By the same reasoning, 24 FPS is a terrible choice.
If a movie shot at 24 FPS does perfectly fine on a 30 Hz display, then how can a movie shot at 48 FPS not do fine on a 60 Hz display?
24 FPS IS a terrible choice! They do NOT do fine on a 30 or 60 Hz display! Judder is a bitch! Telecine is the fucking devil! gadoifgha;ogiha;eorgihae;ohae h
On typical systems needing such a card, the acceleration functions of an onboard GPU have no integral purpose.
You'd have to go completely headless for that to be true, and then you'd have to ignore the ability of the GPU to do what the ARM shit does, AND do it much faster. Adding the ARM block is really fucking pointless because the chip without it already does everything the chip with it does, and better.
You could make an argument for a CPU with the ARM shit but without the GPU. But since AMD sells their "APU"s all over the place there is absolutely zero way such an implementation would win out on manufacturing cost. The "best" you could hope for is AMD selling you a cheaper chip with the Radeon shit present but disabled, just like how Intel plays their bullshit. This is a terrible fucking practice.
So the film industry has realized that no one really wants 3D so they are desperate to try to find something to replace it with that they can use to justify inflated prices.
If you want a gimmick, how about quicker DVD/BluRay/Digital releases after the movie hits theaters. Or better still, how about direct to DVD/BluRay/Digital purchase option day of release. That way those of us who want to see the movie but hate having to see it in a theater filled with assholes can do so. You can still wait months to release it for rental at a cheaper price if you want. But I don't think there is as much overlap in each of those markets as the industry thinks there is.
Same day options will never exist. Everyone would run their own mini theaters out of their house.
24 Hz displays (theaters, yes, they do integer multiples) will be fine. 30 Hz displays (shitty TVs) will fuck it up royally. 24 Hz displays (theaters) will be fine. 60 Hz displays (TVs) will fuck it up royally. 120 Hz displays (TVs) will fuck it up royally.
You'll need a 240 Hz display to show it properly. And if you add 3D, direct view, active 3D setups (3D TVs) will have to do 480 Hz.
There's a guy around town who must not be right in the head, he's always shielding his face with one hand, has long fingernails, all black clothing, a hat, long hair, and a beard.
The only problem I have with SSDs is the inability to securely erase shit without blanking the entire drive.
There are so many urban legends about file erasing...
In the case of a spinning disk HDD: If someone is really worried about someone examining their discarded disks with a scanning tunneling microscope, an entirely theoretical possibility that, even if feasible in practice, would take years and 7 figure sums of money, I seriously wonder what they're trying to hide...
In the case of an SSD, if you have TRIM enabled (mount -o discard), which you should do, because it increases the performance and lifespan of your SSD, all blocks occupied by a file are blanked when the file is deleted. There is no known process, theoretical or practical, to recover data from an SSD once it has been overwritten.
No one is ever going to reliably read any 0-wiped information from a modern hard drive. I don't care how much money they spend on it. But you're wrong about TRIM. It doesn't blank the shit. When write to an SSD you have to write to the entire page. When you delete, the page is marked as deleted in the file system and life goes on. TRIM simply lets the controller on the SSD know that shit's been deleted. What the controller does is up to the controller manufacturer. Typically, when TRIM is called, the controller marks the page as deleted (but does NOT blank it) and copies the data that wasn't deleted to a new block. The controller then does its garbage collection routines in the background whenever it feels like it and blanks the original page. This could be instantly, it could be ages later. TRIM simply prevents a cascade of write-rewrite-rewrite-... from occurring once the drive becomes "full" (all pages previously written to), TRIM does NOT guarantee a page to be blanked out at any given time.
If you used the full disk encryption available in all modern OS, you wouldn't have to worry about erasing confidential files, and erasing the whole "disk" is easy: just forget the key.
-merv
I run administrator/root with no password and leave everything except my tax return backups wide open. Anything else is done on an ad hoc basis.
The cost difference isn't really that big of an issue when you consider the performance, reliability, and warranty period of modern hard drives. As TFS points out, most people don't need lots of storage, and if they do, they get a network device for it (one for the home, instead of every PC having a 1 TB+ HDD).
When you use a 3.5" or 5.25" drive you can cram more memory into the thing. Larger capacity at a reduce cost. The overhead of the controller, case, connectors, etc. gets reduced when you up the form factor.
You could even reduce the cost by using older, lower-density chips. You can cram more chips in there and get the same overall capacity at a reduced cost, or you could use the newest chips and get increased performance (because you can read/write to more chips at once) and increased capacity all at the same $/GB cost as the latest 2.5" drives.
You can keep your shitty caching schemes and your hybrid drives (which are just shitty caching schemes in a black box). SSDs all the way. If I need bigbadstorage, I buy multiple SSDs.
The only problem I have with SSDs is the inability to securely erase shit without blanking the entire drive. Yeah, it costs more, but I get assloads of performance and power savings out of it.
I just wish someone would make 3.5" drives besides OCZ. Hell - I wish someone would make 5.25" drives.
This privatization of the TSA will only serve to hand tax dollars to private companies with zero return.
In all cases, when government does a task themselves, you don't have to worry about waste corporations' demand for profit. Waste is only introduced when private for-profit corporations are brought in. Corporations just can't compete against government.
This is why sending mail via government costs pennies, while sending mail via UPS or FedEx costs $10 or more. Privatization only makes things wasteful and inefficient because companies can't compete when they have to make a profit.
We need to make sure people understand that socialism is a better solution than private corporations when solving societal problems, and we need to make sure to give more power to government in solving social problems, since private industry simply cannot solve social problems.
You're a moron. Not only is what you typed just incredibly wrong, the point to privatizing the TSA is two fold:
One: When you add choice, better, saner solutions will prevail over time (hopefully). Two: Private entities are vulnerable to getting their asses sued. Private entities can't lock you up without cause.
Except for separating content from presentation. That would be particularly important for this guy, as he could make things as big and ugly as he needs to for his poor eyesight, and still produce an attractive final document.
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While I won't be happy to see it used for more DRM, it actually could prove quite beneficial to have increased general access to a chip which should be usable as a crypto coprocessor.
Crypto offloading cards are pretty expensive, and this would allow for modules to be rewritten on AMD+Linux boxes to dedicate SSL and like functions without increasing the general processor load.
Or you could use the onboard GPU, which actually serves another integral purpose and therefore isn't a waste of die space.
My home town nearly went to zero Kevins back in 1978.
It was a particularly cold winter, and we were already down to 3 Kevins (due to their low popularity at the time).
Kevin Thomas had flown out to be with his son's family for a wedding and got stuck in Boston for a whole week due to the weather. 2 Kevins left.
Kevin Lemmer was rushed to the hospital during my shift. I still remember the call from the EMTs as the ambulance was rushing toward us. "It's Lemmer. He's in bad shape. Drove right into the fucking ditch." We called the time of death at 6:15 PM.
At 6:16, all eyes turned to room 2217. Kevin Spencer was 82 and on his death bed with leukemia. His family being Catholic, he had already been given his last writes. If he couldn't hold out until Kevin Thomas returned, we would be at zero Kevins. Sure, we had 4 perfectly healthy Calvins, but they're just not the same.
It was 7:15 when Carla Brooks and her husband James burst through the main entrance. "She's not due for 2 weeks!", James exclaimed. As the staff bustled around getting the Brookses settled, they exchanged darting glances with each other. This was their first child, and they wanted to keep the baby's sex a secret. Of course, in a small town, secrets don't get kept. Nearly all of the hospital staff new that the child about to rip open Mrs. Brooks was indeed a boy.
The delivery was routine, and Kevin Brooks was born healthy, if a tad underweight, at 10:52 PM. Kevin Spencer was pronounced dead at 10:54.
It was, as they say, a close one. Kevin Thomas arrived two days later, the weather having finally cleared up. To this day, we still rib him about it.
Think of what you could do with an ARM subcore to handle transactions for math equations, or even graphics. Don't get hung up just because you saw 'DRM' in the article. I think this is a neat idea, especially if you have full access to the ARM core from your x86 OS
What could you do with the DRM logic block that you couldn't do with the many cpu cores or the fucking gpu that's also on-die?
So AMD and ARM team up, and the product of their blissful union is an on-die TPM?
Thanks for nothing, guys.
Basically. The only ones who will ever make use of it are DRM assholes.
They make it sound like a feature by talking about "security for online transactions", "banking", and "identity protection", but no one will ever use it for that. It's dead silicon until Windows is updated to recognizes it and allow DRM schemes to tap into it.
No, NOT down to the OS, because I don't control the OS. And I don't control the CPU they run on, the memory, the disk, the network, the effects of time dilation, etc.
You are responsible for the code you ship. It is NOT unreasonable to reduce your own code to a logical/mathematical model and prove correctness.
If you treat all external calls and operations as 100% correct (after you handle the bugs that you find in regular testing / know about already), the amount of shit you have to model/test/prove is suddenly manageable. There is no POINT rigorously proving something you don't control because it can change at any time. You only need to take ownership of that if you include a copy in your shipping product, at which point open source shit becomes your best friend because it's easier to test, fix, and prove correctness of source code than compiled code.
You're a fucking moron, and whoever claims that you can never be sure your software is bug free is also a fucking moron.
You absolutely can test every single state and input set for every finite state machine (every computer that has ever existed). You absolutely can test every single state and input pattern for every infinite state machine (the ideal computer with unlimited storage).
It's not impossible. It's not even unfeasible. You just have to properly define and structure your software. There's a reason computer science courses still teach kids state machines and boolean algebra and all that. They are mathematically proven tools for this shit. It doesn't matter if your inputs are (practically) infinite if you can model them and draw out a mathematical proof showing that all your bases are covered.
If you use an operating system function and that fails or changes at some point in the future, that's not your fault. If you use a direct call to hardware and that fails or changes at some point in the future, that's not your fault.
It is absolutely reasonable to expect software to be 100% bug free. Plenty of important software IS bug free. Sadly, the fucking attitude idiots like you bandy about makes bug free software, even in the medical or industrial fields, a rarity.
Not in a social setting. The hero who saves all the young females by yelling run/danger/leopard becomes the center of attention and gets all kinds of benefits. Extra grooming, food treats, more sex and offspring.
Pretty good deal if you ask me.
The guy who gets sex is the big guy who beats on his women. Just like in ye olde cave days. Nice guys finish last, white knights get friend zoned, etc.
You can't pick it up with nets, because all that plastic is in the form of tiny particles suspended in the water.
LOL A fine mesh net will catch the vast, vast majority of the material. Even a regular net trawled over a hundred miles will create resistance significant enough to create a substantial amount of buildup that can be retrieved. The net will leak water and plastic as you haul it up, but you will still get the majority of it. Just like how you can skim silt out of a lake with a regular pool skimmer. It's not the best tool for the job but you can make a significant improvement.
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I'm a little skeptical about that.
By the same reasoning, 24 FPS is a terrible choice.
If a movie shot at 24 FPS does perfectly fine on a 30 Hz display, then how can a movie shot at 48 FPS not do fine on a 60 Hz display?
24 FPS IS a terrible choice!
They do NOT do fine on a 30 or 60 Hz display!
Judder is a bitch!
Telecine is the fucking devil!
gadoifgha;ogiha;eorgihae;ohae h
PAL will never get respect. You'll get a slight speed up and you'll like it.
On typical systems needing such a card, the acceleration functions of an onboard GPU have no integral purpose.
You'd have to go completely headless for that to be true, and then you'd have to ignore the ability of the GPU to do what the ARM shit does, AND do it much faster.
Adding the ARM block is really fucking pointless because the chip without it already does everything the chip with it does, and better.
You could make an argument for a CPU with the ARM shit but without the GPU. But since AMD sells their "APU"s all over the place there is absolutely zero way such an implementation would win out on manufacturing cost. The "best" you could hope for is AMD selling you a cheaper chip with the Radeon shit present but disabled, just like how Intel plays their bullshit. This is a terrible fucking practice.
So the film industry has realized that no one really wants 3D so they are desperate to try to find something to replace it with that they can use to justify inflated prices.
If you want a gimmick, how about quicker DVD/BluRay/Digital releases after the movie hits theaters. Or better still, how about direct to DVD/BluRay/Digital purchase option day of release. That way those of us who want to see the movie but hate having to see it in a theater filled with assholes can do so. You can still wait months to release it for rental at a cheaper price if you want. But I don't think there is as much overlap in each of those markets as the industry thinks there is.
Same day options will never exist. Everyone would run their own mini theaters out of their house.
48 FPS is a terrible choice.
24 Hz displays (theaters, yes, they do integer multiples) will be fine.
30 Hz displays (shitty TVs) will fuck it up royally.
24 Hz displays (theaters) will be fine.
60 Hz displays (TVs) will fuck it up royally.
120 Hz displays (TVs) will fuck it up royally.
You'll need a 240 Hz display to show it properly. And if you add 3D, direct view, active 3D setups (3D TVs) will have to do 480 Hz.
Fucker should have gone with 60 Hz.
There's a guy around town who must not be right in the head, he's always shielding his face with one hand, has long fingernails, all black clothing, a hat, long hair, and a beard.
I bet he runs Linux.
The only problem I have with SSDs is the inability to securely erase shit without blanking the entire drive.
There are so many urban legends about file erasing...
In the case of a spinning disk HDD: If someone is really worried about someone examining their discarded disks with a scanning tunneling microscope, an entirely theoretical possibility that, even if feasible in practice, would take years and 7 figure sums of money, I seriously wonder what they're trying to hide...
In the case of an SSD, if you have TRIM enabled (mount -o discard), which you should do, because it increases the performance and lifespan of your SSD, all blocks occupied by a file are blanked when the file is deleted. There is no known process, theoretical or practical, to recover data from an SSD once it has been overwritten.
No one is ever going to reliably read any 0-wiped information from a modern hard drive. I don't care how much money they spend on it.
But you're wrong about TRIM. It doesn't blank the shit. When write to an SSD you have to write to the entire page. When you delete, the page is marked as deleted in the file system and life goes on. TRIM simply lets the controller on the SSD know that shit's been deleted. What the controller does is up to the controller manufacturer. Typically, when TRIM is called, the controller marks the page as deleted (but does NOT blank it) and copies the data that wasn't deleted to a new block. The controller then does its garbage collection routines in the background whenever it feels like it and blanks the original page. This could be instantly, it could be ages later. TRIM simply prevents a cascade of write-rewrite-rewrite-... from occurring once the drive becomes "full" (all pages previously written to), TRIM does NOT guarantee a page to be blanked out at any given time.
Which is why I waited until reliable drives came out.
SO glad I skipped out on the OCZ drives.
I ended up going with Crucial M4s. The Samsung drives are great too. Intel's drives are of course rock solid as well.
If you used the full disk encryption available in all modern OS, you wouldn't have to worry about erasing confidential files, and erasing the whole "disk" is easy: just forget the key.
-merv
I run administrator/root with no password and leave everything except my tax return backups wide open.
Anything else is done on an ad hoc basis.
So do you have the capability to buy 8tb of SSD space on a whim? If so, why're you wasting your time on /.?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227665 (960 "GB")
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Yeah I could do that.
The cost difference isn't really that big of an issue when you consider the performance, reliability, and warranty period of modern hard drives.
As TFS points out, most people don't need lots of storage, and if they do, they get a network device for it (one for the home, instead of every PC having a 1 TB+ HDD).
When you use a 3.5" or 5.25" drive you can cram more memory into the thing. Larger capacity at a reduce cost.
The overhead of the controller, case, connectors, etc. gets reduced when you up the form factor.
You could even reduce the cost by using older, lower-density chips. You can cram more chips in there and get the same overall capacity at a reduced cost, or you could use the newest chips and get increased performance (because you can read/write to more chips at once) and increased capacity all at the same $/GB cost as the latest 2.5" drives.
You can keep your shitty caching schemes and your hybrid drives (which are just shitty caching schemes in a black box).
SSDs all the way. If I need bigbadstorage, I buy multiple SSDs.
The only problem I have with SSDs is the inability to securely erase shit without blanking the entire drive.
Yeah, it costs more, but I get assloads of performance and power savings out of it.
I just wish someone would make 3.5" drives besides OCZ. Hell - I wish someone would make 5.25" drives.
This privatization of the TSA will only serve to hand tax dollars to private companies with zero return.
In all cases, when government does a task themselves, you don't have to worry about waste corporations' demand for profit. Waste is only introduced when private for-profit corporations are brought in. Corporations just can't compete against government.
This is why sending mail via government costs pennies, while sending mail via UPS or FedEx costs $10 or more. Privatization only makes things wasteful and inefficient because companies can't compete when they have to make a profit.
We need to make sure people understand that socialism is a better solution than private corporations when solving societal problems, and we need to make sure to give more power to government in solving social problems, since private industry simply cannot solve social problems.
You're a moron.
Not only is what you typed just incredibly wrong, the point to privatizing the TSA is two fold:
One: When you add choice, better, saner solutions will prevail over time (hopefully).
Two: Private entities are vulnerable to getting their asses sued. Private entities can't lock you up without cause.
Except for separating content from presentation. That would be particularly important for this guy, as he could make things as big and ugly as he needs to for his poor eyesight, and still produce an attractive final document.
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While I won't be happy to see it used for more DRM, it actually could prove quite beneficial to have increased general access to a chip which should be usable as a crypto coprocessor.
Crypto offloading cards are pretty expensive, and this would allow for modules to be rewritten on AMD+Linux boxes to dedicate SSL and like functions without increasing the general processor load.
Or you could use the onboard GPU, which actually serves another integral purpose and therefore isn't a waste of die space.
My home town nearly went to zero Kevins back in 1978.
It was a particularly cold winter, and we were already down to 3 Kevins (due to their low popularity at the time).
Kevin Thomas had flown out to be with his son's family for a wedding and got stuck in Boston for a whole week due to the weather. 2 Kevins left.
Kevin Lemmer was rushed to the hospital during my shift. I still remember the call from the EMTs as the ambulance was rushing toward us. "It's Lemmer. He's in bad shape. Drove right into the fucking ditch." We called the time of death at 6:15 PM.
At 6:16, all eyes turned to room 2217. Kevin Spencer was 82 and on his death bed with leukemia. His family being Catholic, he had already been given his last writes. If he couldn't hold out until Kevin Thomas returned, we would be at zero Kevins. Sure, we had 4 perfectly healthy Calvins, but they're just not the same.
It was 7:15 when Carla Brooks and her husband James burst through the main entrance. "She's not due for 2 weeks!", James exclaimed. As the staff bustled around getting the Brookses settled, they exchanged darting glances with each other. This was their first child, and they wanted to keep the baby's sex a secret. Of course, in a small town, secrets don't get kept. Nearly all of the hospital staff new that the child about to rip open Mrs. Brooks was indeed a boy.
The delivery was routine, and Kevin Brooks was born healthy, if a tad underweight, at 10:52 PM. Kevin Spencer was pronounced dead at 10:54.
It was, as they say, a close one. Kevin Thomas arrived two days later, the weather having finally cleared up. To this day, we still rib him about it.
Cedar Falls is currently at 5 Kevins.
The cause of Global Warming is Simple; Humans.
Because humans took the planet from 0 Kelvin to the temperature it is now, right?
Think of what you could do with an ARM subcore to handle transactions for math equations, or even graphics. Don't get hung up just because you saw 'DRM' in the article. I think this is a neat idea, especially if you have full access to the ARM core from your x86 OS
What could you do with the DRM logic block that you couldn't do with the many cpu cores or the fucking gpu that's also on-die?
So AMD and ARM team up, and the product of their blissful union is an on-die TPM?
Thanks for nothing, guys.
Basically. The only ones who will ever make use of it are DRM assholes.
They make it sound like a feature by talking about "security for online transactions", "banking", and "identity protection", but no one will ever use it for that.
It's dead silicon until Windows is updated to recognizes it and allow DRM schemes to tap into it.
No, NOT down to the OS, because I don't control the OS. And I don't control the CPU they run on, the memory, the disk, the network, the effects of time dilation, etc.
You are responsible for the code you ship.
It is NOT unreasonable to reduce your own code to a logical/mathematical model and prove correctness.
If you treat all external calls and operations as 100% correct (after you handle the bugs that you find in regular testing / know about already), the amount of shit you have to model/test/prove is suddenly manageable.
There is no POINT rigorously proving something you don't control because it can change at any time. You only need to take ownership of that if you include a copy in your shipping product, at which point open source shit becomes your best friend because it's easier to test, fix, and prove correctness of source code than compiled code.
If the OS changes, or some library changes, or they have bugs, that's not your fault.
If your software is:
Do this
Do that
Call OSThingy
Do this
And everything is bug free, then OSThingy breaks at some point, YOUR code is still bug free.
You're a fucking moron, and whoever claims that you can never be sure your software is bug free is also a fucking moron.
You absolutely can test every single state and input set for every finite state machine (every computer that has ever existed).
You absolutely can test every single state and input pattern for every infinite state machine (the ideal computer with unlimited storage).
It's not impossible. It's not even unfeasible. You just have to properly define and structure your software. There's a reason computer science courses still teach kids state machines and boolean algebra and all that. They are mathematically proven tools for this shit. It doesn't matter if your inputs are (practically) infinite if you can model them and draw out a mathematical proof showing that all your bases are covered.
If you use an operating system function and that fails or changes at some point in the future, that's not your fault.
If you use a direct call to hardware and that fails or changes at some point in the future, that's not your fault.
It is absolutely reasonable to expect software to be 100% bug free. Plenty of important software IS bug free. Sadly, the fucking attitude idiots like you bandy about makes bug free software, even in the medical or industrial fields, a rarity.
Not in a social setting. The hero who saves all the young females by yelling run/danger/leopard becomes the center of attention and gets all kinds of benefits. Extra grooming, food treats, more sex and offspring.
Pretty good deal if you ask me.
The guy who gets sex is the big guy who beats on his women. Just like in ye olde cave days.
Nice guys finish last, white knights get friend zoned, etc.
Software always has defects, this is simply a fact of life.
Fuck this line of thinking and the people who stand by it.
You absolutely can and should write fully functional, properly-tested, bug-free software.
You can't pick it up with nets, because all that plastic is in the form of tiny particles suspended in the water.
LOL
A fine mesh net will catch the vast, vast majority of the material. Even a regular net trawled over a hundred miles will create resistance significant enough to create a substantial amount of buildup that can be retrieved. The net will leak water and plastic as you haul it up, but you will still get the majority of it. Just like how you can skim silt out of a lake with a regular pool skimmer. It's not the best tool for the job but you can make a significant improvement.