I have no opinion on this issue specifically, but it is indeed possible that the person you are talking to could indeed be smarter than all of Mossad and the CIA put together. And you probably are, too. Any organisation which actively rejects public scrutiny can very easily be far stupider than any single person who works for them.
In the lead up to the Iraq war, our intelligence services were convinced that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Cool story Bro. The people who were convinced were the Neocons running the country at that time. Turns out that was not an intel failure, but a lie.
I know several who hope fervently that they are raptured in their lifetime. What is the use of the Desert gawd if you don't get to heaven and send most everyone else to hell?
"The users expect data retention to last forever."
And as long as they agree to it, it _can_ last forever.
The point is, you have to have their agreement.
Not if I deny them access. I can tell ya, the folks I'm doing this for will just say $9 some a month is much better than a whole new suite of records, and forms and coming up with a digital signature system and keeping track if someone changes their minds, and the decision of how to deal with people who want to be part of it all, but want their records deleted after whatever the EU decides is proper or changes it's mind about.
The laws of inintended consequences might not be in the books, but they are laws regardless.
That's two items that fall under government requirements that also fall under GDPR, along with your billing and shipping information. "Giant evil corporation" and "Mom and Pop shop" both have to deal with them.
And the simplest method is to not allow them access to your web presence. Problem solved.
Tell me, what of my personal data beyond billing and shipping data for my most recent order would a Mom and Pop shop need?
This is the usual right-wing talking point about 'onerous regulation' and it is bullshit.
Good lord - couldn't you have mentioned Trump in there somewhere? Sorry, but political affiliation has nothing to do with this.
It is not about the small businesses, unless they are merely a bait-and-switch operation trying to gain my data to sell it on to unscrupulous marketeers.
So are you saying that we don't have to comply? Can you find the legal documents we can reort to if the EU challenges us?
It is about massive corporations that want to be free to pillage my life for their profits, and there is always an idiot falling for their 'but think of the poor small businessmen' shtick.
Again, can you provide the cites that small business people are exempt?
I'd rather understand why they want to block EU users and what they're going to do with my data. I think assuming they have ill intent is unjustified.
Its the law of unintended consequences. One of the websites I run has names, Radio call signs and contact records. The users are worldwide.
The users expect data retention to last forever. And once they have a call sign, we can find your address and lots of other personal information. But looks like the European union is now going to get their citizens blocked from accessing what they want. The people I do this for cannot afford an EU compliance officer.
For example, say a website had a average profit of $50 per EU user per year. But to implement GDPR and hire a data protection officer will average $100 per EU user per year. It's just not worth it to the company, they either charge EU users much more or lock them out.
EU users demand the privacy protections, so it is a good thing for not allowing them access to websites that do not conform with what EU citizens demand. It's like NetNanny for adults.
You don't need to hire a data protection officer whatever the abstract says. You need to have some one designated in this role; it's like someone has to be responsible for safety, someone has to be responsible for first aid. A large company may well have a specific person whose job is only to do this, but most don't.
The way I see it is that the EU demands privacy protection for it's citizens. If EU citizens are refused access to all sites that do not comply, then their rights have been dutifully and properly served, and the European Union should consider that tehy have scored a big win.
* Don't try "patronize" me BOY when I can show you are less than ZERO fucker... easily.
P.S.=> Your DIM brains are blatantly inferior evidenced by your FAKE NAMES online for FAKE lives of being "ne'er-do-well" scum having the AUDACITY to even TRY "F" w/ me & ones like you you INFERIOR swine as I cast PEARLS before SWINE like you... apk
Uncle Bingo - Hey, howyadoin'? Haven't heard from ya for a while. Good to see you're still kickin' and spunky as ever. Your doctor told us she was going to adjust your Haldol prescription. Looks like just a smidge more, and you'll be just like a regular person. The family will be so happy about that. Love and kisses from all.
Rate of 8% successful, meaning almost 1 in 10 people are correctly identified. Not that bad.
That is positively bad.
That is bad, IF the police are in the habit of just shooting suspects. While there are cities in the USA that I would expect to do that sort of thing, I've never heard that the Brits are all that big on "shoot first, question the corpse"...
On the other hand, if all they do is pass the pictures on to a human for follow-up (which follow-up does not include "shoot them, then ask questions"), then it's not that big a deal.
Doood! The whole thread is "let's be positive", so I wrote this is positively bad. You know, like a play on words? He said be positive, so I used it in a sentence. Positively. Wow, tough crowd tonight.
So you are saying it is fine to call other Russians that?
You know who else hated both the Russians and the Jews? Hitler, that's who. You liberals became what you used to hate. So fucking pathetic.
You sound like Kathi Newman in her in her "debate" with Jordan Peterson. It's a big cruel world, and for babushkas like you who are genetically missing your humor gland, bigger, more cruel and harder. Laugh a bit my little lobster, it makes you feel better, and more people will like you. I like you because you make me laugh - now isn't that better?
Most of the sites you linked to constitute fake news. Several of the links make little if any mention of the political affiliation of the actors involved.
Don't spam us with your collection of echo chambers.
You are challenged to prove it is fake News there Beuregard. Otherwise I call fake fake new on you.
"Ivan"? Really?
You are just a racist bigot. I know what assholes like you call Russians: snow n**gers.
Why should we even care about what you demonrat racists say about America? Go away and fuck yourself.
Why would I call myself a "Snow Noogie? Before you go getting your panties all in a knot, you really ought to not make stupid 100 percent wrong accusations, Sheila. Being an anonymous coward was the smartest thing you've done today.
voter ID is going to do nothing, not one thing but eliminate a trite old chestnut of a talking point.
Then why not do it? What are you (your party) so afraid of? Why the opposition, the BS lawsuits, etc.?
Don't you want to eliminate a talking point of your opponents?
Well Ivan, I am not even remotely a Democrat, and your tipping your bias assuming I am .
I'll try this a little slower. Republicans want the talking point, not the bogus fix. If you read more than the first couple of lines - I am very much in favor of voter Identification. Free, register and get your picture taken and print out a card on the spot. Work it in over time. I already have a Voter ID where I live - Not a problem at all. I would love nothing more than the results of enacting that. REad on to understand exactly why.
Now I'll explain again, since you're having a tough t time on the uptake. There are certain Republican touchstones that can reliably be dragged out to frighten the faithful every election cycle. And one of the big fears is those chocolate people voting. Same with abortion, prayer in schools, Confederate flags and other far right wing existential nightmares.
Here's the important thing Binky - It's politics diversion tactics 101.
Having God fearing Republicans afraid of chocolate people voting is much better at gettting the God fearing Republican people to the polls than actually requiring whatever the latest efforts to keep the Chocolate people away from the polls.
Its why the outrage about removal of the Confederate flag and monuments outrages them so much - they lost a talking point.
And if America suddenly made all abortion illegal and a capital punishment for intentional and manslaughter for accidental fetus death - how are they going to get the far right social conservatives out to vote against the Godless Demoncrats. And their useful idiots fall for it every time. It's like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's football, only to have it jerked out of the way - time after time after time after time.
And the worst part about a national Voter registration? It will catch more Republican fraudsters.
Republicans know full well that there is voter fraud, and that is because so much Voter Fraud is performed by Republicans - highly ranked ones even
Citation needed.
A shitload of citations were provided above. I even quit because I think with the sheer ease of finding Republican Voter Fraud that I was guilding the lily.
And it isn't surprising. A cousin of projection, where typically a person who really wants to engage in homosexual activity but is ashamed will act publicly like he wants them all killed, people who engage in fraud as a matter of course, think that everyone is like them - ie, fraudulent. Of course Republicans are against what they see as fraud by Democrats. They in no way shape or form want to eliminate fraud. They belive that Democrats commit fraud like they do, and want to eliminate that. They still want to vote several times, vote in different areas where they don't live, and believe that fraud is completely acceptable as long as it elects Republicans.
Now go back and read the list of cites I thoughtfully provided. You might have to scroll up a little - hope that isn't too much trouble.
So you want your own chemistry set? I think that ship has sailed in the US.:-p
Safety culture is introducing legislation to ban all chemical reactions.
My big old chemistry set was about as much fun as I ever had. Had a little out building in the back yard too use it in to boot. Want to get more people interested in STEM? maybe we shouldn't act like anything stronger than a vinegar/baking soda is too dangerous.
Our present path is allowing people to have different laws of physics based on political affiliation.
34 million years, that's funny when oldest ice core is 2.7 million years.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know id there is a maximum depth of ice that we can have on earth?
Since Ice will melt under pressure (seriously, put an ice cube in a vice and turn the handle) it would seem to put a limit on how much ice could be stacked before it turns into liquid
Yesiree, Republicans know full well that there is voter fraud, and that is because so much Votter Fraud is performed by Republicans - highly ranked ones even - And your wet dream of a voter ID is going to do nothing, not one thing but eliminate a trite old chestnut of a talking point.
Personally, I'm in favor of voter ID - but given that Republicans bring it up every election cycle like it is the cure blessed by God himself for them thar godless commiecrats and their letting them chocolate people - who always commit fraud, amirite? - is just Bullshit - to use your term.
Phase it in, make it free ( hey, maybe we can get that Russian Oligarch who funnels money to Republicans through the NRA to chip in ) and start long before elections.
But how is that going to actually stop Republican election fraud? Or is that Okay because the Republican party has shown it has a lock on the moral high ground?
And be like Linux, where they're constantly rewriting the GUI framework, adding features no one asked for and removing features people use? Sounds a lot like the Windows model.
And not enough time to test them properly. Microsoft should just support one version of Windows 10, getting rid of superfluous versions like 10S and take the LTSB version and just support that without the six monthly "Windows as a service" updates.
I think Microsoft just realized that most consumers didn't purchase upgrades anyhow (only "upgrading" when a new computer was purchased), and maintaining several OS lines at the same time was a pain, so in reality, it's more of a cost-saving measure for them by simply keeping everyone on the same branch of Windows.
It would be nice if the gaddamned OS actually worked. W10 is touted as the Most secure version ever, and they cannot fix a critical flaw, they are taking systems that work and rendering them or the sodftwre on them inoperable.
The only thing that they have going for them is Stockholm syndrome.
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I have no opinion on this issue specifically, but it is indeed possible that the person you are talking to could indeed be smarter than all of Mossad and the CIA put together. And you probably are, too. Any organisation which actively rejects public scrutiny can very easily be far stupider than any single person who works for them.
In the lead up to the Iraq war, our intelligence services were convinced that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Cool story Bro. The people who were convinced were the Neocons running the country at that time. Turns out that was not an intel failure, but a lie.
No, they don't. No.
I know several who hope fervently that they are raptured in their lifetime. What is the use of the Desert gawd if you don't get to heaven and send most everyone else to hell?
See subject SOYBoy (rotflmao) in your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous "courageous" trolling you "not man" - LMAO!
I hope English is not your first language.
"The users expect data retention to last forever."
And as long as they agree to it, it _can_ last forever.
The point is, you have to have their agreement.
Not if I deny them access. I can tell ya, the folks I'm doing this for will just say $9 some a month is much better than a whole new suite of records, and forms and coming up with a digital signature system and keeping track if someone changes their minds, and the decision of how to deal with people who want to be part of it all, but want their records deleted after whatever the EU decides is proper or changes it's mind about.
The laws of inintended consequences might not be in the books, but they are laws regardless.
That's two items that fall under government requirements that also fall under GDPR, along with your billing and shipping information. "Giant evil corporation" and "Mom and Pop shop" both have to deal with them.
And the simplest method is to not allow them access to your web presence. Problem solved.
Tell me, what of my personal data beyond billing and shipping data for my most recent order would a Mom and Pop shop need?
This is the usual right-wing talking point about 'onerous regulation' and it is bullshit.
Good lord - couldn't you have mentioned Trump in there somewhere? Sorry, but political affiliation has nothing to do with this. It is not about the small businesses, unless they are merely a bait-and-switch operation trying to gain my data to sell it on to unscrupulous marketeers.
So are you saying that we don't have to comply? Can you find the legal documents we can reort to if the EU challenges us?
It is about massive corporations that want to be free to pillage my life for their profits, and there is always an idiot falling for their 'but think of the poor small businessmen' shtick.
Again, can you provide the cites that small business people are exempt?
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I'd rather understand why they want to block EU users and what they're going to do with my data. I think assuming they have ill intent is unjustified.
Its the law of unintended consequences. One of the websites I run has names, Radio call signs and contact records. The users are worldwide.
The users expect data retention to last forever. And once they have a call sign, we can find your address and lots of other personal information. But looks like the European union is now going to get their citizens blocked from accessing what they want. The people I do this for cannot afford an EU compliance officer.
* Have a data deletion policy
My site has records, and they will be retained forever - that's my policy.
Blocking is orders of magnitude easier.
For example, say a website had a average profit of $50 per EU user per year. But to implement GDPR and hire a data protection officer will average $100 per EU user per year. It's just not worth it to the company, they either charge EU users much more or lock them out.
EU users demand the privacy protections, so it is a good thing for not allowing them access to websites that do not conform with what EU citizens demand. It's like NetNanny for adults.
You don't need to hire a data protection officer whatever the abstract says. You need to have some one designated in this role; it's like someone has to be responsible for safety, someone has to be responsible for first aid. A large company may well have a specific person whose job is only to do this, but most don't.
The way I see it is that the EU demands privacy protection for it's citizens. If EU citizens are refused access to all sites that do not comply, then their rights have been dutifully and properly served, and the European Union should consider that tehy have scored a big win.
Seriously - what did they expect?
See my subject & letting you f yourself dumbass https://it.slashdot.org/commen... you inferior moron.
* Don't try "patronize" me BOY when I can show you are less than ZERO fucker... easily.
P.S.=> Your DIM brains are blatantly inferior evidenced by your FAKE NAMES online for FAKE lives of being "ne'er-do-well" scum having the AUDACITY to even TRY "F" w/ me & ones like you you INFERIOR swine as I cast PEARLS before SWINE like you... apk
Uncle Bingo - Hey, howyadoin'? Haven't heard from ya for a while. Good to see you're still kickin' and spunky as ever. Your doctor told us she was going to adjust your Haldol prescription. Looks like just a smidge more, and you'll be just like a regular person. The family will be so happy about that. Love and kisses from all.
Remember to get your computer's consent first.
That is bad, IF the police are in the habit of just shooting suspects. While there are cities in the USA that I would expect to do that sort of thing, I've never heard that the Brits are all that big on "shoot first, question the corpse"...
On the other hand, if all they do is pass the pictures on to a human for follow-up (which follow-up does not include "shoot them, then ask questions"), then it's not that big a deal.
Doood! The whole thread is "let's be positive", so I wrote this is positively bad. You know, like a play on words? He said be positive, so I used it in a sentence. Positively. Wow, tough crowd tonight.
So you are saying it is fine to call other Russians that? You know who else hated both the Russians and the Jews? Hitler, that's who. You liberals became what you used to hate. So fucking pathetic.
You sound like Kathi Newman in her in her "debate" with Jordan Peterson. It's a big cruel world, and for babushkas like you who are genetically missing your humor gland, bigger, more cruel and harder. Laugh a bit my little lobster, it makes you feel better, and more people will like you. I like you because you make me laugh - now isn't that better?
Most of the sites you linked to constitute fake news. Several of the links make little if any mention of the political affiliation of the actors involved.
Don't spam us with your collection of echo chambers.
You are challenged to prove it is fake News there Beuregard. Otherwise I call fake fake new on you.
"Ivan"? Really? You are just a racist bigot. I know what assholes like you call Russians: snow n**gers.
Why should we even care about what you demonrat racists say about America? Go away and fuck yourself.
Why would I call myself a "Snow Noogie? Before you go getting your panties all in a knot, you really ought to not make stupid 100 percent wrong accusations, Sheila. Being an anonymous coward was the smartest thing you've done today.
Rate of 8% successful, meaning almost 1 in 10 people are correctly identified. Not that bad.
That is positively bad.
voter ID is going to do nothing, not one thing but eliminate a trite old chestnut of a talking point.
Then why not do it? What are you (your party) so afraid of? Why the opposition, the BS lawsuits, etc.?
Don't you want to eliminate a talking point of your opponents?
Well Ivan, I am not even remotely a Democrat, and your tipping your bias assuming I am .
I'll try this a little slower. Republicans want the talking point, not the bogus fix. If you read more than the first couple of lines - I am very much in favor of voter Identification. Free, register and get your picture taken and print out a card on the spot. Work it in over time. I already have a Voter ID where I live - Not a problem at all. I would love nothing more than the results of enacting that. REad on to understand exactly why.
Now I'll explain again, since you're having a tough t time on the uptake. There are certain Republican touchstones that can reliably be dragged out to frighten the faithful every election cycle. And one of the big fears is those chocolate people voting. Same with abortion, prayer in schools, Confederate flags and other far right wing existential nightmares.
Here's the important thing Binky - It's politics diversion tactics 101.
Having God fearing Republicans afraid of chocolate people voting is much better at gettting the God fearing Republican people to the polls than actually requiring whatever the latest efforts to keep the Chocolate people away from the polls.
Its why the outrage about removal of the Confederate flag and monuments outrages them so much - they lost a talking point.
And if America suddenly made all abortion illegal and a capital punishment for intentional and manslaughter for accidental fetus death - how are they going to get the far right social conservatives out to vote against the Godless Demoncrats. And their useful idiots fall for it every time. It's like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's football, only to have it jerked out of the way - time after time after time after time.
And the worst part about a national Voter registration? It will catch more Republican fraudsters.
Republicans know full well that there is voter fraud, and that is because so much Voter Fraud is performed by Republicans - highly ranked ones even
Citation needed.
A shitload of citations were provided above. I even quit because I think with the sheer ease of finding Republican Voter Fraud that I was guilding the lily.
And it isn't surprising. A cousin of projection, where typically a person who really wants to engage in homosexual activity but is ashamed will act publicly like he wants them all killed, people who engage in fraud as a matter of course, think that everyone is like them - ie, fraudulent. Of course Republicans are against what they see as fraud by Democrats. They in no way shape or form want to eliminate fraud. They belive that Democrats commit fraud like they do, and want to eliminate that. They still want to vote several times, vote in different areas where they don't live, and believe that fraud is completely acceptable as long as it elects Republicans.
Now go back and read the list of cites I thoughtfully provided. You might have to scroll up a little - hope that isn't too much trouble.
So you want your own chemistry set? I think that ship has sailed in the US. :-p
Safety culture is introducing legislation to ban all chemical reactions.
My big old chemistry set was about as much fun as I ever had. Had a little out building in the back yard too use it in to boot. Want to get more people interested in STEM? maybe we shouldn't act like anything stronger than a vinegar/baking soda is too dangerous.
Our present path is allowing people to have different laws of physics based on political affiliation.
34 million years, that's funny when oldest ice core is 2.7 million years.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know id there is a maximum depth of ice that we can have on earth?
Since Ice will melt under pressure (seriously, put an ice cube in a vice and turn the handle) it would seem to put a limit on how much ice could be stacked before it turns into liquid
"There's no vote fraud!"
Again, BULLSHIT. How can you tell if there's vote fraud if you don't ID the voter? You can't.
Republicans know there is voter fraud. In the first person. https://www.denverpost.com/201...
http://occupydemocrats.com/201...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=946...
http://nhpr.org/post/mancheste...
https://www.arktimes.com/arkan...
http://archive.jsonline.com/ne...
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/...
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...
Yesiree, Republicans know full well that there is voter fraud, and that is because so much Votter Fraud is performed by Republicans - highly ranked ones even - And your wet dream of a voter ID is going to do nothing, not one thing but eliminate a trite old chestnut of a talking point.
Personally, I'm in favor of voter ID - but given that Republicans bring it up every election cycle like it is the cure blessed by God himself for them thar godless commiecrats and their letting them chocolate people - who always commit fraud, amirite? - is just Bullshit - to use your term.
Phase it in, make it free ( hey, maybe we can get that Russian Oligarch who funnels money to Republicans through the NRA to chip in ) and start long before elections.
But how is that going to actually stop Republican election fraud? Or is that Okay because the Republican party has shown it has a lock on the moral high ground?
And be like Linux, where they're constantly rewriting the GUI framework, adding features no one asked for and removing features people use? Sounds a lot like the Windows model.
Except that it works!
And not enough time to test them properly. Microsoft should just support one version of Windows 10, getting rid of superfluous versions like 10S and take the LTSB version and just support that without the six monthly "Windows as a service" updates.
Or better, rewrite the whole thing in Unix.
I think Microsoft just realized that most consumers didn't purchase upgrades anyhow (only "upgrading" when a new computer was purchased), and maintaining several OS lines at the same time was a pain, so in reality, it's more of a cost-saving measure for them by simply keeping everyone on the same branch of Windows.
It would be nice if the gaddamned OS actually worked. W10 is touted as the Most secure version ever, and they cannot fix a critical flaw, they are taking systems that work and rendering them or the sodftwre on them inoperable.
The only thing that they have going for them is Stockholm syndrome.