...not to mention all the schools that can afford nice training facilities. I guess they are cheating because the competition doesn't necessarily have access to the same thing.
Bottom line, if you can afford something better than someone else, you're a cheater.
So, ISPs are already doing this to an extent. Additionally, other businesses around the globe do this sort of thing on a regular basis, though, are not attacked the way ISPs are.
Ski Resorts offer priority to various customers. Some people pay for a regular lift ticket and get to ride a fast chairlift to the top of the mountain. Those who don't buy a lift ticket have to hike. How come the people with money get to buy their way to a faster trip up a mountain that is on public land? Not to mention the people who buy the "fast pass" version of a lift ticket that get to skip the line at the lift altogether.
Airports now have a similar "fast pass" thing where they can skip the security check lines and get through faster. There is also priority boarding for people who pay for it.
Toll roads that bypass busy urban corridors allow those willing to pay to avoid heavy traffic and get to work/home faster.
And then there are those darn people with medical insurance. Hospitals admit them because they can afford to pay their insurance premium, while people without insurance or with incompatible insurance are told to take a hike and find another hospital (happened to me once)
And what about those snazzy clubs that don't let in the greasy fat guy, but allow sexy women to come and go as they please?
Retail businesses that deal with regular customers provide better customer service to people who spend more money.
Web sites that offer members faster shipping for purchases.
What makes NN different than so many other industries? Is it because the vocal proponents of NN fear the ISP is out to get them and will pick on the people who are using the most traffic?
For what it's worth, when I was working a special education treatment facility, I refused to join the union, and I wasn't harassed by anyone.
I was simply told that should a situation arise when I might a lawyer because of a baseless claim of abuse or something, the union would not be there to help me. I was fine with that.
Though I'm sure in other districts this kind of stuff does regularly happen.
Instead of objective discussion,/. seems to (these days) often revolve around people throwing anger around. I simply wouldn't be surprised when people find something... anything to bitch and moan about. Heck, my post was tagged as flamebait initially. I suppose that's not too far off, but it's simply discouraging when people are so quick to make knee-jerk reactions to anything just for the sake of doing so.
Intelligence isn't the only part of the equation. Luck does play it's role, but so does brawn. Regulations that level the playing field do nothing but add to the notion that "All men are created equal."
All men are NOT created equal, evolutionarily speaking. If that were the case, the animal kingdom wouldn't favor mates who have the brightest, strongest, fastest, biggest, etc.
It comes down to one factor. Who is the most fit to survive? Fitness has certainly changed it's meaning over the ages. Unfortunately, what we have now is people who live thousands of miles away making declarations on who is fittest (or isn't).
The human race is now stagnated. There is less motivation than ever to ensure the fittest survive.
Or they could photograph their privacy hedges and send them to me. Filling an image catalog of thousands of species of mature plants by myself is difficult enough. I can use all the help I can get.
My sig does a decent enough job explaining the reason I would prefer a free market. It's a reference to a song. Look it up and give it some genuine thought. When it comes down to it, I am a Darwinist.
I might appear contradictory at first, but that's not the case. I just thinks there are way too many people in this world and the main reason is because people no longer have to think for themselves.
The way I see it, any person arguing the case in favor of NN who also owns stocks, mutual funds, etc of any kind has no place in the argument.
Corporations work to appease shareholders. Shareholders work to appease themselves, their lifestyle, their trophy wife, or whatever. People want to better themselves financially, so they invest their money in things.
The reason this is such an issue is that the divide between people who prefer to invest in themselves and the people who prefer to invest in everyone else is so vast. Some people like to have power over their own lives, while others prefer to have their lives sanctioned by a central authority. Maybe one is right and one is wrong, and maybe one group is smaller than the other. What if the group that was right was the minority? Does it still make them right if the majority disagrees?
Ah, the crux of the entire argument. Of course, it depends on the frame of reference. If the guy downloading 100GB of porn is saving money and avoiding litigation because he can get his jollies without having to waste money at strip clubs, truck stops, and his nearby school, well that is a good thing for him.
Liberty is only liberty as long as you don't infringe on the liberty of others. In this case, he is infringing on your liberty to read things, send mean messages, or generally do whatever it is you do when you visit/. while slurping down joe. But why is it necessarily his fault? He's just panking some wud.
Personally, I like my unlimited DSL connection as well as my unlimited mobile connection. I don't download 100GB of porn on it, I imagine I would end up with some really gross things if I did. For less than $150/mo, I have access to all the internet I want, at speeds I find acceptable.
Thanks. That number seemed a bit suspect. Though, I suppose it could have been worded a little differently so that it was clear it is the spirit that powers the economy, versus the other spirits produced in Scotland.
Don't Scots also have logs and sheep? Once a year near Santa Cruz people dress up in kilts and throw huge-ass logs for fun. I also recall a joke about a sheep and a cliff.
One of those? Do yourself a favor a find a good bottle. As with most hard booze, the bad stuff is bad and the good stuff is good. Tequila gets a bad rap, mainly because of Jose Cuervo, which is not even tequila but "mixtos" which is part tequila, part cheap sugars mixed in, hence the horrendous hangovers.
Even cooler is mezcal, which is made from another variety of Agave (agave americana vs. agave tequilana). Agave americana, known commonly as Century Plant, is hands down the stoutest plant you will ever see. Take a trip to Alcatraz and check out the natural security barrier made with A. americana, it is a truly impressive use of plants to defend an island. The Western Garden Book (though often containing erroneous info) describes A. americana:
Be sure you really want one before planting, as they are formidable to remove.
Not a lie. I feel into one once. My neck appeared as if I was attacked by a mountain lion.
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I also agree. It seems unfair for people that pay for something to be subject to the same rules as people who didn't pay for it.
...not to mention all the schools that can afford nice training facilities. I guess they are cheating because the competition doesn't necessarily have access to the same thing.
Bottom line, if you can afford something better than someone else, you're a cheater.
So, ISPs are already doing this to an extent. Additionally, other businesses around the globe do this sort of thing on a regular basis, though, are not attacked the way ISPs are.
What makes NN different than so many other industries? Is it because the vocal proponents of NN fear the ISP is out to get them and will pick on the people who are using the most traffic?
We have a machine at work that cuts letters and designs and stuff out of rolls of adhesive vinyl for making signs, etc.
It is connected to a Win95 machine via serial cable.
It works terrific and has done so for ten years.
For what it's worth, when I was working a special education treatment facility, I refused to join the union, and I wasn't harassed by anyone.
I was simply told that should a situation arise when I might a lawyer because of a baseless claim of abuse or something, the union would not be there to help me. I was fine with that.
Though I'm sure in other districts this kind of stuff does regularly happen.
Nature of the beast?
Instead of objective discussion, /. seems to (these days) often revolve around people throwing anger around. I simply wouldn't be surprised when people find something... anything to bitch and moan about. Heck, my post was tagged as flamebait initially. I suppose that's not too far off, but it's simply discouraging when people are so quick to make knee-jerk reactions to anything just for the sake of doing so.
Devil's advocate =! flamebait.
Meritocracy at work. It's nice to see, and I'm sure I will hear all sorts of complaints about how it is neither fair nor effective.
I would have chosen HHGTG myself (text ver.)
I personally learned quite a bit from that game playing it when I was about 11.
These are college freshmen. They only know iPod and Facebook.
too lazy; downed ritalin?
So not only is the moon getting further away from us, it is getting smaller as well. Please, do your part to keep the moon close.
Intelligence isn't the only part of the equation. Luck does play it's role, but so does brawn. Regulations that level the playing field do nothing but add to the notion that "All men are created equal."
All men are NOT created equal, evolutionarily speaking. If that were the case, the animal kingdom wouldn't favor mates who have the brightest, strongest, fastest, biggest, etc.
It comes down to one factor. Who is the most fit to survive? Fitness has certainly changed it's meaning over the ages. Unfortunately, what we have now is people who live thousands of miles away making declarations on who is fittest (or isn't).
The human race is now stagnated. There is less motivation than ever to ensure the fittest survive.
I agree to a point, but I feel the regs should still be in place to prevent an unfair advantage.
You mean like being more fit to survive? I say tough shit.
Or they could photograph their privacy hedges and send them to me. Filling an image catalog of thousands of species of mature plants by myself is difficult enough. I can use all the help I can get.
and this asshole (Jens Best) wants to say "FUCK YOU, I'm going to go against you because I can,
It's a two way street. (pun? sorry.)
Living in glass houses, stones, all that stuff.
I might appear contradictory at first, but that's not the case. I just thinks there are way too many people in this world and the main reason is because people no longer have to think for themselves.
The way I see it, any person arguing the case in favor of NN who also owns stocks, mutual funds, etc of any kind has no place in the argument.
Corporations work to appease shareholders. Shareholders work to appease themselves, their lifestyle, their trophy wife, or whatever. People want to better themselves financially, so they invest their money in things.
The reason this is such an issue is that the divide between people who prefer to invest in themselves and the people who prefer to invest in everyone else is so vast. Some people like to have power over their own lives, while others prefer to have their lives sanctioned by a central authority. Maybe one is right and one is wrong, and maybe one group is smaller than the other. What if the group that was right was the minority? Does it still make them right if the majority disagrees?
I always wonder why Americans treat regulation as something inherently bad.
Blame King George.
Ah, the crux of the entire argument. Of course, it depends on the frame of reference. If the guy downloading 100GB of porn is saving money and avoiding litigation because he can get his jollies without having to waste money at strip clubs, truck stops, and his nearby school, well that is a good thing for him.
Liberty is only liberty as long as you don't infringe on the liberty of others. In this case, he is infringing on your liberty to read things, send mean messages, or generally do whatever it is you do when you visit /. while slurping down joe. But why is it necessarily his fault? He's just panking some wud.
Personally, I like my unlimited DSL connection as well as my unlimited mobile connection. I don't download 100GB of porn on it, I imagine I would end up with some really gross things if I did. For less than $150/mo, I have access to all the internet I want, at speeds I find acceptable.
Can you imagine if we didn't have the SEC, the FDA, price gouging laws, consumer protection laws... etc...
Yeah, maybe people would actually have to *gasp* think for themselves.
/. effect? Or was this removed? I click the link, "The product you are looking for does not exist."
Which law? Judicial or canon? As someone attending a Jesuit university, this is of concern.
Clearly you have never seen any of the Predator movies.
Thanks. That number seemed a bit suspect. Though, I suppose it could have been worded a little differently so that it was clear it is the spirit that powers the economy, versus the other spirits produced in Scotland.
Don't Scots also have logs and sheep? Once a year near Santa Cruz people dress up in kilts and throw huge-ass logs for fun. I also recall a joke about a sheep and a cliff.
tequila is gross
One of those? Do yourself a favor a find a good bottle. As with most hard booze, the bad stuff is bad and the good stuff is good. Tequila gets a bad rap, mainly because of Jose Cuervo, which is not even tequila but "mixtos" which is part tequila, part cheap sugars mixed in, hence the horrendous hangovers.
Even cooler is mezcal, which is made from another variety of Agave (agave americana vs. agave tequilana). Agave americana, known commonly as Century Plant, is hands down the stoutest plant you will ever see. Take a trip to Alcatraz and check out the natural security barrier made with A. americana, it is a truly impressive use of plants to defend an island. The Western Garden Book (though often containing erroneous info) describes A. americana:
Be sure you really want one before planting, as they are formidable to remove.
Not a lie. I feel into one once. My neck appeared as if I was attacked by a mountain lion.