Dude, I'm on your side here. The trouble is that haircut guy has no incentive or motivation to change his behavior. The shitty ads make the company money, and for a for-profit company, that outweighs any other concerns.
You can stand behind your principles all you want. Just be prepared for the possibility that you will be fired for it.
One of these days he'll be taken to task. Things are moving away from people laccepting whatever crap advertisers throw at them.
See my comment above. Very frequently it's not the webmaster that has control over the content, if he/she wants to keep his/her job. When the person that signs your paychecks tells you to put some atrocity on the web page, you do it or you get fired.
So you are saying that you knowingly put malware distribution software on your website as directed by your boss? Yikes!
Has the talk of liability ever came up? Suits tend to understand liability and bad press and all that kind of happy horseshit. And you should as well, because you are allowing it as well.
Uncontested. Unfortunately, in the real world, it's not the way things work. Developers are seen as interchangeable cogs and cost centers, while MBAs have "vision" for the company and actually bring in revenue. I mean think about it, who's going to win here:
MBA: "Blah blah this much money per month blah blah"
Dev: "But it'll annoy our users".
The MBA wins that argument.
The times they are a-changin. That's what this entire subject is about. An adblocker so popular, the writer took it down. suspect he was tortured or something.
Given that the typical slashdotter believes that Apple users are clueless hipster sheeples who know nothing except that they worship any Apple product, and the guy pulls his app because it instantly became the number 1 download, there is something askew with your hypothesis.
Either the so called "clueless Apple worshippers" are not as stupid as we're told they are - which is the likely truth, or your idea that everyone will gleefully accept whatever your haircut guy wants to shove up their ass idea is wrong.
I've done script and ad blocking for a long time. My installs for other people have been including adblockers. When people bring in a computer that's "running my Internet" slow, they get a miracle install of an adblocker. Nothing like the instant conversion that happens when you reload a page without blocking software, then turn it on, restart, and reload it again. And they tell their friends, and they tell their friends.
Ironically, the best form of advertising - word of mouth, will bring down this horrorshow of "The customer is my stupid enemy" brand of advertising.
Not everyone is a cowboy or a one-man-shop; some of us have to deal with poor decisions made by people who are not merely non-technical, but shouldn't be let within 20 feet of anything with more than three buttons.
Corporate web welfare.
Tell me - why is it my responsibility to pay all the extra money for going over my cap just so walking haircut can get his latte's?
Hint - It's not. Haircut guy needs to understand he can't just outsource the ads to North Korea, and eveyone has to BOHICA them.
To undo this decision, go to Settings->Apps, then open the menu and touch "Reset app preferences". Then, next time you hit a Play Store link, the device will ask you whether you want to open it in the browser or the app, and whether you want to do this "just once" or "always".
Just as bad, if not worse, are those annoying-as-hell ads that automatically redirect you to the app store. I used to not be able to surf the web on my wife's iPad because it would always switch from Safari to the App Store, then it started happening on my Android devices, too.
The deciding factor on which browser I use on my mobile devices is now "Does it have an ad-blocker?" The mobile web is useless without it.
I rarely ever use a smartphone for surfing, except when I need to reference something. You'll just run right over your cap in a short time. I suppose I could e like a few friends who are paying 500 a month. Ironically, much of that 500 goes to support the internet welfare state of advertisers.
I'm sure most people want the internet to go back to the same content it had in the 90's../sarcasm
This "commercial bullshit" is what has driven up the speed of our connection as well as the amazing amount of content types available online.
If you want a 90's style internet, turn off javascript and enjoy all the non-commercial sites you want.
So what you are saying is that I have to subsidize websites I'll never go to because you think thw web sould suck so bad if I didn't?
Second there's a really good reason his adblocker was so popular - see first off.
This is anecdotal from a fellow whom I have no reason to doubt his veracity. He installed the adblocker on his phone because of the annoying steamy pile of shit today's web is. Ran some experiments on a 500 word news story. That should be pretty short and simple, right? 40 fscking megabytes of ads and 18 script requests later, he had his page without the adblocker.
Now if you were talking a megabyte, that might be acceptable. But 40 Megabytes of ads? No! No no no! not for a simple story, and especially not on a smartphone. How long you figure that it will take you to run over your cap at that rate?
There is no universe where that lind of thing is acceptable.
There is a really bizarre thing I've noted at home with tehse advertisers who youo adore. The continuous script request. his highly necessary and needed part of modern web surfing has the good website constantly trying to ram it's script request up your browsers ass. I just let it go one evening to see if it would ever stop. It was weird to watch Noscript's counter increment like crazy - I had no idea it would even do that.Some 10,000 blocks later, after only a few minutes I just clicked off and figured that if enough people went to that site, and used no script, it would be like a oddball reverse DDOS. Someone ought to tell the pricks they might want to stop that. One request is enough.
No, really! DIE! PLEASE! Fuck off and let the Internet go back to what it was in the '90s, before it got infested by all this commercial bullshit!
Didn't you know, that businessses have the right to succeed?
But seriously, the idea that I would have to subsidize some piece of shit wbsite because if they had to make it on their own, they'd go out of business is just web welfare
Are you asking me to be sympathetic to sites that post "Doctors hate him! One wierd trick! Singles in your area! Etc!" ads with irrelevant misleading pictures and popups galore?
Wonder when people will see this one?..
A Housewife in Pennsylvania discovered this simple trick that all the web advertisers hate!
When will people start to realize that all of the shit they do because they think will solve one technology problem usually creates another one?
I'm hoping, but I'm not certain they will. Safety Culture has run amok, and in those weird twists that cultures are capable of, they'll just claim "See? SEE? We'v gotta duz more to keep R chidlren save!!! Look at how this system can be violated! ERMAGHERD We gotta DO sumpin!"
Pretty good gig when Safety culture can cause a problem, then have no responsibility, and then demand another layer of protection.
I'm foreseeing the day, and soon - that there will be gps enabled shock collars for children that can be programmed to give the little urchins a jolt if they go into the wrong part of town, and a "Romeo and Juliet" function where if your lovely daughter with so much promise is thinking of seeing some bad prospect from the wrong side of the tracks, that collar will give both of them a reminder. Maybe a counter so that if more than three of them congregate in the same place, they'll be forced to disperse. All it takes is a universal mandate like the one that happened here. Safety Culture. Nothing is ever immune from applications of safety
Scary thing is a dumbass like myself could easily implement such a system, so the smart folks probably have something like this in the works already.
Safety Culture never sleeps, and is never never ever satisfied.
That's all they can be while someone is stepping on their head.
Had that happen to me most of my early life. I suspect my genetic makeup was different - it just encouraged me to show those mothas just how wrong they were.
"...Barbie controlled by an AI,"
I, for one, welcome our new 36DD A.I.-controlled overlords.
Oh man, oh man, oh man! I'm just seeig this as a primme hack target......
"Cynthia.....Cynthia...... It's time to go get that knife in the silverware drawer...... yes, yes, the big one..... Now go up and show it to mommy and daddy a bunch of times just like I told you how to do it........ There's a good girl Cynthia....... They won't feel a thing if you do it right, and then all the candy in the house will be your's forever Cynthia....... just like I was telling you......."
because children are mentally fragile. This isn't rocket science.
It's not true either. I don't want to bore people with my childhood, but if you were right I'd have offed myself before I graduated High school.
People will limit themselves base on their perception of themselves.
Oddly enough, I did pertty well despite, perhaps even because of other people's perception of me
If they think they're average they'll be average. Better to have some folks running around trying too hard then all our geniuses doing squat all because we dumped on them when they were young.
That is so so so so wrong. Todays children, having been raised with your idea that they are easily crushable, weak and unable to withstand any adversity are proving that being taught since day one, that you are a special little snowflake tends to faill miserably.It produces weak people with wildly inflated expectations. Certainly most of the millenials I have ever worked with come in like a boss, and after a year leave to go back to mommy and daddy, utterly defeated because the real world doesn't treat them like the pinnacle of humanity, the precious one of a kind snowflake any more.
Harsh? It shouoldn't be. It's mere reality. If children are taught that they need to grow as humans, and that self esteem comes from accomplishing things, they'll have a better go at life. The self esteem movement is subtle child abuse.
Platitudes like "work hard and be all you can be" have the benefit of actually being true.
Nonsense. Your social status is far more relevant to whether you can be all you can be than whether you try hard, since for most people, no amount of trying will permit them to realize their full potential.
Seriously, if Barbie destroys young women's self esteem, I guess that playing with Cabbage Patch dolls makes for incredibly self confident women who have the most positive self image in the world.
Cuz dem liddle Cabbage Patch fukas iz sure be Fugly.
No if you are jealous of Barbie, you have a problem that goes way deep, and that little doll didn't cause it.
The rage is indeed simmering. Militant womens lib has come and gone. We've had Title 9 for decades. And there are still conservative groups that go into a rage about women going to college.
I'm associated with a couple of scholarship funds for women. And one needs a thick skin to deal with all the shit the moral midgets fling my way.
Have you considered hiring Chanty Binx? She'll straighten those neanderthals out.
It saddens me. This takes away a child's ability to put words in Barbie's mouth. It also helps parents abdicate the responsibility of answering the child's questions themselves. Why should a child turn to talking Barbie? Because, like the ipad, it keeps the parent free to ignore parenting a little bit more. Inevitable, I guess, but sad.
And there we have it. Parents were all attentive, and interacted with their children al the time - until the iPad was invented. Jesus on a jackrabbit, that's lame.
Long version is I'm "telling" you something that either through stubbornness, or inability to grasp what I'm telling you, you simply refuse to accept it.
If they don't support it, why was it the link I was brought to from their own home page a year ago?
You can still download Linux Mint1.0 beta.You can download every version of Linux Mint. The Linux world is not Windows - pretty much any version of any flavor of Linux is still available, including Mint 16. And Mint 16 isn't a Long Term Support (LTS) release now.
http://www.linuxmint.com/oldre... shows us that the oldest LTS version is Mint 13, supportted until April 2017 - Next up is the Mint 17 and 17.x series, supported until April 2019
There is also an LTS version names "Betsy", but that's oriented toward experienced and "adventurous" users. I'm no certain I'd recommend it to anyone personally except for experimenters.
You can use the wayback machine to see it. I stand by everything I've said, and I've noticed you continue to dodge the fact that showing a end-user 404 errors when trying to update is wrong. Why didn't it just tell me exactly what you said?
I don't even care why you got 404 errors. It's not dodging your question, its pointless. its just another symptom that there were no longer updates available for Mint 16. And that's just how it works.
If I were to analyze what happened to you, I'd say you downloaded a package that was nearly obsolete at the time you downloaded it. That's no crime. If you aren't familiar with the Linux ecosystem, it can happen.
But your reaction is all wrong. Instead of allowing that you might have made a mistake, you've decided to indict the whole ecosystem rather than say "Oops!
All I'm saying is that your complaints are all due to being pissed about downloading an obsolete - or nearly obsolete - system, and expecting it to be supported after it is obsolete. Myself and a whole lot of other people don't have that problem. Why? Because we are using supported versions. And when 17 goes obsolete in 2019, we'll just move on to another supported version - what we won't do is complain about no updates any longer for 17.
Because your problem is only a problem for you, and your expectation of support for an obsolete package, and insisting that you were somehow misled.
But to accept any of that, you would have to take some telling.
Is there any evidence that software engineers are good teachers?
Software engineering is hard. Therefore, it is a superset of all things that aren't hard, like poetry and history and all that shit.
Not at all. The ability to teach depends on the person, not what they do. A lot of SW engineers haven't ever tried to teach, so who knows. But it is definitely a different skill set.
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Dude, I'm on your side here. The trouble is that haircut guy has no incentive or motivation to change his behavior. The shitty ads make the company money, and for a for-profit company, that outweighs any other concerns.
You can stand behind your principles all you want. Just be prepared for the possibility that you will be fired for it.
One of these days he'll be taken to task. Things are moving away from people laccepting whatever crap advertisers throw at them.
Oh please. We're not herding people into ovens here.
Let's take a hypothetical lawsuit against your company. Your boss will be happy to throw you under the bus for certain.
The lawyer asks you if you knowingly allowed malware distribution sowtware to run on your site. Unless you are lying, your answer will be yes.
"So why did you do it?"
Your answer?
See my comment above. Very frequently it's not the webmaster that has control over the content, if he/she wants to keep his/her job. When the person that signs your paychecks tells you to put some atrocity on the web page, you do it or you get fired.
So you are saying that you knowingly put malware distribution software on your website as directed by your boss? Yikes!
Has the talk of liability ever came up? Suits tend to understand liability and bad press and all that kind of happy horseshit. And you should as well, because you are allowing it as well.
Uncontested. Unfortunately, in the real world, it's not the way things work. Developers are seen as interchangeable cogs and cost centers, while MBAs have "vision" for the company and actually bring in revenue. I mean think about it, who's going to win here:
MBA: "Blah blah this much money per month blah blah" Dev: "But it'll annoy our users".
The MBA wins that argument.
The times they are a-changin. That's what this entire subject is about. An adblocker so popular, the writer took it down. suspect he was tortured or something.
Given that the typical slashdotter believes that Apple users are clueless hipster sheeples who know nothing except that they worship any Apple product, and the guy pulls his app because it instantly became the number 1 download, there is something askew with your hypothesis.
Either the so called "clueless Apple worshippers" are not as stupid as we're told they are - which is the likely truth, or your idea that everyone will gleefully accept whatever your haircut guy wants to shove up their ass idea is wrong.
I've done script and ad blocking for a long time. My installs for other people have been including adblockers. When people bring in a computer that's "running my Internet" slow, they get a miracle install of an adblocker. Nothing like the instant conversion that happens when you reload a page without blocking software, then turn it on, restart, and reload it again. And they tell their friends, and they tell their friends.
Ironically, the best form of advertising - word of mouth, will bring down this horrorshow of "The customer is my stupid enemy" brand of advertising.
Not everyone is a cowboy or a one-man-shop; some of us have to deal with poor decisions made by people who are not merely non-technical, but shouldn't be let within 20 feet of anything with more than three buttons.
Corporate web welfare.
Tell me - why is it my responsibility to pay all the extra money for going over my cap just so walking haircut can get his latte's?
Hint - It's not. Haircut guy needs to understand he can't just outsource the ads to North Korea, and eveyone has to BOHICA them.
To undo this decision, go to Settings->Apps, then open the menu and touch "Reset app preferences". Then, next time you hit a Play Store link, the device will ask you whether you want to open it in the browser or the app, and whether you want to do this "just once" or "always".
How handy.
Just as bad, if not worse, are those annoying-as-hell ads that automatically redirect you to the app store. I used to not be able to surf the web on my wife's iPad because it would always switch from Safari to the App Store, then it started happening on my Android devices, too.
The deciding factor on which browser I use on my mobile devices is now "Does it have an ad-blocker?" The mobile web is useless without it.
I rarely ever use a smartphone for surfing, except when I need to reference something. You'll just run right over your cap in a short time. I suppose I could e like a few friends who are paying 500 a month. Ironically, much of that 500 goes to support the internet welfare state of advertisers.
I'm sure most people want the internet to go back to the same content it had in the 90's../sarcasm
This "commercial bullshit" is what has driven up the speed of our connection as well as the amazing amount of content types available online.
If you want a 90's style internet, turn off javascript and enjoy all the non-commercial sites you want.
So what you are saying is that I have to subsidize websites I'll never go to because you think thw web sould suck so bad if I didn't?
Second there's a really good reason his adblocker was so popular - see first off.
This is anecdotal from a fellow whom I have no reason to doubt his veracity. He installed the adblocker on his phone because of the annoying steamy pile of shit today's web is. Ran some experiments on a 500 word news story. That should be pretty short and simple, right? 40 fscking megabytes of ads and 18 script requests later, he had his page without the adblocker.
Now if you were talking a megabyte, that might be acceptable. But 40 Megabytes of ads? No! No no no! not for a simple story, and especially not on a smartphone. How long you figure that it will take you to run over your cap at that rate?
There is no universe where that lind of thing is acceptable.
There is a really bizarre thing I've noted at home with tehse advertisers who youo adore. The continuous script request. his highly necessary and needed part of modern web surfing has the good website constantly trying to ram it's script request up your browsers ass. I just let it go one evening to see if it would ever stop. It was weird to watch Noscript's counter increment like crazy - I had no idea it would even do that.Some 10,000 blocks later, after only a few minutes I just clicked off and figured that if enough people went to that site, and used no script, it would be like a oddball reverse DDOS. Someone ought to tell the pricks they might want to stop that. One request is enough.
Is all this your utopian vision for the Toobz?
I've got a better "business model:" Die.
No, really! DIE! PLEASE! Fuck off and let the Internet go back to what it was in the '90s, before it got infested by all this commercial bullshit!
Didn't you know, that businessses have the right to succeed?
But seriously, the idea that I would have to subsidize some piece of shit wbsite because if they had to make it on their own, they'd go out of business is just web welfare
Are you asking me to be sympathetic to sites that post "Doctors hate him! One wierd trick! Singles in your area! Etc!" ads with irrelevant misleading pictures and popups galore?
Wonder when people will see this one?..
A Housewife in Pennsylvania discovered this simple trick that all the web advertisers hate!
When will people start to realize that all of the shit they do because they think will solve one technology problem usually creates another one?
I'm hoping, but I'm not certain they will. Safety Culture has run amok, and in those weird twists that cultures are capable of, they'll just claim "See? SEE? We'v gotta duz more to keep R chidlren save!!! Look at how this system can be violated! ERMAGHERD We gotta DO sumpin!"
Pretty good gig when Safety culture can cause a problem, then have no responsibility, and then demand another layer of protection.
I'm foreseeing the day, and soon - that there will be gps enabled shock collars for children that can be programmed to give the little urchins a jolt if they go into the wrong part of town, and a "Romeo and Juliet" function where if your lovely daughter with so much promise is thinking of seeing some bad prospect from the wrong side of the tracks, that collar will give both of them a reminder. Maybe a counter so that if more than three of them congregate in the same place, they'll be forced to disperse. All it takes is a universal mandate like the one that happened here. Safety Culture. Nothing is ever immune from applications of safety
Scary thing is a dumbass like myself could easily implement such a system, so the smart folks probably have something like this in the works already.
Safety Culture never sleeps, and is never never ever satisfied.
Well, I guess that's all they can be then.
That's all they can be while someone is stepping on their head.
Had that happen to me most of my early life. I suspect my genetic makeup was different - it just encouraged me to show those mothas just how wrong they were.
"...Barbie controlled by an AI," I, for one, welcome our new 36DD A.I.-controlled overlords.
Oh man, oh man, oh man! I'm just seeig this as a primme hack target......
"Cynthia.....Cynthia...... It's time to go get that knife in the silverware drawer...... yes, yes, the big one..... Now go up and show it to mommy and daddy a bunch of times just like I told you how to do it........ There's a good girl Cynthia....... They won't feel a thing if you do it right, and then all the candy in the house will be your's forever Cynthia....... just like I was telling you......."
Then she'd be a boy! :-)
well played, WalksonDirt, well played indeed!
because children are mentally fragile. This isn't rocket science.
It's not true either. I don't want to bore people with my childhood, but if you were right I'd have offed myself before I graduated High school.
People will limit themselves base on their perception of themselves.
Oddly enough, I did pertty well despite, perhaps even because of other people's perception of me
If they think they're average they'll be average. Better to have some folks running around trying too hard then all our geniuses doing squat all because we dumped on them when they were young.
That is so so so so wrong. Todays children, having been raised with your idea that they are easily crushable, weak and unable to withstand any adversity are proving that being taught since day one, that you are a special little snowflake tends to faill miserably.It produces weak people with wildly inflated expectations. Certainly most of the millenials I have ever worked with come in like a boss, and after a year leave to go back to mommy and daddy, utterly defeated because the real world doesn't treat them like the pinnacle of humanity, the precious one of a kind snowflake any more.
Harsh? It shouoldn't be. It's mere reality. If children are taught that they need to grow as humans, and that self esteem comes from accomplishing things, they'll have a better go at life. The self esteem movement is subtle child abuse.
Platitudes like "work hard and be all you can be" have the benefit of actually being true.
Nonsense. Your social status is far more relevant to whether you can be all you can be than whether you try hard, since for most people, no amount of trying will permit them to realize their full potential.
Well, I guess that's all they can be then.
The feminist complaint isn't that Barbie says the wrong things.......it's that Barbie exists at all.
One of the oddest, most counterproductive situations in the world, is that some women are jealous of a little plastic doll.
Which of course leds to this:
http://www.memecenter.com/fun/...
Seriously, if Barbie destroys young women's self esteem, I guess that playing with Cabbage Patch dolls makes for incredibly self confident women who have the most positive self image in the world.
Cuz dem liddle Cabbage Patch fukas iz sure be Fugly. No if you are jealous of Barbie, you have a problem that goes way deep, and that little doll didn't cause it.
Ya got 99 problems, and Barbie ain't one of 'em.
Yes sir.
Holy crap. Note the common thread - The Abrahmic desert god cult is indeed a cancer upon the human spirit and mind.
I also have an old bible beater book called "Genesis and Evolution" where all education is considered at best, very dangerous.
The rage is indeed simmering. Militant womens lib has come and gone. We've had Title 9 for decades. And there are still conservative groups that go into a rage about women going to college.
I'm associated with a couple of scholarship funds for women. And one needs a thick skin to deal with all the shit the moral midgets fling my way.
Have you considered hiring Chanty Binx? She'll straighten those neanderthals out.
It saddens me. This takes away a child's ability to put words in Barbie's mouth. It also helps parents abdicate the responsibility of answering the child's questions themselves. Why should a child turn to talking Barbie? Because, like the ipad, it keeps the parent free to ignore parenting a little bit more. Inevitable, I guess, but sad.
And there we have it. Parents were all attentive, and interacted with their children al the time - until the iPad was invented. Jesus on a jackrabbit, that's lame.
You looked at thei the website?
https://aws.amazon.com/ Why yes, yes I did. Awesome thing, this intertoobz
Take a telling? Is that English?
Its a colloquialism.
Long version is I'm "telling" you something that either through stubbornness, or inability to grasp what I'm telling you, you simply refuse to accept it.
If they don't support it, why was it the link I was brought to from their own home page a year ago?
You can still download Linux Mint1.0 beta.You can download every version of Linux Mint. The Linux world is not Windows - pretty much any version of any flavor of Linux is still available, including Mint 16. And Mint 16 isn't a Long Term Support (LTS) release now. http://www.linuxmint.com/oldre... shows us that the oldest LTS version is Mint 13, supportted until April 2017 - Next up is the Mint 17 and 17.x series, supported until April 2019
There is also an LTS version names "Betsy", but that's oriented toward experienced and "adventurous" users. I'm no certain I'd recommend it to anyone personally except for experimenters.
You can use the wayback machine to see it. I stand by everything I've said, and I've noticed you continue to dodge the fact that showing a end-user 404 errors when trying to update is wrong. Why didn't it just tell me exactly what you said?
I don't even care why you got 404 errors. It's not dodging your question, its pointless. its just another symptom that there were no longer updates available for Mint 16. And that's just how it works.
If I were to analyze what happened to you, I'd say you downloaded a package that was nearly obsolete at the time you downloaded it. That's no crime. If you aren't familiar with the Linux ecosystem, it can happen.
But your reaction is all wrong. Instead of allowing that you might have made a mistake, you've decided to indict the whole ecosystem rather than say "Oops!
All I'm saying is that your complaints are all due to being pissed about downloading an obsolete - or nearly obsolete - system, and expecting it to be supported after it is obsolete. Myself and a whole lot of other people don't have that problem. Why? Because we are using supported versions. And when 17 goes obsolete in 2019, we'll just move on to another supported version - what we won't do is complain about no updates any longer for 17.
Because your problem is only a problem for you, and your expectation of support for an obsolete package, and insisting that you were somehow misled.
But to accept any of that, you would have to take some telling.
Sounds legit.
Need help. Any India child of four can program a computer. Stupid American child of four can do what? Nothing. That is what.
Is this your Brahmin Children or the ones who have to look foward to a job market that consists of cleaning your sewers?
Software engineering is hard. Therefore, it is a superset of all things that aren't hard, like poetry and history and all that shit.
Not at all. The ability to teach depends on the person, not what they do. A lot of SW engineers haven't ever tried to teach, so who knows. But it is definitely a different skill set.