"Why is it that climate change discussions always ends up in the same place... the government"
I don't know about "always", but here's some stuff to chew on. The military. The only part of the guvmint that deniers actually like.
The military understands and accepts that AGW, or even plain old GW happens, and is happening. And they are concerned, to say the least. Long before Miami is underwater, shifting weather patterns are going to change simple stuff like water resource availability. Which will destabilize the areas that are hit with the shortages first, then the humans will start fighting each others, their neighbors, those who have the resources. So they gotta plan for it.
Even outside the military, who else ya gonna call?
Business doesn't care about anything except in three month chunks. If it doesn't affect the next quarterly, it doesn't exist.
The dominant religion in our part of the globe actually wants the world to end, and even if that doesn't happen, thrives on disaster so they can claim God is punishing us sinners.
The hardest part about visiting Vatican City is waiting in long lines to enter the museums. Well, maybe also protecting your stuff against pickpockets.
And protecting your children's junk against Priests.
And when your body has a little glitch, you are yesterday's garbage.
The problem such as it is, is that you think a stroke is a "little glitch"
Your apocryphal story might have a little more insight if his job caused him to have the stroke. Alas, people who never worked a day in their life, or people who won't let da man take advantage of them, also have these "little glitches".
You are projecting your dislike of giving any extra upon this man. Was he happy while working? Probably a lot happier thanafter having a stroke, which cut his work hours down to 0, which in your logic, should have made him happy.
In the end, if you have a stroke - will your working as few hours as possible beforehand make you happier than he is now?
It's not just work, I know the same thing applies to sports and just about everything people do. Especially as you become good at something it draws you in and you want to go further and get better. Success at something is in a real sense addictive. Eventually you get to the point Robert Heinlein described as: "There is no way to stop. Writers go on writing long after it becomes financially unnecessary... because it hurts less to write than it does not to write."
Its a passion. And fortunately probably 95 percent of us don't have one. And that really isn't a bad thing. Altogether too many people are told "Just follow your passion, and you will be happy". That's bullshit.
Most people are like what you see in here in Slashdot. THey don't like their jobs,they don't want to give a moment's extra time because they believe that is harming them somehow. And they have all manner of platitudes for people who do. ike "They have no family life" "They die as soon as they retire", and other nonsense.
When in reality, they simply lack passion And they are being shortchanged by those hwo tell tehm to follow what they don't have.
Because passion is like a white hot pillar of flame - you often have no real choice. I've always been pretty passionate about my work. Trying to stay away from it would be no good. As noted before, I often dream the soutions to problems. Just the way my mind works. What you have to do is make it work for you.
But for the majority that have no passion, they shouldn't act like they have the inside lane into happiness. They don't. I'm probably happier than 95 percent of slashdotters. Although some days, that isn't saying much - for them.
Very much this. The worst enemy of freedom (and free time) are happy, stupid slaves. It also takes a very limited mind to not have any real interests outside of what your bosses tell you to work on.
Another false dilemma. I have had a lot of hobbies before and since retirement. Yet I worked a lot of extra hours without an issue. That doesn't fith with your idea of if you like work, you'll have nothing else in your life.
Your's is the sort of logic that declares those guys living under the bridges as the winners in life.
I feel truly sad for you. There is so much more to life than work. Sitting in the same cubicle every day. The same people. The same shit.
So who says you have to do that? I had a full busy career, with travel, lots of change, and seldom got bored. Even had multiple offices.
Now the interesting thing is there were people with the same job description as mine, who had your attitude.
The difference between them and myself? They didn't want to have to leave the office, they didn't want change, and despite not wanting to travel or do the things I did, they seemed to embrace what they claimed to dislike.
Don't feel sorry for me. I retired at 55 and to my reckoning, they now have worked 10,000 extra hours as compared to me.
But if you still want to feel sorry for me, by all means do.
All of the moaning about how da man is taking advantage of people is silly. Because probably 80 percent of people line up to be taken advantage of. If you think doing your job is a bad thing, you'll get treated that way.
If Hitler had of aimed his obsessions at peaceful endeavours (like the advancement of science, space exploration, etc), who knows what the world would have been like today...
That's because he tapped into the resentment of post World War One, as well as opening up and encouraging latent racism.
Hatred can get a lot of stuff done in a short time, but is always self destructive in the end. When your main tool is eliminating enemies of the state, eventually everyone looks alike an enemy. His thousand year Reich only lasted a few years for a good reason.
There it is again. Where would socialism/marxism/communism BE without the No True Scotsman fallacy? "Well, anyone who would do that is no true socialist!" It would be in the dustbin of history, of course. It just goes to show you the power of a good fallacy, and like Fox Mulder, people just want to believe.
All 'isms but one rely very heavily on the No True Scotsman fallacy. We see it in here when Libertarians bloviate about how the invisible hand of the free market will end all social ills, then never accept that it is an unachievable situation.
But to directly answer your question, Socialism?Marxism, which by the way are two different things once we get out of the Fox News bubble - are in the exact same place Capitalism and Libertarianism are - failed ideologies when ruled by ideals instead of pragmatism.
Pragmatism relies on picking and choosing things that are more likely to work. Like something close to Capitalism, with enough restraints to keep it from destroying itself. And determining that some most things should be run for profit, but acknowledging that there are some things that should not.
And yes, the fact that the Soviet version of Communism sure as hell wasn't actual communism or even socialism notwithstanding, it does serve as a pragmatic example of what happens when an 'ism fails and mutates into something else.
Let's take my little test. After saying that Capitalism is a fine thing as long as it has checks and balances, do you consider me a socialist?
If yes, you have just made your 'ism paramount with no room for anything else, which in itself sounds a little like a variation of the NTS fallacy.
If no, check out pragmatism, the only ism that picks and chooses, it only has to work.
If there is another job offer that pays better than your current job but doesn't require you to work as hard, all other factors being equal, would you take it?
Maybe, maybe not. I get bored easily. And working hard is kind of undefinable as far as I can see. Is working hard manual labor vs sitting at a desk? Is easier work mean no work or much less work? There are some folks like myself who have a very low threshold of boredom, and some folks who would be content to do nothing all day.
As well, doing a job you hate doing for half the time is more work than doing one you like even if you put in more than the 40 hours a week tht apparently makes people's heads explode if they go past that.
The article might have a point if most people would say "no" to this question. The real answer is probably too boring to make news -- most people work so hard because they want/need the money.
That's wage slavery. Believe it or not, there are people in the world for whom work is not something to be considered a success only as long as they do as little as of it as possible.
The hyperbole about the "virtue" of working so hard are just kool-aid from management and HR so they won't appear the villain.
Well fine - I get it, you are one of the people who measures working success by minimum effort. Good for you! But if you measure that as personal success, then why the hardon for those who do not kowtow to your ideas of success?
I don't measure success by minumum effort, and I don't demand that people like you work harder. In fact, I'm good with that, because it just makes me look all the better. So cut your output in half, it's the least you can do.
And don't ever let anyone accuse you of not doing the least you can do.
Not everyone wants to work less though. If I can make $60k working 40 hours a week, I should be able to grab another $15-20 thousand easy picking up 10 to 20 more hours a week. I can live somewhat comfortable on $60 thousand a year but why should I limit myself when I have the free time and abilities to do it? Certainly not because you want to do it for yourself.
And if you like what you are going, hell yeah! While not getting paid overtime per se, I was well compensated for my efforts compared to the folks who couldn't be bothered to put in any extra time.
Then when those found out I pretty much banked and invested that difference? The weird thing was, they thought I was playing the game wrong, while it was actually them.
Just quit and get a better job. Go back to school or something if you need it.
And own your statements. Use first-person. None of that is universal.
Oh man, they are gonna crucify you.
No doubt that there are bad employers, no doubt at all. Some who expect much for little recompense. Som you need to get away from. So as you say, get away form the bad ones.
I've worked pretty "hard" all my life. I am probably considered an idiot here in slashdot for that, but in my defense I was well paid for it, and got to retire at my working salary at 55. That's kinda not too bad at all.
And I heard the same prattle thats going on in here all of my working life - boohooing about how awful the bosses were, and how da man is making you work so hard.
Interestingly enough, the griping level was almost always directly correlated with how lazy the person was. The loudest and "most oppressed " had to be let go because it would appear that any productivity at all was asking them to do too much.
At the same time, science and common sense (a rare commodity these days) tells us that people working a lot have decreased overall productivity, hence working hard is about the most stupid thing you can do or require your underlings to do.
You took working a lot, and made it the same thing as working hard.
The two are not even the same thing. Allow me to explain.
Our ex-neighbor's daughter is a tad lazy. They would give her a job, like raking the leaves in the yard, and she would moan and whine, act all put upon, and end up taking an entire day to do a two hour job. She definitely worked long - taking 8 or 9 hours to do the job. She certainly thought she was working hard.
Now in my own case, I put in a lot of hours, and I enjoyed fixing problems to the point where it hardly seemed like work at all. Productivity was getting the job done, and getting it done well. People who in their minds thought that they worked hard enough were home watching X-factor, or somesuch, I was enjoying getting a problem fixed. Some were annoyed that I was making them "look bad", but usually had to abandon that idea the third or fourth time I saved their ass.
So there you have a person who takes 8+ hours to do a 2 hour job, and considering the bitching and moaning, there's no doubt she was convinced she was working really really hard, and you have a person who is enjoying what they are doing, and taking many hours, but getting a job done that normal people would just give up on. How's that productivity measured? Hell, I dreamed answers to my work problems all the time. Obsessed? I guess it depends on how you look at it. Maybe I'm obsessed with fixing problems. Maybe others are obsessed with maximizing the amount of time spent watching Swamp loggers
Do people in Japan suddenly feel better if they know they person they killed by running over them did it on purpose?
Killing someone in the US, whether accidentally or not, comes with the potential for biiig civil liabilities. If they meant to die, that nicely nips any frivolous wrongful death suits in the bud.
There is a difference between legal iability and psychological damage.
So if you killed someone, and it turned out to be a suicide, you'd be happy? I'd assume not. People who accidentally kill someone often need counseling afterward. Nightmares where they re-live the killing incident, flashbacks, PTSD, and stuff like that.
> The ease with which cell phone jammers can be caught illustrates their base stupidity, as any signal that overwhelms local cell phones is also making it to the cell towers, so you are nicely tracked and logged.
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
I'm a bit surprised that you don't kow how cell phones work.
If you are using something on thoes frequencies, you are located and if you are traveling while jamming, they can form a likely path, then give hte path individual attention.
And while the jammer isn't broadcasting any actual data or voice, he's hitting the cell phone towers. The rest I'll leave up to you, AC
Hell, people who kill themselves in Japan actually have the courtesy to take their shoes off before jumping in front of a train so others will know it's intentional and not an accident. Thinking of others until the end.
Do people in Japan suddenly feel better if they know they person they killed by running over them did it on purpose?
No. Don't talk on the phone while the subway. A$$hole. Don't listen to music without headphones.
I see a future for you of yelling at those fucking teenagers who come near your lawn.
Sucks to not be able to control everyone around you in everything they do doesn't it? Do you yell at your television a lot?
Life is much better when you don't decide to allow other people to have such control of your mood. And if you are such a sensitive little snowflake that you can't control your emotions, don't be around other people.
Because you really can't control other people. Not when they are just doing what people do, and breaking no laws. So take a deep breath, relax, and go forth in the world. It's actually a beautiful place, and shouldn't be viewed through enraged eyes.
If the threat of potential injury is a serious crime, start seriously prosecuting tailgating.
You might not even know if you caused a problem. Regardless, tailgating is a crime, Jamming any RF signal is a crime. Deal with it.
There are Amateur radio operators who have been fined for jamming other communications. The metric isn't remotely based on actual damage done, it's a crime all by itself. Don't like the punishment? Elect people who will make jamming legal. Probably some anarchist party or something will suit you.
The ease with which cell phone jammers can be caught illustrates their base stupidity, as any signal that overwhelms local cell phones is also making it to the cell towers, so you are nicely tracked and logged.
In my estimate, such base stupidity shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. But then, I can't force everyone to act as I want them to act, and neither can jamming proponents.
I highly doubt it. The power of these jammers is low to start with not to mention he was inside a metal box. Maybe someone on a platform that they passed would have had a momentary signal drop but that's about it.
You seem to know a lot about these jammers. By the way, the windows in that metal box do just fine for letting those UHF signals out for the cell phones, they'll do the same for the jammer signal, which is also making it ot the cell towers, making you remarkably easy to trace.
Proportionality is an important concept, and we've lost track of it.
And a long long time ago, when all was right in the world we "lost track of it". Jamming of communications has been illegal just about since radio communications existed. And the F.C.C. takes it very very seriously.
As for the proportionality of it, his penalty is just what you get when you get caught jamming with no public harm. Add people harmed, and you end up with a lot more trouble for your jamming.
Proportionality? This doesn't just inconvenience some mass transit riders, it can cut service to everyone along the route, not for as long a time, but depending on the power he was using, a fair amount of time.
As well, if his jammer was broadband - and it likely was, who knows what else he was jamming.
All that being said, the level of stupidity it takes to do cell jamming is damn high. Just because you might be moving, the cell towers are politely keeping track of the jamming signal, as part of the inherent nature of cellular communications, the times and locations can be easily matched with the form of transit, then you just put a person on the train or bus with some verifying equipment around the time the jammer has been doing his dirty work, let a few more jam sessions take place for evidence, and there ya go.
A lot of work for a lot of people for your disturbing the peace scenario.
Regardless, don't try this stunt kids. You'll be caught fo shizzle.
I know of a couple cases where the owners of the computer tell me that W10 installed itself, without inut on their part
Plenty of people managed to confuse "input on their part" with "stupidly clicking yes to anything that pops up".
It downloads the updates and bugs you to install it, but quite frankly what OS doesn't these days. (Don't say Linux, I just SSHed into an Ubuntu server which told me a system reboot was required as it downloaded and installed updates. And you can't blame forced updates on this since we're talking about Windows 7)
Actually, I have to approve every update on My Mac, and the same with my Linux machines.
I have the Mac set to automatically check for updates. If there are any, I can decide - I've never had an issue with them screwing up my computer, Linux also checks but doesn't download or install.
And a complete OS update? No, W10 is the only OS that downloaded the entire OS without my permission. And you have no choice with W10, you are getting those updates whether you want them or not. On Pro, the rumor was you could turn off updates, but you can only delay them, and the update whne it happens often rests the updates to automatic.
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"Why is it that climate change discussions always ends up in the same place ... the government"
I don't know about "always", but here's some stuff to chew on. The military. The only part of the guvmint that deniers actually like.
The military understands and accepts that AGW, or even plain old GW happens, and is happening. And they are concerned, to say the least. Long before Miami is underwater, shifting weather patterns are going to change simple stuff like water resource availability. Which will destabilize the areas that are hit with the shortages first, then the humans will start fighting each others, their neighbors, those who have the resources. So they gotta plan for it.
Even outside the military, who else ya gonna call?
Business doesn't care about anything except in three month chunks. If it doesn't affect the next quarterly, it doesn't exist.
The dominant religion in our part of the globe actually wants the world to end, and even if that doesn't happen, thrives on disaster so they can claim God is punishing us sinners.
Who else?
The hardest part about visiting Vatican City is waiting in long lines to enter the museums. Well, maybe also protecting your stuff against pickpockets.
And protecting your children's junk against Priests.
You speak so truly -- They are demons indeed. I hope that Trump becomes president, he will please GOD.
Well, God goddamn well better please Trump, or else his goons will beat the shit out of God at the next party rally.
I know you're trying to make a "skeptic" joke here, but in fact our climate models are "notoriously accurate".
Or have you evidence to the contrary?
Something something a long time ago that has long since been refuted, but denialists parrot it like it came form the bible.
Either that, or a spelling error somewhere.
I think I know. Was it The Apocryphal Aerospace Corporation?
FTFY
And when your body has a little glitch, you are yesterday's garbage.
The problem such as it is, is that you think a stroke is a "little glitch"
Your apocryphal story might have a little more insight if his job caused him to have the stroke. Alas, people who never worked a day in their life, or people who won't let da man take advantage of them, also have these "little glitches".
You are projecting your dislike of giving any extra upon this man. Was he happy while working? Probably a lot happier thanafter having a stroke, which cut his work hours down to 0, which in your logic, should have made him happy.
In the end, if you have a stroke - will your working as few hours as possible beforehand make you happier than he is now?
It's not just work, I know the same thing applies to sports and just about everything people do. Especially as you become good at something it draws you in and you want to go further and get better. Success at something is in a real sense addictive. Eventually you get to the point Robert Heinlein described as: "There is no way to stop. Writers go on writing long after it becomes financially unnecessary... because it hurts less to write than it does not to write."
Its a passion. And fortunately probably 95 percent of us don't have one. And that really isn't a bad thing. Altogether too many people are told "Just follow your passion, and you will be happy". That's bullshit.
Most people are like what you see in here in Slashdot. THey don't like their jobs,they don't want to give a moment's extra time because they believe that is harming them somehow. And they have all manner of platitudes for people who do. ike "They have no family life" "They die as soon as they retire", and other nonsense.
When in reality, they simply lack passion And they are being shortchanged by those hwo tell tehm to follow what they don't have.
Because passion is like a white hot pillar of flame - you often have no real choice. I've always been pretty passionate about my work. Trying to stay away from it would be no good. As noted before, I often dream the soutions to problems. Just the way my mind works. What you have to do is make it work for you.
But for the majority that have no passion, they shouldn't act like they have the inside lane into happiness. They don't. I'm probably happier than 95 percent of slashdotters. Although some days, that isn't saying much - for them.
Very much this. The worst enemy of freedom (and free time) are happy, stupid slaves. It also takes a very limited mind to not have any real interests outside of what your bosses tell you to work on.
Another false dilemma. I have had a lot of hobbies before and since retirement. Yet I worked a lot of extra hours without an issue. That doesn't fith with your idea of if you like work, you'll have nothing else in your life.
Your's is the sort of logic that declares those guys living under the bridges as the winners in life.
I feel truly sad for you. There is so much more to life than work. Sitting in the same cubicle every day. The same people. The same shit.
So who says you have to do that? I had a full busy career, with travel, lots of change, and seldom got bored. Even had multiple offices.
Now the interesting thing is there were people with the same job description as mine, who had your attitude.
The difference between them and myself? They didn't want to have to leave the office, they didn't want change, and despite not wanting to travel or do the things I did, they seemed to embrace what they claimed to dislike.
Don't feel sorry for me. I retired at 55 and to my reckoning, they now have worked 10,000 extra hours as compared to me.
But if you still want to feel sorry for me, by all means do.
All of the moaning about how da man is taking advantage of people is silly. Because probably 80 percent of people line up to be taken advantage of. If you think doing your job is a bad thing, you'll get treated that way.
If Hitler had of aimed his obsessions at peaceful endeavours (like the advancement of science, space exploration, etc), who knows what the world would have been like today...
That's because he tapped into the resentment of post World War One, as well as opening up and encouraging latent racism.
Hatred can get a lot of stuff done in a short time, but is always self destructive in the end. When your main tool is eliminating enemies of the state, eventually everyone looks alike an enemy. His thousand year Reich only lasted a few years for a good reason.
There it is again. Where would socialism/marxism/communism BE without the No True Scotsman fallacy? "Well, anyone who would do that is no true socialist!" It would be in the dustbin of history, of course. It just goes to show you the power of a good fallacy, and like Fox Mulder, people just want to believe.
All 'isms but one rely very heavily on the No True Scotsman fallacy. We see it in here when Libertarians bloviate about how the invisible hand of the free market will end all social ills, then never accept that it is an unachievable situation.
But to directly answer your question, Socialism?Marxism, which by the way are two different things once we get out of the Fox News bubble - are in the exact same place Capitalism and Libertarianism are - failed ideologies when ruled by ideals instead of pragmatism.
Pragmatism relies on picking and choosing things that are more likely to work. Like something close to Capitalism, with enough restraints to keep it from destroying itself. And determining that some most things should be run for profit, but acknowledging that there are some things that should not.
And yes, the fact that the Soviet version of Communism sure as hell wasn't actual communism or even socialism notwithstanding, it does serve as a pragmatic example of what happens when an 'ism fails and mutates into something else.
Let's take my little test. After saying that Capitalism is a fine thing as long as it has checks and balances, do you consider me a socialist?
If yes, you have just made your 'ism paramount with no room for anything else, which in itself sounds a little like a variation of the NTS fallacy.
If no, check out pragmatism, the only ism that picks and chooses, it only has to work.
If there is another job offer that pays better than your current job but doesn't require you to work as hard, all other factors being equal, would you take it?
Maybe, maybe not. I get bored easily. And working hard is kind of undefinable as far as I can see. Is working hard manual labor vs sitting at a desk? Is easier work mean no work or much less work? There are some folks like myself who have a very low threshold of boredom, and some folks who would be content to do nothing all day.
As well, doing a job you hate doing for half the time is more work than doing one you like even if you put in more than the 40 hours a week tht apparently makes people's heads explode if they go past that.
The article might have a point if most people would say "no" to this question. The real answer is probably too boring to make news -- most people work so hard because they want/need the money.
That's wage slavery. Believe it or not, there are people in the world for whom work is not something to be considered a success only as long as they do as little as of it as possible.
The hyperbole about the "virtue" of working so hard are just kool-aid from management and HR so they won't appear the villain.
Well fine - I get it, you are one of the people who measures working success by minimum effort. Good for you! But if you measure that as personal success, then why the hardon for those who do not kowtow to your ideas of success? I don't measure success by minumum effort, and I don't demand that people like you work harder. In fact, I'm good with that, because it just makes me look all the better. So cut your output in half, it's the least you can do.
And don't ever let anyone accuse you of not doing the least you can do.
Not everyone wants to work less though. If I can make $60k working 40 hours a week, I should be able to grab another $15-20 thousand easy picking up 10 to 20 more hours a week. I can live somewhat comfortable on $60 thousand a year but why should I limit myself when I have the free time and abilities to do it? Certainly not because you want to do it for yourself.
And if you like what you are going, hell yeah! While not getting paid overtime per se, I was well compensated for my efforts compared to the folks who couldn't be bothered to put in any extra time.
Then when those found out I pretty much banked and invested that difference? The weird thing was, they thought I was playing the game wrong, while it was actually them.
Just quit and get a better job. Go back to school or something if you need it.
And own your statements. Use first-person. None of that is universal.
Oh man, they are gonna crucify you.
No doubt that there are bad employers, no doubt at all. Some who expect much for little recompense. Som you need to get away from. So as you say, get away form the bad ones.
I've worked pretty "hard" all my life. I am probably considered an idiot here in slashdot for that, but in my defense I was well paid for it, and got to retire at my working salary at 55. That's kinda not too bad at all.
And I heard the same prattle thats going on in here all of my working life - boohooing about how awful the bosses were, and how da man is making you work so hard.
Interestingly enough, the griping level was almost always directly correlated with how lazy the person was. The loudest and "most oppressed " had to be let go because it would appear that any productivity at all was asking them to do too much.
At the same time, science and common sense (a rare commodity these days) tells us that people working a lot have decreased overall productivity, hence working hard is about the most stupid thing you can do or require your underlings to do.
You took working a lot, and made it the same thing as working hard.
The two are not even the same thing. Allow me to explain.
Our ex-neighbor's daughter is a tad lazy. They would give her a job, like raking the leaves in the yard, and she would moan and whine, act all put upon, and end up taking an entire day to do a two hour job. She definitely worked long - taking 8 or 9 hours to do the job. She certainly thought she was working hard.
Now in my own case, I put in a lot of hours, and I enjoyed fixing problems to the point where it hardly seemed like work at all. Productivity was getting the job done, and getting it done well. People who in their minds thought that they worked hard enough were home watching X-factor, or somesuch, I was enjoying getting a problem fixed. Some were annoyed that I was making them "look bad", but usually had to abandon that idea the third or fourth time I saved their ass.
So there you have a person who takes 8+ hours to do a 2 hour job, and considering the bitching and moaning, there's no doubt she was convinced she was working really really hard, and you have a person who is enjoying what they are doing, and taking many hours, but getting a job done that normal people would just give up on. How's that productivity measured? Hell, I dreamed answers to my work problems all the time. Obsessed? I guess it depends on how you look at it. Maybe I'm obsessed with fixing problems. Maybe others are obsessed with maximizing the amount of time spent watching Swamp loggers
You are probably thinking of these studies:
http://www.economist.com/blogs...
The problem is of course, that things like making munitions translates to assembly line work, not so much to present day activities.
My experience in life and the workplace is that the majority of people do as little as possible.
Some of them can spend hours a day telling you how busy they are.
Welcome to the Internet of really gadamned stupid things.
Do people in Japan suddenly feel better if they know they person they killed by running over them did it on purpose? Killing someone in the US, whether accidentally or not, comes with the potential for biiig civil liabilities. If they meant to die, that nicely nips any frivolous wrongful death suits in the bud.
There is a difference between legal iability and psychological damage.
So if you killed someone, and it turned out to be a suicide, you'd be happy? I'd assume not. People who accidentally kill someone often need counseling afterward. Nightmares where they re-live the killing incident, flashbacks, PTSD, and stuff like that.
http://www.experienceproject.c...
Even people who kill someone justifiably in self defense can have problems afterward. http://www.mlive.com/news/inde...
> The ease with which cell phone jammers can be caught illustrates their base stupidity, as any signal that overwhelms local cell phones is also making it to the cell towers, so you are nicely tracked and logged.
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
I'm a bit surprised that you don't kow how cell phones work.
Here's a decent primer by the EFF
https://ssd.eff.org/en/module/...
If you are using something on thoes frequencies, you are located and if you are traveling while jamming, they can form a likely path, then give hte path individual attention.
And while the jammer isn't broadcasting any actual data or voice, he's hitting the cell phone towers. The rest I'll leave up to you, AC
Hell, people who kill themselves in Japan actually have the courtesy to take their shoes off before jumping in front of a train so others will know it's intentional and not an accident. Thinking of others until the end.
Do people in Japan suddenly feel better if they know they person they killed by running over them did it on purpose?
Worst
"Murrica is inferior because"
Comparison
Ever!
No. Don't talk on the phone while the subway. A$$hole. Don't listen to music without headphones. I see a future for you of yelling at those fucking teenagers who come near your lawn.
Sucks to not be able to control everyone around you in everything they do doesn't it? Do you yell at your television a lot? Life is much better when you don't decide to allow other people to have such control of your mood. And if you are such a sensitive little snowflake that you can't control your emotions, don't be around other people.
Because you really can't control other people. Not when they are just doing what people do, and breaking no laws. So take a deep breath, relax, and go forth in the world. It's actually a beautiful place, and shouldn't be viewed through enraged eyes.
If he caused such a problem, charge him.
If the threat of potential injury is a serious crime, start seriously prosecuting tailgating.
You might not even know if you caused a problem. Regardless, tailgating is a crime, Jamming any RF signal is a crime. Deal with it.
There are Amateur radio operators who have been fined for jamming other communications. The metric isn't remotely based on actual damage done, it's a crime all by itself. Don't like the punishment? Elect people who will make jamming legal. Probably some anarchist party or something will suit you.
The ease with which cell phone jammers can be caught illustrates their base stupidity, as any signal that overwhelms local cell phones is also making it to the cell towers, so you are nicely tracked and logged.
In my estimate, such base stupidity shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. But then, I can't force everyone to act as I want them to act, and neither can jamming proponents.
I highly doubt it. The power of these jammers is low to start with not to mention he was inside a metal box. Maybe someone on a platform that they passed would have had a momentary signal drop but that's about it.
You seem to know a lot about these jammers. By the way, the windows in that metal box do just fine for letting those UHF signals out for the cell phones, they'll do the same for the jammer signal, which is also making it ot the cell towers, making you remarkably easy to trace.
Proportionality is an important concept, and we've lost track of it.
And a long long time ago, when all was right in the world we "lost track of it". Jamming of communications has been illegal just about since radio communications existed. And the F.C.C. takes it very very seriously.
As for the proportionality of it, his penalty is just what you get when you get caught jamming with no public harm. Add people harmed, and you end up with a lot more trouble for your jamming.
Proportionality? This doesn't just inconvenience some mass transit riders, it can cut service to everyone along the route, not for as long a time, but depending on the power he was using, a fair amount of time.
As well, if his jammer was broadband - and it likely was, who knows what else he was jamming.
All that being said, the level of stupidity it takes to do cell jamming is damn high. Just because you might be moving, the cell towers are politely keeping track of the jamming signal, as part of the inherent nature of cellular communications, the times and locations can be easily matched with the form of transit, then you just put a person on the train or bus with some verifying equipment around the time the jammer has been doing his dirty work, let a few more jam sessions take place for evidence, and there ya go.
A lot of work for a lot of people for your disturbing the peace scenario.
Regardless, don't try this stunt kids. You'll be caught fo shizzle.
I know of a couple cases where the owners of the computer tell me that W10 installed itself, without inut on their part
Plenty of people managed to confuse "input on their part" with "stupidly clicking yes to anything that pops up".
It downloads the updates and bugs you to install it, but quite frankly what OS doesn't these days. (Don't say Linux, I just SSHed into an Ubuntu server which told me a system reboot was required as it downloaded and installed updates. And you can't blame forced updates on this since we're talking about Windows 7)
Actually, I have to approve every update on My Mac, and the same with my Linux machines.
I have the Mac set to automatically check for updates. If there are any, I can decide - I've never had an issue with them screwing up my computer, Linux also checks but doesn't download or install. And a complete OS update? No, W10 is the only OS that downloaded the entire OS without my permission. And you have no choice with W10, you are getting those updates whether you want them or not. On Pro, the rumor was you could turn off updates, but you can only delay them, and the update whne it happens often rests the updates to automatic.
So tl;dr version - you are wrong.