Actually, the fact that there was no "User Unknown" error returned by your mail server is enough proof to the spammer that they sent the spam to a valid email address...
What clicking the "remove me" link does show is that you are a person who reads spam and clicks links contained therein, or takes the time to respond to spam. Call it the sucker-sieve - it helps identify those born every minute. --
I've written a number of large Filemaker Solutions (yes they call them solutions) and use Filemaker extensively to prototype and then recreate the finished product with php and mysql to get more reliabilty and work around some of the limitations of Filemaker and to avoid their ungodly expensive fees.
Another point I should clarify - my tale took place in 1993-1994. Perhaps FMP has matured since then? --
"maxed out the SQL zoom editor" WTF is a zoom editor in Filemaker?
I obviously wasn't clear - I didn't touch FileMaker Pro (I've never even run the program). I audited their Access port of their FileMaker Pro prototype.
. I've never tried to piss nyone off here before but just couldn't help myself this time.
I'm not pissed off; I realized you didn't understand what I was doing - and that's my fault for not being clear. --
I worked for a small company that lost a bid to a client for a database project. We still had other business with the client and this gave us an opportunity to keep in contact with the customer. The winning bid was from a startup that planned to use FileMaker Pro (hey, it's "Pro" - right?) for a multiuser live data-intensive application. The client was won over by the slick buttons. Anywaym their plan was to prototype in FileMaker Pro and port the result to Access. Whee.
After running 150% past the delivery date with no deliverable in sight we asked the client for a meeting, which was granted, wherein we offered to audit their development up to that point and assess the situation. Permission was granted and we were given access to the development code.
What we found was a sham - nothing more than a few forms (no reports), basic tables and a couple queries. All the processing logic was contained in a couple queries (maxed out the SQL zoom editor). Oh, no modules. No, this wasn't a backend/frontend separation. 18 months and not much more than pretty buttons.
The kicker was discovered looking at the table definitions: no primary keys. Unbelievable.
We asked the other company for a meeting - alone - to discuss our findings, give them time for rebutal, etc., before we presented our findings to the client. In this meeting no facts were refuted, only one question was asked: "Why do you need primary keys?"
Then the three parties met and laid it on the line with the client. It was obvious that the other developers were in way over their heads and were going no where, yet slowly.
Resolution? The client stayed with the FileMaker people. Why? Too much time and money invested to change and prestiege. Yep, good old pride. The client would have to admit that he'd screwed up and he couldn't do that.
Moral: you lost the bid, forget about it. Sure, drop a note, but only out of conscience - then move on. --
Interesting - I was the PD for a non-profit Christian format station in 1998 (long story). While researching production and on-air automation systems I came across a complete hardware/software solution that utilized QNX. It was called...looking...ah, thanks, Google: Audicy (I always pronounced it "Audacidy" once I saw the price).
We ended up staying in the Windows realm (for the reason you gave). I wish we had chosen AudioVault or Scott's Studio, but we went with CCC (forgot the meaning) and had trouble after failure after disappointment. (BTW, we continued to use SAW 32 for our production work. Still do, as a matter of fact.)
I've watched Freshmeat for this type of thing for some time but haven't seen anything compelling (except some possible audio editing solutions).
It sure would be nice to use OS/FSF software for non-profit operations! --
Or, kinda like pro-Gates revisionists planting doubt that he actually said some of the less-than-brilliant pronouncements he's made...like taht 640K quote...
Maybe it's late in the day and I've had a few too many late days lately, but I was hit with a sense of awe (like Dave Bowman's surprised realization that there was more - much more - to the monolith than what he imagined) considering FreeNet's possibilities.
I've been listening to naysayers until now. From this point forward, I'm interested.
I bought a home in LA County last November. I had been a happy customer of Earthlink/Verizon DSL at my apartment and asked to have my service moved to my new residence. Yes, the new residence was well within CO distance limitations (same CO as the apartment, nonetheless). Yes, the line test showed I'd be eligible for DSL at my home. But I went with cable.
Why? Simple reason: the earliest installation date for my DSL service would be 60 days from my move-in date! 60 days without broadband - and I work from home 1/2 time. So, I called AT&T Broadband and asked how long it would take to get cable modem access: 6 days from order date (and only that long because I called Wednesday before Thanksgiving!).
Now that I have cable I won't be going back to DSL for any reason. Cable's latency and bandwidth blows the doors off DSL for the same price. Sure, cable is shared - but my neighboors are mostly retirees...
Anyway, I can't believe I put up with DSL as long as I did (when I said I was happy with DSL, it was because ignorance is bliss). Thank goodness for the incredible installation delay! (BTW, I had my cable modem 2 days before I had my local telephone service enabled. Now, that's service!)
It would carry more weight if Microsoft had not already:
Identified Linux (i.e. GPL'ed software) as it's major threat
taken such a beating in the one market it needs for legitimacy - servers (regardless how you look at it, Microsoft is losing server sales to a freely available OS and its tools created and maintained by "hobbiests" - that's got to hurt some egos)
Be dead-set against free software since a certain letter to the Homebrew Computer Club some 25 years ago
I imagine 20 years ago you would proclaim, "Computer? If I want a typewriter, I'll get a typewriter and if I want a calculator, I'll get a calculator, and if I want a game console, I'll buy a Pong machine or a Pinball machine, and if..."
If I want floor polish I'll buy floor polish. If I want a dessert topping...
Clear, persuasive argument. I see my mistake and renounce my position.
I find your argument somewaht weakened by using 20 years as a comparison.
You have a point, however, 20 years ago I was using a PC for those functions - an Apple ][+ with an Epson MX-80 printer. Beyond those functions, I was able to find further use beyond the sum of the parts. And I had a technical edge over many of my peers just because of my familiarity with the converged items. Yes, I was an early adopter, but being such gave me advantages I enjoy today. That's why I referred to forward thinking in my initial response.
If I want a Palm, I'll buy a Palm, if I want an Mp3 player, I'll buy an Mp3 Player.
Now that's advanced thinking. I imagine 20 years ago you would proclaim, "Computer? If I want a typewriter, I'll get a typewriter and if I want a calculator, I'll get a calculator, and if I want a game console, I'll buy a Pong machine or a Pinball machine, and if...". Convergence - it's not just for breakfast anymore...
He's definitely optimized his page for the load and doesn't seem to be suffering too bad. And he's running AOLServer instead of IIS (so he should be immune from the latest nuclear-meltdown-class security hole).
Try this one: assuming that there is no intellectual property "right", what kind of service can you provide to people that they will find of value so that they will pay you?
As soon as you come up with a reason I would perform the service when there was no guarantee I'd be compensated, I will. I will always work on what I love, but I need to eat (well, not as much as I used to, but that's another story). Sure my "creations" could be done by others - but they're busy on other projects (say). Who is going to meet the need of my customer? It's in the best interest of my customer to have me working on "creations" rather than having to dig ditches during the day while making an enterprise-scale backend system as loving art at night.
Come up with an argument for intellectual property rights, assuming that we are living in a society that doesn't already have them.
Your demand is a meaningless burden - we do live in a society that has intellectual property rights. Unless I'm responding to the Unabomber, I don't think either one of us imagines this will change.
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Catalina is a hotbed of spam, let me tell you!
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What clicking the "remove me" link does show is that you are a person who reads spam and clicks links contained therein, or takes the time to respond to spam. Call it the sucker-sieve - it helps identify those born every minute.
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I obviously wasn't clear - I didn't touch FileMaker Pro (I've never even run the program). I audited their Access port of their FileMaker Pro prototype.
I'm not pissed off; I realized you didn't understand what I was doing - and that's my fault for not being clear.--
After running 150% past the delivery date with no deliverable in sight we asked the client for a meeting, which was granted, wherein we offered to audit their development up to that point and assess the situation. Permission was granted and we were given access to the development code.
What we found was a sham - nothing more than a few forms (no reports), basic tables and a couple queries. All the processing logic was contained in a couple queries (maxed out the SQL zoom editor). Oh, no modules. No, this wasn't a backend/frontend separation. 18 months and not much more than pretty buttons.
The kicker was discovered looking at the table definitions: no primary keys. Unbelievable.
We asked the other company for a meeting - alone - to discuss our findings, give them time for rebutal, etc., before we presented our findings to the client. In this meeting no facts were refuted, only one question was asked: "Why do you need primary keys?"
Then the three parties met and laid it on the line with the client. It was obvious that the other developers were in way over their heads and were going no where, yet slowly.
Resolution? The client stayed with the FileMaker people. Why? Too much time and money invested to change and prestiege. Yep, good old pride. The client would have to admit that he'd screwed up and he couldn't do that.
Moral: you lost the bid, forget about it. Sure, drop a note, but only out of conscience - then move on.
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Run far away...
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We ended up staying in the Windows realm (for the reason you gave). I wish we had chosen AudioVault or Scott's Studio, but we went with CCC (forgot the meaning) and had trouble after failure after disappointment. (BTW, we continued to use SAW 32 for our production work. Still do, as a matter of fact.)
I've watched Freshmeat for this type of thing for some time but haven't seen anything compelling (except some possible audio editing solutions).
It sure would be nice to use OS/FSF software for non-profit operations!
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Or, kinda like pro-Gates revisionists planting doubt that he actually said some of the less-than-brilliant pronouncements he's made...like taht 640K quote...
I've been listening to naysayers until now. From this point forward, I'm interested.
Too cool. I'm a member now.
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
Slashdotted, huh?
Me either. I don't have a TV. But AT&T Broadband (formerly MediaOne) didn't require cable TV to get $49.99 cable modem access. Lucky, I guess.
Why? Simple reason: the earliest installation date for my DSL service would be 60 days from my move-in date! 60 days without broadband - and I work from home 1/2 time. So, I called AT&T Broadband and asked how long it would take to get cable modem access: 6 days from order date (and only that long because I called Wednesday before Thanksgiving!).
Now that I have cable I won't be going back to DSL for any reason. Cable's latency and bandwidth blows the doors off DSL for the same price. Sure, cable is shared - but my neighboors are mostly retirees...
Anyway, I can't believe I put up with DSL as long as I did (when I said I was happy with DSL, it was because ignorance is bliss). Thank goodness for the incredible installation delay! (BTW, I had my cable modem 2 days before I had my local telephone service enabled. Now, that's service!)
I work about 15 hours a day, every day. My wife reminds me that my salary, computed hourly, therefore equates to a new hire at McDonalds.
You have a point, however, 20 years ago I was using a PC for those functions - an Apple ][+ with an Epson MX-80 printer. Beyond those functions, I was able to find further use beyond the sum of the parts. And I had a technical edge over many of my peers just because of my familiarity with the converged items. Yes, I was an early adopter, but being such gave me advantages I enjoy today. That's why I referred to forward thinking in my initial response.
Right. You happened to be present when the logo was put on the sidewalk. Survey Says! [X][X][X] Oh, I'm sorry that's incorrect; thanks for playing.
He's definitely optimized his page for the load and doesn't seem to be suffering too bad. And he's running AOLServer instead of IIS (so he should be immune from the latest nuclear-meltdown-class security hole).
(It's very late - I wasn't expecting the /. effect right now...does /. have server log data pubished anywhere? I'd love to see the time summaries...)
Sorry for not closing the