot's version of Rocket Assisted Take Off.
Cameron wasn't against the idea of a EU army, he said he'd support it as long as other countries paid their fair share towards it. Understandable since we have a higher military budget.
Very good reason to leave IMO, along with the democratic argument.
As well, when the next European War starts, it can be against nations rather than a civil war. And before someone marks me as troll, the history of Europe is full of them killing each other. I suspect after the EU eventually collapses, it will happen again.
Quite sad how pensioners get to decide the future of the next generation against their wishes.
Because while retired, they still have a better work ethic than millennials http://psp.sagepub.com/content...
Which shows that millennials in large numbers are extremely materialistic, but don't want to work.
Bizzare that a link to a real study is marked as a troll? For the abstract:
We examined whether culture-level indices of threat, instability, and materialistic modeling were linked to the materialistic values of American 12th graders between 1976 and 2007 (N = 355,296). Youth materialism (such as the importance of money and of owning expensive material items) increased over the generations, peaking in the late 1980s to early 1990s with Generation X and then staying at historically high levels for Millennials (GenMe). Societal instability and disconnection (e.g., unemployment, divorce) and social modeling (e.g., advertising spending) had both contemporaneous and lagged associations with higher levels of materialism, with advertising most influential during adolescence and instability during childhood. Societal-level living standards during childhood predicted materialism 10 years later. When materialistic values increased, work centrality steadily declined, suggesting a growing discrepancy between the desire for material rewards and the willingness to do the work usually required to earn them.
Troll or not - deal with it. Perhaps a new mod point is needed - I don't like the truth -5
condoms aren't a medication that intentionally changes the biological function of the person using them.
However, today's women are living a lifestyle that is a huge change from natural biological functioning. Many years ago, a woman was often pregnant or nursing most of her adult life, until menopause - if she lived that long.
Women today go through many many more menses than is natural.
Oddly enough, birth control pills mimic the more natural state. Despite the warnings, which I suspect are put there to satisfy the puritanical - kind of like whenever they find that alcohol in moderation is beneficial, they have to add that scientists are trying to find the miracle ingredient in grapes or barley.
Big difference between how they want and how they should.
Possibly, but most people don't like it when you go all Leviticus on them.
I'd lol except it isn't at all funny that someone so ignorant and stupid and enslaved by the State is allowed to vote and otherwise express their uneducated spoon fed factless opinion.
Yeah, but they let you vote anyway.
Let's see how far you are willing to use that logic. I believe that you have a credible possibility of carrying out terrorist acts. You already have all the equipment to do so, so you certainly must be planning on murdering as many people as possible.
You might be basing your belief on non-credible information. I have no criminal record, and no signs of instability. On the other hand, Did you know the Orlando shooter tried to purchase 1000 rounds of ammo and high grade body armor a month before he went on the rampage?
You might say hindsight is 20/20, but sorry. The gun shop owner was very suspicious of hime, and called the FBI after he left the shop. Considering the fellow was already under investigation, and now attempts a purchase that particular stuff has very little explanation other than he planned on getting shot at in the near future.
That's exactly the type of person who sholdn't be allowed to have an AR-15.
The right question is why these devices need security in the first place. Why are they routable from the Internet?
Because they consume and produce medical information about the patient, which in turn need to be transferred to wherever the patient receives medical attention next, sometimes in a hurry.
The clearest case of this dilemma are the boring terminals used for handling patient records: Full and unhindered access is critical to proper treatment, but they also provide just about the most hefty lump of sensitive personal data you can find.
The thing that is strange is that I've built nicely functioning systems with networking that are miles from internet access. I handle the updates via USB, and while it's possible of course to compromise an air gapped network, all of the activity is logged to let me know if anything odd is happening. Then when I need to gather the data, I sneakernet it to the computers that are on the toobz.
And yes, I do realize that if someone really really really wanted to, they could probably get past it. But that is allowing perfect to be the enemy of really really really good.
Not to mention, thanks to HIPAA and the need to be able to send electronic billing and receive electronic remittance notices and be ordered to be able to check insurance eligibility, our systems MUST face the Internet.
Next time, have a clue before you open your mouth.
Well then, y'all simply accept that you will be compromised. If doctors hace to have password1 as their password because people will die, and if there is absolutely no way that a system can be constructed without the equipment having no choice but to be on the toobz, and at the same time allow passowrd1, then you just sit back and wait for the inevitable.
Sucks to be you, because the fickle finger of damnation is gonna point right at ya. Have you considered a job somewhere else?
If you forget a password, someone may die right in front of you.
If we didn't connect the damn things to the intertoobz, perhaps a password might not be needed at all.
But the hospital as the proving grounds of the Internet of Things, just shows that if you need an easy password to save lives, bad guys can use that easy passwork to kill people.
One needs to understand the word 'regulated' as it applies to the amendment, when it was written. Some people mistakenly think it refers only to gov't organized military.
Right, everything needs interpreted. But I look at militia as a militia, consisting of citizens, not necessarily the official military. But that regulated part probably means that they did expect some regulation, not the concept of selling arms to people hwo are expected to use those arms against the rest of the citizenry.
If you deserve to use firearms, then by all means. If you don't, you shouldn't. I don't think that people that have a credible possibility of carrying out terrorist acts should be allowed access to firearms. Others believe that they do.
it's the only fair compensation for having been ruled by Britain
Nah that's like the "reparations" garbage.
Nah that's more like punishment!
Imagine me like the one lady Chicken in "Chicken Run" saying: "But I don't want to be a British citizen!"
Quite sad how pensioners get to decide the future of the next generation against their wishes.
Because while retired, they still have a better work ethic than millennials http://psp.sagepub.com/content...
Which shows that millennials in large numbers are extremely materialistic, but don't want to work.
or sexy, I am confused by kim, zune, stairway to heaven, and spirit.
Once we pegged the oh gotcha, Snorkles fell to the wayside and spleggers!
Are you not entertained, Pinky?
2004-2008 SPOT Smartwatch 2006-2012 Zune 2012-2015 Kinect for Windows 2010-soon Windows Phone
Yup, looks like I missed a couple in my reply to the other guy.
Zune.
Oh yeah -I was being sort of a smartass. All manufacturers have introduced products that for one reason or another don't work. Microsoft Zune, Windows Phone, Vista, Windows 8, and original Surface. Apple has Lisa, Newton, the hockey puck Mouse. And now the Thunderbolt monitors.
The issue re Thunderbolt as I saw it was expense. The price of the monitors wasn't all that far from the price of the computers. For my iMac, I just bought an adapter and plumbed a regular 27 inch monitor onto it for the second monitor. I suspect many others did as well.
Uh, gun ownership and use is a right. It applies to civilians. It's a civil right.
Well, to be specific, the rtified second amendments states:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Seing as how that is one sentence, it probably refers as much to the militia as to individual people.
But here is the tough part - "A well Regulated militia". Does this mean that anything but the militias are to be completely unregulated". This is where I think some organizations go wrong.
As a firearm owner and user, I do not see any issues with suspected terrorists not being permitted to own firearms. Why? Because I believe that the "well regulated militia" portion of the second amendment is rather important as it sets the framework for what comes afterwards.
I suspect that if they wanted no restraints they would have made the second amendment as follows:
"Congress shall enact no regulations denying fully free and unfetterd access to the public defense, and the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed upon."
And this is why it is becoming increasingly difficult to support the NRA, and the Congresscritters that they own.
And of course, knowing the rather over the top reactions in here that happen after anyone dares to suggest anything other than allowing anyone no matter their inclination, with free and full access to firearms, This might be the first time in Sashdot history that a person who is a gun owner and user quotes the Second amendment and then gets modded as a troll.
...the NRA did a thorough investigation, and didn't find a conservative bias.
National Rifle Association founded in 1871. Are you referring to the the oldest civil rights group in america?
You mean the one that supports selling weapons people on the no fly list as likely trsts?
Quickly, explain why you support selling weapons s to them.
And before you mark me as a troll, consider this
From the summary...... So, bought into the whole Thunderbolt monitor thing from Apple? Might want to collect a few right now, while you still can. It appears that the Thunderbolt monitor is going the way of the analog [headphone] jack over at Apple. Isn't it fun to be part of an unsuccessful experiment?
So it looks like Slashdot has gone full troll itself.
Wrong again. The key word is "believe".
Agnostician don't know. Perhaps there's a god, perhaps there's not - anyway, it is pointless to discuss without evidences. There's no place for "believing" on agnosticism.
So they don't believe that they do not know? The do not believe what they believe. They do not believe that they do not know.
I fear that you are trying to apply different definitions to belief, in one case completely dismissing a belief because it is convenient for whatever you are trying to argue.
Everybody will die someday, so everybody will see it (if it's true), or just ceasing to exist without knowing it (if it's not).
What's different from the view of the Atheists - these ones *do believe* that there's no God, even by not being able to prove it. It's exactly the same psychological posture from the Theists, the only difference is that these last ones do believe there's a God, even by not being able to prove it.
If something can not be proved, no one can know about it. Just believe on it. In this approach, Atheists and Theists are on the same side.
Except for the poor agnostics, who apparently cannot believe something that everyone else would declare as belief. Word smithing, nothing more. One person belives in th eFlying Spaghetti Onstor, and has faith that upon their death, Fine hookers and beer volcanos await them if they've lived as the FSM wishes. The belief is their faith.
Those who aren't certain if there is a flying Spaghetti Monster believe that they don't know. Maybe it exists, maybe not.
Atheists toward the FSM believe the FLying Spaghetti Monster was made up as a deity as an example of a fake religion.
And people who never heard of him are the only ones who don't have a belief, because they don't know.
And in the beginning, this was an attempt to claiim that atheism is a religion. It isn't, and when people try to turn it into "religion" they have to perform silly gyrations, like your claiming that agnostics don't believe what they believe.
Which is all to say, I belive that there is no flying spaghetti moster is real, and that it is not deity. I suspect you don't ether. And that makes us atheists toward the FSM. But you apparently would call my atheism toward the FSM my religion? Weeeeoo - that makes both us us have thousands of religions.
That is called "Science", bro.
So tell me bro, would you put I Robot on your resume as proof of your knowledge? Bro? I watched Star Trek as a young boy, That was enough to get a pHD in physics.