The bar for skeptics is always going to be higher.
This right here is ridiculous. Two datasets produced using the exact same methods will be judged differently based on whether or not the outcome agrees with the accepted knowledge, and who provided the data set.
Otherwise we'd have to rewrite the chemistry textbooks every time some student messes up his lab assignment,
No, ALL data must be collected. THEN outliers must be examined. If an outlier can NOT be thrown out with a good reason ("yeah I messed up the test"), then you can NOT throw it out. It doesn't matter who produces the data, it matters if the data was produced in the same way as all other data. If you can't even collect data reliably then you need to go directly do jail, do not pass go, do not collect excessive carbon taxes.
because this will produce data that contradicts the theory.
Hi I have a theory that bunnies cause cancer. I have these data sets that were provided by my cohor... I mean A GLOBAL CONSENSUS OF SCIENTISTS. I will now tax and regulate bunnies.
What? How?
See my data? NO, here's a graph, I'm withholding the actual data. I don't have to continue to prove it, because I already did. YOU have to DISPROVE it.
Fine, I have this data that shows no connection!
Your data contradicts my theory, it must be thrown out!
Uh, MS is providing a subscription service, not a product. Uh, MS is not banning accounts, they are banning consoles. Uh, the account is still active and usable. Uh, you can always use a different xbox, go to xbox.com, or call their customer support line to cancel any subscription plans you have. Uh, the only way you can LOSE time is if you've paid by a prepaid card (as opposed to continuing payments via a credit card). Uh, xbox live account time has no cash value, and as stated in the TOS and on the back of prepaid cards, there are no refunds on unused time if you wish cancel your account or if your account is banned.
2: According to the global warming nutjobs, there is a "global consensus among scientists" that global warming is going to kill the planet.
3: Even if we entered an ice age tomorrow, humans would survive. Humans are resourceful, adaptive critters. The vast majority of them have reverted mentally and physically, but some would survive. Hell, I would welcome the culling.
4: Nope. Nothing we can do to stop it. The best shot we've got to mitigate it is to put up space mirrors. Every attempt (I think we've had 3 major attempts) has failed. There are no current plans to put up space mirrors. This is because it's expensive, doesn't generate money or power (the political kind) and could actually work - thus limiting the "need" to impose taxes, fines, and regulations.
Good, you have a hypothesis. Now go and actually prove it. Or at least work to disprove the alternative with, you know, actual data.
The problem here is that this should be common knowledge. In fact, the vast majority of climatologists know this. Yet any who dissent publicly from the party line are hunted down and shut out like communists. Everyone who DOES present data to disprove it is met with ridicule, job loss, personal attacks, etc. And of course, there's always a follow up by the global warming nutjobs who "debunk" their claims.
Either way - the tactic of proving things with data is useless when the other side simply alters their data and refuses to release it.
Personally though I'm in favor of the reforms presented by the global warming crowd though, even if they haven't convinced me that they are correct. Why? Because we have more to lose if they are right and we do nothing, than if they are wrong and we do something
That's just wrong. The political and economic impact of the proposed regulations is ridiculously large (and negative). Emitting less and polluting less is great. I'm all for a cleaner world with less crap in it. But none of the proposed changes will result in that - the proposed changes simply move pollution generation to China and India and other such countries, while taxing the fuck out of everyone else.
I really don't see it as my responsibility to ensure the profits of billionaires who don't give one lick about me.
Neither do I. But I also don't support creating new billionaires with the new carbon industry. Multi-billion dollar industry already and they don't even produce anything - all they do is regulate and tax and fine.
- The core of engineers told them to fix it for decades. - The federal government said "oops, no money". - The local government said "fuck it - we're not paying for it". - The local government also said "don't do what work you can, when we do have money, because it will interrupt mardi gras and hurt business".
The core of engineers was 100% for the needed maintenance and improvements.
The very fact that this reveals some scientists are doubting some results is exactly what should happen in science.
No, this reveals that some "scientists" are disappointed with the results and are actively withholding data and actively altering what data they do reveal in an effort to support the conclusion they want.
There is no doubt that the earth is warmer
I doubt this. Warmer than what? Seems to me the earth was much warmer in the past and was plenty hospitable to various manners of life and has gone through more extreme changes on it's own accord, before humans even came into the picture.
The earth's climate is changing, as it tends to do. Humans are not affecting it in any measurable way. The change will be extremely slow and gradual. The change will not destroy the planet. The change may be an inconvenience for people, and certain species may go extinct. There is nothing humans can do to stop it.
Fuck it - we'll build nuclear reactors on the coast, cool them with sea water, and then run the sea water through filtration before piping it out through the state.
If you were talking about the rich people in California who build mansions where they can slide off a cliff, or in a wooded area that was prone to wildfires you would be right. If someone's home Kansas gets blown away by a tornado do you blame them because they live in Kansas? If someone's house in Japan gets destroyed in an earthquake do you blame them for living in Japan? If someone in Florida's house is destroyed by a hurricane do you blame them just because they live in Florida?
Oh, so the deciding factor in regards to whether or not there is any personaly responsibility is how wealthy the person is?
Wealthy person = stupid. Non-wealthy person = poor baby who needs to be coddled and propped up by the government.
Its not the governments responsibility to control weather
On one episode of Little House on the Prarie, the tax man came to town and assesses taxes for everyone. Upset over what he considered to be overtaxation, one townsman said "next thing you'll be telling me they'll tax a man on what he earns!".
I can only hope that when we do have the technology to control weather, there is no "think of Katrina" argument, and that the power to control the weather remains firmly in the hands of mad scientists.
Oh my god you're right. Why didn't I see it before? There's no such thing a a reasonable precaution.
Why, this very minute I'm relying on infrastructure to power my computer, make and ship and sell my clothing, even clean the air and water I enjoy so much.
I MUST RETURN TO THE WILD AND LIVE NAKED, AMONG THE BEASTS.
but its not like I make periodic inspections of Mansfield damn or check the undercarriage of the upper deck of the freeway for damage.
If you saw concrete chunks falling off the freeway for years, If you saw news reports for decades saying the freeways were unsafe, If you saw a big sign saying "freeway unsafe - do not use", If you were stopped by a cop on the onramp who told you "if you use this freeway you will die",
you would still use the freeway?
Fucking moron. Willful ignorance like that gets you killed. Lack of responsibility coupled with shitty judges makes everyone pay for the mistakes of the stupid.
Slashdot Mirror
People manage to input text fairly well on touchscreens without feedback. And have been for a while now.
Bullshit.
Posting from my PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD while waiting in line to use the TOUCH SCREEN grocery store self-checkout and then the ATM.
The bar for skeptics is always going to be higher.
This right here is ridiculous.
Two datasets produced using the exact same methods will be judged differently based on whether or not the outcome agrees with the accepted knowledge, and who provided the data set.
Otherwise we'd have to rewrite the chemistry textbooks every time some student messes up his lab assignment,
No, ALL data must be collected. THEN outliers must be examined. If an outlier can NOT be thrown out with a good reason ("yeah I messed up the test"), then you can NOT throw it out. It doesn't matter who produces the data, it matters if the data was produced in the same way as all other data. If you can't even collect data reliably then you need to go directly do jail, do not pass go, do not collect excessive carbon taxes.
because this will produce data that contradicts the theory.
Hi I have a theory that bunnies cause cancer.
I have these data sets that were provided by my cohor... I mean A GLOBAL CONSENSUS OF SCIENTISTS. I will now tax and regulate bunnies.
What? How?
See my data? NO, here's a graph, I'm withholding the actual data. I don't have to continue to prove it, because I already did. YOU have to DISPROVE it.
Fine, I have this data that shows no connection!
Your data contradicts my theory, it must be thrown out!
Uh, MS is providing a subscription service, not a product.
Uh, MS is not banning accounts, they are banning consoles.
Uh, the account is still active and usable.
Uh, you can always use a different xbox, go to xbox.com, or call their customer support line to cancel any subscription plans you have.
Uh, the only way you can LOSE time is if you've paid by a prepaid card (as opposed to continuing payments via a credit card).
Uh, xbox live account time has no cash value, and as stated in the TOS and on the back of prepaid cards, there are no refunds on unused time if you wish cancel your account or if your account is banned.
All legal.
1: I am a scientist.
2: According to the global warming nutjobs, there is a "global consensus among scientists" that global warming is going to kill the planet.
3: Even if we entered an ice age tomorrow, humans would survive. Humans are resourceful, adaptive critters. The vast majority of them have reverted mentally and physically, but some would survive. Hell, I would welcome the culling.
4: Nope. Nothing we can do to stop it. The best shot we've got to mitigate it is to put up space mirrors. Every attempt (I think we've had 3 major attempts) has failed. There are no current plans to put up space mirrors. This is because it's expensive, doesn't generate money or power (the political kind) and could actually work - thus limiting the "need" to impose taxes, fines, and regulations.
Good, you have a hypothesis. Now go and actually prove it. Or at least work to disprove the alternative with, you know, actual data.
The problem here is that this should be common knowledge.
In fact, the vast majority of climatologists know this. Yet any who dissent publicly from the party line are hunted down and shut out like communists.
Everyone who DOES present data to disprove it is met with ridicule, job loss, personal attacks, etc. And of course, there's always a follow up by the global warming nutjobs who "debunk" their claims.
Either way - the tactic of proving things with data is useless when the other side simply alters their data and refuses to release it.
Personally though I'm in favor of the reforms presented by the global warming crowd though, even if they haven't convinced me that they are correct. Why? Because we have more to lose if they are right and we do nothing, than if they are wrong and we do something
That's just wrong. The political and economic impact of the proposed regulations is ridiculously large (and negative). Emitting less and polluting less is great. I'm all for a cleaner world with less crap in it. But none of the proposed changes will result in that - the proposed changes simply move pollution generation to China and India and other such countries, while taxing the fuck out of everyone else.
I really don't see it as my responsibility to ensure the profits of billionaires who don't give one lick about me.
Neither do I. But I also don't support creating new billionaires with the new carbon industry. Multi-billion dollar industry already and they don't even produce anything - all they do is regulate and tax and fine.
In short, Al Gore is the devil.
It is a feature that came from an XBL update.
It is not a feature of the console, it is an update from XBL. It is XBL software.
The option to install to the hard drive does NOT require you to have the disc in the console if you have a hacked console.
There are various hacks that remove the need completely, and others that let you create a single disc to check from to work for many games.
You're an idiot.
- The core of engineers told them to fix it for decades.
- The federal government said "oops, no money".
- The local government said "fuck it - we're not paying for it".
- The local government also said "don't do what work you can, when we do have money, because it will interrupt mardi gras and hurt business".
The core of engineers was 100% for the needed maintenance and improvements.
I'm sorry. I can no longer read articles that have 'gate' in the title unless they're referring to actual gates attached with hinges to a fence.
Why would Bill Gates be attached, hinges or not, to a fence?
On second though, he should donate a lot of money to some university and get the front entrance named after him.
"Gates Gate".
The very fact that this reveals some scientists are doubting some results is exactly what should happen in science.
No, this reveals that some "scientists" are disappointed with the results and are actively withholding data and actively altering what data they do reveal in an effort to support the conclusion they want.
There is no doubt that the earth is warmer
I doubt this. Warmer than what?
Seems to me the earth was much warmer in the past and was plenty hospitable to various manners of life and has gone through more extreme changes on it's own accord, before humans even came into the picture.
The earth's climate is changing, as it tends to do.
Humans are not affecting it in any measurable way.
The change will be extremely slow and gradual.
The change will not destroy the planet.
The change may be an inconvenience for people, and certain species may go extinct.
There is nothing humans can do to stop it.
You just admitted to throwing out dissenting papers because they were dissenting.
Yeah. That's good science.
Fuck you and your agenda.
There is zero evidence for "global warming", or "global climate change" or whatever other bullshit term you nutjobs come up with.
You dipshits can't even come up with a simple, formal scientific theory.
Here's a fucking hint: Man has an infinitesimal degree of influence over the planet's climate.
This story is 100% bullshit.
Oh wait - it's global warmi... I mean, global climate change, that's bullshit.
Pure.
Political.
Bull.
Shit.
Article is incorrect.
Live account is still good, ONLY the console is banned.
No, the problem is pirates expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.
All the "disabled" features are tied to XBL.
It's in the TOS.
No refunds when you get banned.
It's legal.
You can play any of those games the way they intended if you simply insert the disc.
What the fuck is this argument?
Pirates are so entitled that they can't be assed with keeping a burned copy of the disc around?
Homework assignment: how many laws they pass in a year? Would you want them to do it one at a time in order of importance?
Too many.
Yes.
The United States Supreme Court ruled incorrectly.
Fuck it - we'll build nuclear reactors on the coast, cool them with sea water, and then run the sea water through filtration before piping it out through the state.
Just line the walls with styrofoam panels.
If you were talking about the rich people in California who build mansions where they can slide off a cliff, or in a wooded area that was prone to wildfires you would be right. If someone's home Kansas gets blown away by a tornado do you blame them because they live in Kansas? If someone's house in Japan gets destroyed in an earthquake do you blame them for living in Japan? If someone in Florida's house is destroyed by a hurricane do you blame them just because they live in Florida?
Oh, so the deciding factor in regards to whether or not there is any personaly responsibility is how wealthy the person is?
Wealthy person = stupid.
Non-wealthy person = poor baby who needs to be coddled and propped up by the government.
Got it.
Moron.
Its not the governments responsibility to control weather
On one episode of Little House on the Prarie, the tax man came to town and assesses taxes for everyone. Upset over what he considered to be overtaxation, one townsman said "next thing you'll be telling me they'll tax a man on what he earns!".
I can only hope that when we do have the technology to control weather, there is no "think of Katrina" argument, and that the power to control the weather remains firmly in the hands of mad scientists.
Oh my god you're right.
Why didn't I see it before? There's no such thing a a reasonable precaution.
Why, this very minute I'm relying on infrastructure to power my computer, make and ship and sell my clothing, even clean the air and water I enjoy so much.
I MUST RETURN TO THE WILD AND LIVE NAKED, AMONG THE BEASTS.
the reason they were nto maintianed is becasue Bush stole the money to pay for tax breaks for his rich friends.
They were not maintained because the local government refused to allow the maintenance and construction to take place.
but its not like I make periodic inspections of Mansfield damn or check the undercarriage of the upper deck of the freeway for damage.
If you saw concrete chunks falling off the freeway for years,
If you saw news reports for decades saying the freeways were unsafe,
If you saw a big sign saying "freeway unsafe - do not use",
If you were stopped by a cop on the onramp who told you "if you use this freeway you will die",
you would still use the freeway?
Fucking moron. Willful ignorance like that gets you killed. Lack of responsibility coupled with shitty judges makes everyone pay for the mistakes of the stupid.