Heh...opt out of being in a phone book? I guess spammers are now going to ask ya for $25 not to be listed in their database, but still give yer address out to a select number of fine folks that payed a lot more than you did to get rid it removed.
The Phone company has nothing Opt about this...it is a private company and they do what they want.
Now the gov't on the other hand, I think should publish anything and everything about who voted and how they voted. Fuck this Anonymous Coward thing in the Polls. If you want to participate in gov't, and I think everyone should be forced to - at gun point if neccessary, you should be forced to justify your decision. I don't care if the justification is that George Bush seems to be a Nice Guy and you really hate that Nasty Intellectual and I add Morally Corrupt Al Gore that thinks he's going to save the country by taking my hard earned money and spending it on the environment. I don't care if its because Nader is the snazziest dresser or Haiglen thinks some Raja can give us all Crystal Power but then backs it up with scientific claims.
Votes should not be private. If you want to participate in the gov't there are certain freedoms you must give up. I mean would we vote for candidates that want to conduct congress in secrecy?
Anywho, other than information that is already public, you ain't loosing by the systems thats in place. Other information, such as yer Party of choice, are only recorded when you vote in the primaries and these really have no influence over the real elections except what the dumbasses that seem to think that ya have to vote in a binary system anyways...heh, I'm pretty sure that I voted for the opposing political party in the last primary because I really hated one of the guys running and thought the other was a much better candidate who has given his life for the service of us little people. I know others that did the same thing with their parties, be it Voting for McCain who is a far better candidate than Bush or Bradley whom would have made a far better candidate on the Dem side.
I'm not sure if I like this idea anymore than any other. Napster to me has always been about trying out new music so that I can go out and buy it. I've got alot of friends who are exactly the opposite and believe that the whole point is so they don't have to buy any music what so ever.
What is going to be the cost of this service? Is it a monthly fee or per downloadable. A monthly fee isn't too bad, but per downloadable and I'm just not going to use it. Are these still going to be in standard MP3 format, or are they going to start watermarking the files, or worse putting them in some secure format. Will I be able to use ths service at work as well as home, or is the RIAA going to get all nutty on my ass and say that these songs are licensed for one computer.
Worse yet, how is this going to effect the Person to Person aspects of Napster. I've got friends that share mixes of their songs not available on CDs (heh...sometimes at great risk to their own careers). What about all the other little bands on smaller labels. I understand the artists have the right to choose how they want their sounds distributed and fully support this, but if the P2P aspect of Napster goes away, it will be like the Walmarting of America. Only those approved to distribute through this medium will be allowed to do it now. Will be be subject to only getting the censored versions of songs? Will their be other restrictions that we don't know about?
There are half a dozen other things I'd like to see answered before this goes into effect. As a musician and a consumer, this sounds like a really bad thing. Oh well, Indiana University cut off my access to Napster here at work anyways and had to go the OpenNap route. Maybe I'll just do the same at home as well.
No, its not a bad analogy,/.ers just don't understand that ripping off a company just because they think the company is ripping off the artist (meaning the artists is getting ripped off twice) should be common pracitice, cause like infermation wuntz 2 B free.
I know artists on both sides of the fence. Some are great musicians, but horrid horrid businessmen. These folks need the traditional distribution schemes...their music would never be heard if it were not for big media companies. I know other folks that deal with their music online, started their own lables and make most of their money from touring and selling their discs on tour. An $8 disc bought from these guys have a hell of a lot more profit potential for these guys than the $16 discs you'll buy from Best Buy (heh...I haven't bought anything in a record store in over a year so I don't really know if this is the correct pricing). Then again, there are artists like myself that could care less about the whole money aspect of music as we have great day jobs that allow for the fact that our music is so far from the commerical aspect that we don't even worry if we will ever sell anything:)
The fact is it is not our right to say how someone elses wants their art distributed. If you don't like paying the price for the RIAA crap, just don't listen to it.
"I would prefer to pay more than a $1 in royalties to an artist out of the $16 cost of a CD."
I am so sick of this argument. Does this mean you can go to the local BurgerWop and steal a few burgers, but tip the underpaid frontline staff a few bucks. These poor underpaid artists are there because they signed contracts and wanted the marketting and distribution given by these bastard RIAA companies. See Harmony Central for an insiders view on why traditional RIAA approaches are good for quite a bit of artists.
It looks like they are only using the logic boards in these things not the whole damn system, so yer not going to see different gummy colors. Yeah, I know that was probably a flip remark, but it seems as though most/. editors don't bother reading these links anymore either.
Has anyone looked inside the iMacs? Not much there except the monitor. You could probably fit 4 of the logic boards into the space of one G4 server.
They were testing this stuff earlier this year at several tech expos. I received a card worth (I think) worth $50 for sitting there and answering a few questions. They could have just as easily emailed me the numbers and said here ya go, use it online instead of giving me a piece of plastic that was worthless after just one usage.
Hmm...looking through my wallet I still got it...I probably still have a dollar or two on this card if anyone wants it:-)
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Blah...to be honest, I really wish I had more of these things. Much easier than carrying cash, and I don't have to worry thieves getting access to my Debit Card (long since gave up the credit thing...) and depleting my account and waiting the 8 months for my lousy bank to redebit the 2 grand the fuckers stole and charged up 4 days after reporting it stolen.
Because $50M would be burned up in less than a few weeks, these guys go bankrupt for the same reasons this project ain't running leaving these things stranded in a declining LEO til one of the birds fell on Bumfart, Siberia killing someone's pet Raindeer, Mot is sued because they put the damn things up in the first place, and as they are a US Company the venue would most definately be here in the United States of Litegation.
Why the hell is this marker funny. It is satire, but not funny. Hairy is entirely correct. You do not have absolute privacy in the real world. If you want absolute privacy, set up a fucking unibomber cabin in the woods and hunt for your food.
Then again, if yer hunting most animals, you'd probably need a Hunting License, you yer gonna be stuck with probably a mostly vegitarian and what ever died on my doorstep diet.
Remember folks, living in a civilized society means some amounts of privacy are given away for the common good. If you really care if others know what you buy at the grocery store, ya gots problems. I'm pretty much a vegetarian, and the worst thing I could think of would be the fact that I have to pick up some chicken breasts for my sis. Oh no, I'm contributing to the mass execution of chickens...I'm a collaborator and will be taken hostage when PETA takes over. Given that this is truely unlikely, ya'll just need to fucking get over it.
I swear some people are just too paranoid. Then again, if I lived in my parents basement and watched x-files everyday, I probably would be too.
Dammit, why the fuck is this even a question for/.??? First of all, it is not censorship for a biz to say "I don't want certain things on my computers'. As an employee, I wouldn't want my boss telling me this, but then again I've had to put the smack down on people in my office that were looking at porn where customers and other employees could see it. I thought about installing censorware, but decided that it would be much easier to fire the employee after his second warning (the first was when a new employee 18 year old girl came in crying because he was showing other employees 'BigAssBitches').
As a biz owner, you can do what ever you want. If your customers don't want to see it, then thats the audience you have to please. If your customers want porn, close the door to minors and have at it too (though the biz license would probably be harder to come by).
Now if it were the Gov't censoring shit, like the gov't saying ya can't have violent games played on public property like here in Indianapolis (though this still doesn't effect private property 'cause Jillian's still had my favorite sniper game as of last week), I'd say it was a/. story.
Exactly. New users need a way to get into a system without having to memorize 15 O'reily books. I know my way around a computer and spent several weeks installing a BSD System a few years back on a 486. After I got it up and running, I went back to my Macs and PCs.
Early last year, I installed a Red Hat system...it was a world of difference from having to compile everything from scratch and hoping ya had drivers for every piece of hardware ya had (didn't have CD Drivers for my drive at that point...). I was up and running in an hour. For about 6 months I used Linux Config for just about everything. Its easy enough to use even in straight telnetable text.
If it wasn't for Linux Config, I wouldn't have been running the system and I would have given up on it and gone back to the NT network I administer. Now, I can't even use Linix config because it kills most of the changes I've made to the sendmail config files and otherwise.
Users need a way to get use to a system first and then figure out all the geeky things that we all love. The more GUI based admin tools the better (and let hope these new ones don't kill config files just because they don't understand what yer working on...)
Its not treating Art as a Commodity to want to get paid. While I work with professional artists on a regular basis, this is not my main job. Hell, most of the time I am working with these folks, it is because I am getting to work with the people I consider heros in my life...I took my last vacation to work two weeks unpaid on a friends album, so obviously it ain't about getting paid for me either.
Now on the otherhand, I have a pretty well stocked home studio. A lot of this comes from doing beta testing for various instrument companies but another part comes from just plain hard work. I've done several jobs where I've worked simply to get another piece of equipment where I wouldn't have been able to do so if I wasn't look at art as pseudo-commodity stock. Its great for the amatures to say they ain't in it for the money, but what do ya say when ya want to buy that nice $20k console and yer day job ain't cutting it. Theres no way in hell I could justify something like this if I wasn't a professional (which I'm not...just a partially compensated amature as well).
To be honest, I really don't think most/.ers know what kinda expense it take to make an album (or a movie or software or anything that can be put in a downloadable form thus must be free). If ya wanna be purely idealistic, quit yer corporate jobs, move to country and start up a geek community. If ya wanna try to live idealisticly but know that ya have to throw in a little realism, keep yer day jobs and know that Art doesn't have to be a commodity, but it sure helps at times (and doesn't necessaritly mean giving away yer soul).
"I write software. You "pirate" the software. I have software. You have software. You haven't taken anything _from_ me, rather, I have given something to you, with no loss to myself. If you're implying the thing taken is money, not the information itself, that's on the periphery, and not considered in your analogy."
This is just utter bullshit. I write software for a living. If you take it without paying me, I AM OUT MONEY. I wouldn't be writting the type of software I do if I wasn't getting paid, and you wouldn't be using it. I write a lot of educational software that are used in High Schools and Colleges. This is stuff that would not be helping anyone if someone didn't pay for it. Because I choose to work on software that I feel helps others, I am excluding myself from a lot of lucrative offers I could easily go out and get and work for big business.
The attitude that software does not cost usually comes from people that do not program, or if they do, have never done shit that any one would want anyways.
Now on the other hand, I have finally convinced my boss to GPL a computer adaptive testing package we developed a few years back. As soon as we get clearance from one other copyright holder (so we can give the item bank with this) it will be in the public domain. Still, this was software we have deemed appropriate to give out. It cost us a lot of money to design develop and test...even giving it away for free means we are loosing money that would have probably gone back into the design of new software or improvement of this one. I doubt if many geeks have the psychometric backgrounds to improve this much on their own, but I can always hope someone finds it of use.
Bullshit. I use a PC at work and do the same damn thing. I don't have Word installed on my NT server and my boss always sends me crap that I can't open because he is too lazy to send plain text emails. I have Acrobat installed outta necessity but thats about it. All others, I end up having to go to another room or pull out my powerbook to read the attachments.
Am I keeping NT Server users down by saying this? NT Servers are useless because you can't run Word and WebServers and File Servers and thing else on the same box (errr...BillG would hae ya think ya can though...probably the reason most geeks can't run a stable NT Box is that they can't realize the limitations of the OS and install crap as they do their linux boxes...I can't kill my Linux boxes no matter how much I install, though it sure does slow things down).
Anyways, not trying to be too offensive about this, but ya got to realize it happens on the same platform as the sender is sending.
The prob I have with noise is that I do quite a bit of accoustic recording. I swear to gawd that every damn recording I have naturally has computer fan noise in the background. Noise reduction software does little to fix these as thay all have artifacting associated with them (not that those that think MP3s are CD quality would ever notice though). My Powerbook makes no noise, but I can't hook up my Darla to it. iMacs are great, but they can't accept PCI card.
A fanless computer would do a lot to solve my probs. Right now, I just hook up long wires (actually a KVM remote) and run the CPU outside of the pianer room where it don't make no noise.
Actually, so long as IIS is separated from NT, we're probably safe. Right now, IIS is `free' (i.e. bundled) with NT. This means any company with NT servers automatically has an NT+IIS WWW server on their hands - so why would they want to use another WWW server like Apache? They've already got one!
Having IIS with NT/2000 is a godsend. I run Apache on a few of my servers but would not wish this upon most of whom I work with. IIS Is perfect for the Windows mindset and is structured accordingly. The only thing I wish it had was built in.HTACCESS type security as I have to deal with this from an admin POV instead of pointing my users to a help file that explains how to set up security on their own (and then having to do it myself because they can't follow directions and command lines scare the bejeezus outta them).
I'd hate to see Apache on NT (yeah I knows its there)...still working out some of the probs I have with Perl / IIS. I'm not slamming Apache as I use it almost exclusively for one of my side businesses, but were all geeks there and it makes sense. Use the best tool for the job, and don't try to shoehorn software where it doesn't fit: Microsoft already does enough of that for us...
Ya mean FAIR use, and yes, anything ya say in a public place can be considered fair game to be reposted if done appropriately. Ie., ya can't quote a whole damn chapter of someones book and put it out on the net, but ya might be able to publish a paragraph here or there depending on the context.
If ya don't want something ya said reproduced, don't say it in a public place.
You can access DLLs and the like with Scripts (VB Scripts, etc) on the Win Side. If you were to release this on the linux side, you could as easily have written a Perl Script. Do perl scripts that access GPL'd software (most of what I use under Redhat) need to be GPL'd as well? No. Then again, if ya wanna be completely legit about it, ya might need to make it a seperate download.
Doesn't anyone fricken read...it says about every Web-Hosting Provider. It doesn't say Web-Server. I run a small ISP and I got a few LinuxBoxes and 1 NT Box. The NT shit is a necessity due to corps requiring it. Who am I to complain about this? I make them sign a waver incase something like this comes around that says I'm not responsible at all for M$s problems and more secure webservers are available for cheaper hosting within my company (I charge 2x for the M$ stuff and also charge for every bit of permissions I have to change and every ODBC I have to set up...ya know stuff any gimpie could do from the terminal on Apache).
Learn to read, and don't think just because you have a box set up in the corner you are the average provider...
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Dammit, I hate posting anonymously...I feel like such a coward.
I've got a lot of friends from outside of the America's both from picking up roommates (I got a huge house near my univerity) and those I deal with online. Still, what is their to care about as an American outside of the US???
I swear we only get involved in extra-american politics just because we are bored (that and most European countrys are too fucking pacifistic to take care of dictators and murders in their backyards...I got into this arguement with an exroommate during the Serbian crap that we had no reason to be involved with other that the fact that ya Europeans simply tried to wish the problem away...)
So why is their the Americas and Everything Else? Because we have enough of our own problems and we could close our doors to the rest of the world and still not be any worse for it...hell, I think most around here would be far happier if we did close our doors and just ignore the rest of the world and take care of our own problems (and believe me...I'd rather have our problems and our perceived limited freedoms and all that compared to any other country in the world.) Those anti-americans out their, go solve your own problems for a few years, and then maybe we can talk again...
Fuck it, I'm going to get marked down as Troll, and I hope enough of you do it so I permanently loose my +2 bonus, but I'm unselecting the Anonymous buttong as I feel anyone should stand up for their beliefs (misspellings and all).
Echo has announced earlier on their web site that they are not supporting OpenSource for their line of cards. I don't know if this means the driver will never be available or if they just won't OpenSource them and maybe provide a binary at some point. Check their website for more information.
Hmmm....is it really your decision on who gets the money? The Artist signed the contract with the Label. This is a decision between the artist and those he chose to go into business with, not your and your moral conciousness.
I don't like record labels anymore more than the next guy, but it is a viable method of distribution and lot of my friends go this method. They know the risks before going in. Musicians are not as fucking stoopid as people make them out to be. They also know that few (practically none...can probably count them on one hand) are getting any kind of money from the MP3 distribution methods.
Its like the Steven King (ick...) eBook success...geeks are now going to tout that as a reason that all books can be eBooks and make a profit when the real reason it sold was it was King and nothin' more.
So before others start talking about how not giving the money to the artist, remember how ya got to know the artist. And if you are realy that concerned, start a label yourself and don't be the assholes that you think these other companies are. I know a few that have started their own labels for this very reason...simply to own their own recording and to profit share with any other artist that they pick up.
Sorry this came off as condesending. I feel everyone needs to express themselves somehow. I'm talking about this from a Professional point of view. I am a horrible guitarist and will probably never progress beyond 4 chords because I enjoy the braindead mentality of this type of playing. I would never call myself anything more than an amature with this instrument, but I enjoy it.
The point was making was that what is killing linux is the lack of professionality. I am mainly a Mac user, but it kills me when people tak about switching to the PC because their are so much more in the way of Music apps. As a professional, this is far from the truth. I keep a PC around to pick these apps us, but they do nothing for me except as a creative tool. I love sample based mediums. I hate the idea that todays culture can take the braindead sample based mediums and promote them as High Art.
for more on this (Props to my man peters @ pyramid for sending this the other day...and I got the/. html stuff fixed this time...preview clif...preview:)
I'm sorry that it sounded like I was being condecending, I was trying to be real when people are asking for honest opinions as to what needs to be done. It wasn't my intent to insult any musicians out there.
I'm gonna get slammed on this, but what the Hacker culture here doesn't understand is what professionals want to need. Heck, this could sum up the reason why Linux is going to be a hard sell to replace the desktop of any platform.
Shit, this is one of the problems with all the shareware apps on the Win side. All the little bedroom 'musicians' grab a free groovebox type application and think they are a real musician. It's the whole DJ philosophy, let someone else do my work for me. Grab a few musicians aside, and ask what is the most important thing to them. Get real people involved and go at it.
You know what would just rock my world as a musican...a good free multitrack recorder. The software timing and latency issues would be practically nothing within Linux. Give me something that I can configure under X and then run simply using a serialported LCD, with Midi controls for most of the functions. Get support for a few of the multitrack cards (unfortunately the Echo line has stated they will never open their drivers to the public to maintain quality). Build this, get support for even one card, so that if someone wants to build a DAW cheaply and easily they can. Someone could add features and functions and make a killing off of this simply for the Hardware...
If you are interested in the stuff as a musician, please visit Sonikmatter.com. We are a group of forward thinking professional musicians. We have represenatives from several major corporations, both hardware and software and my co-admins are consultants for many of these companies. Heck, we'd even think about setting up a dedicated Linux forum if their was enough call for it.
Enough shameless selfpromotion, anyways, if ya want musicians to use your software, ya need to work with them, not just say I got this and now use it (hmmm...that seems to be my way of programming as well...doh!). If ya want to know what the non-tech challenged musician os thinking visit us and out forums.
Well MacOS X is using BSD as the core engine and is POSIX compliant.
The older apps may not be able take advantage of this for your very reasons, but newer forward thinking companies will probably look into this and think XCompatibility (or pseudo-xcompatibility). No Mac doesn't use XWindows, but I'd actually prefer my apps to have their windowing environment as an addition to the software not a requirement.
For instance, I received a NFR copy of Bitheadz Unity software. This installs as an extention to your system and has a small app that ya run to connect the midi layer to the engine. They have several of these types of connecting apps for OMS, FreeMidi, Rewire, Direct Serial, etc. Why wouldn't it be possible to build an app that does the same thing these do under a nonwindowing environment...ya don't need the rest of the app(editor, etc) to call up patches and play. Why couldn't someone write a simple engine that would work under Linux and simply dispenses with the stuff ya don't need just for playing purpose. Hell throw in an LCD driver, ya wouldn't even need a monitor if ya were to take this on the road.
I think we have a thread on our forums discussing this all, but this is the closest I could find right now :
Just because you don't see the potential, don't think others haven't. Our forums at Sonikmatter are lined with Hardware and Software manufacturers within the music industry. Almost all of them agree that Soft Synthesis is going to become a bigger reality than straight Hardware Synthesis one day, they just need a platform that they can use and control that isn't overly bloated like the current OSes. This would be the perfect chance to start to change some of their minds to thining more about the free OSes out there.
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Heh...opt out of being in a phone book? I guess spammers are now going to ask ya for $25 not to be listed in their database, but still give yer address out to a select number of fine folks that payed a lot more than you did to get rid it removed.
The Phone company has nothing Opt about this...it is a private company and they do what they want.
Now the gov't on the other hand, I think should publish anything and everything about who voted and how they voted. Fuck this Anonymous Coward thing in the Polls. If you want to participate in gov't, and I think everyone should be forced to - at gun point if neccessary, you should be forced to justify your decision. I don't care if the justification is that George Bush seems to be a Nice Guy and you really hate that Nasty Intellectual and I add Morally Corrupt Al Gore that thinks he's going to save the country by taking my hard earned money and spending it on the environment. I don't care if its because Nader is the snazziest dresser or Haiglen thinks some Raja can give us all Crystal Power but then backs it up with scientific claims.
Votes should not be private. If you want to participate in the gov't there are certain freedoms you must give up. I mean would we vote for candidates that want to conduct congress in secrecy?
Anywho, other than information that is already public, you ain't loosing by the systems thats in place. Other information, such as yer Party of choice, are only recorded when you vote in the primaries and these really have no influence over the real elections except what the dumbasses that seem to think that ya have to vote in a binary system anyways...heh, I'm pretty sure that I voted for the opposing political party in the last primary because I really hated one of the guys running and thought the other was a much better candidate who has given his life for the service of us little people. I know others that did the same thing with their parties, be it Voting for McCain who is a far better candidate than Bush or Bradley whom would have made a far better candidate on the Dem side.
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I'm not sure if I like this idea anymore than any other. Napster to me has always been about trying out new music so that I can go out and buy it. I've got alot of friends who are exactly the opposite and believe that the whole point is so they don't have to buy any music what so ever.
What is going to be the cost of this service? Is it a monthly fee or per downloadable. A monthly fee isn't too bad, but per downloadable and I'm just not going to use it. Are these still going to be in standard MP3 format, or are they going to start watermarking the files, or worse putting them in some secure format. Will I be able to use ths service at work as well as home, or is the RIAA going to get all nutty on my ass and say that these songs are licensed for one computer.
Worse yet, how is this going to effect the Person to Person aspects of Napster. I've got friends that share mixes of their songs not available on CDs (heh...sometimes at great risk to their own careers). What about all the other little bands on smaller labels. I understand the artists have the right to choose how they want their sounds distributed and fully support this, but if the P2P aspect of Napster goes away, it will be like the Walmarting of America. Only those approved to distribute through this medium will be allowed to do it now. Will be be subject to only getting the censored versions of songs? Will their be other restrictions that we don't know about?
There are half a dozen other things I'd like to see answered before this goes into effect. As a musician and a consumer, this sounds like a really bad thing. Oh well, Indiana University cut off my access to Napster here at work anyways and had to go the OpenNap route. Maybe I'll just do the same at home as well.
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No, its not a bad analogy, /.ers just don't understand that ripping off a company just because they think the company is ripping off the artist (meaning the artists is getting ripped off twice) should be common pracitice, cause like infermation wuntz 2 B free.
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I know artists on both sides of the fence. Some are great musicians, but horrid horrid businessmen. These folks need the traditional distribution schemes...their music would never be heard if it were not for big media companies. I know other folks that deal with their music online, started their own lables and make most of their money from touring and selling their discs on tour. An $8 disc bought from these guys have a hell of a lot more profit potential for these guys than the $16 discs you'll buy from Best Buy (heh...I haven't bought anything in a record store in over a year so I don't really know if this is the correct pricing). Then again, there are artists like myself that could care less about the whole money aspect of music as we have great day jobs that allow for the fact that our music is so far from the commerical aspect that we don't even worry if we will ever sell anything
The fact is it is not our right to say how someone elses wants their art distributed. If you don't like paying the price for the RIAA crap, just don't listen to it.
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"I would prefer to pay more than a $1 in royalties to an artist out of the $16 cost of a CD."
I am so sick of this argument. Does this mean you can go to the local BurgerWop and steal a few burgers, but tip the underpaid frontline staff a few bucks. These poor underpaid artists are there because they signed contracts and wanted the marketting and distribution given by these bastard RIAA companies. See Harmony Central for an insiders view on why traditional RIAA approaches are good for quite a bit of artists.
clif
It looks like they are only using the logic boards in these things not the whole damn system, so yer not going to see different gummy colors. Yeah, I know that was probably a flip remark, but it seems as though most /. editors don't bother reading these links anymore either.
Has anyone looked inside the iMacs? Not much there except the monitor. You could probably fit 4 of the logic boards into the space of one G4 server.
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They were testing this stuff earlier this year at several tech expos. I received a card worth (I think) worth $50 for sitting there and answering a few questions. They could have just as easily emailed me the numbers and said here ya go, use it online instead of giving me a piece of plastic that was worthless after just one usage.
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Hmm...looking through my wallet I still got it...I probably still have a dollar or two on this card if anyone wants it
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Blah...to be honest, I really wish I had more of these things. Much easier than carrying cash, and I don't have to worry thieves getting access to my Debit Card (long since gave up the credit thing...) and depleting my account and waiting the 8 months for my lousy bank to redebit the 2 grand the fuckers stole and charged up 4 days after reporting it stolen.
grumble grumble...
clif
Macnn refers to this guy as Juan Gutierrez.
clif
Because $50M would be burned up in less than a few weeks, these guys go bankrupt for the same reasons this project ain't running leaving these things stranded in a declining LEO til one of the birds fell on Bumfart, Siberia killing someone's pet Raindeer, Mot is sued because they put the damn things up in the first place, and as they are a US Company the venue would most definately be here in the United States of Litegation.
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Why the hell is this marker funny. It is satire, but not funny. Hairy is entirely correct. You do not have absolute privacy in the real world. If you want absolute privacy, set up a fucking unibomber cabin in the woods and hunt for your food.
Then again, if yer hunting most animals, you'd probably need a Hunting License, you yer gonna be stuck with probably a mostly vegitarian and what ever died on my doorstep diet.
Remember folks, living in a civilized society means some amounts of privacy are given away for the common good. If you really care if others know what you buy at the grocery store, ya gots problems. I'm pretty much a vegetarian, and the worst thing I could think of would be the fact that I have to pick up some chicken breasts for my sis. Oh no, I'm contributing to the mass execution of chickens...I'm a collaborator and will be taken hostage when PETA takes over. Given that this is truely unlikely, ya'll just need to fucking get over it.
I swear some people are just too paranoid. Then again, if I lived in my parents basement and watched x-files everyday, I probably would be too.
clif
Dammit, why the fuck is this even a question for /.??? First of all, it is not censorship for a biz to say "I don't want certain things on my computers'. As an employee, I wouldn't want my boss telling me this, but then again I've had to put the smack down on people in my office that were looking at porn where customers and other employees could see it. I thought about installing censorware, but decided that it would be much easier to fire the employee after his second warning (the first was when a new employee 18 year old girl came in crying because he was showing other employees 'BigAssBitches').
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As a biz owner, you can do what ever you want. If your customers don't want to see it, then thats the audience you have to please. If your customers want porn, close the door to minors and have at it too (though the biz license would probably be harder to come by).
Now if it were the Gov't censoring shit, like the gov't saying ya can't have violent games played on public property like here in Indianapolis (though this still doesn't effect private property 'cause Jillian's still had my favorite sniper game as of last week), I'd say it was a
Enough of my complaining about a nonissue.
clif
Exactly. New users need a way to get into a system without having to memorize 15 O'reily books. I know my way around a computer and spent several weeks installing a BSD System a few years back on a 486. After I got it up and running, I went back to my Macs and PCs.
Early last year, I installed a Red Hat system...it was a world of difference from having to compile everything from scratch and hoping ya had drivers for every piece of hardware ya had (didn't have CD Drivers for my drive at that point...). I was up and running in an hour. For about 6 months I used Linux Config for just about everything. Its easy enough to use even in straight telnetable text.
If it wasn't for Linux Config, I wouldn't have been running the system and I would have given up on it and gone back to the NT network I administer. Now, I can't even use Linix config because it kills most of the changes I've made to the sendmail config files and otherwise.
Users need a way to get use to a system first and then figure out all the geeky things that we all love. The more GUI based admin tools the better (and let hope these new ones don't kill config files just because they don't understand what yer working on...)
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clif
Its not treating Art as a Commodity to want to get paid. While I work with professional artists on a regular basis, this is not my main job. Hell, most of the time I am working with these folks, it is because I am getting to work with the people I consider heros in my life...I took my last vacation to work two weeks unpaid on a friends album, so obviously it ain't about getting paid for me either.
/.ers know what kinda expense it take to make an album (or a movie or software or anything that can be put in a downloadable form thus must be free). If ya wanna be purely idealistic, quit yer corporate jobs, move to country and start up a geek community. If ya wanna try to live idealisticly but know that ya have to throw in a little realism, keep yer day jobs and know that Art doesn't have to be a commodity, but it sure helps at times (and doesn't necessaritly mean giving away yer soul).
Now on the otherhand, I have a pretty well stocked home studio. A lot of this comes from doing beta testing for various instrument companies but another part comes from just plain hard work. I've done several jobs where I've worked simply to get another piece of equipment where I wouldn't have been able to do so if I wasn't look at art as pseudo-commodity stock. Its great for the amatures to say they ain't in it for the money, but what do ya say when ya want to buy that nice $20k console and yer day job ain't cutting it. Theres no way in hell I could justify something like this if I wasn't a professional (which I'm not...just a partially compensated amature as well).
To be honest, I really don't think most
clif
"I write software. You "pirate" the software. I have software. You have software. You haven't taken anything _from_ me, rather, I have given something to you, with no loss to myself. If you're implying the thing taken is money, not the information itself, that's on the periphery, and not considered in your analogy."
This is just utter bullshit. I write software for a living. If you take it without paying me, I AM OUT MONEY. I wouldn't be writting the type of software I do if I wasn't getting paid, and you wouldn't be using it. I write a lot of educational software that are used in High Schools and Colleges. This is stuff that would not be helping anyone if someone didn't pay for it. Because I choose to work on software that I feel helps others, I am excluding myself from a lot of lucrative offers I could easily go out and get and work for big business.
The attitude that software does not cost usually comes from people that do not program, or if they do, have never done shit that any one would want anyways.
Now on the other hand, I have finally convinced my boss to GPL a computer adaptive testing package we developed a few years back. As soon as we get clearance from one other copyright holder (so we can give the item bank with this) it will be in the public domain. Still, this was software we have deemed appropriate to give out. It cost us a lot of money to design develop and test...even giving it away for free means we are loosing money that would have probably gone back into the design of new software or improvement of this one. I doubt if many geeks have the psychometric backgrounds to improve this much on their own, but I can always hope someone finds it of use.
clif
Bullshit. I use a PC at work and do the same damn thing. I don't have Word installed on my NT server and my boss always sends me crap that I can't open because he is too lazy to send plain text emails. I have Acrobat installed outta necessity but thats about it. All others, I end up having to go to another room or pull out my powerbook to read the attachments.
Am I keeping NT Server users down by saying this? NT Servers are useless because you can't run Word and WebServers and File Servers and thing else on the same box (errr...BillG would hae ya think ya can though...probably the reason most geeks can't run a stable NT Box is that they can't realize the limitations of the OS and install crap as they do their linux boxes...I can't kill my Linux boxes no matter how much I install, though it sure does slow things down).
Anyways, not trying to be too offensive about this, but ya got to realize it happens on the same platform as the sender is sending.
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clif
The prob I have with noise is that I do quite a bit of accoustic recording. I swear to gawd that every damn recording I have naturally has computer fan noise in the background. Noise reduction software does little to fix these as thay all have artifacting associated with them (not that those that think MP3s are CD quality would ever notice though). My Powerbook makes no noise, but I can't hook up my Darla to it. iMacs are great, but they can't accept PCI card.
A fanless computer would do a lot to solve my probs. Right now, I just hook up long wires (actually a KVM remote) and run the CPU outside of the pianer room where it don't make no noise.
clif
I'd hate to see Apache on NT (yeah I knows its there)...still working out some of the probs I have with Perl / IIS. I'm not slamming Apache as I use it almost exclusively for one of my side businesses, but were all geeks there and it makes sense. Use the best tool for the job, and don't try to shoehorn software where it doesn't fit: Microsoft already does enough of that for us...
clif
Ya mean FAIR use, and yes, anything ya say in a public place can be considered fair game to be reposted if done appropriately. Ie., ya can't quote a whole damn chapter of someones book and put it out on the net, but ya might be able to publish a paragraph here or there depending on the context.
If ya don't want something ya said reproduced, don't say it in a public place.
clif
You can access DLLs and the like with Scripts (VB Scripts, etc) on the Win Side. If you were to release this on the linux side, you could as easily have written a Perl Script. Do perl scripts that access GPL'd software (most of what I use under Redhat) need to be GPL'd as well? No. Then again, if ya wanna be completely legit about it, ya might need to make it a seperate download.
clif
Doesn't anyone fricken read...it says about every Web-Hosting Provider. It doesn't say Web-Server. I run a small ISP and I got a few LinuxBoxes and 1 NT Box. The NT shit is a necessity due to corps requiring it. Who am I to complain about this? I make them sign a waver incase something like this comes around that says I'm not responsible at all for M$s problems and more secure webservers are available for cheaper hosting within my company (I charge 2x for the M$ stuff and also charge for every bit of permissions I have to change and every ODBC I have to set up...ya know stuff any gimpie could do from the terminal on Apache).
Learn to read, and don't think just because you have a box set up in the corner you are the average provider...
clif
Dammit, I hate posting anonymously...I feel like such a coward.
I've got a lot of friends from outside of the America's both from picking up roommates (I got a huge house near my univerity) and those I deal with online. Still, what is their to care about as an American outside of the US???
I swear we only get involved in extra-american politics just because we are bored (that and most European countrys are too fucking pacifistic to take care of dictators and murders in their backyards...I got into this arguement with an exroommate during the Serbian crap that we had no reason to be involved with other that the fact that ya Europeans simply tried to wish the problem away...)
So why is their the Americas and Everything Else? Because we have enough of our own problems and we could close our doors to the rest of the world and still not be any worse for it...hell, I think most around here would be far happier if we did close our doors and just ignore the rest of the world and take care of our own problems (and believe me...I'd rather have our problems and our perceived limited freedoms and all that compared to any other country in the world.) Those anti-americans out their, go solve your own problems for a few years, and then maybe we can talk again...
Fuck it, I'm going to get marked down as Troll, and I hope enough of you do it so I permanently loose my +2 bonus, but I'm unselecting the Anonymous buttong as I feel anyone should stand up for their beliefs (misspellings and all).
clif
Echo has announced earlier on their web site that they are not supporting OpenSource for their line of cards. I don't know if this means the driver will never be available or if they just won't OpenSource them and maybe provide a binary at some point. Check their website for more information.
clif
Hmmm....is it really your decision on who gets the money? The Artist signed the contract with the Label. This is a decision between the artist and those he chose to go into business with, not your and your moral conciousness.
I don't like record labels anymore more than the next guy, but it is a viable method of distribution and lot of my friends go this method. They know the risks before going in. Musicians are not as fucking stoopid as people make them out to be. They also know that few (practically none...can probably count them on one hand) are getting any kind of money from the MP3 distribution methods.
Its like the Steven King (ick...) eBook success...geeks are now going to tout that as a reason that all books can be eBooks and make a profit when the real reason it sold was it was King and nothin' more.
So before others start talking about how not giving the money to the artist, remember how ya got to know the artist. And if you are realy that concerned, start a label yourself and don't be the assholes that you think these other companies are. I know a few that have started their own labels for this very reason...simply to own their own recording and to profit share with any other artist that they pick up.
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clif
Sorry this came off as condesending. I feel everyone needs to express themselves somehow. I'm talking about this from a Professional point of view. I am a horrible guitarist and will probably never progress beyond 4 chords because I enjoy the braindead mentality of this type of playing. I would never call myself anything more than an amature with this instrument, but I enjoy it.
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The point was making was that what is killing linux is the lack of professionality. I am mainly a Mac user, but it kills me when people tak about switching to the PC because their are so much more in the way of Music apps. As a professional, this is far from the truth. I keep a PC around to pick these apps us, but they do nothing for me except as a creative tool. I love sample based mediums. I hate the idea that todays culture can take the braindead sample based mediums and promote them as High Art.
Check out the article over on salon
www.salon.com/ent/music/feature/2000/03/14/machin
for more on this (Props to my man peters @ pyramid for sending this the other day...and I got the
I'm sorry that it sounded like I was being condecending, I was trying to be real when people are asking for honest opinions as to what needs to be done. It wasn't my intent to insult any musicians out there.
clif
I'm gonna get slammed on this, but what the Hacker culture here doesn't understand is what professionals want to need. Heck, this could sum up the reason why Linux is going to be a hard sell to replace the desktop of any platform.
Shit, this is one of the problems with all the shareware apps on the Win side. All the little bedroom 'musicians' grab a free groovebox type application and think they are a real musician. It's the whole DJ philosophy, let someone else do my work for me. Grab a few musicians aside, and ask what is the most important thing to them. Get real people involved and go at it.
You know what would just rock my world as a musican...a good free multitrack recorder. The software timing and latency issues would be practically nothing within Linux. Give me something that I can configure under X and then run simply using a serialported LCD, with Midi controls for most of the functions. Get support for a few of the multitrack cards (unfortunately the Echo line has stated they will never open their drivers to the public to maintain quality). Build this, get support for even one card, so that if someone wants to build a DAW cheaply and easily they can. Someone could add features and functions and make a killing off of this simply for the Hardware...
If you are interested in the stuff as a musician, please visit Sonikmatter.com. We are a group of forward thinking professional musicians. We have represenatives from several major corporations, both hardware and software and my co-admins are consultants for many of these companies. Heck, we'd even think about setting up a dedicated Linux forum if their was enough call for it.
Enough shameless selfpromotion, anyways, if ya want musicians to use your software, ya need to work with them, not just say I got this and now use it (hmmm...that seems to be my way of programming as well...doh!). If ya want to know what the non-tech challenged musician os thinking visit us and out forums.
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clif
Well MacOS X is using BSD as the core engine and is POSIX compliant.
The older apps may not be able take advantage of this for your very reasons, but newer forward thinking companies will probably look into this and think XCompatibility (or pseudo-xcompatibility). No Mac doesn't use XWindows, but I'd actually prefer my apps to have their windowing environment as an addition to the software not a requirement.
For instance, I received a NFR copy of Bitheadz Unity software. This installs as an extention to your system and has a small app that ya run to connect the midi layer to the engine. They have several of these types of connecting apps for OMS, FreeMidi, Rewire, Direct Serial, etc. Why wouldn't it be possible to build an app that does the same thing these do under a nonwindowing environment...ya don't need the rest of the app(editor, etc) to call up patches and play. Why couldn't someone write a simple engine that would work under Linux and simply dispenses with the stuff ya don't need just for playing purpose. Hell throw in an LCD driver, ya wouldn't even need a monitor if ya were to take this on the road.
I think we have a thread on our forums discussing this all, but this is the closest I could find right now :
http://sonikmatter.com/fo rum/noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000049.html
Just because you don't see the potential, don't think others haven't. Our forums at Sonikmatter are lined with Hardware and Software manufacturers within the music industry. Almost all of them agree that Soft Synthesis is going to become a bigger reality than straight Hardware Synthesis one day, they just need a platform that they can use and control that isn't overly bloated like the current OSes. This would be the perfect chance to start to change some of their minds to thining more about the free OSes out there.
clif